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Some friends and I are converting a school bus into an RV/Roadtripmobile to take across the country next summer. This summer, we're going to be doing a lot of work getting the bus (and ourselves) ready for the trip. This is something I've wanted to do for a long time, and while there are some well documented bus conversion projects online, they never quite gave me what I wanted.

So my goal with this is to address everything I had wondered about before I got my bus, and detail it simply and clearly online (both here and at our website: juanway.org). There will be more at all major stages including installing bunks, benches, basic plumbing, and getting the bus to run on veggie oil. But we're not there yet. This one is about the first major obstacle - removing the seats.
 
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Step 1: What you'll need

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You'll need a different tool depending on where you're unbolting / unscrewing.

You'll need a ratchet (socket wrench) for the nuts inside the bus.
Where the seats were bolted to the side of the bus, we used a 1/2" socket.
Where the seats were bolted in the center (next to the aisle) we used a 7/16" socket.
There were a couple odd bolts which had probably been replaced by a mechanic after the bus was manufactured, so be ready for that.
Underneath the bus, someone should hold the nut in place with a wrench (7/16" in our case).

Many sites recommend an angle grinder, to just pop the bolts off, and as far as I have seen that works, but if you have the man power, the ratchet/wrench combo is pretty easy, and several people can work at once. Also, more people are likely to have those than an angle grinder.

Step 2: Disconnect seats from the walls of bus

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This is by far the quickest part of the whole process. Have one person go around to each seat and remove the two bolts connecting the seat to the side of the bus. They'll need a ratchet and a 1/2" socket.

While this person is busy doing this, you can get started on the next step.
I can see some poor school bus driver somewhere pulling out of a parking space in the morning and the seats in the back start banging around.
Schmidty162 years ago
man my best friend and i drempt of makeing a bus into a hose on the road when we were just like 8years old and i still dream of doing it
somjuan (author)  Schmidty162 years ago
Keep an eye out for new instructables coming from me then. It's been a while, admittedly, since I posted this one, and lots has happened to the bus. It has been completely outfitted into a road trip machine, and I'm now renovating it into a 4 season camper. I'll be starting in the coming weeks, and I'll be better about documenting things this time around.
ok i cant wait to see what u have done
somjuan (author)  Schmidty162 years ago
To keep you busy in the meantime, the website for my roadtrip is juanway.org. There's a bit of documentation on there, but not much. I'm building separate site for the bus itself, and will be documenting changes both here and there. I'll try and make some slideshows or videos of what has already been done, but I can only do so much there since it's all been completed for some time now. The rest of the project will be posted as parts are completed. This will be a slow process, and I'm not expecting to finish completely until the spring.
ok cool ill and it to my favorits to look at here and there
ok cool
Phaethon3 years ago
Hey, how much would you say those bus seats weigh on average? I'm trying to do some weight calculations for a project of my own, and it'd help to know what the weight of a school bus is without them.
somjuan (author)  Phaethon3 years ago
I'm not really sure - I never specifically weighed any of them, and I wouldn't say I'm good at estimating. That said, 30lbs is probably a safe bet, certainly no more than 50. I'm actually rather curious about the weight of the bus without seats as well. I've never brought it through scales, but before I made any modifications to it, the gross weight was listed as 26,000lbs. I've since added at least as much weight as the seats I removed, so I'll be sure to make a note of it if I ever get it weighed.
Nice! I've been looking to make a converted bus, and I'd love to see what you come up with. Keep "em coming, I'll be watching.
saberwing4 years ago
how do you get under the bus?
somjuan (author)  saberwing4 years ago
It's as easy as just crawling underneath.  There's a whole lot of space down there - enough to attach some sizable water tanks or cook a meal (when there is no other shade).
CameronSS6 years ago
Will your next Instructable be "What To Do With Twentysomething Bus Seats"?
somjuan (author)  CameronSS6 years ago
fair question - I was hoping I'd be able to sell them to other college students (to use in dorm rooms or whatever). but when I had been thinking that, I thought they had 4 legs...and they don't. So understandably, no one really wants them. I'm thinking of just calling up the local bus company and seeing if they're interested.
mbear somjuan5 years ago
Couldn't you just cut off the two long legs?
I know a fella who uses bus seats for a horse-and-cart, or go-cart, stuff like that. But he's not the type who'd be bothered looking for someone selling them, if you know what I mean...

...I mean he steals them from the bus. :P
Weld a left seat to a right seat, you'll have a double bench with 4 legs.
Obviously you haven't ridden a bus in a long time. Having to do so twice a day for the last 6 years of my life, I can say that there is absolutely no reason to use these for seating.
the seats on my bus are pretty comfy,the driver never closes the front door so its not hot,we even have a tv
Sounds like you ride first class :)
It is a Mercedes Intouro.Google it.
they dont use the tv and no radio
It would be too weak
that is where braces come in
You beat me to the comment!
They seem to be in good condition...If I were running the bus company, I'd buy them for replacements.
JohnJY5 years ago
You should then install the seats backwards! That'd be freak'n sweat!
twocvbloke5 years ago
Just what they need at Davesfarm... :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBdMPWS6vT8
you should of mounted a beta camera with duckt tape onto the upper coner of the bus and made a time lapse of the seat removal, that would have been awesome!!!
somjuan (author)  jetsmiley1235 years ago
good call - I think we'll do that for when we build the benches and bunks.
scafool5 years ago
Keep posting your progress. I can see from your blog you have it in the school shop and are doing the conversion to run on vegetable oil instead of diesel. (Nice whale too.)
somjuan (author)  scafool5 years ago
will do - but I'm waiting until I can post a complete instructable before I post anything else
theRIAA6 years ago
paint yellow over the the "s" in school
Ora theRIAA6 years ago
chool bus?
Derin Ora6 years ago
no also paint off the h and........

"COOL BUS"

Ora Derin6 years ago
More like "C OOL BUS"
Derin Ora6 years ago
yea
CHOO
That's cool! I always wanted to make an RV out of a small bus. Beware though.... cops typically HATE RV'ers who have an obviously cheaply converted bus & will ticket/harrass them as much as possible if they think you are living in a bus fulltime (they especially hate the "hippy types" who do this). But since yours is just a party rv you probably wont have any trouble. Btw.... How hard would it be to just add an extra set of legs to those seats? Or like another poster said.... weld two seats together (but ad some kind of support legs in the middle).
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(nearly) Everyone is a tax paying citizen, and responsibility is in the eye of the beholder. Don't restrict your own freedoms, just because you may get hassled for actually using them.
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Sorry, probably a bit of an overreaction, it appeared to me as though you were advocating lying on your back and purring. A huge overreaction.
Wolley6 years ago
A cutting torch is the fastest way, just have a fire putter outer standing by. The bolts just fall out the bottom. Rent is pretty cheap also for the work involved (labor cost). Looks cool bus livin, cool!
iv always wanted to do this. how about you lay some carpet down then use the emergency lights as a power source for what ever u want.
lol, my friends and I have always wanted to do that, how much did a bus cost?
Cool!
Kozz6 years ago
That's pretty awesome. I envy you, and wish I'd done something just a *little* bit crazy back when I was unmarried and without children. ;)

You know what might be neat is if you took two of the benches from opposite sides of the aisle and re-mounted them, facing each other, on one side, with a table in the middle. It'd be a nifty dining area, if you had plans for such a thing. In fact, I somehow think it would be really neat to find new and creative ways to re-use a few of those bench seats in your construction.

I look forward to more updates on your bus project!
LinuxH4x0r6 years ago
Awesome! Bus RV?! You might want to invest in an impact wrench. I got one from harbor freight for only $10. Saves tons of time. Great job!
somjuan (author)  LinuxH4x0r6 years ago
I don't know if an impact wrench would be a good idea, at least for this job. It would make the job for the person on top easier, but in all honesty, its a pretty easy job to begin with. The problem would be for the person on the bottom to hold on, which was pretty hard, even just from the torque of a hand-tool. I think if you're going to use a power tool, an angle grinder (~$30) would be simplest - wouldn't even need a person underneath.
Oh, didn't think about holding on. (I got my grinder for $15) No, grinding is such a waste of good bolts
bumpus6 years ago
i so want to do this aswell, where and how much did you pay for your bus?
somjuan (author)  bumpus6 years ago
eBay is your friend. Although, maybe notsomuch now as it was when I bought this. I live in CT, and bought the bus from someone in MN, so I had to drive it 1200 miles to get it home. Diesel wasn't $5/gallon when I did this. But this bus I got for under $2k