RecycleBus - The Idea

Why doesn't every community recycle?

One of the reasons is cost of:

Equipment

Manpower

Infrastructure

Logistics

In rural America - small towns can't always afford the start up capitol it takes to get a recycling program off the ground.

The easier it is to recycle - the more apt people are to do it.

Curb -side recycling and community trailers make recycling easier.

Why not re-use a vehicle that we once trusted to take our children to school - to now recover our cans, plastics and paper.

Step 1 An oversimplified recipe

Take one yellow school bus

Remove seats

Reinforce frame on passenger side

Cut 3 bays on the passenger side

Create some kind of dividing walls to separate - plastics - metal - paper

Convert side wall to swinging doors

Paint recycle green - add logo

Pick up cans - plastic - paper

Your design depends on your vehicle and your needs.

Comments

[pwasniewski]

When I lived in Minneapolis I became familiar with a group called Sister's Camelot that did exactly this, except that what they recycled was organic foods. The idea was to distribute organic food to the public, for free, before it had a chance to spoil, but after it could be sold on the market--most food markets in the city will throw away produce well before it goes bad, since at a certain point it just won't sell when placed beside newer produce. Since buses run on diesel, they are also natural candidates for vegetable oil conversion, which I believe SC did. I'm pretty sure they also installed refrigerating units in the bus for non-winter use, and they made two to three charity runs a week, much to the delight of homeless and lower income families that sometimes didn't have enough to eat, and certainly couldn't afford market prices on organic foods, all as a non-profit entity surviving off of donations. Very inspiring, and proof that your idea is plausible.

[djsc]

before recycling was so widespread or such big business, a small company called wyecycle was started near where I live. they used, and still use, old minibuses with the seats stripped out. For a very small company or a community project such vehicles are virtually free to buy but probably time-consuming to maintain. mechanical skills would be a priority need.

[frankvanw1]

ElmoRoyD: In my province (Ontario, Canada) a lot of school boards have a maximum age requirement of 10 years for a school bus. Many used school buses are available for resale used. Some school bus companies move buses around to boards that do not have this requirement to get more life out of the bus. Also every operating school bus must meet two(2) safety checks every year or face stiff fines. Due to the extreme climate here in Canada and the addition of salt on our roads in the winter to melt snow and ice many school buses are usally done their life (or almost) at age ten making major body repairs not cost effective.
Miguelq: My city picks up recycling at the curb of each house using a big diesel truck. Is this efficient? No, but it does save on filling up our landfill site and keeps it usable many more years as the cost of a new site is extremely expensive.

[ElmoRoyD]

Good idea, but i think is harder to apply.

Maybe if we can see some numbers. The cost of the bus, the capacity, how long will it take to fill, how many miles is going to travel, gas cost. how much is the driver going to make? only a driver or someone else to help with the material? 

i dont know a lot about USA regulations, but i wonder why they throw away that buses? just safety for the childrens? is about big mantenaince costs? special permission to move trash? do you have any economical bonus for recycling from the goverment?

im from Mexico (sorry for the english) in the border manufacturing companies buy this buses for employees transportation, and we dont have big reciclyng problems, we have enough poor people that collects (even steal) all kind of material for sale, paper, copper, car batteries, PET etc. i have worked with a project to make this people win a little more of money.
 Thats  why i "ask" for numbers.

 The first idea in the project was something like this, but the 2 principal problems were not enough money, and the bigger problem, the people. The lack of commitment and bad organization.

And yes, materials dropped the price, that happened to ous at middle of the project.

[StCanna]

What if a 'sponsor" was acquired in the community who would offer a "central" place (for that community) to park the green bus and volunteer to drop the recyclables at regional processing center once the bus was full? Maybe even setup a small bio-diesel processor at each "green-stop" to cover the fuel of the green bus and maybe a little extra to raise money for the operation and provide cost-effective fuel to the community. This could also have the benefit of recycling waste from restaurants and offering an additional income stream for local farmers.

[zoltzerino]

Buses probably arent the most eco-friendly vehicle around, does the amount of energy saved by recycling exceed that used by the bus in transit, (town to town, round all the nieghbourhoods, to a regional recycling centre.)?

[miguelq]

It seems like a really good idea once people have adopted recyclable material separation. The only caveat to the idea is that those buses are gas or diesel guzzlers. It could be a great neighborhood project to source the bus as a pilot.

[Tystarr]

Wasn't that pic of the buses taken in Coney Island?

[nbrady]

Yea - old pic plus 15 minutes of Photoshop I think it would be nice if someday: yellow buses meant "kids were getting an education" green buses were a reminder "that we gotta recycle"

[PKM]

Have you suggested this to your local authority? I think it's a great idea, and if the biggest disadvantage is "the bus looks a bit ratty" then you could do a lot worse. With a proper proposal, (flip charts and pie charts and whatnot ;) ) I think it's well worth raising the idea.

[nbrady]

My plan is to incorporate the comments and ideas from the http://instructables.com community into http://recyclebus.org

Once http://recyclebus.org is fleshed out more - I'm going to propose the idea to the local recycling program. Mainly to encourage small towns 10-15 miles away to piggy-back onto the local program. Depending on how it is received - my next step it to take it to State government.

If I polish http://recyclebus.org enough to include a "Costs" page and a "Stats and Graphs" page. Someone in South Dakota can run with the idea. Someone in Oregon can suggest it to the City Council by sending the link. An entrepreneur in Florida can use it as a business plan.

[braddd]

Would like to see the site hammered out a bit more. I think it could fit a nice web2.0 look and be a tad more interactive. Also should have a way to get people more enthused and perhaps have a stock "business plan" to submit to local governments to perhaps fund a project like this. Bottom line - great idea. 5/5

[temp]

I think this is a great idea. There's only one part i don't like. When i gave it a 5/5 stars the stars only went to 3.09. It doesn't make sense. Shouldn't it go to 5/5?

[Weissensteinburg]

As photohippie mentioned, they use some algorithm that prevents that from happening. It wouldn't be fair for one person to make a new instructable be rated at 5/5 when older instructables (that may be better) aren't able to get that high when one or two people didn't give it a five. Similarly, one bad rating won't cause the it to plummet.

[reedz]

the star system gives it an average. As more people give 4/5 and 5/5 the overall number will go up.

[temp]

i understand now. Thank you.

[GeekGod]

Couple of thoughts, mostly on costs. For insurance you would probably need to have commercial coverage which is slightly more expensive. Not a big obstacle but still something that needs to be planned for. Assuming no grants are available and offsetting costs is an issue a program could forgo paper recycling and focus on plastic, aluminum, & glass. Aluminum and glass are the more profitable while plastic is the most harmful of the lot. Takes a long time in a landfill setting but eventually paper will decompose. Certainly better to recycle it but if you have to compromise it is likely the best choice of the lot as it is heavy, takes up a lot of space, and doesn't have a lot of economic value. For extra capacity it should be possible to attach a tow trailer to the bus. Likely requires some modification and welding. I'm not aware of any bolt on options for mounting a trailer hitch to a bus. Should be fairly easy to accomplish.

[Kiteman]

In the UK, the value of all recyclables has just plummeted - steel cans have dropped from 150GPB / tonne to just 10GBP. That will make it hard to finance a project like this.