Step 7: The Integrated System With Room For Many Improvements

And there you have it, when you put everything together you end up with a freakin' awesome DWC hydroponics system.

However, I barely have it finished and I can already think of a few improvements to be made:

>Integrating the air pump's power cord into the electrical system so that it can be controlled via an on/off switch. (DONE)
>Painting the lid of the reservoir white so that it reflects light back up to the plant rather than absorbing it.
>Running all of the wires through the CPVC pipe for an even neater look.
>Adding a water pump to circulate the nutrient solution through a UV sterilizer to keep out unwanted organisms.
>Sewing together a fabric cover to slip over the frame and help keep out ambient light while trapping in growing light. (In Progress)
> Addition of a third growing light. (DONE)
> Adding solar cells, a battery bank and a power inverter to make it run on free electricity. (In Progress)
> And of course, expansion, expansion, expansion!

I will soon add some more steps on mixing the nutrient solution, testing and adjusting the pH, setting the light timer and eating fresh picked vegetables whilist up to my ears in snow!

Thank you for reading. I hope you enjoyed this instructable and I welcome any constructive feedback. Happy growing!
determined to understand enough about hydroponics to start my own set up, I have been reading all of the ibles sequentially.<br><br>I have seen a lot of great ones but this is the first I have found with enough detail for my skill level. thanks a bunch!
Good info
somehow i never had any good results with rockwool, yes seed germinates but plant has stunted growth, roots just sont seem to grow through it and then after some time of a plant being only 1 inch max long, they just die. <br>I am sure it is something I am doing wrong
Sounds like you might not be feeding them. The rockwool cube is an inert medium and provides the plants with no nutrients. If the nutrient reserve in the seed is all the plant has to survive on it will surely die as you describe. <br>I recommend using a general purpose plant food mixed to 1/2 strength. Soak the cubes in the plant food solution before adding the seeds. Not long after the plant starts to grow secondary leaves you will want to transfer it to your hydroponics system with a reservoir full of good quality nutrients. <br>Thank you for your comments.
Thanks for yr reply, but I have been feeding them a liquid fertilizer and in fact had soaked the cubes in it before as well. Nevertheless, thank you for trying to help. <br>I will just try again, maybe with different fertilizer. I wish they reached the 2nd leaf stage :-) <br>
Just thought I might try give a little info from my experiences with rockwool. Certain types of seeds have issues with growing through the density of the rockwool. I would suggest either to softly loosen up the block after it has been soaked, or use a coconut husk pellet (similar to the peat pellets, but I've found them to be a more neutral medium than the peat). I have not had much issue putting the coconut husk pellet into the clay medium. And depending on the plant variety, you may be able to replace the clay with pond pebbles. <br><br>I personally have found that circulating an aquarium's water through the hydroponic reservoir takes care of a basic nutrient-rich water and sometimes even eliminates the need for an aquarium filter.<br><br>Happy growing!<br>-kaizokuo
<p>thanks. i will try</p>
<p>Very well put together instructable, thanks for sharing! I made something similar, using a 3 liter bottle. Amazed how hydroponic growing seems to always outpace and outperform soil.</p>
<p>I'd like to attempt this project, but know absolutely nothing about wiring and electronics. Could you possibly explain in detail how this is wired, or suggest a place to research and learn how to?</p><p>Thanks.</p>
<p>As in how to wire in parallel and such, sorry for not specifying. </p>
how far above the reservoir is the bottom of the baskets ? <br>
The exact size of the airspace is not critical. When I first fill the reservoir with fresh solution I leave about 1/2 inch or so. As time goes by, the solution level will go down and the gap will increase. As long as there is an airspace and the roots are in the solution you should be fine. Thanks for your question.
The exact size of the airspace is not critical. When I first fill the reservoir with fresh solution I leave about 1/2 inch or so. As time goes by, the solution level will go down and the gap will increase. As long as there is an airspace and the roots are in the solution you should be fine. Thanks for your question.
its called mylar, reflects 95% of light, use it. believe it or not aluminum foil @ 50% and yes flat white is a better option better than foil
Good quality mylar reflects 90 - 95% of visible light, about the same as a common glass miirror. High end, titanium oxide, white paint (on a primed surface) reflects about 90 - 95 % as well. Aluminum foil or polished aluminum panels reflect about 80 - 90% of visible light, as do cheap mylar-like films. Regular flat white paint is in the 80 - 90% range as well. Any of these is a good choice over darker surfaces or open space.
Consumption of nutrients? When to change/add to solution?<br/><hr/>I have a similar, but smaller system in my office designed to keep my office plants alive, eliminating the need for watering them.<br/><br/>I do however wonder: How to figure out when to add new nutrients to the solution or change the water. I only have 6 plants, but don't really know when they have used up all their nutrients - and i have not been able to find a way of measuring it? I usually just add some more when &quot;I feel it is time&quot; but I don't actually have any basis for making the assumption.<br/>What do you guys do?<br/><br/>How do you figure out when to add more solution?<br/>Is it better to entirely change the solution? (which i gather would be rather costly if it was a big system)<br/><br/>
The two main things you want to watch for in your nutrient solution is the pH and the ppm. The pH refers to the concentration of H3O+ / OH- ions in your solution on a logarithmic scale. The ppm refers to the concentration of other dissolved ions such as potassium, nitrogen and phosphorous in parts-per-million. You can buy a special electrode that you can dip in the solution and it will give you a readout of these two numbers. It looks a lot like a pen. It can cost up to $200 though. Every different plant has its own range of pH values that they grow best in. You should do your own research to see what your own plants need. Generally, the pH of a hydroponics nutrient solution tends to go down over time (gets more acidic). Periodically, you can adjust the pH by adding some "pH down" (usually dilute hydrochloric acid) or "pH up" (usually dilute potassium hydroxide), both chemicals available at any hydroponics store. The ppm of the solution tends to do down over time as well. you can bring it back up to optimal levels by adding more nutrient to your solution. Keep in mind that while the plants are absorbing the nutrient solution, they are also dumping metabolic waste products into it. If you leave the solution too long the waste can rise to toxic levels and kill the plants. It's time to flush the system and start with fresh solution before that happens. I recommend a change every week but you might even make it up to two weeks. It depends on the size of the reservoir and the size/number of plants. Hope that helps!
Use pH indicator drops as a cheap alternative to a pH meter. Different plants like different pH and nutrient mixes, but a pH around 6 and a general purpose vegetative growth nutrient solution will work for most plants until you want want buds/flowers/fruit. Check nutrient concentration (TDS/ppm), feed and check pH frequently. Use foil around the base of the plants to keep light out of your fluids and roots. Unless you are pushing the limit with nutrient concentrations, you can go a couple of months before flushing the system.
good ! nice idea <br>
Looks great. <br> <br>What I do for the math is take the ml/100L and multiply that by L water used. <br>So in this case <br> <br>396/100 x 14 = 55.44 or 55ML <br>264/100 x 14 = 369.96 up to 37 ML <br>132/100 x 14 = 18.48 down to 18 ML
nice instructable!, while plants are still small and their root systems have not extended far enough to reach the water, should you just water them top down from the reservoir below?
You should fill the reservoir enough so that the water level reaches the bottom of the rockwool cubes. The solution will be drawn into the rockwool cube through capilliary action.
Brilliantly written, and very helpful 'ible! One question, how to regulate warmth? It's a bit chilly over here in the UK for without heaters, or do the lights provide enough warmth? Many thanks.
As long as you grow the plants indoors the room heater and the thermostat should be enough to regulate the temperature. Thanks.
&nbsp;ive seen that weird blue snorkel tube coming up from the bottom of the bucket in alot of DWC systems, and I cant figure out what it is!! does anyone know?
semi-transparent tube allows user to view water level inside the bucket ... which must be opaque to block light, which damages roots and stimulates algae.<br />
&nbsp;makes sense, thanks!
Hey LancePenny,<br /> <br /> Awesome instructable, however, I can't seem to download it. Everytime it tries to load it just gets stuck or quits (times out) on me after 10 mins of nothing. Maybe I should take it up with the Instructables crew rather. What say you?<br /> <br /> Would love to look at the instructable in full. <br /> <br /> Thanks<br /> <br /> J<br />
banana pepper seeds. mmmhmmm, im sure.
lol when they start growing I'll update with pictures and you can see for yourself!
Im having trouble getting setup for your PRO membership.. I wounder if you can accept checks on line. would appricate hearing from you.. You have a nice site . keep up the good work. espically like your hydroponic s im trying to learn how to grow indoors. Thank You<br /> <br /> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Grampa Tom
how much did this cost you to buid?<br />
can you include some quantities of each item? i want to get&nbsp;all the parts at once.
why don't you just run the wires inside the pipes ????
The wire is pretty stiff and it would have been very hard to feed it through all the 90 degree turns in the pipe. I suppose I could have tied some string to the wires and pulled them through the pipes but then I would have to wire it up before I glued it together. That would make the structure and the wiring ten times harder to complete.
If you use stranded wire, it's much easier to feed through the pipes. Plus, you can probably go a gauge smaller since there's more surface area on stranded wire for the electrons to pass through.
you are wrong with your calculations but within reason your lights would more likely be pulling .23 amps. The reason for that is there is alot more than one calculation you can use to calculate current draw. Because the ballast of the florescent lights you need to use another calculation but you don't have the proper testing tools to actually find the right variables. Your best way to actually find the current draw is to use an ammeter. And just because you use stranded wire DOES NOT mean it can handle more current.
WOW! I am completely impressed! Just starting to investigate hydroponics, you make it seem so simple! ( I am sure that is a "ha-ha"). Where I live, (USA, on west coast, no sun), is in an agriculture belt, but alas, I can't even grow tomatoes...no sun, too many pine trees...So, this seems perfect! If you ever want seeds, I have been collecting organic seeds for many years, have LOTS, and am willing to share. Pumpkins, Italian Butter beans (really good), all the way to pears, apples, persimmons and tangerines. Let me know if you would like any seeds to experiment with. How would fruit trees do in hydroponics?
um...i'm gonna have to say that fruit trees get way too big for hydroponics even before they are ready to bear fruit. I have just purchased 6 seedlings that are about 6 feet high and in 4 gallon planters that won't produce fruit for at least a few years until they are well established in the soil. I guess it's possible on a huge scale, but not practical.
From experience growing peppers, and tomatoes, if you remove the flowers the first time they show up, and let the roots become a bit stronger, generally speaking you get larger yields. I've also heard, but not tried, that if you remove some of the lower leaves you also get more fruit. I'm not sure how well this works, and as this is my first growing season in the area I'm in, I'm not doing much experimenting.
Most three strand electrical wiring that I've encountered in the U.S. comes with either black/white/green strands, or black/white/bare. A cute ditty for remembering the assignment of these strands is, "Black is hot, white is not and the ground is always green." Commit that to memory and you shouldn't have any problems with messed up polarities. (You'll probably also be cursing my name for not being able to get it out of your head.) ;-) Also, with modern grounded outlets, the black/power lead attaches to the "short" slot, white/neutral attaches to the "tall" slot.
I loved your instructable and am going to do something similar in the future with potted plants and LEDs. I only have one very important recommendation, however. That is, you should go with a lower rated fuse, something much closer to the actual power being used. I would recommend a 1A for your particular application.
I put a 1A fuse in it just then. I was always particularly worried that some of the nutrient solution may somehow get in contact with the lights or wires and cause a short. Never did happen though. I only have the light frame set up right now. It's growing tomato plants in pots of soil that I'm going to put outside in the garden as soon as its warm enough. Not quite as dangerous. Thanks for the tip!
i had a question about maintaining the solution. Obviously you would want to make sure that the PH and PPM were within specified parameters. However, on this system you would have to lift the lid to check the solution and/or remove the solution. Does lifting the lid and recycling your solution disrupt the plants at all?
Before the plants were so tall that they needed support, I would remove the entire lid, plants and all, and place it on top of an identical container. Then I could carry the entire reservoir over to the bathtub to dump it out. I would fill the reservoir in the bathtub and carry it back to it's spot under the lights and then replace the plants. This did not seem to harm the plants at all. Once the plants had to be tied up to the top of the frame it became impossible to move the reservoir. After that, I would use a siphon to remove the solution. Since the reservoir was on the floor, I could only empty the solution onto the floor and mop it up as it came out. Then I would mix the solution in the identical container and siphon it into the reservoir. Lifting a corner of the lid a tiny bit to collect a sample for pH and ppm measurement or to insert a siphon did not disrupt the plants but changing the solution was very cumbersome. This is part of the reason I don't recommend building one of these for larger plants like peppers. I would suggest using a setup like this only for things like herbs, lettuce, cabbage, celery, spinach and the like.
What a well put together instructable! And very complete. Good job!
Nice! I might build one of these in a different country!:-)
I really enjoyed the article. I'd like to share one project suggestion and one article suggestion. Project: Instead of painting the reservoir lid white, you might consider aluminum foil. Spray tack doesn't cost any more than paint, and for that matter flour paste would likely bond foil to the plastic irretrievably, and practically for free. Article: I understand you recommended an understanding of Ohm's law. The thing is, laypersons tend to over-estimate their safety in this area. I only point this out because a 50% safety barrier is generally considered minimum in the industry. You did this and more with your example wiring; I would suggest spelling that out, though. Thanks for an entertaining and informative read!