SPIRAL LED CHANDELIER

 by Dipankar
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INTRO

This is a “SPIRAL LED CHANDELIER” with 240 LED’s working on AC current.

It looks very decent when you switch off all the room lights at night.

Gives a soft light throughout the room and you can use it while watching TV.

Hang it in the Dining room and have a candle light dinner.

This is a sister model of my instructables “LED CHANDELIER” posted earlier.

 
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Step 1: STEP-1

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STEP-1
Take a piece of Mild Steel wire of 1/8 inch diameter and 12 to 14 feet long.

Wind the wire into a spiral with a hook at the top.

This is used as a support for the LED Necklace and the Transformer.

See the Photograph for guidance.
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agis68 says: Sep 11, 2011. 7:32 AM
wow...this is really epic....my wife gonna love it for the dinning room....if I ever have the patience to make something like this....
TOCO says: May 16, 2011. 5:50 PM
This thing is epic. But I dont think my parents would let me put this up anywhere if I built it. Well, my mom was looking for a new lighting fixture for our dining room. Nah, she still wouldnt.
Dipankar (author) in reply to TOCOMay 17, 2011. 4:06 PM
Hi TOCO,
Tell your parents that this is a VERY SAFE Project as it runs on only 12 volts.
Getting Shocked Dose not arise.
TOCO in reply to DipankarMay 18, 2011. 6:22 PM
Oh, Im not worried about that. I just dont know where to put it if I built it. I have worked on plenty of dangerous things before. I dont have anywhere close to an outlet either. for some reason my house has a lack of electrical outlets by my standards. Im sure that it probably has more than most houses.
siddhanth says: Mar 17, 2010. 1:22 AM
 yaar deepankar how have you joined the leds in zigzag motion?

kucch aur use kiya hain kya uske saath or bas directly 2 leds ko unke connectors ko ek saath solder kar dia hain?

chandelier accha hain.. but din me utna hi bhadda hain :) well how uses it during the day anyways.. accha project hain.. will be making soon as i finish up with my aieee... but usme ill put alternate color leds :)
Dipankar (author) in reply to siddhanthMar 18, 2010. 9:24 PM
Step 3 ka photo dekho,
Hum ne perforated hardboard ka use keya hai jo LED ka support deiya hai soldering ke leya.
LED ko hole me dal do, phir uska legs ko bend karo aur solder karo.
handyman333 in reply to DipankarSep 24, 2010. 1:05 PM
haaaa haaaa haaaaa
L..D ko hole me dal do, phir uska legs ko bend karo aur solder karo.
lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Dipankar (author) in reply to handyman333Sep 24, 2010. 4:24 PM
Hole mein dalna is very easy nahain?
siddhanth in reply to DipankarMar 18, 2010. 11:07 PM
 samajh gaya.. accha hain.. dhanyawaad.. sab log spanish etc me baat kar rahe the.. toh maine socha kyoun na main bi apni matra bhasha ka prayog karu idhar :-)
Dipankar (author) in reply to siddhanthMar 19, 2010. 4:27 PM
Tum ne bedi samajdari ke baat ke.
Main Bangla, Hindi aur Oriya ma bhe baat kar sakta huin.
siddhanth in reply to DipankarMar 19, 2010. 10:16 PM
 aami o baangla bujhte paari :-) aami aulpo aulpo kore bolte o pari..
Dipankar (author) in reply to siddhanthMar 20, 2010. 4:15 PM
WELL DONE.
daleme1 says: Jun 11, 2010. 3:08 AM
Nice project and just keep having fun.
tantai says: Nov 30, 2009. 10:45 PM
nice spiral...

but i am not understand in step-2
1.4 come from ?

“....16 volts transformer without load shows 18 volts output.

So 18 x 1.4 =25.2volts...“



Dipankar (author) in reply to tantaiDec 1, 2009. 3:31 PM
See my answer to maxwelltub where I have explained  the 1.4 puzzle.
DAG1030 says: Nov 30, 2009. 10:29 AM
 Fantastic project! I am going to make something similar with my own flair! One question...Have you considered using a capacitor for current limiting and omitting the transformer? Put enough LED's in series to divide up the voltage. This could add to your creative possibilities.
Dipankar (author) in reply to DAG1030Nov 30, 2009. 7:47 PM
Dear DAG 1030,
Capacitor will not work on AC and I want it to work on AC.
DAG1030 in reply to DipankarDec 1, 2009. 4:43 AM
Try looking up capacitive reactance. In an AC circuit, capacitors and inductors will limit current. You can then divide your voltage between the LEDs to an acceptable level.

An excellent tutorial: http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_4/2.html
Dipankar (author) in reply to DAG1030Dec 1, 2009. 3:28 PM
Dear DAG1030,
Thank you for the link, will go through it.
electrosam says: Nov 29, 2009. 9:35 PM
Well you should say " Conduction Proof" not Insulation Proof.
Dipankar (author) in reply to electrosamNov 30, 2009. 7:59 PM
Thanks for the correction.
English is not my mother toungue, mistakes are bound to happen.
drzcyy says: Nov 28, 2009. 5:07 PM
LEDs have an inherent death-wish. They are supposed to be connected to a FIXED-CURRENT circuit, not a fixed-voltage circuit.  What happens is, in a fixed-voltage circuit, the LED will produce some heat when lighted. When its temperature increases, the LED's internal resistance will reduce, therefore the current (ampere) will increase. (remember this simple formula?:voltage=current x resistance). When the current increases, the temperature will increase more, reducing the internal resistance further, therefore increasing the current further. And so forth.
So, what you will see is, when you switch on your circuit, all will be fine at first. After a while, the LEDs will burn brighter. Further on, your white LEDs will change color, usually yellow, or greenish. And if you still dont switch it off, it will burn out very soon.
With all due respect, sir, what you need are "LED drivers", which are actually circuits which produces fixed currents, therefore eliminating excessive current in your LED circuits. You can actually build these "LED drivers" yourself. Maybe write an instructable on it? :)
Thank you, Good instructable anyway!
Dipankar (author) in reply to drzcyyNov 29, 2009. 3:38 AM
Hi drzcyy,
Please read my answer to verence's comments and you will know the theory behind this Instructable.
drzcyy in reply to DipankarNov 30, 2009. 12:51 PM
Yes, I fully understand your theory. Basically, you are merely halving the current by utilising an alternating current, and the the diode properties of the LED, ie one cycle of the alternating current drives this line of LEDs, then the other cycle drives the other line of LEDs.
And yes, you are right, halving the current, halves the heat production. But that doesnt mean that the temperature doesnt increase. And when an LED heats up, it draws more current, therefore heating it up further. Maybe a good heatsink will alleviate this problem. Or an inclusion of a capacitor in your circuit will cap off the voltage peaks found in the AC.
Take a look at this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED_power_sources
under the topic "Power Sources".
There's a topic on "Lighting LEDs on mains" too. Good day.
Dipankar (author) in reply to drzcyyNov 30, 2009. 7:56 PM
Dear drzcyy,
I like to do things differently which is hard for the learned people to digest, but if it works for a long time without any problem then my work is sucessful though it may not be what the BOOK says.
I have read all about LED;s in Wikipedia. Thanks for the link.
I had posted my LED chandelier about a year back with the same circuit and to this day it is working very nicely without any LED blowing off, so I made this on the same principal and circuit in a bigger scale.
Maybe my methods is unorthodox but I can garentee you that it woirks perfectly.
texasclodhopper says: Nov 27, 2009. 8:55 AM
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Dipankar (author) in reply to texasclodhopperNov 28, 2009. 3:39 PM

Sorry texasclodhopper,
NO my polarities are not screwed up.
I am not an engineer and know nothing of SCHEMATIC drawing but I have tried to explain this with another diagram in step 2.
All the LED's are interconnected in the middle.
Both the Rows of +8 and-8 are opposite to one another.
As AC current flows in both directions alternatively so all the LED's are not glowing at the same time but alternately.
Hope you understand my point.
texasclodhopper in reply to DipankarNov 28, 2009. 7:58 PM
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Dipankar (author) in reply to texasclodhopperNov 29, 2009. 3:37 AM
Hi texasclodhopper,
Please read my answer to verence's comments and you will know the theory behind this Instructable.
texasclodhopper in reply to DipankarNov 29, 2009. 5:47 AM
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Dipankar (author) in reply to texasclodhopperNov 29, 2009. 4:09 PM
Dear texasclodhopper,
I am really very sorry if I have in any way offended you though I did not mean to.
Many people do the same thing in many different ways, but the outcome is important.
I had posted my LED chandelier about a year back with the same circuit and to this day it is working very nicely without any LED blowing off, so I made this on the same principal and circuit in a bigger scale.
Maybe my methods is unorthodox but I can garentee you that it woirks perfectly.
This design was inspired by my friend qs who has posted many such Instructable in this site, before making any judgement I request you to go through them.
THANKS.
ghoru says: Nov 28, 2009. 1:43 AM
 perhaps wrapping ricepaper around the whole thing like a paper lantern could be a good way of hiding the transformer etc as i think during the day it looks somewhat unfinished.
merely a suggestion
Dipankar (author) in reply to ghoruNov 28, 2009. 3:41 PM
Could do that but the light will get dim.
wozlaser says: Nov 27, 2009. 11:29 AM
This would look rad with a semi-transparent t-shirt on it.
KoenB says: Nov 27, 2009. 4:32 AM
looks sweet when turned on in the dark but a bit dodgy during the day. Maybe you could try covering up the wiring a bit more.
unibomb bk says: Nov 25, 2009. 9:53 AM
this was pretty cool. i might keep it as a project idea. but its true that its more professional to do parallel n safer. but a great project.  
mdog93 says: Nov 24, 2009. 10:07 AM
how come you only drew the red (+) wire going to the first led, surely both need to be connected to the first led in the circuit.

Is there something I don't know or what?
rogueleadr in reply to mdog93Nov 24, 2009. 3:00 PM
dude these are wired so 8 LED's act as one "light bulb". So the black wire going into the last negative end feeds into the first as well. So these are groups of 8 LEDs wired in series and the 15 groups of 8 are wired in parallel.
Dipankar (author) in reply to rogueleadrNov 25, 2009. 4:01 AM
Groups of 8+8=16 -------(+8 & -8 )
16 LED one set
16 x 15 sets
= 240 LED's.
15 sets connected in parallel.
RIGHT.
mdog93 in reply to DipankarNov 25, 2009. 9:45 AM
k, i think i know, i don't fullt know what you are referring to at times, but i get the series thing, just doesn't lok like it's wired in series cus its no layed out how i imagine it to be in a circuit diagram
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