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People that claim they can do it are just lucky once in a while. I say test a hole with a pin gauge; you'll find its cutting large.
You don't need two sides to the bit to make the bit cut. If you have a bit with two flutes, the bit will cut twice as fast as a singe flute bit.
Upon close examination, a two-flute bit will cut a triangular shaped hole! (trochoidial shaped). If you want the hole round, drill it 1/64" under and ream it out. If you need to thread the hole, you can skip the ream.
it's 1/8"...i use it for my rotary tool and i only can get new once from abroad
it's 1/8"...i use it for my rotary tool and i only can get new once from abroad
I have inherited three drill bits made by the Union Twist Drill Co. a No. 8,
No. 6; and No. 9 They need sharpened, and I have yet to find any one who can sharpen these or tell me how to . the interesting thing about these bits is they each have three cutting edges. yes three. there is a pencil point surrounded by three flutes. Help.
3-01-2012
I should not complain, father being a carpenter, drilled, into me what a drill was.
you and i are same age , different backgrounds. Good Work.
Ron
That reminds me of something my mother drilled into us. She was a registered nurse. My brothers and I were the only kids in our one-room elementary school who could tie a tourniquet. Further, if at age 5 or so, multiple people needed one, we were to write TQ on their foreheads in lipstick so we would know to come back and release the tourniquet periodically so that the tissue beyond the tie point would not die. I do not know where we were to find tourniquets or lipstick, and I do not know that anyone would ask a 5 year old to handle such things, but we were trained and ready.
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Raising the contact point well above the grinder shaft avoids this problem.
Thanks!
Just wondered why in step 12 the tip appears to be dragged across the grinder face before starting the wheel and then swung back. Would it be better to swing to the left, start the wheel and then swing to the right?
If a bit is going to be drilling hard material, you will want the end to be more flat so it won't dig in and dull fast, and you will ALWAYS want to center punch your mark to prevent a drill from 'walking'. The 59° angle used on most sharpeners is a standard angle for mild steel - for softer materials make the point more like a pencil but be careful of how much more pointed you make it, it could try to screw itself into the wood, plastic or whatever you're drilling. I guess my point is to go in small steps until you know what works for you!
Try starting with a large bit if you aren't familiar with the procedure and remember that if the steel gets hot enough to turn black at the cutting edge, you have just removed the carbon from the edge and it will dull VERY soon. You must grind the metal slowly and dip in water or some other coolant frequently so as to prevent that. Get a new bit to look at after you have tried your hand on a big one and see what the difference is, there should be very little. When thinning the web, remember that the thinner the web, yes, the easier it will penetrate the work, but also the easier it can grab and split the drill down the center making the drill bit trash immediately. If the sides (lands) are worn on the drill bit, it WILL grab and break off many times when you need it most - inspect drills before using them to keep from ruining your project... After grinding, hold the bit up with a bright background behind it and with the cutting edges going left and right from your body - you need to make sure that both the tips are the same height and that the point is in the center before you attempt to thin the web if it is needed. If there is a pilot hole with a greater diameter than the thickness of the web, no thinning will be required.
Whne grinding by hand, always hold the cutting lip level against the wheel at the center height of the wheel and rotate the drill upwards to make the relief. Grind slowly and don't try it with a wheel that is out of round, you will get hurt badly. Dress the wheel to be true before starting any grinding process. Always use safety glasses or goggles when grinding and if there are any questions, stop what you are doing and research it- SAFETY FIRST!!
The 59 degerees is the angle on one side of the bit to the centerline of the bit, so the 118 degrees that you mention is the same as what I'm doing. The finer the grit you use means that you will have to dip it in water or coolant more frequent but it will give you a better grind as well. I have used a 60 grit wheel and gotten good results, it's just a matter of taking your time and knowing what to do. Practice makes perfect, and then when you think that you've got it, then practice a lot more..... you'll see that there are ways to do the job and make it a lot faster and still not burn the bit! If you never have made the metal black or blue at some point during sharpening the first hundred bits, you have not really tried like you should. Know when it will turn blue and stop short of that. Small bits will turn blue a lot faster than larger ones due to the mass that will have to be heated from friction to cause it to turn color and burn the carbon out...
This is not something that you can pick up in a few days, maybe not in a year. I have sharpened bits for over 25 years (daily) to do as well as I do. The first thing that someone needs to do when attempting to sharpen by hand is to really study drill point geometry closely. Understand all the parts of the drill and what their specific function is and why it is needed to be the way that it is. Once you understand all this, you must try a few thousand bits before you get it close enough to perform well for your application consistently.
One point to remember is that the angle of the point must be reasonably close to what is recommended for the application that you are going to use it for. the more pointed it is, the more it will tend to pull itself into the material being drilled, so that material must be soft enough not to split the drill down the web. The harder materials will be better served drilling with a much less point on the drill - almost a square end. The relief behind the cuting edge has a bearing also - hard materials need to have a relatively low relief (.001 to .003") and softer materials like wood should have a more pronounced relief(.010 to .020"). If a material is not drilling fast enough, it is probably due to the web being too thick and must be thinned OR the relief is way too shallow. Be careful to closely inspect the lands for drilling materials like bronze, this material tends to wear out the lands and the drill will grab and split the drill down the web and break off in the hole - not a pleasant task to remove. It takes some homework to fully understand drill bits even though they are as common as they are.
[note: with this method, it is even possible to restore some life to other rotary tool bits, though i would use them for roughing work]
One tip on drilling large hole, if using a pilot drill, use a small diameter drill compared to the diameter of the finished hole. The the pilot drill should not be smaller than the thickness of the larger drill's web.
Thanks for your comments.
What amazed me was how many production "machinists" had no concept of a properly ground tool. I don't know how many times I tried explaining cutting tool rake and clearance angles.
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Thank you. As you can see from the various comments, some people really like the Drill Doctor system. Others very much like sharpening by hand. I have always been pleased with the sharpening jig I demonstrated in the Instructable. I am just a guy with a home workshop and it does well for me. If you have many dull bits in all sizes you can have fun making gifts of sharp drill bit sets to friends.
Someday I will have to revisit this hack and make a pivoting table for it. I'm seeing a little piece of angle iron that pivots around a hole in it and a locking bolt through it going to another plate.
But with the grinds perpendicular to the cutting lip then the edge is less prone to chip. Bits seems to come out sharper to me too. I don't know, all I know is I like it better this way. Fool around with it some and see what you think.
The only thing I would add to your excellent tutorial is that different metals actually need different angles to be ground onto the cutting edges of the drill bits. A bit that will cut steel is not so good for brass or copper, for example. I don't know if the sharpener takes this into account?
Take care.
Kevan
Actually, the only reason it is still in the box is because my drill bench is not very god surface wise. I need to reface it to make sure the grinder is sitting perfectly level all round. My bench drill is the only truly flat spot on the whole bench. I just got too carried away in making my other main workbench. Actually, it's a shame I didn't document that as it would have made a fantastic 'ible'. The bench is strong and would easily take the weight of about 3 or possibly even 4 big V8 engines. Yet, it is still light in weight (relatively) and made easily of wood. Anyway, this is going way off the subject of your excellent ible so I apologise.
Take care.
Kevan
Shop Teacher, Machinist, and rising YouTube star Tubalcain has a few good videos. I'll warn you, he doesn't much care for your kind of sharpener.
I do my 1/2" and larger freehand again thanks to that video.
About a year ago, I had some long shank drill bits (~$15 each) that I needed to sharpen, and I broke down and bought the DrillDoctor. I'll Nth the fact that it works well, keeps them sharp, and lets me quickly resharpen if needed.
If you think you'll buy at least 33 twist drills in the next 10 years, I say the Drill Doctor is worth it, Doubly so as I don't have a grinding wheel around to use with your style of fixture yet
It is a gauge fixed at 59 degrees with 32nd increments to aid you in finding center. If you want to take a look google "Starrett 22c". It does have two down sides.... the first I already mentioned it is fixed at 59 degrees the second con would be that its bare steel and will oxidize just from your finger prints unless you keep it lubricated...
I personally say sharpen your bits free hand. I only say that because I need to sharpen bits at different degrees and change the lip relief depending on the scenario. I have yet to find one tool or gauge that allows me to do it all...
Just make sure your abrasive is smooth. No less then an 80 grit equivalent. After all the factory uses a diamond wheel.
I have more to say but I'm already rambling
I generally have not had difficulty using the jig, once I got the overhang right. But, I recently lent it to a friend and began to demonstrate it for him. I was having problems with some sizes, but not with others. I tweaked the overhang and the distance from the grinding wheel. His set up was not ideal, but eventually we got reasonable results.
After posting my Instructable I happened to see some notes I made years ago about using the jig. I believe the notes applied mostly to smaller sizes (between 1/4 and 1/8 inch). I was finding I could not reduce the overhang enough to get the results I wanted. What I did to compensate was to rotate the bit clockwise a little so that there was a small gap between the cutting edge and the adjustable lip stop on the jig against which the cutting edge would normally rest. I think I eyeballed the gap back when I made the notes. Now I think I would use a feeler gauge for consistency when flipping the bit half of a turn to do the other side.
I have never tried it, but it would be interesting to change the angle of the jig to the grinding wheel so that it no longer sits at the recommended 90 degrees to the face of the grinding wheel. Rather, the base that attaches to the table would be ten or so degrees less than 90 degrees to the grinding face. I have not tried it, but am thinking it might help.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jUvRnyQHzw
sharpen up to 1/2 inch bit and it costs 6.95!
Works awesome cheap. There is also a video on youtube. I love mine!