Remove Broken Light Bulbs Without Getting Cut or Shocked Using A Water Bottle by prabbit22m
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I made this instructable for the "SAVE THE BOTTLE" contest. I know there are other ways of getting this piece out but I wanted find a good use for a water bottle. The risk of getting shocked is pretty much non existant with a water bottle when compared to a potato or pliers.


Remove Broken Light Bulbs Without Getting Cut or Shocked With A Water Bottle.

Have you ever tried to remove a light bulb and had it break in your hand. DON'T try to get the metal piece out with your hands or pliers. You could get shocked or cut! Here's an instructable on how to use an ordinary water bottle to extract that piece.
 
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Step 1: Remove Label, Lid and Collar

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First, TURN THE LIGHT SWITCH OFF. Now, if it's a lamp with a cord and plug then, UNPLUG THE LIGHT. Then, double check the light switch is off. Then double check that it's unplugged. If you've ever been shocked you'll know why I repeated those steps. LEARN from my mistakes here people! Haha The devise we're making is plastic so you're not likely to be shocked even if the power is on but it's better to be safe than sorry.

Now, take an empty water bottle. The heftier ones are better for this application. Remove the cap, the label and the little ring around the neck that breaks when you take the lid off.
laznz1 says: Jan 31, 2009. 12:47 AM
HOW TO REMOVE A BROKEN OFF LIGHT BULB 1.Cut a potato in half 2. Ram on Broken metal 3.Twist SIMPLE and SAFE
paqrat says: Sep 8, 2010. 8:04 PM
I've used the potato to good effect.
Matt4_16 says: Feb 6, 2009. 6:28 AM
always works for me (the potato that is)
Plasmana says: Feb 6, 2009. 10:29 AM
But is that a waste of money?
finfan7 says: Feb 12, 2009. 1:15 AM
A waste of money as compared to what? A water bottle for this method? ($1 from vending machine, free if you drink bottled water anyway) Replacing the whole lamp? ($$) Heck, if you're pulling out potatoes anyway you could use the part of the potato not used on the light for food.
Plasmana says: Feb 16, 2009. 2:21 AM
The potato method. Potatoes are also conductive, so if someone forgets to unplug the lamp, they would have an zapping and smoky nightmare from the potato, and it would be a pain to clean the potato residue burnt onto the lamp...
finfan7 says: Feb 16, 2009. 8:29 AM
I'm a bit confused. Did you just say it is a waste of money compared to itself and then launch into the safety issues? As far as safety is concerned the issue is kind of moot since any method one could use has the danger of electric shock if one doesn't unplug the lamp.
Matt4_16 says: Feb 6, 2009. 6:05 PM
What kind of expensive potatoes do you buy?
Punkguyta says: Jun 23, 2009. 9:25 AM
I buy Yukon Gold spuds, they cost more than speckled salmon or canned albacore, dontchaknow?
Plasmana says: Feb 11, 2009. 2:35 AM
I don't use potatoes to get the light bulb out...
i make shooting things says: Feb 6, 2009. 8:16 PM
what do you do with empty bottles?
Matt4_16 says: Feb 16, 2009. 9:31 AM
recycle and get my money back
i make shooting things says: Feb 16, 2009. 11:54 AM
yeah a penny
Matt4_16 says: Feb 16, 2009. 12:53 PM
where the hell are you from, i get like 10-25 cents a bottle, when i take all them in i usually get 50-100 bucks
i make shooting things says: Feb 16, 2009. 7:53 PM
damn we gota pay to recycle them here
junits15 says: Mar 6, 2009. 11:53 AM
wow that stinks
nvnusman says: Feb 5, 2009. 6:27 PM
Okay, I had the need just two days ago and bought a spud and tried that. The shell of the bulb is somewhat recessed in a ceramic socket, so I picked a potato with a narrow end. Pushed it in there and counter-clockwised it and all I got was an indentation in the spud the diameter of the light bulb's metal shell. I'll try this next. (YES, I unplugged it!) The particular fixture in inverted so the heat from the 375-watt heat lamp accelerates oxidation and the bulbs rarely are extracted easily. I'll try a bit of PJ on the next bulb. I've used pliers in the past, but the most recent attempt spun the ceramic socket and the insulation on the wires above, while supposedly "Hi-Temp," cracked off and the wiring shorted out. At least a (dry) plastic water bottle is not as conductive as a spud (but I pulled the plug OUT!). Thanks for the instructable. BTW, I think there should be a special place in Purgatory for the engineer who spec'ced that fluourescent bulbs should be a silly millimeter longer than the opening into which we must insert them while teetering on ladders!
prabbit22m (author) says: Jan 31, 2009. 10:12 AM
I already had that comment 3 times. I already responded to that comment 3 times. I already modified the very first paragraph of the instructable to cover this comment. Why don't people read past comments before posting? Here's a scenerio for you laznz1. Let's say this broken bulb is in a light fixture on the ceiling and there are two switches going to it. You know, the type where you can turn in off from a switch at the top of the stairs or the bottom and up or down being off or on changes depending on which switch was used last? Now, the bulb burned out yesterday and you have no idea how many times someone has tried to turn it on. You have absolutely no way of knowing if there is high voltage at the light socket. Your choices are: 1: Ram a wet potato in the socket and have a 50% chance of shock 2: Go buy a voltmeter 3: Turn off the breaker and then spend the next 3 hours resetting all the clocks and alarms and VCR's, Microwave, etc 4: Take a few seconds to make this water bottle tool? Do you know how much water is in a potato? Weigh a bag of potato chips. Then weigh the same amount of potatoes you think it took to make that bag of chips. The difference in weight is mostly water.
ac-dc says: Feb 5, 2009. 6:04 PM
This is unreasonable. Any sane person dealing with broken, potentially still live AC powered items, unplugs them or flips the circuit beaker/pulls fuse, NOT shoving anything (even non-conductive because the circuit could still be shorted by part of the bulb or dodgy wiring) in until they know the circuit isn't live. It is not likely all the clocks are on the same circuit as one light, it would take about 1 minute to reset a clock, if we are talking about safety then never wonder, flip the breaker on the circuit or leave the job to someone who knows or has a meter to test whether it's live still.
prabbit22m (author) says: Feb 5, 2009. 6:26 PM
Agreed. Flipping the breaker is DEFINATELY the safest way to go. Or hiring a professional. But this world is full of people who insist on doing it themselves without knowing FOR SURE it's not live. I'm just trying to give those people ideas to reduce their risk. New homes are great and have circuit breakers labled. My old home doesn't. I can either start tripping breakers and hope that circuit is among the first I try (and again, how will you know you tripped the right breaker if the bulb is burnt out??) or turn the whole house off. But, yes, I agree 100% to make sure the circuit is off if they have the means of testing it. If not they should call a professional.
sarge89or says: Jun 23, 2009. 11:42 PM
Try tripping the breakers one at a time and make a list of which breaker controls what circuit. Then in the future you will know which one to trip. Duh, guess you never thought of that.
ac-dc says: Feb 5, 2009. 7:26 PM
If the home doesn't have a clear diagram of the circuits on the breaker box, that should be done right away, before a light bulb or anything else breaks. If one is unsure, generally it is better to at least flip the breaker for the circuit it seems to be on, rather than leaving that circuit live. Non-ground-faulted outlets in the same room are most likely on the same circuit for example so at least by plugging a lamp into one of those you can tell when that circuit is off. You can be reasonably sure the light is not on the same circuit as something distant, because the electrician won't have wound a single piece of wire in several different directions instead of the straightest run possible per area where it terminates, but again if there is any doubt it would be worthwhile to turn off any breaker in question, resetting a clock is a minor inconvenience considering light bulbs don't break in their sockets all that often.
laznz1 says: Jan 31, 2009. 9:36 PM
1: Ram a wet potato in the socket and have a 50% chance of shock its is completly safe ive done it for years
prabbit22m (author) says: Jan 31, 2009. 10:33 PM
I'm glad it's been working for you laz. I, personally would rather not take the risk but that's just my opinon.
Solderguy says: Feb 9, 2009. 9:49 PM
You wouldn't even have this problem if you bought florescent light bulbs.
prabbit22m (author) says: Feb 10, 2009. 8:12 AM
Actually, I've seen florescent bulbs do the same thing. Especially the cheap ones that everyone bought a couple years ago. The cheap ones have cheap china plastic that get's hard and brittle. Besides, I would rather not have all that mercury in my home and in the landfills when the bulbs eventually go out. Can you imagine, all the florescent bulbs that are the 'craze' now will all be going out about the same time eventually and ALL that mercury will go somewhere?? Hopefully not into our landfills. Personally, I use the incandescent bulbs but I buy low wattage and only have bulbs in half the sockets in the house. That way I save energy and don't polute. LED's are the best way to go in my opinion. I'm just waiting for a good product to hit the market.
paqrat says: Sep 8, 2010. 8:02 PM
Not too long ago I found some led bulbs at Walmart. Sort of torpedo shaped bulbs wih standard bulb bases. They are also available in candelabra bases. 1.5 watts. I believe it is supposed to be equivilent to 40 watt incandescent but the one I have seems to be producing more light than that. They also have some bulbs that I believe are intended for recessed lighting and tracks. Price was $5.something for the torpedo types. More expensive than cfl if purchased in bulk but no mercury. I prefer the color of the light produced to some of the cfl's too.
dombeef says: Jun 26, 2009. 11:45 AM
Now the florescent bulbs have almost no mercury
chicoman says: May 22, 2010. 9:04 AM
Hi, I tried your idea which I thought was terrific however I had a base that was too small. The bottle would not fit in the confined space (beneath my microwave) I noticed the plastic ring still on the bottle (which is used to seal the lid during processing), I removed it, squeezed the sides together, carefully inserted fully into the base sideways, and released  the tension. To my amazement the  ring had just enough force to grip the inside of the base and I was able to easily twist the ring without getting close to the short pieces of glass.
tommck says: Jun 23, 2009. 8:43 AM
Why not unplug it and use needle-nose pliers?
prabbit22m (author) says: Jun 23, 2009. 9:25 AM
Because people don't read the the other bazillion comments exactly like the one they just posted.
tommck says: Jun 23, 2009. 11:14 AM
At the time I commented on this, there were 10 comments, so, I did do that.
prabbit22m (author) says: Jun 26, 2009. 8:14 AM
Sorry for the sarcasm. I was in really really bad mood on Tues. I don't know what's going on with your instructables page or website but there are 127 comments proior to yours. And, that's not including the hundreds of duplicate comments I deleted of people naming the other thousands of items that could be used. This instructable was created for a "save the bottle" contest. I should just delete it.
Punkguyta says: Jun 23, 2009. 9:28 AM
I gotta say, this is a good re-use of an empty water bottle. And I'm up for re-using used materials, sometimes it may be silly, other times like this, more practical. However, I don't see light bulbs breaking/getting rusted into the socket unless they're using a moist environment. Sure petroleum jelly would work well to get it out easier next time, would it not maybe burn a little if the bulb got really hot? I'm sure maybe eventually caking on the socket itself and making it even harder to remove next time? Personally pliers have worked swell for me in the past, but my reccomendation is just get a better/different lamp/light socket, I think half of it is due part of the design of the socket and the threads for the bulb, I haven't had to remove a broken bulb for years in my house.
lunchboxslayer27 says: Feb 8, 2009. 3:31 PM
who cares what other methods are! jeez!
prabbit22m (author) says: Feb 8, 2009. 7:22 PM
THANK YOU lunchboxslayer27!!!! My thoughts exactly. I could probably think of 100 ways to do this but I made this instructable for the "save the bottle" contest. I even put that in my intro but but people insist on posting all the different ways of getting it out. What's next? ... Uh .. dude, just take a Snickers bar and jamb it in there instead of the bottle ... Jeez people ... EVERYBODY knows this is just ONE of the ways to do it.
imrealldum says: Feb 9, 2009. 11:15 AM
snickers would be tastier though....
lunchboxslayer27 says: May 1, 2009. 7:25 PM
go away!
awlakers says: Feb 22, 2009. 10:52 PM
stir stick for stirring paint is what i've always used..fits perfect.
blodefood says: Feb 11, 2009. 11:28 AM
I have heard that you can also use a hard vegetable like a potato to remove a light bulb base. Just make sure the fixture is unplugged first and there is no moisture left after the potato is used. Cut away the embedded part and throw the rest in the compost.
guitarman63mm says: Jan 28, 2009. 8:48 PM
Why not simply turn it off and use pliers? To my knowledge, there's a very simple circuit employed in such things..Plug, resistor, transformer, and an electrolytic cap; no? The only thing that could cause a problem is the cap, but unless you bridge the contacts, I don't see the danger.
RichardBronosky says: Feb 5, 2009. 9:41 AM
You ABSOLUTELY CAN be shocked by a circuit that is powered off. The switch only breaks the circuit on the common/hot/black/brass (whatever you call it, I'm in the USA) lead. The white lead stay connected. If any other circuit that shares that white lead is on, then that white lead is energized because it is connected to the black lead through said device. So, that clock that you don't want to have to reset, is turning you white lead into a hot lead. Then if your body acts as a bridge between the white lead and the ground/bare you will get shocked. I wire light fixtures all the time and get shocked regularly by this. I've gotten so used to it that I now wire electrical outlets hot too. It's just something you must be aware of. Getting shocked when you don't expect it is very dangerous. Your reaction to the shock can put you in serious jeopardy.
Goedjn says: Feb 9, 2009. 1:38 PM
The Neutral (white) conductor is supposed to be continuous
to ground, if you get a significant shock while from touching
that, there's something wrong with the house wiring. (which isn't
particularly unusual, but it shouldn't be the rule). More to the
point, though, even on a hot circut, if you're standing on a wooden
ladder you shouldn't be getting shocks at all. Even if the potato (or pliers,
or whatever) touches both the hot *AND* the nuetral/ground,
the current should just go through the potato, not you.
Now if you stick your FINGER in there, that's likely to hurt.
--Goedjn
prabbit22m (author) says: Feb 9, 2009. 2:17 PM
I'm going to have to disagree with your wooden block argument. I agree that if the pliers touch the wires you won't get shocked but you'll see sparks. I also agree there shouldn't be voltage on white. But I know from experience that if you touch the black wire or touch pliers that are touching the black wire or slip off the insulating plastic of the pliers while they are touching the black you can get shocked regardless of what you're standing on. If the black is hot then all you need I'd to be touching the base of the lamp to complete the circuit.
prabbit22m (author) says: Jan 29, 2009. 10:28 AM
Ever been shocked guitarman? Maybe I'm alone with this opinion but I don't like it. For ME it's not worth the risk, I would rather be safe than sorry. So, I try my best to use only insulated tools around electricity. I figure, if professional electricians have specially tools made of plastic, polymer or fully insulated and they are professionals who should never forget to turn something off, the average Joe me should probably be as cautious as possible. Humm, Resistor, Transformer, Capacitor (you forgot inductor, transistor and rectifier)... There are none of those components in any standard light fixtures I've ever seen. Maybe in Bill Gates' house!
acesnanna says: Jan 29, 2009. 3:05 PM
Actually as an Instructable it is clear concise and well written...Your language is clear, your wording is well written AND all your adjectives and adverbs are in the right places.Your pictures are crisp and clear it is very educational....I'm sorry I whizzed in your cheerios.. Though; by so doing YOU have opened a line of thought about Mercury in the environment...THE less the better....and LED lighting...THAT is a very good subject ! YOU did that! The whole idea is commendable...You Also stressed safety factors..On the whole it is good! And so many comments are just as well written..Thank You! Ace'sNanna
prabbit22m (author) says: Jan 29, 2009. 8:43 PM
No worries Ace's Nanna. Thanks for the comments. Any stimulating conversation is worth having. Oh, don't get me started on proper grammar. This country’s grammar is spiraling down into a black abyss of illiteracy. I blame text messaging and interpretive text for the recent sonic speed at which it’s traveling. Haha that reminds me. My wife is a great pianist but is too busy to play much lately. She said she sat down to play after a few weeks of procrastinating and could tell she had the mentality while reading and playing that “if I just get close it will come out okay” and she knew this mentality was from interpretive iPhone typing. What’s next? Maybe I should invent a piano that recognizes what song you’re playing or can tell if the note you hit won’t sound good and hit the right note instead. Hahaha … The iPiano!
paqrat says: Sep 8, 2010. 8:18 PM
I enjoyed the instructable too. Also have to agree with you about state of grammar today. What really gripes me is when it appears in the newspaper. I think " c'mon, people you are getting paid for this".
acesnanna says: Jan 30, 2009. 6:56 PM
Isn't it shocking to think who will be Picking our NURSING HOMES!!! Son who is in his thirties winks at me occasionally as a reminder, and chuckles! Now the good news....One of the boys I despaired for is one of the BEST sales men I ever met....and he is a very good parent! There are "good parts" to getting old too....Some of those "good parts" are seeing the "seeds you planted, grow and flower!" I see so many young people I fed, laughed with , and occasionally had as" long term" house guests. Some thought they were "Throw away" kids..... I've always been good at recycling!!! Some of the GEMS I have found, just Laying around!!!! Probably that is why I like these pages so well... There is so very much talent here and all of you are willing to share it with us for free!!
prabbit22m (author) says: Jan 31, 2009. 10:42 PM
It must be wonderful seeing your seeds grow and your uncut gems sparkle. Couldn't agree more about instructables. They've got a great think tank opperation going on here. Thanks You EVERYONE involved.
acesnanna says: Jan 30, 2009. 2:39 PM
Thank you for your forgiving nature! When my children were applying for entrance to different colleges we each proof read their "product".....I was shocked to see their spelling.....then realized it's genetic...I couldn't live without spell check! Before that it was FRANKLIN.... I think you are quite right about the written word suffering from disuse!! What president wanted our schools to teach "Ebonics?" Two hundred years people have been working to crawl UP! What a travesty that would have been! Perhaps it wouldn't hurt for us to go back a hundred years for education standards. I know many people who have graduated this local "A rated" school. People who graduated without the abilities to read or to express them selves in basic English! America needs to do something! Washington State had a Wasel exam. The children had to pass these basic questions before graduating! They were administering the test in Senior year. The basic test was great. It should have been administered in sixth grade. Everything including your local paper is written at a sixth grade level! Instead of using it earlier to see what their needs are, they discontinued the test because to many kids were failing ! If they couldn't pass it in sixth grade; they could USE the help in the things they were missing, so they would truly be educated when they graduated! Then there is the aspect of Each child fitting into some mold, cookie cutter kids! Shhhhhhhh just pass me the ADHD Pill! Aces'Nanna
prabbit22m (author) says: Jan 30, 2009. 3:48 PM
Oh, I think that was president Jessey Jackson ... President number 42 1/2
prabbit22m (author) says: Jan 30, 2009. 3:42 PM
Haha, Ace's you're killing me! Hahaha. You're the best! True, I don't know what I would do without spell check either. At least I try to learn from it and not just use it as a crutch. When I check spelling and it doesn't find any mistakes I feel like the teacher just gave me a big gold star sticker on my homework. :) My wife taught ESL (English as a Second Language) for a few years and they wanted her to teach such words as: Kinda, Gimme and Wanna! That's one hell of a story about the exam. I guess it goes to show that not all decisions are based on what's morally best. In fact I would venture to gess that most aren't these days. They were probably losing funds with less graduates. Aggg ... what is this world coming to? Oh, and the cookie cutter kids and drug resolutions ... don't even get me started. The youth of our nation is doomed. The worst part is, when I'm ready to retire, they'll be running the place. Can you imagine? Eeek.
guitarman63mm says: Jan 29, 2009. 12:21 PM
Sorry if I came off a bit hostile. I have been shocked through my own carelessness, though it was only several amps. True, better safe than sorry. I'm referring to the components in a lamp adapter's casing....last time I opened one up, that's what I saw.
_soapy_ says: Feb 9, 2009. 1:42 AM
I doubt you were shocked by several amps - you'd be dead.

It's the volts that jolt, and the mills that kill. And by mills, it refers to milliamps, thousandths of an amp. 65mA across your heart is pretty certainly deadly. Above 200mA the heart is totally overwhelmed and goes into fibrillation. Several amps would have boiled your water and blown you to bits.

Personally, I'd use a voltmeter or a neon or a voltstick to test the power at the socket, then I'd try this trick with the plastic bottle. No potato juice to clear up, either!
prabbit22m (author) says: Feb 9, 2009. 9:24 AM
Yes, "across your heart" that MIGHT be true. That's to say if you pushed metal pins through your chest that touched your heart on both sides and put that voltage and current thorugh.

Here's the thing about voltage and current and why I kind of chuckle when people say it's the amps that kill not the volts. Ohm's law states that volts and amps are directly related. Volts = Amps x Resistance. People never say, resistance is what kills, although that would have the same merrit in my mind. You see, depending on how far away the wires are when they touch you, how moist your skin is, how much water you drank etc determines the resistance of you and the circut you'll be completing when you touch the wires. When you touch wires in your house you will ALWAYS experience that voltage (110V in USA 220 elswhere). Voltage is a constant in this equation if we're talking about house wiring (except dryer,stove) Depending on the resistance YOU create (distance of wires when they touch you and your moisture ect) is the ONLY determining factor of how many amps will be drawn through those wires and through you. And, since those wires can deliver a lot of amps (say a 10 amp breaker) the only thing that decides how much current you absorb is your resistance.

Ohms law also concludes taht if the resistance you make is exactly the same and you get shocked with 220V vs 110V you'll get souble the amperage through you at 220V as compared to 110V. Please look this up if you disagree because it's true. V=IR IF R remains constant and V is doubled then I has to be double.

How else would you explain being shocked by a 12V battery in a car? it's capable of 600 Amps (the starter uses about 300 Amps) and yet you can barely feel the shock when you touch the pos and neg terminal with each hand (even moist). It certainly doesn't kill you "because of the amps". This is because the resistance your body createst to complete the circuit is high rendering only a small amount of current to pass. YOUR resistance is the only thing that regulates the amps drawn.

Your body had a very high resistance. It takes a LOT of power to get even the smallest amount of electricity to the center of your chest and across your heart. That's why Defibrillators use THOUSANDS of Volts and up to 30 Amps (not miliamps)

Being shocked by several amps is easily surviveable and quite common. Here's an instruction manual for a defibrillator analyzer. It's a machine that you can hook up any defib and see it's output. On LOW mode it's range is 1000V and 24 Amps (not miliamps). Ohms law proves that is the same amouht of watts (energy ie joules) as 218 Amps at 110V! WOW. Of course there's some other science and physics involved that give reason to use higher voltage and lower amperage. Higher voltage penetrates and travels with less loss. It's the same same reason the electricity company uses high voltage on power lines and then uses a transformer to step down the voltage to your house so the electricity can travel farther without loss. There is also biology to consider and your body's resonance and natural voltage potential. That's why they use monophasic and biphasic pulses or waves of energy.

So, now on to stun guns and tasers. Those create 10,000 to 50,000 volts! The same as a good coil on a car (all us mechanics have experienced that before!). The limiting factor on thigs like that is the current. Unlike the high current potential of the house wiring, theses small devices are only capable of producing a certain amount of power and have timers to only allow it for a small amount of time. Tazers and stun guns are about .003 Amps (that's 3 miliamps).

Let's just use this question to determine if "amps is what kills"
Let's say you had a choice to either be shocked by a source that was 10,000 and .003 amps (a taser) or a source that was 12 volts and 1 amp (a laptop charger transformer). Which would you choose? The one with the higher amps I bet.

Anyway, sorry to ramble, I'm an electrical engineer and I can't stop myself.
_soapy_ says: Feb 17, 2009. 1:04 AM
Yes and no. I can't fully agree with your statement there, because I said "shocked by several amps" and you agreed with me - by pointing out that he didn't take several amps at all. That the voltage source has the potential to put out several amps (or even hundreds of amps) makes no difference, as there is rarely enough voltage to drive it across the high resistance of the skin.

This is why Tazers have little barbs to stab you with on the ends of the wires. Gets through the skin.

If you actually took several amps through any part of your body, you would (probably) be unable to let go, the muscles would be fully contracted and your nervous system overridden. After a minute or two, you'd start to smell of cooking meat, but the pain would be barely noticeable. After a while, you would die.

If you *have* to test something as live HV, do it with the back of your hand - that way you can't grab hold and not let go. Then just hope it isn't both HV and high powered, or that spark could be powerful enough for your skin to boil instantly.

You can test this by getting a steak and making it twitch with a battery, then putting a mains lead through it. If you want to simulate high powered RF, stick it in your microwave.
prabbit22m (author) says: Feb 17, 2009. 12:46 PM
Yes, tazers have barbs to help get energy directly into your body better, but also, just as important if not more, so the user can be a safe distance from the suspect. What about stun guns? They can have the same effect (the good ones anyway) even over clothes. They just have to overcome the resistance of clothes and air gap. Yes, I agree with this comment >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "That the voltage source has the potential to put out several amps (or even hundreds of amps) makes no difference" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUT only when it's a low voltage. I guess what I was trying to say is that there is always only ONE thing that limits how much amperage runs through you. Either the devise's voltage is limited to a low value so that when applied to your resistance only draws a certain amount of current like a car battery that is CAPABLE of 600 amps but limits voltage to 12V so when applied to your body only draws 12ma. >>> OR, the source has a limited current and can only produce a certain amount of amperage like a taser that has high voltage but limits the current. In this case the amperage potential of the voltage source determines if it's a "prick", a "knock you down" or a "kill you" shock. So there are two cases here, both with different determining factors. Just because something has high amperage potential has nothing to do with how many amps the person will take because their resistance determines that. --->The Resistance Of Your Body Is The Determining Factor In How Many Amps Will Be Drawn In This Case<--- But, with high voltage, the amount of ammperage the circuit is capable of delivering is very important because this is often what determines how many amps will flow. Some stun guns are 50KV and 50,000 volts across 1000 ohms (your body's resistance) is 50 amps. If stun guns had the potential to produce 600 amps like a car battery they would be leathal. -->The Amperage Potential Of These Devices Are The Determining Factor Of How Much Current Will Be Drawn<-- Maybe we can make a statement that brings it all together? Something like: The amount of soruce voltage and a persons resistance is what determines how many amps will be drawn through the person. The higher the voltage and the lower the resitance, the higher the current. HOWEVER, this only holds true until the potential current of the source has reached it's maximum (or limited) potential. In which case the amount of current drawn through the person is determined by the current limiting features of the devise. How does that sound?
guitarman63mm says: Feb 9, 2009. 3:38 AM
Exactly, across your heart. That amperage statement was certainly just a random figure, but hypothetically, if both electrodes are, say, half a foot a way from each other in your leg, the 'circuit', per say, wouldn't go through your heart.

I know not the actual figures, only that in my more naïve days, I shocked myself many times on live circuits (using 9v, still carrying hefty mA)
_soapy_ says: Feb 17, 2009. 1:13 AM
You shocked yourself with 9V? I'm not even sure that is possible, unless you stab yourself with the electrodes, or test on your tongue. <br/><br/>Assuming you were properly earthed, and your skin resistance was for damp or broken skin, at about 1000 ohms (rather than 100x that for dry skin) then you will have taken a whopping 9mA.<br/><br/>V=IR --> V/R=I <br/>9= I * 1000 --> 9/1000 = I = 0.009 Amps or 9mA<br/><br/>So yes, surely you are lucky to be alive, showering with a 9V battery.<br/>
guitarman63mm says: Feb 17, 2009. 11:09 AM
Did you ever consider the fact that it wasn't a battery, but a power adapter?
_soapy_ says: Feb 23, 2009. 11:15 AM
Which is heavier, a ton of feathers or a ton of bricks?
prabbit22m (author) says: Jan 29, 2009. 2:13 PM
No no you're not hostile. it's all in good fun. I would imagine there would be those electronics in a light if it were a DC bulb using AC as a source. Thanks for the comments
ac-dc says: Feb 5, 2009. 5:39 PM
Any incandescent DC bulb (glass w/filament like this one that broke) will run from AC, there would be no need for any other electronics besides a step-down transformer if it were a low voltage lamp.
blakeredfield says: Feb 9, 2009. 10:39 AM
Dude. Awsome instructable. Its this kind of thing that populates my pool of knowledge that I KNOW will come in handy somewhere. To all spud method fans: You'd rather have a vegetable than a smooth tough piece of plastic between you and razor edged metal with broken glass? Instructables arent pissing contests and there are more than one way to do things. But the thing is, you never know what you might have around you at some given time to solve a problem. The more options you have the better.
StarBlades says: Feb 7, 2009. 5:01 PM
another way to do it is to unplug, and then twist it out counter clock with some needle nose pliers
sensoryhouse says: Feb 8, 2009. 1:43 AM
needle nose pliers are all you need.
purplekitty says: Feb 6, 2009. 4:35 PM
Awesome, so simple and so useful. Light bulbs are always breaking in our house so this will really help. Thank you for sharing.
RandomHero says: Feb 5, 2009. 4:07 PM
this works alot better and easier if you just cut a potatoe in half and shove ti in the glass or metal or whatever and unscrew it that way, i did it when i shot the garage light out with a slingshot...
cyberpageman says: Feb 5, 2009. 6:49 AM
Petroleum jelly is an insulator, so don't use too much to lubricate the bulb threads.
prabbit22m (author) says: Feb 5, 2009. 9:23 AM
Yes, good point. Personally I use dielectric grease but I doubt that's a common household item. In either case I agree only a small amount should be used. Put a very small dab of it on your finger NO BIGGER THAN the size of an eraser on the end of a pencil. Maybe even half that size would be sufficient. Rub it into two fingers then rub the threads of the bulb. Does that sound about right?
cyberpageman says: Feb 5, 2009. 11:15 AM
That sounds good--just enough to put a thin film on the threads.
bgc1999 says: Feb 5, 2009. 10:46 AM
I used a potato

disconnect before use it, please
pocketdoc says: Jan 28, 2009. 2:26 PM
Use CFLs and you won't need to worry as much. Better for environment and they last A LOT longer.
prabbit22m (author) says: Jan 28, 2009. 6:20 PM
CFL's still break down at the base because the plastic gets brittle. Yes, they last longer so your less likely to run into this problem because you'll change bulbs less. Good point. Personally, I don't like, nor use, CFL's because of their chemicals namely mercury. I would debate that they're better for the environment. Better for the electricity company who can't keep up with the power consumption maybe. I choose to use lower wattage incandescent bulbs and not use so many. For example I just have two 40 watt bulbs in my living room. There are 6 sockets for lights in that room. 6 CFL's vs. my two 40 watt bulbs is about the same energy usage. It's a little dim but I I'm doing my part to conserve energy AND save the environment by not using CFL's. Some day there will be a cheap LED that performs well and we'll all be happy.
Biopyro says: Feb 5, 2009. 9:16 AM
Good for you. If you do object then ok, but even better you are still taking care not to use energy wastefully.
ReCreate says: Jan 29, 2009. 12:22 PM
I remember Someone opening a cfl bulb they said "DONT CRACK THE BULB BECAUSE IT WILL RELEASE MERCURY!!!" but then someone pointed out that they have only 11Miligrams of mercury while the lethal limit is 100! Go figure
awang8 says: Jan 29, 2009. 11:39 PM
That means 9 lightbulbs would nearly be enough to kill someone! If you open a supermarket, try not to drop the box of CFLs.
ReCreate says: Jan 30, 2009. 10:32 AM
actually the mercury is vapor so per bulb you would consume about 5miligrams it should take well over 20 to kill ill do a test ill see how many broken CFLs it takes for me to die is there some sort of mercury antidote?
SteampunkToreador says: Feb 5, 2009. 5:33 AM
No, there is no antidote for mercury poisoning. And mercury poisoning is cumulative... but you're also more likely to develop it from eating certain types of fish than from exposure to the tiny bit of mercury in a CFL. Generally speaking, though, the mercury in a CFL is liquid when the lamp is in a de-energized state -- the ballast of the bulb vaporizes and excites the mercury atoms, causing them to emit UV radiation, which is converted to white light by the phosphor coating inside the glass. (How do I know these things? You learn a lot about fluorescent lighting in the US Navy and working in the electrical department at Home Depot.)
awang8 says: Jan 29, 2009. 2:17 AM
In my country they sell LED lightbulbs. They're about $3 and it's extremely bright. Great for the enviroment too...
cegu says: Feb 5, 2009. 8:14 AM
I thought you have everything there in US. We got them here in Yugoslavia, first came about 2 yrs ago. But nobody likes them. Electrical companies even gave away free CFL-s for every household, but still, people like vacuum-ones better. Good thing we got nuclear power. :)
SteampunkToreador says: Feb 5, 2009. 5:39 AM
Where is that, awang? I've seen LED bulbs here in the States, but very rarely, and most aren't very bright either. At Home Depot, we sold LED nightlights which emitted the equivalent light output of a 7-watt, 120 V~ lightbulb (like an old-style screw-in outdoor Christmas bulb) for about US$4, and last week I saw a 60-watt equivalent at Wal-Mart for nearly US$30... so that's a little expensive right now, while I can get a pack of four 60-watt equivalent (13-watt) CFLs for about US$7.
awang8 says: Feb 5, 2009. 9:36 PM
Australia. In coles you can get LED lights which draw 10 watts but the output is equivelent to a 75 watt incandecent bulb.
prabbit22m (author) says: Jan 29, 2009. 10:30 AM
YAY! LED is the future of lighting. That's great and CHEAP!!! I got a couple a while back and they were very expensive. My wife refuses to use them because they are too pure white (almost blue). Do they have a soft white color one where you live yet?
ReCreate says: Jan 29, 2009. 12:24 PM
they are to natural coloured? My motto it"The whiter the better ,The yellower the...worser"
prabbit22m (author) says: Jan 29, 2009. 8:34 PM
Yes, that's my motto too but I need to compromise with the wife. She hates the pure white/blue light. Says the yellow is more "natural". I can see her point. The sun or fire has never produced that kind of light so technically it is "un-natural". Some day we'll have yellow LED's and we'll both be happy.
awang8 says: Jan 29, 2009. 11:38 PM
One day they'll add a diffused yellow LED to balance...
pocketdoc says: Jan 28, 2009. 7:23 PM
Good points, prabbit.
JayDub says: Feb 5, 2009. 7:51 AM
Thank you! Brilliant!
rtermaat says: Feb 5, 2009. 6:22 AM
Thanks, I have 2 broken lights and have just been doing nothing for 6 months.
baztastic says: Feb 5, 2009. 5:28 AM
I've also found that a similar effect can be achieved using a carrot, although yours seems a bit more re-usable.
Snillet says: Feb 5, 2009. 5:49 AM
Does that mean we should be looking forward to a carrot-tastic instructable?
mg0930mg says: Jan 31, 2009. 11:18 PM
I like the potato method myself, but this is good to know. Thanks.
maruawe says: Jan 28, 2009. 8:37 AM
I use a ring inserter (used to insert outer rings on pressure seals). They are like pliers but work backwards from pliers as you squeeze the points separate
Oh yes, they are insulated
prabbit22m (author) says: Jan 28, 2009. 9:33 AM
I'm actually surprised I don't know of that tool unless we call it by a different name here. Are you referring to "snap ring pliers"? I have a set of those. You can change them from ID to OD and have them work opposite of pliers like you said. I have the one with interchangeable tips made by bluepoint. I'll have to give those a try next time and see how they work. Mine are insulated but only by plastic handle cover things. I would be leary of using them if the socket was energized in case I slipped off the plastic handles and grabbed the steel.
maruawe says: Jan 30, 2009. 8:30 AM
i have had some of my tools for so long i name the tool for what I'm doing at the time....snap ring sounds about right...
prabbit22m (author) says: Jan 28, 2009. 9:25 AM
Of course the right tool for the job is always the the the most convenient way to do things. But let's consider: The cost of of ring insert pliers vs. a used water bottle The odds that the averager person will ever use ring insert pliers ever again. And again, then you wouldn't get to melt plastic ... who doesn't love that?
ac-dc says: Feb 5, 2009. 6:07 PM
Once you have melted, probably oxidized some of the plastic, it may no longer be recyclable. Better to try first with a wooden broom handle, that will get out 90% of bulbs and yet we can't say a melted bottle will necessarily get out 100% either.
maruawe says: Jan 30, 2009. 8:37 AM
Some of the tools that I purchased back in the sixties cost less than a bottle of water. I guess that's why I can't remember the correct name for some of them.. of course, you probably were not even born back then... shucks I'm old enough to remember 25 cent gas and movies at 15 cents with candy(big size ) for a nickle........
prabbit22m (author) says: Jan 30, 2009. 10:59 AM
Yes, Maruawe, I would say you have a few years on me. In 1965 my parents didn't even know each other yet and I was still 10 years to come. Haha, Thanks for the great comments.
maruawe says: Jan 29, 2009. 4:46 AM
I am a hand tool fanatic. I have tools dating from the 1800's. and I guess that over the years I have just become accustom to using them . Did not realize that most people don't have these handy tools to work with. The cost is minimal at $2.99 (SMALL) $3.99(LARGE ) at Harbor Freight. I also use them to separate decals when working with etchings. They help in the small places that are hard to get to. PS they also work for their intended purpose..
prabbit22m (author) says: Jan 29, 2009. 10:40 AM
Wow, sounds like quite a collection thre maruawe. I, too, have become accustom to having tools around as I have been an auto technician and hydraulic technician. It amazes me to find that some people have one small drawer in the garge dedicated to a couple screw drivers and a putty knife and that's it. I wonder what they do when they need to tighten a torx head. I guess they call me? Haha
Ell-Jay says: Jan 29, 2009. 12:02 PM
I have a workshop full of tools - just about everything. But I have yet to go to a hardware store and find a "broken lightbulb extraction tool!" I am the only person in my neighbourhood with Torx screwdrivers. It's cool to be able to loan them out!
SteampunkToreador says: Feb 5, 2009. 5:42 AM
Amazingly enough, you can get one at the Home Depot in the electrical department... in the lightbulb changer pack -- comes with attachments for removing floodlights from hard-to-reach recessed lighting fixtures, bulbs that are out of reach...
11010010110 says: Jan 28, 2009. 3:18 PM
its a plastic bottle. why the heck you need to turn off power ? for the harder cases you may want to push the bottle to the socket while its still hot after the meltng
prabbit22m (author) says: Jan 28, 2009. 6:06 PM
Just thinking safety first, that's all. Sometimes the wires inside the bulb can be left hanging and when you push something in there (even plastic) it can bend those wires and short out and cause a spark, cause heat, or blow a breaker. I don't want to give someone a heart attack. Great thought about pushing it in while still hot. I'll give that a try.
awang8 says: Jan 29, 2009. 11:42 PM
When it's still hot... It's just not hot enough to soften the bottle...
babloon says: Jan 28, 2009. 3:51 PM
Good idea !!! You can also use a cork of a bottle of wine. The best thing is that the cork is smooth enough to fit tightly in the socket. Always use a pair of working gloves to avoid cutting yourself with the glass. Sorry for my English, My mother language is French.
Ell-Jay says: Jan 29, 2009. 11:58 AM
Bonne idée! Je n'avais jamais pensé a ca, et j'ai beaucoup de bouchons chez nous! Are you in Québec, ou en France?
babloon says: Jan 29, 2009. 12:28 PM
Merci, mais je n'ai pas de mérite, j'ai lu cette suggestion dans un manuel de bricolage il y a quelques année. Thanks, but I do not own this Idea, i red it in a craftbook some years ago. J'habite effectivement Québec ! Live in Québec city.
Ell-Jay says: Jan 29, 2009. 1:12 PM
Cool _ c'est encore une bonne idée. J'ai reçu mes meilleures idées de mon père (anglo d'Angleterre). Rock on, babloon!
prabbit22m (author) says: Jan 28, 2009. 6:03 PM
Great Idea. I have never heard of that one. Sounds like it would work great.
grenades_and_ham says: Jan 27, 2009. 5:09 PM
well you can use a potato too its easier
prabbit22m (author) says: Jan 27, 2009. 5:22 PM
Yes, I've heard of that but potatoes have moisture which can lead to electric shock. Also, some lights, like the one in my demo, have a small neck down to the socket where a potato wouldn't fit. Besides, you wouldn't get to melt plastic, who doesn't want to do that?
Ell-Jay says: Jan 29, 2009. 12:07 PM
Uh-oh - you sound like a dangerous dude. I recall being in a garage with a spark-plug reconditioning machine. One day I decided to stick my finger in the "test" hole, and press the button. I woke up about 15 seconds later on the other side of the building. Did the same a week later. I'd probably do it again ... Help!
Ell-Jay says: Jan 29, 2009. 11:53 AM
Turn of the power, cut off the bottom of a potato, jam it onto the remains of the bulb, and unscrew. Bonus - you can recycle the potato by eating it.
jimmy dean says: Jan 29, 2009. 10:54 AM
What about an insulated pair of pliers? This seems a little overkill.
acesnanna says: Jan 28, 2009. 3:21 PM
throw the breaker and use a half a potato stuck into the broken glass to unscrews it.......put in new bulb and turn breaker back on...... why be so complicated? I've used this method for forty years.. It works for me.....those new bulbs.....I fear are going to be another boon doggle.....they have mercury in side them....when we have the oceans polluted with mercury already....Do we really need to start on the land fills??? they may last longer....and by the way our old bulbs are outlawed in Australia.... Good Day....
prabbit22m (author) says: Jan 28, 2009. 6:00 PM
I agree the potato works fine but it has the potential of shock if you "think" you tuned off the power but really didn't. Also, as mentioned before, this type of light fixture has a long narrow neck leading down to the socket where a potato wouldn't fit. Most important, this instructable was in response to the "save the bottle" contest. You kind of need a bottle worked into the instructable to be in that contest. It it were a "save the potato" that would be a different story. Couldn't agree more about new bulbs. Too bad they outlawed them in Oz :( Someday they'll have a good cheap LED bulb that looks soft white and we'll all be happy.
acesnanna says: Jan 28, 2009. 6:58 PM
Hay very good points.....Prabbit....and on top of it you made me smile... thanks for the correction.......and the *smile*
prabbit22m (author) says: Jan 29, 2009. 10:49 AM
laughter is the best medicine and the key to a healthy happy life. Glad I could be a part of that. It wasn't intended as a correction per say. There are many great ways to get that piece out. I get a lot of comments that offer other ways but they don't seem to realize this instructable is for the "Save The Bottle" contest. Maybe I'll put a little blurb at the top of my instructable. Thanks for the comments and for taking a look at my instructable.
awang8 says: Jan 29, 2009. 2:20 AM
What are the old bulbs? Non-CFLs? They're not outlawed in Australia, they sell them at the supermarket.
prabbit22m (author) says: Jan 29, 2009. 10:18 AM
The "old bulbs" we are referring to are incandescent bulbs. You know, the kind we've been using for centuries with the glass bulb and tungsten filament. Australia has started to phase out those bulbs. The plan is to be completely phased out by 2010.
awang8 says: Jan 29, 2009. 11:41 PM
What? Next year?!?!?!

NOOO!!!! Down with mercury!

My living room would look ridiculous with CFLS

LEDs are better. They're kinda expensive but they'll get cheaper.
prabbit22m (author) says: Jan 30, 2009. 10:40 AM
I couldn't agree more. LED's are the way to go and they WILL get cheaper.
netbuddy says: Jan 29, 2009. 7:49 AM
Unplug lamp, squire a dash of WD40 in to the top gap between the screw cap and the holder, wait then try. WD40 apart from being a water displacement liquid, it also lubricates and loosens items like nuts on bolts.
prabbit22m (author) says: Jan 29, 2009. 10:44 AM
Yes, if you have some WD40 around that's a great suggestion. Thanks netbuddy.
Scarhawk says: Jan 29, 2009. 2:44 AM
Hot plastic gives off toxic chemicals that should not be breathed. Turning off the circuit breaker and the light switch and using needle-nose pliers works fine.
prabbit22m (author) says: Jan 29, 2009. 10:33 AM
I disagree. Heating up plastic to it's soft stage doesn't give of a gas. Needle nose pliers?? Have you ever been shocked Scarhawk? I might be alone with this opinion but it's totally not worth the risk. Besides, I made this instructable to enter in the "save the bottle contest". You kind of need a plastic bottle to be part of the instructable now don't ya?
ezuk says: Jan 28, 2009. 1:47 PM
Brilliant! I'm gonna try this some day.
ac1D says: Jan 27, 2009. 5:58 PM
Great idea! Where I work, there is over 1000 light bulb, I have 2-3 to replace daily. Next time it happen, I know what to do. Usually(and we got train this way) we switch them all off, then we use pliers. Im working in a mart, btw.
ve2vfd says: Jan 27, 2009. 4:14 PM
Great idea, but your should add "UNPLUG THE LIGHT" after turning it off... One is never too carefull with electricity.
prabbit22m (author) says: Jan 27, 2009. 4:34 PM
Great addition, that is IF it has a cord. Thanks for the idea. I will add that in the instructions.
phapboy says: Jan 27, 2009. 3:25 PM
great idea!
rimar2000 says: Jan 27, 2009. 3:03 PM
Very good idea, prabbit22m
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