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For parts of the wall that had not been built yet a third method was developed. In every tenth stack the bottom two thirds of the buckets had their bottoms removed to create hollow forms. After being tamped in place (with the upper third of the stack removed) these forms were filled with concrete to make a solid pier / anchor / footing.
This is really nice! I always see these discarded around here. I love this re-use. :D
<p>Thanks for your input! The wall is complete and The bucket house has passed the codes for NM , the website will be up soon . So look again Thanks Dave</p>
WOW, You should change your first pic. The first couple times I saw this I thought I would hate to live next to you, But then I looked on further. Now I must say very well done after giving a third chance at the entire Instructable. Very Good!
<p>The wall is complete without any code problems. The bucket house is near complete meeting all codes , the web site will be back up and running soon.</p>
bucket house would be cool.
<p>thankyou for your comments! The bucket house has taken some time to work out the new idea and the time has been worth the effort. The web site will be up soon with fresh pic. Thank !</p>
Using the bucket stacks as a house wall has been discussed... but is a much larger proposition (esp. from a engineering and permit standpoint). My initial idea is to build a wooden framework using existing building practices and infill with the buckets. I read that this was how a lot of the early strawbale houses avoided code issues, but that doesn't really use the buckets to best advantage.
I was thinking a bucket house would be nice too.<br /> <br /> You'd probably have to go with poured concrete footings to put the buckets on. Also, you'd probably want to fill the buckets with some sort of insulation, like you'd do with the spaces between in cord wood masonry &nbsp;construction.<br /> <br />
That is acuatlly one really cool <a href="http://www.brandtsoldworldplastering.com" rel="nofollow">stucco Leesburg fl</a> color. My dad for a while really wanted to try a stucco project and see how it would work for them. I really enjoy the different types of styles people try and that work out. Thanks again for sharing!
I had no idea that you could do that with 5 gallon buckets! It looks really good. There is no way that people walking by on the street would guess that this wall was made from buckets and <a href="http://www.brandtsoldworldplastering.com" rel="nofollow">stucco</a>. I have never heard of anyone doing something like this before!
While you would be using more buckets up in making the wall as it is planned, perhaps you could spread your buckets out farther by using spacers to help with the height of the wall. In other words, put some sort of spacer on top of each bucket before stacking the next one on top. I figure you could roll corrugated cardboard and tape/tie it into bundles of equal lengths, you could use wood, heck you might even be able to do something with the lids. <br> <br>I do realize that this might reduce some of the rigidity of the wall if pressure was applied to the uppermost section, however if you're just looking to fill volume, you could always reinforce with rebar through the buckets or something to that effect.
Ingenious! Way to go!!! :0) Growing ivy to cover the wall to would soften the look if that interests you Here are some examples. <br> <br> <br>http://www.customgardendesigns.com/gr_vines.htm
I REALLY love the idea of recycling with creative building materials. One concern I have been struggling with is that if the plastics manufacturers of these buckets (and other such manufacturers) can claim their products are enviro friendly or "green" because they can be reused in this way, they will continue to justify and strengthen the initial manufacture of SO many of them. It may even become a sales pitch to sell more. Do you have any concerns that your idea could end up being the impetus for MORE plastic buckets? Can the wall be recycled when it reaches end of life? (Sorry to rock the boat, with all due respect, I like the idea, but am getting alarmed that the enivro movement is starting to be based on , or depend on, enironmentally unfriendly output from businesses to be the input for such green projects. )
They're going to make more buckets regardless of whether we recycle them or not, so why not recycle them?
I have re-used buckets from laundry soap, cat litter, paint. The problem with them is that after year or so they become weak and brittle and start to disintegrate. It would be a bummer to go to all the trouble and then have it start collapsing! It's a fabulous idea 'in theory'!!
your became brittle due to the other cemicals you introduced to the plastics , if you used friendly save launder D. they would last longer ...about getting your cat to pee in a bucket im still scaching my head on ill have to get back on that one
The reason the buckets become brittle is because they break down over time when exposed to UV radiation. When they're encased in stucco they're protected from UV, so they will last a very long time.
as the plastic will out live even you , perhaps it will become a wall els were in life or perhaps filled with other unwants/ nonrecy.`s it could bebome a foundation to a building , freeways are another thing it could be recycaled in to once grond/sherd into little matters : to many play on word`s just recycal them .
What's wrong/ungreen with making walls out of plastic? if the hdpe really lasts "forever" and if the wall is being put in a place where people will want it for a long time then it's more environmentally friendly to make a wall out of hdpe then clay bricks or wood. Personally i love trees and I'd rather they not get chopped down to make walls, and most trees get cut down with gasoline chainsaws and the wood is shipped with ICE trucks.
I'd love to think this idea was good enough to absorb the number of buckets being produced but until it gets close I don't think the manufacturers will even notice. Did I mention that this project is UGLY as sin until the smoother coats of stucco have been applied, I don't see many spouses allowing these walls to go up in their yards. As to the recycling of the wall after the fact I think that would be possible once the stucco was broken up the buckets would probably come out with no more concrete and dirt than they had before they went in. Having said that, with even minimal maintenance we expect this wall to last a long long time. With no UV hitting the plastic I don't know how it would break down and the stucco is pretty thick because of the irregularity of the surface... so I'd estimate it might be 100- 500 years before you'd need to think too much about recycling. This might be a good time to suggest a bit of location planning, you probably want this to go in the right spot the first time you build it.
I chuckle at the idea of plastics manufacturers stooping THAT low. I am sure they could come up with many, many, reasons that their products are green that are at least *more* reasonable (but still completely unreasonable). If you look at everything that way, nothing is &quot;green&quot;.<br/>
Could this be used somehow to make a low wall that was also a raised garden bed? I am thinking that in some areas, keeping children in a yard (or keeping the chicken in) would be well-balanced by having gardening space on top of the wall. The buckets would reduce water-loss and root-damage from animals and insects. I really like this idea. Urban areas are encroaching on subsistence farmers in developing countries, and some urban dwellers over here are looking to do a little subsistence farming.
i was gonna say thats supa ugly, but then i saw the finished product. nice job! u could withhold the stucco if u were going for a post-apocalyptic-survivor look though
Sure, if you want to get lynched by your neighbors. Or maybe they'd do 'The Cask of Amontillado' thing but with bucket masonry. ;-)<br /> <br /> tristan993 wrote:<br /> &nbsp;<br /> &quot;u could withhold the stucco if u were going for a post-apocalyptic-survivor look though&quot;<br /> <br /> &nbsp;
Nice work, looks like a big project. I would have been tempted to just erect the bucket stacks and then grow vines over them.
I'd think that'd be grounds for justifiable homicide by your spouse or neighbors in most jurisdictions. ;-)<br /> <br /> Storeyc wrote:<br /> <br /> &quot;I would have been tempted to just erect the bucket stacks and then grow vines over them.&quot;&nbsp;
were did u get all those buckets?
Wow! The end result looks nice, and you would never know that it's made out of buckets!&nbsp;
what some say as waistfull ...how about one more thing you could do to minamize waisters ideas an make a new sorcer have hoses running threw the buckets bottums an bottum sides an leave the tops off the top row ,place old screens over the top too keep leaves from clogging the hose lines - an iether a cheap pump or handcranker pump outa any of the buckets were extra watering or watering of your yard an or garden is needed , then let mother nature fill them for you . also if any of your hose lines are exposed to the winer element use winter protection on them . course the main problem i first seen with it all was what your niebors are going to say with that monstrossity , painting all the buckets a grey or brick red might look as thou they were a cement or brick type walling at a distance insted of some goddy well you probley understand already lol
I'm very sursprised it took a hit from a backhoe and didn't move! Good work!
You need to paint awesome stuff on it. But it's pretty cool recycling
I salute you for your effort! The number of these buckets you are keeping from being buried FOR EVER is incredible. Could you cut some horizontally (the short way) to use as spacers inside the bucket? If I had any extra I would experiment but I'm always looking for more on the side of the highways. Great job!
Not to detract from the project, but didn't the builder just bury them FOR EVER in their yard as opposed to being buried in a landfill? Is this really better? What about the durability of the wall. Looks to be good, but 10 or 15 years from now maybe a new homeowner wants to get rid of it. Where do the buckets go then? The landfill?<br/><br/>I'm thinking a better option might be to research recycling the buckets. In my experience, most are made from HDPE - High Density Polyethylene. HDPE is quite recyclable. I'd guess most buckets aren't recycled because everyday recycling centers are not set up to take them. This is probably because they trickle in one or two at a time as opposed to the thousands of milk jugs (also HDPE) they recieve. If one collected a large quantity (such as enough to build a wall) one might find a recycler willing to take them as they are already pre-sorted.<br/><br/><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-density_polyethylene">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-density_polyethylene</a><br/><br/>Ironically, I see in the wikipedia article that one common use of HDPE is as a liner for landfills!<br/>
To Recycle or To Reuse...<br/> I'm not sure which is better in this case (we should commission a study) but my unstudied opinion is that the energy cost of recycling is worth putting off for a while (even 10-15 years if the wall needs to be torn down then). I don't see why the buckets couldn't (with a little work) be recycled after their life as a wall.<br/> In this case it comes down to this: Although this wall may be ecologically sound (or not) that was not the primary reason for building with this design. The wall has beautiful flowing lines that fit with the adobe house on this site, and the buckets made it very very cheap to build (a similar-looking wall could be built from adobe, strawbales, cob at a greater cost), the fact that it might be <em>green</em> is secondary.<br/>
As far as the energy aspect goes, I think it is a toss up. Either energy is used to recycle the HDPE buckets into other HDPE things, or it is used to create new HDPE to create the other HDPE things. I agree though that they could be removed in the future and recycled then. But, as you say, the re-use of the buckets was not the motivating factor, the motivation behind their use was that they were a cheap source of 'structure' for this wall.
actually, the whole recycling-plastics thing doesn't work quite as well as the plastic industry would have you think. Heating/melting/etc. the plastics alters the chemistry and polymerization slightly, and affects it's usefulness. Often the plastics are melted and spun into fibers, and used for insulation and textiles and whatnot. Because of this, plastic 'recycling' is often referred to as 'downcycling' since the plastics in question can rarely be recycled and reused for the same purposes as the source material. While this is better then simply landfilling the items, reuse is better yet (IMO).
Detract away. In my town, there is no HDPE recycling so the all end up in the landfill. I think until there is a program, projects like this that at least serves a useful purpose and keeps them from being buried FOREVER in a landfill. lol
Good point that if HDPE recycling is not available, this does effectively re-use them - which is better than putting them in a landfill. It does seem to me though to seem a waste of a perfectly good bucket, - which could be re-used many, many times as a bucket. As the author makes clear a few comments down, the number of buckets available vastly outweighs the need for buckets.
yup, yup. I don't see a bunch but I'll stop on the road because they blow out of construction trucks. I just started at a Las Vegas strip casino and I'll start looking for some to scrounge. But hey, I don't need 5000 of them!
Heh... interesting stuff. I don't like using plastic in any environment. It leeches.
A short wall made like this might be good for terracing or making raised bed gardens.
Interesting idea, but I think one of the major flaws is that the buckets are designed to 'nest' inside of each other, and minimize volume occupied when stacked in such a manner. This may make for strong columns for some use or other, but it seems almost wasteful in a wall project.<br/><br/>since you are already using rebar, what if you put rebar spikes/posts spaced about bucket radius apart, and impaled the buckets on the rebar spikes/posts and filled them with earth/rubble. alternate the rows like normal brickwork, and if this isn't strong enough, maybe cut notches in the the bucket's rims so that they interlock slightly? this way the full volume of each bucket would contribute to the wall, instead of just the top ~3 inches or so, and would allow you to build a much longer stretch of wall with the same amount of buckets. <br/><br/>just to elaborate, if as you said the average bucket is ~12&quot; diameter, stick a rebar spike in the ground every ~7&quot; for the first course of buckets, impale a bucket on every even # spike, and fill them with earth/rubble. for the next course, impale a bucket on every odd # spike, fill, repeat.<br/><br/>*shrugs* just an idea to get your buckets to stretch a bit further...<br/>
I was thinking the same waste-of-bucket idea.. Even turning them right side up, filling them halfway with sand or something and stacking them like that and then stucco-ing would i think lessen the amount of buckets you need immensely!
At my house, we never have enough buckets! ;)
I want to try making a fort out of "bricks" that are made out of paper bags stuffed with newspaper.
But you would have to make it water proof somehow. Another way is just to tape/glue/epoxy some big plastic milk jugs together.
Neat! For a long time, I've had the idea of making a bucket dome, by making a circle of buckets, then stacking more on top in a smaller circle and so on. I work at a household hazardous waste depot and get loads of scuzzy old oil buckets that the recyclers don't want. Weird, isn't it, that plastics are made from oil, yet the plastic recyclers don't want to recycle plastic with oil on it...
To get more buckets, post a viral internet story/chain letter that little Billy Bob is dying of cancer and his dying wish is to receive a world record number of used 5 gallon plastic buckets. You won't be able to shut it off (<a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Shergold">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Shergold</a>), but you'll be able to build a castle first.<br/>
Why on earth don't you fill them with dirt put the lid on and stack them up? Strap them hrozontally with builders strapping or wooden laths screwed in to each bucket. That's what I'm going to do. Thanks for your brilliant idea.
that might be too heavy if theres only one bucket for the width.

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