Riveted Maille from Scratch.

Riveted Maille from Scratch.
There are already a number of Instructables on making maille, and making various projects from maille. The one thing that I found was missing was how to make riveted maille.

Now, in the past I've dabbled in riveted maille a bit, my maille and plates cuise (that's thigh armour) and all the repairs on my cuirass. Thing is, for those projects I went and bought pre-made rings and rivets then just assembled them. That is hardly the DIY ethic that Instructables espouses now is it? So with a quick prayer to the gods of tedium and insanity I decided to try my hand at making my own riveted maille, from scratch.

Riveted maille is really done 2 ways, wedge rivets and Round rivets. the difference is pretty self explanatory. Wedge rivets are tiny triangles, Round rivets are tiny bits of wire. To the best of my knowledge maille started out with round rivets, then at some point, around the 14th century i think, a lot of European armouries switched over to wedge rivets, whereas maille from the middle east and Asia stuck with the round rivets. that's all pretty generalized, but it gets the idea across.
In any case, I'm making maille sleeves for my armour and my armour is a near/middle eastern style. So, round Rivets it is.

Enough of my babbling, this seems like a decent enough intro. Now onto the good stuff.

 
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Step 1The Tools I Use.

The Tools I Use.
Tool wise you only really need a few more tools then you need to make butted maille.
Here is what you'll need.

Standard maille tools:
-A pair of small pliers
-a mandrel for winding coils
-side cutters to cut the coils (these will be modified slightly)

The special stuff
-Rivet setting tongs
-a ring flatener
-a hammer
-a punch.

Now, to start with You'll need to grind or file a notch in your side cutters a little back from the tip. this will let you cut your rings with a little overlap. that's pretty simple.

Rivet setting tongs are pretty simple too. I made mine from a $4 pair of carpenters nippers. You could also make them from some linesman pliers, or really any pliers with about 6 inches of handle. just grind the jaws down till they are smooth and close flush, then take a 1/8" drill bit and put a little divot into one side of the jaws. that's all there is to it.

For flattening my rings I use a piston setup. I scrounged and scavenged mine. it's just a really big brake caliper from something, and 2 chunks of 1" steel plate, one of which has hole that's about the same size as the caliper on it. alternately, with some practice you can skip the piston and flatten your rings with just a hammer, or I've seen pictures of a Whitney punch with bits modified to flatten rings. My experience is that the piston setup has the quickest learning curve and gives me the most consistent results.

the hammer is pretty self explanatory, use it to bash stuff.

That just leaves the punch. Historically speaking you'd most likely have a set of tongs with a drift and a matching hole in them and you would just pierce a hole in your rings. A lot of people still use variations on this method. I've also seen arbor presses modded to hold punches or drifts. Myself, I'm using my knock off Whitney punch with a 1/16" punch and die in it. In the future I'd like to try re-working a punch into a drift to see how that works, but until then, I'll just punch holes.



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Nov 12, 2011. 4:40 PMbmelton1 says:
I do not care how long this has been here. It is absolutely fantastic.
Jul 14, 2011. 4:23 PMilovefire70 says:
I have a question.
Where did you get the punch?
Aug 22, 2011. 10:09 AMichbinoadie says:
If memory serves, Princess Auto is a Canadian seller. For those in the US, Harbor Freight sells a similar set. Quality control on most items is dodgy, but they've got a solid return policy. Mine hasn't given me any trouble in its several years of service (primarily punching smaller holes in 16g mild steel). Unless you'll be doing some serious and frequent punching, Roper Whitney equipment is overkill. It's great quality, but you pay for it, even used (a testament to their lasting quality).
Aug 16, 2011. 2:57 PMmshate says:
Beautiful crafting sir. I am currently getting my feet wet with simple galvanized wire bent into rings. I think I will use your guide when I move onto my next mail project.
Awesome work!
Jul 10, 2011. 12:37 PMPyropitcher says:
This is insanely awesome, but I have a question. When you say "cut them with an overlap", you do this to make sure the flattened rings are wide enough in one area so the rivets can go through, correct? If so, wouldn't cutting them straight down the line, even with an overlap on the end, produce one overlapped ring and a bunch of normal ones? Can you describe how this would work to me please?
Jul 6, 2011. 7:32 PMninja of suburbia says:
Oh just noticed something, fyi-ish, sorry for being a coner, but you are not normalizing the rings here, you are simply annealing, or softening them. I would recommend taking the patches of mail as you finish them, and then heating them and quenching them to harden the rings, and then tempering them. might be too much work for a costume, tho.
Jul 7, 2011. 5:08 PMninja of suburbia says:
no actually, to normalize the rings you would have to align them north-south, so that the crystals in the steel realign north-south, or normalize.
Apr 29, 2011. 7:15 PMninja of suburbia says:
I very much like your 'ible. This is by far the most economical and concise set of instructions I have yet seen. As a blacksmith, allow me to offer some advice. Your last step before actually hooking the rings together should be to quench them, hardening the metal, but making more brittle. this is acomplished by heating the rings to a bright orange glow, then immersing them in cool water. Then, temper the metal, thus softening it to the proper consistency. this is achieved by polishing some part of the ring. (grinding, polishing, sanding, whatever, you just need a shiny surface.) then, lightly pass the blowtorch over it until you see colors in the polished metal. I would recommend doing this until you see the slightest tinge of yellow on the metal. then let it cool, and the rings will be about twice as strong. Props for the 'ible!
Apr 10, 2011. 12:40 PMjimmyjames85 says:
did you make the piston you use to flatten the ring or did you purchase it?
Dec 1, 2010. 9:15 AMAklash, The hunchback says:
Could you make an instructable for wedge rivets? I checked and there don't seem to be any
Mar 21, 2011. 3:10 PManex says:
With my experience in riveted mail, using wedge rivets isn't that complicated. In essence you flatten a ring (easiest to me because you have many anyway ) and flatten it nicely. Now to be honest i was taught by an experienced maker with out the use of measurements so i don't really know how flat. Then you take either a chisel and crease a line and use pliers to bend it back and forth till it breaks off or your wire cutters and cut pieces that are triangular in shape. The angle is such that when you insert the pointy end into your drifted hole it goes in about 2/3 the way. The rivet is then hammered flat in opposing directions (one side to the left and one to the right..... the resulting wedges smash together and fill the hole and extend to the out side and mash to the left and right causing a secure hold.

I understand this might be confusing but I hope this helps a bit.
Aug 22, 2011. 10:44 AMichbinoadie says:
To add to the author's advice:

In my experience, wedge rivets made from flattened wire work best if your material is 1-2 gauges thinner than your ring wire (e.g. 17g or 18g for 16g rings). You can also clip the wedges from strips of sheet metal, but I actually found that to be more work than simply flattening a length of wire.

The only significant difference in the process is the riveting, itself. For wedge rivets, you are PIERCING (i.e. no material is actually removed) a slit, not punching/drilling a hole. The piercing drift can be a manual (like a center or pin punch) or it can be mounted in a mechanical punch. I've found masonry nails to be perfect stock for making the piercing drift - they're cheap (you WILL need multiples, whether to refine your head design or to replace broken drifts) and the steel holds up well. Some people recommend a trapezoidal head (like a fine slot-head screwdriver), but I found a pointed "bullet" shape to be more effective. Keep water handy while grinding the head - short bursts of grinding interspersed with dips in the water will help keep temper-destroying heat in check.

When setting the wedge rivets, I used a two-hole approach (easily doable with setting tongs/pliers - I just used a scrap block of steel and a flat hammer). The first hole was deeper than the rivet length, while the second was a more shallow bowl (smaller is better, in both cases, as more of the overlap is supported, but it need be at least as wide as the potion of the drift/rivet that will project through the thickness of the ring's overlap). First, the overlap of the ring was pierced, using the drift over the deeper hole. Don't overdo it, here - you want to break through the overlap, but only slightly, otherwise your slit will be too large for a reasonable rivet. A rivet was then pressed into the slit firmly (sometimes they're finicky and decide to fly away, stick to fingers, etc. so make plenty of extras!). The ring is placed back over the deep hole and the back is struck lightly with a flat-faced hammer (or the tongs are squeezed), seating the wedge firmly in the slit and leaving the back side (currently facing up) flush. The process is then repeated over the shallow bowl, which peens the now protruding tip of the wedge into a nice dome.

A bit long-winded, but hopefully helpful.
Feb 19, 2011. 11:26 AMseabee890 says:
If you can find a bar with a slot in it, or grind one into the bar that you want to use. you can use a dremel tool to cut a bunch of rings faster. I undrstand wanting to do this some- what old-school (can't remember where to put the damn dashes) however, the sheer volume of rings needed to complete any project might turn some people to the amazing art of mail working, good luck i am looking forward to see what readers create. ( and you also)
Jan 18, 2011. 11:57 PMGrolm says:
I am brand new to making chain mail and would very much like to specialize in making riveted mail, so I was wondering if you would be able to point me in the way of a sort of starter kit? My hopes are to eventually be able to make a leather/chain mail set of armor for the local Faire.
Jan 20, 2011. 4:15 PMRozarius says:
The only starter kit I'm aware of is a German made one that runs about 100 euros plus shipping, so it's pretty damn pricey. I your interested I can try and find the URL for the site though.
I would honestly have to recommend asking some questions on the maille artisans forums, and maybe the riveted maille group on yahoo groups and see what other people are using for their set ups.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rivetedmaille/
http://www.mailleartisans.org/

I'm assuming you're thinking about making rings from scratch and so on, I'd personally recommend against that, start to finish it takes me about 2 minutes per ring, which isn't much, until you factor in that there is 20 or 30 thousand rings in a shirt, then you start to go a little crazy. Instead I'd consider looking into bulk ready to rivet rings from India or maybe an appropriately sized circlip then either making or buying a pair of rivet setting tongs.
Jan 20, 2011. 10:46 PMGrolm says:
Awesome thanks for the help i'll definitely start looking into it. ^^
Nov 10, 2010. 10:26 PMBlacklance says:
AWESOME! What material was the "rivet wire" made out of though? Steel or something softer?
Nov 12, 2010. 3:46 AMwebenmopher says:
i use annealed tie wire. its easy to set.
Oct 1, 2010. 7:34 AMAklash, The hunchback says:
for setting rivets, would a pair of modified vice-grips work? everything i have tried has not worked
Oct 1, 2010. 12:52 PMAklash, The hunchback says:
I will, I already tried modifying a pair of linesman pliers but that didn't work out too well
Sep 30, 2010. 2:06 PMGreasetattoo says:
Wow...
GREAT stuff.

You must have a lot of patience...
GREAT job!
Sep 20, 2010. 5:39 PMJamesTB13 says:
I would like to know why you're trying to make riveted french mustard?
Sep 21, 2010. 12:59 PMJamesTB13 says:
ohh, good point lol
if they're lead rivets they won't be too crunchy either!!
Aug 29, 2010. 1:31 PMspenfisher12 says:
i have an old wood stove evry winter i heat the house with it that might make me able to heat over 500 rings at once
May 21, 2010. 5:41 AMAklash, The hunchback says:
I found that a great way to flatten the rings is with a wheel weight from a car and an 8 pound sledgehammer, it flattens 'em real good
May 21, 2010. 5:43 AMAklash, The hunchback says:
 Also, the way I put holes in it is actually cheaper then with a punch, i use a scratch awl and a ball pean hammer
May 28, 2010. 5:38 AMAklash, The hunchback says:
 I've been just using the weight, and I need to come up with a better surface to use when piercing them because it is not nice to either the awl or the weight, but otherwise it works great
Apr 6, 2010. 4:43 PMnaruto the ninja13 says:
Could you use these to make japanese 6-1 or 12-2 maille?
May 14, 2010. 6:04 AMAklash, The hunchback says:
 I just got an idea, one could make maille using actual keychain split rings, not really any good as armor, but it would look cool
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