Introduction: Pythagorean Cup

In this instructable I'm going to show you a simple way to make a Pythagorean cup. If you are looking for a cool peace of science, or would like to prank your friends, you came to the right place.

The special thing about this cup is that it can be used as a normal drinking cup as long as it is only filled with a certain amount of fluid. If a person is to greedy thought and fills it up to much, the entire content will empty through a hole in the bottom of the cup. It is named after the famous Ionian Greek philosopher Pythagoras of Samos (b. about 570 – d. about 495 BC), you might know him from the Pythagorean Theorem. I did a bit of research and found just as many sources saying that he did invent the cup, as ones saying that say he didn't.
 
So how does it work?
As you can see in the schematic on the left, there is a channel with an opening near the bottom of the glass running all the way through the stem to the base of it. As long as the fluid level stays under the inside loop of the cup, it can be used as normal. If too much liquid is filled into it though, a siphon is created and the whole glass empties.
Basically it works because the weight of the fluid flowing out reduces the pressure inside the tube so that the fluid is pushed into the channel by its own weight (Honestly this is not the entire truth, because a siphon also works in a vacuum, but enough to understand the effect. If you would like a more in-depth scientific explanation how siphons work, follow this link).

If you are interested in finding out more about the cup take a look at the wikipedia article and here are some great photos of someone making it out of clay. By the way this is the first thing I will make should I be able to afford a 3D printer, since I would love to see a version with the siphon hidden in the handle or the side of the cup.

Step 1: What You Need

What you need

  • Plastic wine glass (best are non transparent ones)
  • Silicone glue
  • Straw (best is a transparent one)
  • Plastic test tube (slightly bigger than the straw)
  • Box cutter
  • Small saw

Step 2: Sawing

I used a transparent cup for you to better see what I am doing, but I suggest you use a non-transparent one.

Start by sawing off the bottom of the top part of the cup, as shown in the first picture. Make sure, that the straw fits through the hole. Afterwards use the box cutter to carefully drill a hole into the bottom, as shown in the third picture. The straw will have to fit through this hole as well.

Step 3: Glue Everything Together

The length of the straw defines the amount of fluid the cup can hold. Since it is difficult to cut it once it is glued in place, you should do it beforehand.

Fill the stem of the cup with silicone adhesive around the straw, to hold it in place and to prevent the liquid from flowing into it. As shown in the first two pictures above.

Afterwards you will have to cut the tube to the correct length. It has to be bit longer than the straw. Cut a small hole into the bottom, to allow the liquid to flow into it, as shown in the pictures. Then apply the silicone adhesive around the rim and place it above the straw. Let everything set and you are done.

Make sure not to use the cup above a valuable carpet or something similar. If you don't want the inside to be visible, just fill the cup with ice.

Comments

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the_boss_builder made it! (author)2013-06-16

If this could be tested and proven to work in a vacuum, then my friend perpetual motion has been under our noses for quite some time! It is truly amazing what you can suddenly understand when presented with a tidbit of information!

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Goodhart made it! (author)Goodhart2013-07-25

Because it isn't so much "air pressure" as "surface tension adhesion" that makes it work, I do think it works in a vacuum. But it still isn't perpetual motion :-)

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_soapy_ made it! (author)_soapy_2015-02-08

It'll work with water in a vacuum, due to the high surface tension. I suspect that with something with a low surface tension it won't work at all.

And of course you'll have troubles with the liquid trying to boil in the low air pressure.

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JacobD8 made it! (author)JacobD82015-09-01

We could test that with something like diet soda, which has a low surface tension.

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Kaiven made it! (author)2014-04-01

How does it behave when tilted? Can you drink out of it if there is a low enough level of liquid for added effect that the glass is normal?

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BrittLiv made it! (author)BrittLiv2014-04-01

yes, you drink out of it.

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MorganGardiner made it! (author)2014-01-15

Very interesting.

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DUO0037 made it! (author)2013-09-21

This would be so cool to prank my friends!

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enelson8 made it! (author)2013-09-12

I made one of these out of 123d so I wanted to know if you could check it out and see what needs improving. Thanks

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BrittLiv made it! (author)BrittLiv2013-09-12

Hi, it looks great! The only thing I would change is to make the channel a bit bigger, so that the cup empties faster.
Btw. since I am to old to enter the 123d challenge feel free to do so. I will vote for you!

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enelson8 made it! (author)enelson82013-09-13

I don't know if I'm going to put this one on though because I already have one entered in. But do you think I should enter this in or do you think it would be wise to just say vote for my Ukuele instead?

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BrittLiv made it! (author)BrittLiv2013-09-13

I would enter it and write a sentence like: "If you like this instructable, please also have a look at...". Enter as many as you can. More will increase your chances of winning (only won can end up winning of course), you will never know which one other people might prefer. I've won with stuff I wasn't a hundred percent convinced off and also didn't win with stuff I absolutely loved.

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enelson8 made it! (author)enelson82013-09-13

Ok thanks!

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drinkstuff made it! (author)2013-08-22

This is awesome! We were inspired to write our own blog article about the Pythagorean Cup http://www.drinkstuff.com/blog/articles/ and have included a link back to this page :)

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youn_link made it! (author)2013-04-11

I was sure that was the arquimides cup O.o but anyway gread idea to a party XD

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Goodhart made it! (author)Goodhart2013-07-25

Pythagorean_cup  whereas Archimedes spoke of mass and displacement., 

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Goodhart made it! (author)Goodhart2013-07-25

You MAY have been thinking of THIS CUP.

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Goodhart made it! (author)2013-07-25

Nice !
I have a much more complicated version of this in an OLD science project book. I am going to print this out and insert it near that page in the book, so I don't have to over think it :-)

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aweith made it! (author)2013-05-19

Omg that cup loove it. :P

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Zwee made it! (author)2013-04-12

I accidentally flagged this as inappropriate because I dropped my phone. Sorry!! Pls disregard the flag.

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BrittLiv made it! (author)BrittLiv2013-04-12

Hi, no need to worry, the admins will just delete the flag, should they not find anything wrong with it. I hope your phone is fine! Thank you for the subscription!

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Edgar made it! (author)2013-04-10

Gone to the blog:
http://faz-voce-mesmo.blogspot.pt/2013/04/dois-gregos-uma-colaboracao-e-ethernet.html

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BrittLiv made it! (author)BrittLiv2013-04-10

Thank you! Interesting how I am able to read the Portuguese just by knowing Spanish.

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Edgar made it! (author)Edgar2013-04-11

My pleasure, well, it just shows you're clever, but some words mean different things, sometimes. Not often, though! :)
Just found out a video, completely off topic, but something to keep, when in dire need of a good laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ri5cszSKEg

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Edgar made it! (author)Edgar2013-04-11

My pleasure, well, it just shows you're clever, but some words mean different things, sometimes. Not often, though! :)
Just found out a video, completely off topic, but something to keep, when in dire need of a good laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ri5cszSKEg

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bajablue made it! (author)2013-04-10

VERY COOL, Britt!

On an Html Saavy Scale of 1-10, I'm a ½, but I think I can do this! (she said with her fingers crossed ;-)  I'll need to print these instructions when I'm connected to a printer back home.  I'm excited to try it!

Thanks so much for 'splainin!!!

One more question: Can you put the "Vote" link anywhere on the web?

Thanks for your time!!!



 

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BrittLiv made it! (author)BrittLiv2013-04-10

No problem, sadly it won't work since whoever would want to vote has to be logged in to instructables.

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bajablue made it! (author)bajablue2013-04-10

Actually, that's a very good thing! ;-) Thanks again!

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BrittLiv made it! (author)BrittLiv2013-04-10

Hi, I'm really sorry, but it doesn't seem to work any more, once you hit publish some of the code vanishes, so that the button becomes useless. Looks like the admins didn't like the idea of putting a vote button inside of an ible.

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bajablue made it! (author)bajablue2013-04-10

Well drat. Looks like the great and powerful oz has spoken. O_o

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Jakwiebus made it! (author)2013-04-09

I was puzzling how to make this for some time. Kept me awake... Apparently I was over thinking this big time :D
you kept it simple but good,
love it!
+1 vote

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BrittLiv made it! (author)BrittLiv2013-04-10

Thank you! Yes, it is a very simple concept. You don't even have to glue the tube to the glass, I just didn't want it to fall out.

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bajablue made it! (author)2013-04-09

So clever, Britt... and the Vote button is, too!!! Can the less-computer-saavy of us look forward to an Instructable on that?

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babybayrs made it! (author)2013-04-09

Just clicked the vote button at the end (is it a prank?) It seems I have to prank my greedy friends always in their place if I don't want the fluid to empty to my table, right?

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BrittLiv made it! (author)BrittLiv2013-04-09

Hi, thank you for voting! The button is not a prank I figured it be easier to have it in the text instead of just having it on the top of the page, where it is harder to spot. Have fun pranking you friends! Yes, the cup is better used outside, or at a friends place ;-)

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babybayrs made it! (author)babybayrs2013-04-09

Thanks for confirming. You are so talented. I loved your idea of the cup and putting the button at the end.

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jimmytvf made it! (author)2013-04-09

if you put a lid on the bottom, if you overfill the glass for accident, you won't spill anything. it could be pretty useful

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Edgar made it! (author)2013-04-09

Nice work, BrittLiv, and talking about Ancient Greeks, I'm wondering if you saw this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giUk9leseBs
There's a Wiki, too, and guess what, you can make a Archimedes Puzzle:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archimedes_Palimpsest

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BrittLiv made it! (author)BrittLiv2013-04-09

I didn't know the video, thank you for showing it to me! It is very interesting.

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NightHawkInLight made it! (author)2013-04-09

Very cool. It looks well constructed

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resistanceisfutileiflessthan1ohm made it! (author)2013-04-09

this is a pretty cool idea.

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tholopotami made it! (author)2013-04-09

Nice! I like your simple construction! I come from a Greek island not far from Samos and I have seen a lot of these around. The idea is both to be content with a little and also to be fair when sharing (wine) with others. I suppose that there is no proof that Pythagoras ever invented this, but clay mechanisms and artefacts are common in the eastern Mediterranean. By the way Pythagoras was the first to use the term mathematics. Mathimatikos (mathima =lesson, teaching - also in modern greek) was the term he used for the inner circle of his students.

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BrittLiv made it! (author)BrittLiv2013-04-09

No matter whether he has really invented it or not without a question he was a genius.

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Kiteman made it! (author)2013-04-09

Awesome project, on my to-do list! Love the GIF as well.

(Did you know that this is also how some "automatic" toilet flushes work? The outlet is much wider, so that it dumps the contents of the cistern far more quickly than the constant trickle of water into it.)

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BrittLiv made it! (author)BrittLiv2013-04-09

Thank you! True, I was thinking of adding that, but the intro text is already quite long and I didn't want to just list uses without explaining them. Though thinking about it I probably should have.

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Ironsloth1993 made it! (author)2013-04-09

That must have made quite a mess in Ancient Greece.

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iceng made it! (author)2013-04-09

Very good construct.
The same principle used in chem lab self rinsing washers.

Excellent clear video !

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mikeasaurus made it! (author)2013-04-09

It's so diabolical once it completes the siphon how it drains to the bottom of the glass.

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