Railroad Spike Capo for your Guitar or Banjo

 by TimAnderson
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Here's how to install a railroad spike capo. These are actual HO guage model railroad spikes you pound into the neck of your instrument.
You can push a string under the head of the spike to hold it down, just like a regular capo that only affects that string.
They're very popular for banjo. Earl Scruggs uses them. My "Gold Tone" banjo came with them installed under the fifth string at the 7th and 9th frets.

The reason they're so popular for banjo:
The 5th string on a banjo only goes from the bridge to the 5th fret. Let's say you want to capo up two frets. A regular capo works on the four low strings, but misses the fifth string. That 5th string is unaffected unless you've got a railroad spike to tuck it under at the 7th fret.
 
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Step 1: The Spikes

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Here's what the spikes look like. I bought four of them from a music store. Later I got a million identical ones for free from a friend who does model railroading.

The spikes are .033" square with little hatches to help them grip the wood better. The heads are all different. Pick through them for the spikes you want. You want spikes with thin heads.

That's a .032" circuit board drill bit I happened to have. "99" doesn't mean anything.

The guitar is a Martin Backpackpacker guitar I'm stringing like a banjo.
The two highest-pitched strings on a 5string banjo are both .009" thick, which is about as thin as a steel string gets. That's why the "thumb string" on a banjo starts out at the 5th fret, otherwise it would have to be either very thin or under tremendous tension.

Instead of adding a tuning knob halfway down the neck like on a 5 string banjo, I'm just going to add these railroad spike capos at the 5th, 7th, and 9th frets.
cerealism says: Sep 13, 2010. 7:45 PM
If its just used as a drone string why don't you just tune that string up to the desired note? Change the string to a lighter one if need be. Or am I missing something here?
yoyology in reply to cerealismMay 13, 2012. 11:42 AM
He mentions that the string is very thin. In order to tune it high enough, the tension would be huge, leading to broken strings and possibly pulling the whole instrument out of tune.
freeza36 says: Jan 7, 2012. 2:31 PM
Is this a Martin Backpacker?
BobMarleyFan says: Sep 1, 2011. 4:15 PM
What kind of crazy tuning are you using, haha
dhargreave says: Mar 6, 2011. 12:45 PM
I don't know much about banjos, but with the placement of the capo, you'll have to tune it again anyway since it won't be in tune. The metal edges of the fret are where the note is, which is why you hold your finger over the metal part instead of between the frets for the harmonics.... so there's really no point to this except for wrecking your instrument, since you'll have to tune it again anyway, pretty much defeating the purpose. But on top of that, it'll throw all the frets out of tune and just leave the open string in tune, so you're basically screwing yourself one way or the other. They make special one-string capos that pull the string down into the existing fret instead of working as a makeshift fret for a reason yanno...
lhawkyard in reply to dhargreaveAug 14, 2011. 2:10 AM
It seems you are missing the point, if he is tuning it as a banjo, the 5th string will always be under the capo. I bet he doesnt even plan to keep a string on the 6th slot. This seems like an attempt as a quiet and portable banjo. Which I hope is a success as I will be doing the same thing next time I have the cash so that I can take a banjo on a 6 month backpacking trip.
strings3002 in reply to dhargreaveApr 3, 2011. 5:39 PM
You are correct, often the string will ,"go sharp" after being capo'd. Every festival I've been to has at least one guy with a Tee-Shirt that says,"Tune It Or Die!" A touch of practice and the 5th string becomes quite easy to re-tune as needed. But, this string is mostly used as a drone and is only occasionally fretted. Therefore, even if it ,"Throws the frets out of tune." Who cares? They aren't often fretted anyway. The purpose is to change the pitch of the string to match the key you are playing in. The banjo or banjo like device is key of G centric without capo'ing.

So if we capo the first 4 strings to the key of A, we must also capo the 5th string separately to A as it is open on the 5th fret as a G.

As to being a make shift fret...not. The string is pulled downward much as a finger pushes it downward, thereby forcing the string against the fret and changing the pitch via the existing fret. The spike merely holds the wire against the fret.

You can just tune the string to the key you desire but, the string may break if you go much higher than A.
dhargreave in reply to strings3002Apr 3, 2011. 8:15 PM
Gotcha, makes more sense that way. To me it seems easier to just tune the string (which isn't always possible when you want higher notes) or to just finger it, but that could get tiring and create ridiculous stretches.

All of that makes sense for a banjo, but I don't quite get why he's doing it for a guitar. Sure, maybe he wants to play it like a banjo, but they make special capos that only grab some of the strings for that. I guess this is the "poor-man's" solution, but it just doesn't seem worth it to mess up the instrument for that when the instrument isn't exactly cheap.
dhargreave in reply to dhargreaveApr 3, 2011. 8:17 PM
Then again, the holes are rather small, and I suppose it isn't that huge of a deal to fill them.
JacobElisud in reply to dhargreaveApr 27, 2011. 11:32 AM
No, it's not a big deal to fill them at all. Done properly, you'd have to look mighty close to notice there was ever anything there, if you could notice at all. In fact, the spikes themselves are hard to notice.

But I agree, I don't get why anyone would do this to a guitar. I've never heard of using spikes on anything but a 5-string banjo (or 5-string banjo-like instrument).

For banjo these tend to be the preferred solution. They do make various types of 5th string capos, which each have their problems. The Shubb 5th string capo requires drilling screw holes into the side of the neck. Others are small and get lost easily, or break strings, or are difficult to use, etc.

But for every 5th string capo there is someone who uses and likes it. Different strokes...
lhawkyard says: Aug 14, 2011. 2:06 AM
This is a common modiification on 5 string banjos. Many Banjos come with this modification already done. It sounds great and has been practiced by many professionals for decades. It sounds ghetto but is a great tool.

I actually am going to be getting a Martin Backpacker and tuning it like a Banjo just as the starter of this thread is. The options for travel banjos are very expensive, and well too banjoey. Meaning they are loud because of the noise put off by the drum head. Having a martin backpacker tuned as a banjo allows the instrument to practice like a banjo, but be quite like a Martin.


Just sitting in my room, plucking a banjo versus my full size acoustic guitar, the banjo is much much louder.

Sure you arent going to play to a sellout crowd with this modification, but it lets you practice banjo on the run. Something no travel banjo i have seen for sale succesfully does. They are all too heavy, loud or bulky.
NightHawkInLight says: Aug 8, 2011. 11:23 AM
Very cool, I've never even heard of these. Something for me to think about. Thanks for posting
Mr. Potato Head says: Sep 6, 2010. 7:01 PM
You'd have to be out of your freakin' mind to drive tiny railroad spikes into the fretboard of your guitar. I'll be havin' nightmares about this...
Hatredman says: May 20, 2009. 7:56 PM
I followed this instructable and put capos in the 5th fret of my 1957 Fender Stratocaster (no a reissue, the Pre-CBS one). ao I want to take the capo out. How do I do that?
batjonesy in reply to HatredmanJan 8, 2010. 12:24 AM
You gently pull it out with pliers. Then you push in the end of a cocktail stick intot he hole as far as it will go. Then you trim the protruding bit of the cocktail stick flush with the fingerboard and touch the end of the remaining cocktail stick wood with a brown marker pen to make the colour blend in with the fretboard.
Hatredman in reply to batjonesyJan 8, 2010. 7:03 AM
Oh, my god! I've just crached the fingerboard. My dad's gonna kill me!

Kazeem in reply to HatredmanMay 21, 2009. 12:28 PM
I think it was a bit of a bad idea to go hammering nails into an expensive strat from over 50 years ago... What exactly compelled you to do so?
Hatredman in reply to KazeemJun 24, 2009. 6:30 AM
Well, the Instructable told me to. It was published, so it's true, right?
Kazeem in reply to HatredmanJun 24, 2009. 9:56 AM
Yeah, but at the same time, you've gotta use some discretion as to where you go defacing things. If there was an instructable on how to graffiti your neighbour's car, would you do that?
Hatredman in reply to KazeemJun 24, 2009. 2:08 PM
But grafitti is a bad thing. I anted a capo, which is a good thing.
freeza36 in reply to HatredmanJan 7, 2012. 2:32 PM
some one thought this through..............
corey_caffeine in reply to HatredmanJul 9, 2010. 3:08 PM
*facepalm* you should have either A) bought ones or B) used the rubber band pencil capo
its a lion says: Dec 9, 2007. 7:58 PM
how far down do you drive them? im with randofo, wouldnt it catch somewhere? it would probably work well if you dont mind screwing up your fingerboard by driving spikes into it... im not too partial to doing that to my guitar though. overall, nice instructable. i would have never thought of using anything like that.
batjonesy in reply to its a lionJan 8, 2010. 12:26 AM
Go here for a very good explanation re how to fit railroad spikes. http://banjoist.tripod.com/howto.html
thesamhill says: Sep 27, 2009. 6:57 PM
If you're not keen on putting holes in stuff you can make a fifth-string capo out of sheet straps. It works like the "Suspender Fifth String Capo"- cut out the plastic tabs, bend the metal ends around like hooks, and tighten it up so it fits the banjo.
revcdub says: Jun 29, 2009. 3:20 PM
Had them installed on my cheap Saga kit banjo. They work fine, but on my much nicer Fender Leo, I use a cheap Bic ball point pen cap with the clip trimmed short (with a fingernail clipper) tucked under the fifth string up against the desired fret.
Hatredman says: Jun 24, 2009. 2:11 PM
AWWWW.Now I realised it was a joke, but now I alrady have two spikes in my 57 strat. My dad gave it to me two Christmas ago, when I went to College. Now he wants to see me play. I'm in trouble. What do I do? Please do help, my father is going to kill me.
capt. caveman says: Apr 25, 2009. 2:03 PM
yeah thats the last thing you wanna do to an instrument
NEED HELP sorta says: Aug 7, 2008. 11:23 PM
This is interesting, but you might add a disclaimer to people with really expensive guitars and things, for example vintage and hand-made guitars/banjos. It kills me to think someone might be hammering little nails into priceless instruments. o_0 Useful to know though. :)
aparition42 in reply to NEED HELP sortaAug 25, 2008. 10:45 AM
If an instrument can't make the sound you want it to, what good is it? We're musicians not museum curators after all. Still, if you have a guitar worth $100000, sell it on ebay and buy 20 that you're not afraid to play to drive spikes in.
NEED HELP sorta in reply to aparition42Aug 25, 2008. 6:02 PM
I just don't want people hammering nails into the fingerboards of (like you said) multi-thousand dollar guitars.
travisrichardson1980 in reply to NEED HELP sortaDec 5, 2008. 1:31 PM
NEGATIVE : reality check - if someone OWNED a "multi-thousand-dollar" guitar, i doubt they'd be checking instructables for ideas. they'd buy another instrument or have someone mod it for them. either way, who cares? POSITIVE: the disclaimer may be smart, however, for those younger and more naive kids browsing the internet, who may decide to drill holes in the guitar daddy just barely scraped $200 for and bought them for xmas. now THAT would be upsetting. and for anyone who cares, i modify the crap out of my guitars. every one of them is second hand, or free, never having paid more than $100, usually paying under $50 for something i plan to tear up and have fun with.
billym1571 says: Aug 4, 2008. 6:30 PM
who would want to do that to their guitar??
aparition42 in reply to billym1571Aug 25, 2008. 10:43 AM
This is most commonly done to 5 string banjos. The fifth string starts at the fifth fret and is used as a drone. consequently, first position chords can't incorporate fretting the fifth string. "Railroad spikes" alow the player to effectively utilize the characteristic drone that banjo is known for without constantly retuning the string.
Leonard Zelig says: Feb 8, 2008. 7:55 AM
FYI, the "crown" you refer to on the neck is called a radius.
randofo says: Dec 9, 2007. 4:19 PM
Do these catch the string, or worse, your finger, while playing? I would imagine having these embedded in the fretboard would affect the playing to some extent.
TimAnderson (author) in reply to randofoDec 9, 2007. 9:48 PM
They're not very big. I didn't even notice them on my gold tone banjo until I read about them in Earl Scruggs' book. He made his from pieces of his wife's bobby pins. One funny advantage over a regular capo is you can "play way up the neck" with this invisible capo.
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