Mr. Compost: How to make an in-kitchen compost turbocharger!

 by eecharlie
Contest Winner
Mr. Compost is an appliance which heats and agitates food scraps collected in your kitchen. This accelerates decomposition before you put the compost outside (in a worm bin or compost pile) to finish breaking down.

My own goal was to build something that would break things down enough that once transferred to my worm bin, the compost won't draw flies. This will allow me to move the worms inside during the winter without an entourage of flying insects.

Agitation helps add oxygen to the mix and mechanically break things down while allowing moisture to escape, and high temperatures (we'll be shooting for 140F) are ideal for the voracious thermophilic bacteria which take over naturally when outdoor compost piles build up enough internal heat on their own. As a bonus, flies stay away from things at that temperature.

Doesn't this waste energy? It does use some electricity, but if you're a city dweller who can use this and a worm bin instead of curbside yard waste collection, then disposing of kitchen scraps this way saves energy! I'm still working on getting 1.21 gigawatts back out of it though....

Sound complicated? We're just replacing the computerized controller in another appliance that holds, heats, and agitates things: a bread maker!
 
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Step 1: What You'll Need

Parts:
- a bread maker ($5-$25). I used a Zojirushi BBCC-V20 that I found at a thrift store; I'd highly recommend this brand because of the way it's clearly designed and labeled internally, as you'll see later.
- a microcontroller ($0-$30) with at minimum several digital I/O lines. At least one analog-to-digital input and one PWM output is preferable. I used a Basic Stamp II (only digital I/O), but I highly recommend using something newer and easier to program such as an Arduino USB Board ($30 at SparkFun)
- (optional) an LCD ($0-$20), 2x16 character or so, so that Mr. Compost can tell you what he's doing
- miscellaneous resistors and connecting wire
-a coat hanger for upgrading the bread machine's stirrer/kneader into more of an auger that will thoroughly turn the compost

My total cost: $25 for a bread maker; everything else was laying around. If you have to buy everything, you should still be able to do this for under $50.
For a fun comparison, the NatureMill Plus Edition is $299 - but keep in mind that Mr. Compost doesn't replicate all the same functionality.

Tools:
- a soldering iron and solder
- wire strippers/cutters and pliers
- screw drivers
- a logic probe or voltmeter (preferred)
- vinyl (electric) tape and a sharpie
- a breadboard is very helpful for assembling intermediate test circuits
- a computer for developing the programming for your microcontroller
- a drill or dremel tool and small drill bit to make holes for coat hanger wire (5/64" worked for me)
- a beer bottle to help shape the coat hanger

Helpful Skills:
- comfortable going beyond "Warranty Void If Broken" stickers
- solid understanding of circuits & some experience reverse-engineering circuit boards
- comfortable working around live circuits with potentially lethal voltages
- experience soldering, especially in tight places
- basic understanding of PID feedback control using Pulse-Width Modulation (PWM)
- whatever programming language is required by your microcontroller

This is a fairly technical project. I've focused on covering all the high-level aspects that are important while also selectively including details that will save you time, hopefully without being too long-winded.
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nanaverm says: Nov 15, 2012. 7:59 PM
Impressed by your re-use of the bread machine. But for killing fly larvae, you could also zap your scraps in a microwave or freeze them.
Marcos says: Mar 3, 2012. 12:32 PM
I'm still chuckling over this one! I has to be one of the wackiest uses for a bread maker I've ever seen. And it's for a noble cause!

I'm lazy, and electronically clueless, so this contraption is way too complicated for me.

Why not just put a small worm bin on the porch, or even in the house, and let the worms and microbes do the work?

When I first started my worm bin , it was in the house for the first few months I had it due to cold weather, and no shelter outside. It didn't take up much space, and had not detectable odor unless I was right next to it with the lid off. Even then, the odor is not objectionable; though I wouldn't put it on my kitchen counter.

I did offer worm encouragement when I first started my bin by making a food scrap puree in the blender, but I only did that a few times.
eecharlie (author) in reply to MarcosMar 3, 2012. 3:29 PM
Glad you enjoyed it, and you're right. You'd chuckle some more if I told you how many times people have asked me (in person) whether I still used it to make bread.

I have since build a self-harvesting continuous-flow vermicomposter from a 50-gallon plastic barrel that I was very happy with. I nearly made an instructable and still might, but there are several designs on the web as well.

In short, you want to create a grating maybe 12" above the base of your barrel or other container, and an opening below the grating to shovel out finished compost. While most designs call for about 1-inch spacing between bars in the grating, I found that with 1.5" spacing, the weight of the whole mess would push the finished stuff through at some point and maintain a good equilibrium. This is in Seattle where it's relatively humid and cool all the time; elsewhere you may have difficulty with the very bottom layer drying out if exposed to the air. You could probably make a cover for the acces opening to keep the bottom nice and moist.

I also tried a scaled-up version of the bag design that has a very well-written instructable but wasn't very happy with it - I think that one is more high-maintenance.
Chikote says: Feb 17, 2012. 12:22 AM
Awesome! The Instructable is amazing. But more than that is the way you explain things with such detail :D
Again, congratulations!!
Gomi Romi says: May 24, 2011. 7:40 PM
Thank you for the brilliant tips - think I shall try this on my BBQ. I've tried heating my capsicum soil to boost the germination to 5 days instead of 20 days. Your idea simply comfirms cooking soil and compost does the trick
eecharlie (author) in reply to Gomi RomiMay 28, 2011. 2:50 PM
If I read that right, you're thinking of putting compost on a BBQ. I'm going to offer the opinion that that may be a bad idea. Do some research, but I've read specific advice against heating soil in i.e. ovens.
Gomi Romi in reply to eecharlieMay 28, 2011. 3:11 PM
Hi eecharlie, thanks for your reply, I have an outdoor shichirin and started my seedlings and heated the soil in an aluminium tray. I heard indoor heating wasn't a good idea, so I tried it outside.
wushuair says: May 27, 2011. 8:44 PM
Is there a smell from the composting? I know a Nature mill uses activated carbon to filter out the smells/how would you add some type of smell filter? Also how does the Mr. Compost aerate the material that's in there? Is there a way to collect the condensation? Lastly, does it suck much power? In my mind's eye this is a really cool alternative to a naturemill, but naturemill still holds the standard for an electronic version, that's why so many comparisons and questions =)

Thanks!
eecharlie (author) in reply to wushuairMay 28, 2011. 2:56 PM
Building Mr. Compost was fun, but you should probably buy a NatureMill if you absolutely must do indoor hot-composting and have any sense smell or co-habitants. Mr. Compost did not have a good way of capturing condensation, and despite my addition of a carbon filter with a PC case fan to suck air through it, it stank horribly. What I have been personally using is a flow-through vermicomposter, which uses zero electricity and is very low maintenance, and as a bonus it digests my shredded junk mail. If you want to make an indoor version, there's an instructable for that: http://www.instructables.com/id/Worm-bin-bag-for-indoor-vermicomposting-and-easy-s/
CrLz says: Jul 9, 2010. 12:46 PM
Sweet, I finally have found a use for the bread maker wedding gift! Thank you for sharing.
kenexinator says: Apr 11, 2010. 4:39 PM
You know the "mr.compost" remindz me of mr fusion from Back to the future2
Entropy512 in reply to kenexinatorApr 12, 2010. 10:46 AM
I think that was intentional...
kenexinator in reply to Entropy512Apr 13, 2010. 5:40 AM
uh ... ... ?
Entropy512 in reply to kenexinatorApr 13, 2010. 6:09 AM
Read the intro...  There are more BTTF references in this Instructable...
kenexinator in reply to Entropy512Apr 14, 2010. 12:52 AM
i have nice BTW!

Trilby in reply to kenexinatorApr 12, 2010. 2:08 AM
 Ditto
kenexinator in reply to TrilbyApr 14, 2010. 12:51 AM
?

arcraven says: Apr 11, 2010. 6:30 PM
What kind of beer is that?  Just curious.
lnknprkfrk13 in reply to arcravenApr 12, 2010. 2:34 PM
Coming from Oregon, it looks like a Mirror Pond Pale Ale, but I could be wrong.
eecharlie (author) in reply to lnknprkfrk13Apr 12, 2010. 3:34 PM
Winner! I trust neither of you cheated by reading all the way to step 5...
lnknprkfrk13 in reply to eecharlieApr 12, 2010. 4:26 PM
I thought it looked familiar. A good Oregonian knows his beers, lol.
mlcrafter says: Apr 11, 2010. 3:27 PM
I do not know if this is the larger or the smaller of this particular breadmaker, but I have the larger model and it makes absolutely wonderful bread!  Use it 2 - 4 times per week .  I will continue to compost outdoors and utilize my machine for our bread, thank you anyway.  When I bought mine, it was quite expensive and I cannot imagine anyone taking it to a place for resale, except maybe for charity.  It is so valuable to us!  Good luck with your venture, though.  I love the imaginations shown in this web site.  Thanks.
dagwoodandblondie says: Apr 11, 2010. 10:59 AM
Okay; I just know that regular composting in the garden does not allow for meat (or animal waste, for that matter). Thanks.
will1947 in reply to dagwoodandblondieApr 11, 2010. 2:13 PM
 Just to let you know that many local councils in the UK now collect and compost kitchen waste including meat, in fact I collected 80 litres of the composted waste for my garden and already have strawberries and tomatoes growing in it.  
1up says: Apr 11, 2010. 2:10 PM
You could adapt this into a Mr. Fusion home energy reactor; then you would get your 1.21 gigawatts. ;)

Nice project, too!
dagwoodandblondie says: Apr 11, 2010. 7:43 AM

We're not supposed to compost meat scraps. Otherwise, your design sounds fascinating!

skwirl42 in reply to dagwoodandblondieApr 11, 2010. 8:45 AM
 A thermophilic composter like this should take care of meat scraps. The main reason to not compost meat scraps is because it attracts animals and could harbour pathogens. If the meat is properly composted at the correct temperature, it should be fine to compost in something like this.
porcupinemamma says: Apr 11, 2010. 7:47 AM
Way too complicated for me to understand, but I think you have a brilliant invention.  Just wanted to suggest that anyone wanting to make this project join" freecycle" http://www.freecycle.org/ -there is a very good chance that someone's breadmaker is looking for a new home
ian1969 says: Apr 11, 2010. 6:42 AM
 Sorry but surely the preferred option for the city dweller would be a Bokashi composter? It doesn't require any electricity and is completely airtight so not smelly at all. All you need is the diestive enzyme which lasts a long time. I'm sure there'll be someone along with an instructable for one soon as well.....  
unbentcrayfish says: Sep 22, 2009. 9:50 AM
trippy
Greenpointer says: Sep 6, 2009. 2:47 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3498/3893705535_413390422a_o.jpghttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2474/3893715161_8146e84b0c_o.jpgCompost has a fruity essence I find.

Best part about this is that there are abandoned bread makers by the dozen in just about every yard sale, thrift store, front stoop, junk pile in America. I'd be SO doing this right now except I have ZEEROW knowledge of deconstructing circuit boards.

Any way you can just make it not bake your compost? Like lobotomize the circuit board with a blunt object(?)

As it stands, these kitchen cluttering bread machine things make good compost bins by themselves. Here's mine... and some tomatoes from our garden....and one of the garden...
eecharlie (author) in reply to GreenpointerSep 6, 2009. 11:10 PM
Yes! I fact that was my actual step 1 in the process of figuring out whether this had a chance of working:

You may not be able to find this out without either looking up the bread maker's manual online or turning it on and playing with it, but my (and many?) bread makers allow a custom baking program in addition to all the built-in ones. I was able to set up a custom baking program that did a lot of pre-heating and rising (the optimal rise temperature is pretty close to the temp range we want) and only 'baked' for 1 minute. This meant that my bread machine would do approximately what I wanted, including agitation every hour or so, for about 4 hours at a time with some annoying beeps every so often. (Maybe you're at least comfortable finding the piezo speaker and duct taping its mouth shut?)

That being said, I still feel compelled to warn you about this whole approach - the vessel is so small that you tend to dessicate your compost or have to put up with a nasty smell and condensation. I plan on very shortly building a vermicomposting 'sock' system, beautifully documented in http://www.instructables.com/id/Worm_bin_bag_for_indoor_vermicomposting_and_easy_s/ this instructable, and then maybe adding a heated vessel at the bottom to help dry out the results and break down anything the worms didn't want to eat. I'm thinking of using an electric blanket to provide the heat.
If you're vermicomposting or just outdoor composting, it helps to keep your collection container in the freezer so that everything gets broken up a bit at the microscopic level from the water crystallizing and expanding.

When I do come up with a solution I'm happy with, I'll post an epilogue page to this instructable. In the meantime, read the comments =)
DIY-Guy says: Aug 30, 2009. 9:17 AM
Very nice addition for "a kitchen that has everything!" Please comment on this method used by our family: FRESH scraps go into the blender with water for a few seconds to break them up. Then the sludge is poured into our compost bin. If we strained the sludge and poured the water into the garden, could we empty the colander strainer with moist sludge into the composting appliance? Or would there be something to be careful about or watch out for? Thanks for your input!
eecharlie (author) in reply to DIY-GuySep 2, 2009. 10:27 AM
I don't think you want to do either of those for the most efficient composting, because breaking things into too small of chunks drastically reduces the oxygen available to bacteria.

In fact, research has been done to discover the 'optimal' particle size for composting. I remember coming across the number 1.5-3cm but I can't find that document now; however, here's a general discussion of compost particle size considerations: http://whatcom.wsu.edu/ag/compost/fundamentals/needs_particle_size.htm

If you emptied the larger bits from a blender into a compost appliance, either mine or NatureMill's, I think the particles would already be so small that the stirring mechanisms would be ineffective and you'd get a dense buildup or sludge.

By the way, after using my composter with added filter for a few weeks (I actually ordered the same one as NatureMill uses), I found that with the small container volume and filter airflow required to contain bad smells, my appliance tends to desiccate (dry out) the material too quickly for it to compost well. However, it does reduce the volume of material and eliminate excess moisture from the worm bin.

I also bought a NatureMill at Costco out of curiosity, and while the general design is brilliant, they have some component choice problems that need to be ironed out. The stirrer motor in the one I bought jammed against a piece of ginger and stripped one of its gears, rendering it useless. The air pump for the filter was also quite loud, louder than a refrigerator compressor, and runs continuously. And, it leaked a fair amount of disgusting liquid into the plastic tray at the bottom (like a cheap flower pot). This was a 'Plus' model, and NatureMill just announced a new 'XE' line that is advertised as having stronger motors and other improvements.
dombeef says: Aug 11, 2009. 2:26 PM
Hey did you get that at a salvation army? I saw one just like that at a salvation army
eecharlie (author) in reply to dombeefAug 11, 2009. 3:51 PM
Value Village; same type of store. You should be able to get one for $10 or less at a thrift store.
dombeef in reply to eecharlieAug 12, 2009. 1:08 PM
Oh ok
solo.card says: Aug 11, 2009. 3:02 AM
I hope this still functions as a bread maker!!
eecharlie (author) in reply to solo.cardAug 11, 2009. 1:56 PM
Um, I do still have the original controller/buttons/LCD, so in theory I could do reverse purpose-reassignment surgery, but there would be a lot of scar tissue afterwards...
Joe Martin says: Aug 6, 2009. 5:46 PM
The first I thought of here was Mr. Fusion! Well done in the contest too, I didn't even see this instructable beforehand.
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