Lacto-fermentation is a traditional method of making pickles without using vinegar. Pickles made in this manner are alive and rich in probiotics. In this age of antibiotics we all need whatever extra help we can get in making sure the balance of the flora growing in our intestines is as helpful to our absorption and production of nutrients as possible.

Fermentation with lactic acid is also a very safe way to preserve your foods. Please enjoy this recipe, if you would like more information on lactic-acid fermentation and the health benefits of such foods please visit my site www.helladelicious.com.


Step 1: Wash Cucumbers

For 8-10 small cucumbers use about two jars and 1 quart (litre) of brine. Wash your cucumbers to help clean off any unwanted extra ingredients.
<p>But... are the pickles tasty?</p>
<p>Also... is it necessary to poke the pickles? Is it possible to not puncture them and just allow for a longer time for the fermentation process to complete?</p>
This is the same method used to make sauerkraut; basically you salt the water to prevent most bacteria from growing, while allowing salt-loving bacteria to flourish.&nbsp; These bacteria (mostly <i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leuconostoc" rel="nofollow" title="Leuconostoc">Leuconostoc</a></i>, <i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactobacillus" rel="nofollow" title="Lactobacillus">Lactobacillus</a></i>, and <i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pediococcus" rel="nofollow" title="Pediococcus">Pediococcus</a></i><i>)</i> produce lactic and acetic acid as they &quot;eat&quot; the natural sugars in the cucumbers.&nbsp; Eventually the acid levels get to high, the bacteria go dormant, and eventually the cucumbers pickle.<br /> <br /> Contrary to they authors description, you will not get significant amounts of probiotics from this food.&nbsp; The bacteria levels are quite low, and most will be dead by the time you consume the pickles.&nbsp; In fact, its nearly impossible to get detectable changes in your gut flora from &quot;pro-biotic&quot; foods; even bacteria-rich foods like yorgurt simply do not have enough to make a notable difference.&nbsp; Most medical studies finding benefits use daily bacterial pills containing the equilent to 2-3 <u>liters</u> of yogurt worth of bacteria.<br />
<p>Not true Warthaug. Dr. Joseph Mercola just posted information regarding levels of probiotics in food vs supplement form. He concluded that one jar of saurkraut has more beneficial bacteria than 100 bottles of the best probiotics. Look it up. Plus it is so fun and easy and financially better to educate people how to create their own fermented foods.</p>
<p>I'm a microbiologist by profession, and I'm well aware of Mercola and his complete lack of knowledge in this area. So you'll have to excuse me if I continue to base my statements on the work of myself any my peers (AKA microbiologists and MDs who actually do research on probiotics) over the claims of an established fraud like Mercola. The numbers of viable bacteria in foods - and how many survive the passage through the stomach - is very well understood. Both the density of viable bacteria in fermented foods, and the numbers that safely passage through to the gut, have been widely studied.</p><p>Yoghurt is the densest source of viable bacteria among fermented foods; containing ~200 million bacteria per serving (125g). Foods like sauerkraut and pickles have much less (generally 0.25 million/g) - due to a combination of less nutrients for the bacteria to eat during fermentation and due to loss of viability due to the very low pH of these foods. Published numbers are all over the place, but 5-50 million per serving appears covers the range (i.e. 0.25% to 25% compared to a serving of yoghurt). Regardless of the food, the number of bacteria that survive the passage through the gut is small; even in relatively protective foods that buffer stomach pH (yoghurt as a good example), the best survival we see is in the range of a 1-log loss (&lt;10% survival). More common losses range from 3 logs (0.1% survival) to 10-logs (considered to be complete killing).</p><p>In contrast, probiotic capsules typically contain 10-20 billion bacteria - i.e. the equivalent of 10-20 serving of yoghurt. Moreover, the are designed to pass the stomach before dissolving, meaning that you get complete delivery of 10-20 billion bacteria contained in them. To get an equivalent delivery from a food like yoghurt (assuming the best-case scenario of 10% surviving the gut) you'd need to eat 100-200 servings - the equivalent of 12.5 kg (28 lbs) too 25 kg (55 lbs) of yoghurt.</p><p>Rather than trusting the quacks, may I suggest actually looking at science. A few links to help you out:</p><p><a href="http://www.pbmed.gov" rel="nofollow">www.pubmed.gov </a> (google for the medical science)</p><p><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1151822/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC115182...</a></p><p><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/?term=sauerkraut" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/?term=sauerkraut</a></p>
<p>I hate to sound anti-establishment or anti FDA but doesn't the FDA fund NIH? It does and they often want certain results to &hellip;.. be found. I have read that they frown at publishing anything that goes against commercial companies (like probiotic pill companies) or big pharma. I would not trust any study funded by the FDA. they have a definite agenda. </p>
<p>Thank you for that. I was definitely sensing an ulterior motive/agenda with this guy. Eating healthy probiotics in fermented foods works. It worked for me in ridding myself of powerful gut aches. And, in the several blogs I follow, I'm reading of hundreds and hundreds of others cured as well. So, I think that what you see under a microscope may be irrelevant to how the gut actually works. </p>
<p>In the past, our government used to work for the people. Since a certain person in the 80s took office, we have cut taxes (for the rich in largest proportion) and then defunded the portions of the government that actually worked in the interests of most citizens. So, in theory, when the government was doing this (that's us, folk, we are the government) it was much better than 'corporate' funded. Since today more and more corporate monies are used then yes, there is influence to favor their interests, rather than our health. I was a federal worker, and i can tell you, most workers try to do the right thing, are dedicated to their mission, and can be much better able to act in the interests of citizens than those in the corporate world, who must please their CEO class overlords in the service of profits first.</p>
<p>Thank you! And as for charges of 'doubt' by other posters, I believe that Dr. Mercola is strictly about profits from his products. It does not appear that you are selling any products. When will people learn that modern day charlatans are out there, and that corporate funded anything is our enemy, and that government funded research is, by and large, independent of corporate influence - although today, since one party continued to cut funding to everything, more and more scientists must rely on corporate funding, thus we know where THAT leads to. People, stop watching TV. It is dangerous to your mental capacity, and certainly does NOT inform you. </p>
<p>How old are the capsules you run tests on? it seems odd that capsules that go unrefridgerated and sit on shelves out weigh fermented vegetables in probiotic content. yogurt, I see what you are saying. my dad is a microbiologist, too and he says pickled tomatoes (what he makes) are very high in probiotics. </p>
<p>Dr Warthaug, In Argentina everything is GMO, even milk, because the grass and the rest of what is obtain on the agriculture contain pesticide. And they use artificial colorant and artificial flavor, so, how I can get a good probiotic, when it's contaminate. I think 100% cacao is a good help in contrast to yogurt. It's very difficult to get GMO free. I hope your answer can help me. My e-mail is <a href="mailto:Stellafetia@aol.com" rel="nofollow">Stellafetia@aol.com</a>. Thanks.</p>
<p>Any professional who uses the word &quot;quack&quot; must be a duck. Don't assume you know the whole story. There are always more things to learn and being a scientist, you should know this.</p>
<p>From an anecdotal standpoint, I respectfully disagree. Since I started eating home fermented foods, my daily powerful gut ache changed from daily to once a week, then once every few weeks, then now none at all. I haven't had the hideous pain at all in months now. The pain was so powerful, I was sobbing at times. All I did was add fermented foods. I just eat a spoonful of my carrot sauerkraut on a sandwich or salad, and I sip on some Kombucha throughout the day, and occasionally sip some black bean miso I bought. So, while anecdotal, eating probiotics worked for me. And, I am forever greatful.</p>
<p>mercola.com has quite the opposite information. dr. mercola, a conventional medical doctor, now does nutrition research and he says pills have the lowest amounts</p>
I know there is a lot of information out there that will agree with Warthaug's point here, but personally I have found that I get a lot more benefit from eating my probiotics in the form of fermented vegetables and in other fermented products (yogurt, kombucha, kefir etc) than I&nbsp;do from supplements (plus the really 'good' ones are insanely expensive). <br /> <br /> People traditionally around the globe have eaten various fermented foods for thousands of years and gotten incredible benefits from them, in fact it used to be that fermented foods were treasured, cared for and handed down to the daughter on her wedding day. In this way the cultures evolved alongside the family DNA and helped to protect them from various illnesses. This is still practiced in Korea (kimchi) and in various other places.<br /> <br /> I have also read a lot of information regarding probiotic pills that points out that it is hard to really know if the probiotics will be effective, depending on what brand you buy and the types of bacteria in the pill etc. See <a href="http://www.healingcrow.com/ferfun/conspiracy/conspiracy.html" rel="nofollow">this article</a> for more information about the probiotic supplement conspiracy.<br /> <br /> The other point about eating these foods (yes this is the same method as sauerkraut!) that is highly beneficial is that our intestinal tract is so excessively long that eating food with beneficial bacteria will actually get into the various crevices and deeper into the intestinal tract than the pill form can.<br /> <br /> Anyway there is plenty of information to support either side of this argument. The key thing is to try it yourself and see what works best for you!<br />
<p>I tried this type of pickle for the first time and after a couple of days the liquid turned cloudy. Does this mean the pickles are spoiled? I think I mistakenly put in some dill flowers (already opened) instead of just flower heads. This might be the problem. Wondering if I should throw the batch out. Any suggestions?</p>
<p>Agreed, the cloudy water means that you have good bacteria. And, you can empty that brine out and add fresh water if you want. But, save the brine! Those good bacteria will speed up the process in your next batch.</p>
<p>It typically means you have good live cultures growing in your jar so it should be fine. Use common sense though; if your pickles smell bad or look off then throw them out.</p>
The intellectuals here are trying to 'solve' a problem...they are missing one thing: EXPERIENCE. <br> NOW ALLOW THE REST OF US GENIUSES TO PREVENT FURTHER PROBLEMS BY EATING FERMENTED FOODS. GO HOME TO MOMMY AND EAT SOME PICKLES.*
<p>Probiotics in food are the best!!! Don't you just get tired of people believing the science lab over actually seeing people healed with healed!</p>
<p>oops...FOOD! healing comes from eating clean, real food!</p>
Will it matter that I used 1-1/2 tsp instead of 1-1/2 tablespoons of salt?? I have 8 jars on my cupboard and they have not bubbled yet. :(
<p>It shouldn't. Many say even if not exact, you are ok</p>
Perhaps there is something in/with those few surviving bacteria that makes them more bioavailable, that we do not yet Know about, and therefore all the traditional (&quot;anecdotal&quot;) evidence about the efficacy is not all lies and &quot;snake oil.&quot; Being a Real scientist means you should have an open mind-- you might Discover something. Oh, and I trust my granny (and friends) more than Any degreed bashers.
<p>You know, that is a great point. how do we measure the bioavailabilty of each source of probiotics? </p>
I forgot to add to my last comment,<br /> <br /> The flower end of cucumbers (the end opposite the stem) contains enzymes that can cause the pickles to go soft.&nbsp; Many people remove this end to prevent this; it really can help make for crisper pickles.&nbsp; I'm lazy, so I cut both ends off instead figuring out which end is the flower end (plus they pickle faster this way).&nbsp; This method works for both this (fermentation) as well as traditional (heat) pickling.<br />
This is a great tip. Also adding in things with high tannings helps like the grape leaves. I have also found that adding chili peppers helps a bit too. I don't personally mind if the pickles are so crispy or a little softer.<br />
<p>other things high in tannins are black tea leaves. i use sour cherry leaves because we happen to have a sour cherry tree in the yard. they do a great job. thanks warthog for the tip about cutting the flowering end.</p><p>I wonder where you work? for NIH? Do you do studies on probiotics? sounds as if you do. </p>
<p>i believe any vegetable will do. yes, the texture will be like that marinated zucchini you get with roasted red peppers (in fancy salads). </p>
<p>Would this work for sweet pickles? Thank you</p>
<p>yes, but I would add the sweetener (molasses or sugar) at the end because it could interfere with the fermentation process. pathogenic bacteria feed on sugar and any from your hands would be encouraged to grow. the salt tends to kill unwanted bacteria but only if there is enough of it&hellip;don't take the chance</p>
<p>Just wondering if using Pickle Crisp or lime will interfere with the probiotic goodness?</p>
I made these pickles 10 days ago. There is white stuff on the bottom of the jars and on the cucumber stems. Is this mold? What did I do wrong? I sterilized the jars also.
No that is not anything to worry about. Sometimes the lactobacillus forms this white stuff. <br><br>By the way I highly recommend checking out these amazing pickles made in oak barrels on Whidby Island in Washington State: http://brittsliveculturefoods.com/<br><br>The tannins from the oak give the pickles this amazing almost smoked flavor. If any of you have access to oak barrels it might be worth a try!
By the way, if the weather is hot, you may only need to leave the pickles out for one or two days. After you have made them a few times you will know what amount of time you prefer to leave them out for. Various people may like them more sour or less, so try them a few times and see how you like it. I also eat them before waiting 6 weeks most of the time.
It is best to use jars with the canning tops that have the rubber seal. After two or three days some of the gasses and juice will be released through the seal, this is fine. It is best to put an old towel or something under the jars as they are fermenting so that these juices don't get everywhere.
Hi I'm looking for some clarification....You don't put these in a water bath after making them. All the other recipes I've read say you need to do this for safety....? I have a recipe my grandmother gave me that is a sweet dill. Her instructions did not include heat processing. Her's was more like yours , no water bath and 8 weeks to cure. Just want to make sure I'm being safe. Thanks for any help.
No need for a water bath. This is a real traditional method without using vinegar. Usually pickles using vinegar will need a water bath. This method just encourages the lactobacili to grow and ferment. These pickles are delicious. I often do this with asparagus too and they are fantastic as well. Yum.
I've made these too using a mandoline <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandoline" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandoline</a> &nbsp;to slice the cucumbers, and the pickles are ready to eat in 3-4 days.&nbsp;They ferment faster in the warm summer months. The kids LOVE these! Check out Weston A Price <a href="http://www.westonaprice.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.westonaprice.org/</a>&nbsp;and Nourishing Traditions <a href="http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/Nourishing-Traditions.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/Nourishing-Traditions.html</a>&nbsp;for more information on old-style eating. There's also a book (and website) called Wild&nbsp;Fermentation <a href="http://www.wildfermentation.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wildfermentation.com/</a>&nbsp;that gives info about fermenting many other foods. Most veggies contain lactobacilli on their leaves or skins, and under the right conditions, they grow into lactic acid, great for digestion. I've never tested how long they keep, cause they're gobbled up at our place. Good instructable, thanks for spreading the word.
Awesome! Thanks for adding in all the links to those great informational sites. I love both those books too and I am really needing to get a mandoline too!<br /> <br />
that is a gloriously simple pickling method, but where does the lactic acid come from?<br />
The salt helps to prevent other organisms from growing and encourages the growth of the lactobacilli bacteria. You can vary the amounts of salt or add whey instead, it is good to experiment yourself to see how you prefer the flavor.<br /> <br /> A good book with tons of info on fermentation and lots of traditional recipes is Sandor Ellix Katz book Wild Fermentation if you are looking for in depth information I think this book is an excellent resource.<br />
Quick question - how long can you store them after the initial 6 weeks?<br />
You can store them for quite long periods in a cool place. I haven't ever stored them for longer than this since I&nbsp;can barely wait six weeks to eat them in the first place! <br />

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