Re-use a Schoolbus for Cheap Housing: Prologue

Re-use a Schoolbus for Cheap Housing: Prologue
Why?

A few years back, I got tired of living the American Dream and struggling to keep up with a horrendous mortgage and rising credit card debt. I know there's really only two ways to balance a budget, spend less or earn more, and I didn't see a huge wage increase in the future. Also, I have always been interested in unusual homes and can't pass a two or three hundred square foot enclosure without wondering what interesting living space could be made there. Less space, less stuff, less consumed, less owed. It sounded like where I wanted to be.

Then, I got a call from a buddy that purchased a pair of used school buses from the Texas A&M surplus property auction. He knew I had been interested in one and was willing to hold on to it until I could head out to pick it up. I got myself to College Station, spent a few days changing fluids, ripping out the seats and doing general preventative maintenance. Then, for about $1400 for the bus and another $600 in diesel (probably twice that, now), I headed back to Florida with the beast. Two years later, I've got a fully functional, comfortable, clean living space for about $12,000 and my monthly housing and utility costs are less than $400/month.

While my expenses have been drastically reduced and I am finally moving towards a more sustainable lifestyle, this probably isn't for everyone. For a single guy that wants to do something about waste and consumption, however, I can't think of a better place. Maybe something like this won't get you to move into a bus, but if it gets you to think about alternatives, then I'm glad I could share.

Finally, I could not have taken on this project without the awesome help from the community at http://www.skoolie.net. The admin and members of that site have proven time and time again to be the 'go to' source for information on the topic and some really supportive individuals to boot.

In this instructable, I'll discuss getting the bus, getting it legal on the road, and getting it ready to start interior construction. This won't be able to answer every single question, but it should give you a good road map for the process and get you in the right direction.
 
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Step 1The DMV

The DMV
Before you take your checkbook and head off to the local auction yard or track down that newspaper add, you should know what to expect from your state's motor vehicle regulatory agency, or DMV for the sake of brevity. Assuming that you are looking to turn this into what the state legally considers a Motor Home, these are the folks that can make or break your project.

It's not as bad as it sounds, however. Most of my research on this project suggests that few DMV personnel are familiar with the paperwork required to do this. So, having the relevant sections of your state's Motor Vehicle Code along with your forms when you appear at the window can really make things go smoothly. That said, I will share my experience in Florida in hopes that you can parallel them in your state.

Start by visiting your state's DMV website. You can find your state's official site listed at autotrader.com or at DMV.org. Once there, take advantage of their search engine, if they have one, to find forms and pages with terms like motor home, recreational vehicle, and conversion. My own efforts led me to Procedure TL-13: CERTIFICATE OF TITLE REQUIREMENTS FOR RECREATIONAL VEHICLES, MOBILE HOMES AND OFFICE TRAILERS. This was literally the hardest part of dealing with the state. Once I found this document, I was able to work with the local office to go step by step with them. A single paragraph covered everything I needed to know.

In the case of an individual converting their own vehicle and requesting to have the identity changed on the title in order to have it registered and licensed as a recreational vehicle, the customer must submit an affidavit to the tax collector. The affidavit must certify that the unit has been converted to the extent to include one of the aforementioned items to qualify it as a recreational vehicle.

EXAMPLE:
This is to certify that I, John Doe, owner of a 1982 Thomas Transit Liner, VIN 1234 ABC 56789, hereby request the vehicle be classified as recreational vehicle for the following reason:

( ) Installed 110 volt electrical wiring
( ) Installed LP gas piping
( ) Installed plumbing system

That was it! I had the girl notarize it and do up the paperwork there at the window. $35 later, the bus was a legal motorhome. The 110 volt electrical wiring consisted of a four outlet electrical box mounted to the inside where I could plug in my work tools for the rest of the conversion. Now the vehicle could be insured and driven to the work site... which brings us to another important consideration....
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Sep 5, 2008. 6:20 AMnervouswreck says:
Hi there Zim, About 8 years ago when i split with my wife i was in a simmilar situation, Having little money and needing a home, So my action was to buy a 50 ft steel narrowboat and have never looked back. only real difference is i live a gypsy lifestyle and have to move my boat every 2 weeks or the waterways inspector's are on my back,being on the water allows mu use of about 5,000 mile of canal system and about another 2,000 of rivers which are accesable here in the uk the cost of my licence is £600.a year insurance £100 And any diesel i use is free from tax. Having moved away from the rat race I have come to admire people with an alternative outlook on life. Well done mate. Garry.
Sep 10, 2008. 4:00 PMgr8wyt says:
your living my dream garry ! I`ve been looking for a very used sail boat or something inline with what you have for the last 5yrs.I`m disabled but can function enough to refurbish anything.I live on 1200.00 a mo.and its so hard.I love the water and dream about doing what your doing.If there is someone out there who knows where i can get a wood hull boat at least 35ft.A wood hull cheaper.if it floats i`m intrested!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nov 10, 2011. 12:45 AMSIRJAMES09 says:
I understand what you're saying.....I only get 1/2 of that a month....it gets real depressing sometimes.....

I so wish I made what you do....
Dec 9, 2009. 12:26 AMbetacmag4u says:
http://www.woodenboatrescue.org/
Nov 14, 2008. 12:08 PMtomhjr says:
check boat yards!!! a buddy of mine got a very large one for dam ner nothing . he said they were cutting them up for scrap it was a shame i to am disabled with a b/k and have a small boat to give to a good home tom.hamill@hotmail.com get in touch with me
Nov 10, 2011. 12:43 AMSIRJAMES09 says:
being disabled in the beginning was nice....but it got real old real quick & now I wish I wasn't disabled so I could get a job & go to work....

Sep 11, 2008. 5:15 AMnervouswreck says:
Hello gr8wt,First of all Where are you at the moment and how much can you afford as an initial investment,There are lots of buyer beware boats and ive met some very unlucky people who have bought boats and 12 months later having nothing but a waterlogged wreck. Is the boat going to be on sea or inland waters,I can advise on engines, 12vDc Eletrics, Solar and wind power for charging, Just let me know Garry PS Advice is free.
Sep 12, 2008. 11:10 PMgr8wyt says:
hey nervous,thanks for advice, live in Charleston,s.c. east coast.i live on social security income so my investment would be very small.i would like a sail boat with a 4cylinder diesel because i`m running used cooking oil in my diesel truck.i`m also in the process of making a 20 h.p outboard that runs on batteries charged by the windturbine.i`m a salty from way back and know wood hull boats fairly well.the boat will always be at sea and thats were i would like to spend the rest of my days.i would injoy any advice that you have now or in the future.thanks garry re.curt
Sep 12, 2008. 11:23 PMgr8wyt says:
garry i forgot to express the fact that you have the ultimate boat being a steel hull.god! if i had a chance at something like that i wouldn`t need anything else.as i said before being poor i could only afford a wood hull boat and that would be just fine.
Aug 23, 2011. 6:30 PMrangerweavere says:
I live in florida and would like to know where i could find the official paper work needed for the name change of vehicle
Jul 21, 2011. 2:44 PMcgoodwin4 says:
I lived in a 21 ft truck here in England with my ex , our son and at one time 2 dogs for 3 years.... I loved it! The only problem we had was finding somewhere to stay for any length of time so that I could work. We have no provision for that in this country. So jealous! lol
May 19, 2011. 9:02 PMZaphod Beeblebrox says:
i'd love to do this with a smaller bus, as smaller = cheaper, and get everything more condenced and add a small trailer to carry extra stuff, gas, generator, etc., in and set up a fold-out tent-like shower.
May 10, 2011. 8:49 AMrsingh3 says:
Cool! There was a state auction a few months ago where I live and they were selling part of the public bus fleet for super cheap, I wasn't able to get one because they required you to have a dealer license which was weird.
Jan 9, 2011. 2:08 PMmenahunie says:
You are very correct about the DMV. Here it is the city I am dealing with and the people there are very "friendly" and helpful. I get told a bus is a bus is a bus even despite it being converted. I do not believe that since there are "RV's" registered and running on the roads here..
I looked at one bus that was converted into and office with electric hookups and I told the DMV "people" it is never being used as a bus - didn't matter to them.. The registration amount the guy showed me was 2,400.00 per year and they just raised it again. His insurance for a bus was also 2,400.00 per year..
There is a way and I'll find it; its just there is not any help where I am in Hawaii... I am also single and grown sick and tired of dealing with rent at over 1,200.00 per month and the utilities at over 400.00 per month; money out the window gone.. I have found Hawaii is a very very hostile state in regards to "RV's"...
I expect to spend around $12,000.00 for a conversion and keep it "street" legal. I have seen "conversions"; but these people have to hide in "industrial" areas and way out places to keep from being hassles by the cops.
The kick in the head is you have "Tour" Buses all over the place like cockroaches..
Aug 19, 2010. 5:33 PMrailfan 233 says:
This is exactly what I want to do when I go to collage, insted of renting a dorm room that's only good for the school year. With this RV/Bus conversion, I can keep it after collage, and have an RV I'm familiar with (not to mention a house that I can take with me)
Jul 26, 2010. 3:41 AMpedleyfigg says:
In the 50's my great uncle was a gamekeeper in the UK and he converted an old double decker red bus in to a home for him and his young family.They were only in it a short while but it was a great cheaper alternative to housing. Great to see others doing it.
Aug 29, 2008. 4:30 PMLinuxH4x0r says:
Awesome! I'd love to try living in a bus for a month or two, and maybe longer if I like it. Great job!
Jun 7, 2010. 3:22 PMharley_rly says:
dude a water tower would be killer man, thats a great idea
Oct 21, 2008. 3:46 PMkillerjackalope says:
I really want to make a container house, two forty foots sitting there in the yard, kind of funny, they have a couch and bed frames sitting inside them anyway...
Sep 6, 2008. 11:01 PMRishnai says:
My uncle lived in a shipping container for a little while while he built his house. It was cold as hell in the winter, but then again, I suppose central Florida isn't the coldest spot in the lower 48, so maybe that wouldn't be an issue. He needed to give the container back as a functional, undamaged container, so it kind of limited the options. I "camped" in a storage locker once, but I can't see doing it long-term. Spent a couple of nights in a church steeple, too. I'd kinda like to try the water tower...
Aug 31, 2008. 7:09 PMDELETED_craz meanman says:
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Aug 31, 2008. 8:24 PMLinuxH4x0r says:
Yeah, you could paint over them or replace then with sheet metal or plywood/mdf
Aug 31, 2008. 12:27 PMPKM says:
the 2600 square foot house I got out from under.

I love that sentence. Brilliantly expresses why owning a house isn't the be-all-and-end-all.

I love unusual living spaces as well- there's something about the character of very small or unusually shaped houses that you don't find in the most interesting "regular" house. I saw one that was as deep as a regular house, 3 floors high but only about 8 feet wide. built in a tiny gap between two houses on a terrace. The water tower idea is fascinating (and you'd be laughing when the zombies take over). I'm not so sure about cargo containers- probably the POW camp torture association and total lack of windows that puts me off.

Looing forward to your next instalment!
Sep 1, 2008. 3:02 PMmarks1009 says:
ISO containers are certainly a viable housing alternative -- check this out: http://www.fabprefab.com/fabfiles/containerbayhome.htm
Sep 4, 2008. 1:52 PMdmlandrum says:
There's actually an entire movement called "shackitecture", which is all about small living spaces: http://www.dinosaursandrobots.com/search/label/shackitecture
Sep 1, 2008. 3:47 PMLinuxH4x0r says:
Those look good! I wouldn't mind living in one
Aug 30, 2008. 5:27 PMLinuxH4x0r says:
Ooh, shipping container sounds uncomfortable, but a water tower would be fun.
Feb 1, 2010. 11:03 AMARJOON says:
thnxs alot it helped me in my school project a lot 
Jan 22, 2010. 4:19 PMmamas-southern-cooking.com says:
What a great idea!  RV living can be a very practical way to live cheap.  There a lots of retired folks who choose RV living as an inexpensive alternative to a traditional home.  According to one informal poll, half of those polled said they live on less than $2000 a month while 11% said they get by on less than $700 a month.  There are even assisted living RV communities (like CARE) for seniors who need additional help but want to remain in their RV's. 
Nov 8, 2009. 5:27 PMheartlessangel7 says:
Check "Foremost insurance". I bought a 1987 Roadmaster Shasta, Class A, Gas. and GMC Chevy chassis. I'm living in it. The insurance is $111....per year!!! PWN!!!
Sep 9, 2009. 7:03 PMmttrout says:
Do you have any updated pictures or write-ups on your project? I've been checking on this for a while and haven't seen anything.
Sep 8, 2009. 9:34 AMDIY Dave says:
Could you post some pictures of the inside please?
Jul 15, 2009. 12:04 AMw7mez says:
I am actually interested in getting a cargo truck, which seem to be more plentiful in my area, and probably a bit better on the length-height ratio. My concern is primarily with plumbing. What kind of tanks did you use for waste and clean water? Did you use gravity or pumps? How hard was the plumbing to install? Also, I am seeing a lot of references online to just being nomadic, where this would be inadvisable to keeping a steady job. Where are you finding places to park for long periods of time? Great Instructable! I look forward to more!
Apr 27, 2009. 8:16 PMAmandaPants says:
do you have more steps? I'm very interested in the rest of your conversion adventure.
Apr 26, 2009. 10:11 AMisland_hackster says:
I really want to do this but I am at a total loss as to how to find a place where I could put it to live in. I'm not picky about water, power, and sewer, but I am about cost and having vegetation. It's a networking question, really...
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