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Slime Your Presta Valve Bicycle Tubes

Slime Your Presta Valve Bicycle Tubes
Puncture vine (tribulus terrestris), also known as goat head thorns (The photo is from Google Images), is a big problem for bicyclists in several parts of the United States and also in a number of other parts of the world. It is certainly a problem in southwestern Idaho where I live. Even if there are no puncture vine plants in your immediate neighborhood, the thorns tend to blow into places where they did not grow. They have a knack for finding your bicycle tires. They are 100 percent effective at causing your tires to go flat.


 
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Step 1Slime

Slime
I have decided a sealant additive is my best choice. I use Slime, which is a brand trademark. My bicycle tubes use Presta valves, which are thinner than the more common Shrader valves found also on all automobile tires. It is easy to remove the valve core from a Shrader valve, add Slime to the tube, and replace the valve core. Presta valves have their broadest part inside the stem so that it is impossible to remove the core from the tube. 

Another Instructable slit the tube with a knife, inserted the Slime through the slit, and added a tire patch. The problem with that approach is that the least amount of Slime on the surface of the tube makes it impossible for a tire patch to stick. This Instructable will show you how to drop the valve core inside the tube and put it back in place after adding Slime to the tube. In the interest of disclosure, this basic procedure is described on the Slime website. I have illustrated it here with some things I learned by experience.

Slime coats the inside of your tire tube as your wheels roll. When there is a leak, the air moving through the leak draws some of the Slime into the hole and tiny shreds of rubber plug the hole. A tube with Slime added can last a very long time after a leak developed and sealed, even at pressures of 100 pounds per square inch.
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Mar 16, 2012. 3:10 PMzomfibame says:
ahhh, Sand Spurs, when I was a kid we moved to the South Carolina coast from up north... those things are miserable. bike tires would get destroyed within a few days..... then we discovered inner-tubes made of a dense foam-rubber. they were great, but they did weigh a good bit more than regular tires..... does the green foam make the bike noticeably heavier?
Jun 11, 2011. 6:39 PMiminthebathroom says:
Wow, that thorn looks evil! We have nasty things up here like devils club and the like, but that is more or less stationary. nasty
Sep 1, 2011. 1:50 PMgumby_kevbo says:
The thorn in the picture we would call a "sand burr" in New Mexico. I have pulled a ton of them out of the dogs fur and my shoe laces.

Puncture vine is known locally as "Goat head" and the dry burrs bust into chunks with two spines each that really do look like a goat's head or a bull's head, which is what we called it in Colorado. The geometry of these is such that one of the two thorns always points straight up when they lay on the pavement.

Slime and Presta valves: It is worth using on 28mm or larger tires. I find that the slime won't seal the higher pressure needed for narrower tires. It will seal for 50mm or so, then break loose and spray for another 10meters, wash, rinse, repeat. Finally when my glasses have enough slime spots on them I will stop and patch it. I have had good luck with it in 28mm tires run at 80psi, so it might eventually keep the air in a narrow tire after enough air leaks out.

The slime does make the holes easy to find! Yes, you need to get it all off or the patch won't stick. I carry alcohol wipes in my tool kit for this purpose, and they are also good for cleaning grit out of road rash, and slime and gnat spots off my glasses.
Aug 5, 2011. 6:17 PMGENIUSMAXX says:
Just a word of warning, the chemicals in the slime will cause the rubber to pull away from the metal in the valve stem (Schrader valve may be different). Giant used slime tubes in most of their bikes a few years ago and they are bad news, maybe a quick fix but trouble down the line. I work as a bicycle mechanic and we make it a habit to change them every time we see them.
Jul 28, 2011. 12:06 PMCatTrampoline says:
There are goat-head thorns all over in North Texas. We tried tire liners and heavy tubes, but Slime is the best. I even had to have the tires on my dog's stroller slimed after rolling through a patch in a park.
Jun 25, 2011. 12:47 PMsdavidson3 says:
ouch the first picture looks painful
Jul 28, 2011. 12:13 PMCatTrampoline says:
There is a tiny hook at the end of each spine, so they stick in and don't shake out. Since they are covered with those spines, you get stabbed when trying to remove them, too. They are murder on a dog's feet.
Jun 26, 2011. 10:37 PMopenidordie says:
Hi.

I have a observation;

why not just buy the tubes that slime offers, that already have slime and are
presta valved. Slime has been offering this for some time now... or maybe
you wanted a challenge... That's it. It is all about the challenge. ;)

Jun 24, 2011. 11:20 AMyaman.cool63 says:
Any bike shop using QBP (Quality Bicycle Products) as a distributor can get QBP's house-brand presta valve tubes which come with removable valve cores, which have wrench flats on the sides so you can access the wider part of the valve stem. I just use pliers to take mine apart, works great! It would be a lot less mess and time lost.
Jun 21, 2011. 9:32 AMajohnson8 says:
tire liners, any good bike store will sell you a set, around $15, no more punctures.
Jun 23, 2011. 6:50 AMajohnson8 says:
I don't have the exact brand name of the ones I have but they look a lot like these:

http://www.spinskins.com/bike-tire-liner-race.html

(mine are orange and black)

You buy the size you need and don't have to cut anything so there would be no rubbing through, I put a set in my slicks years ago and have had no issues what so ever. Before the liners I have punctures all the time.

Hope that helps.
Jun 12, 2011. 9:59 PMpfred2 says:
When a buddy of mine owned a gas station and broke down a flat car tire and found Slime in it he'd put it back together give it back to the customer and tell them that he was sorry but there was nothing he could do for them besides sell them a new tire. In other words if he saw Slime he'd refuse to repair the tire. He did the best tire patching I ever saw too. He'd never just plug a tire. Take away from this what you will but he was a great mechanic and his opinion was less than stellar of the product.

He never described in detail exactly what the problem was but from what I have divined I think the Slime made it impossible for him to get a patch to apply correctly. I could tell by his expression and demeanor that Slime was a touchy subject with him and I never pressed him on it.

Personally I use thorn proof tubes. They're not totally impervious but they work pretty good. Thorn proof tubes do have a couple of downsides like they are so thick they can be hard to mount and they're so heavy they're well, just heavy!

But this is about avoiding flats right?
Jun 13, 2011. 7:07 AMvigothecarpathian says:
I know that automotive slime can destroy a car tire if it is used wrong, and in emergencies, it is almost always used wrong. This might be what you buddy constantly sees, and hates the product for, or at least wants to avoid being blamed for the tire's destruction.

After the automotive slime is put in the tire, the tire needs to be spun at high speeds to use centrifugal force to repair the tire, something done via driving the car. Since most people use slime when they have a tire blowout, they are not in a position to drive on their tire, so they just dump slime in their car. All the slime settles to the bottom of the tire.

What happens then is that there is the tire becomes imbalanced, with a weight on one side of the tire, the tire will never run correctly again. (A car tire is tubeless and wide, the slime will just pool in the bottom of the time). You will feel the car "thump" as you drive. The only way to fix it is to pull the tire completely off the rim and scrape out all the slime by hand.
Jun 13, 2011. 2:32 PMpfred2 says:
Yeah to patch a tire you have to break it down anyways so that wasn't it. But he only had one set price for patching a tire, not a different price for patching a tire someone put Slime in. I guess he figured if he tried to have different prices people would think he was ripping them off. So he just didn't do it. But he still had to take the tire off the car, break it down on the machine, see the Slime, put the tire back on the rim, on the car and get nothing for doing all of that. he'd ask people if they put Slime into their tires but most played, or actually were dumb about it.

He probably even had to clean Slime off his tire machine afterward too. So I understand why it ticked him off.
Jun 13, 2011. 2:38 PMpfred2 says:
I have a Presta to Shraeder adapter for my one bike with Presta stems I wonder if that'd work? Not that I'd ever use Slime but I'm just wondering.
Jun 12, 2011. 9:37 PMjoen says:
I don't know if you have it where you live or not but here in Phoenix we have Bull heads and other sticky things that can give you a flat in a hurry. I found that heavy duty tubes in combination with a plastic thorn shield that goes around the parimiter of the tube between the tube and the tread of the tire can give you excelent protection from flat producing stickers. The ones I used outlasted 3 sets of tires and two bicycles! My bicycle was stolen so they may still be going strong. Check with your bicycle shop about this.
Jun 13, 2011. 8:57 AMjoen says:
I was using heavy duty tubes and liners in dirt bike tires which are about an inch and a half wide or so. If your tires are narrower than that then my idea won't work as well.
Jun 13, 2011. 5:45 AMDr Qui says:
Excellent instructable.

I will pass this on to a few of my racing bike cycling friends who have been wanting to use slime but where not able to because of the presta valves.

In Ireland the problem usually come from the thorns of the blackthorn in late summer when the roadside hedges get cut by flail mowers and the thorns are scattered everywhere, I have Kevlar lined tires on my bike and I still manage to pick up thorns.
Jun 12, 2011. 12:19 PMbengel1 says:
I am a bike mechanic and this brand of slime has never really worked to well on any bike I've used and it actually doesn't last to long. Plus it tends to be heavy and if your tire slips off the bead and blows and flings slime every where. Now that I'm running tubeless I prefer to use Stan's instead. It's easier and, lighter, lasts longer, works better and can be used in tubes or tubeless tires. I'd give it a try.
Jun 12, 2011. 4:20 PMjmpg says:
I've been using this method of puncture protection for several years now. aside from the weight issue.

Originally I was using Presta tubes and slitting the tube then resealing. This was extremely problematic, with several disasters. I blew several tubes in bike storage during hot (Australian)summer days when the tubes got hot and literally exploded slime bike tyre and tube in a huge annoying mess.

 I solved this by converting to schrader valve tubes (requiring drilling of rims to accept the 9mm tube stems). You can avoid this if you use Presta tubes, by using tubes with removable valves (harder to find than this method, but easier to do).

Slime and other generic brands are a different solution to STANS and Stans tubeless products. In my area when commuting Tubeless solutions work well, however the weight of the Slimed tubes is worth while when commuting, as often Tubeless will run out of air pressure before sealing. I prefer to commute with slimed tubes for this reason (more convenient) as i've "collected" twenty Goatheads in 50 metres in one ride (still able to ride the last 5km's home without needing to pump up the tire)

An observation I have made is if you have Goat heads in your area, with kids riding BMX and MTB bikes avoid riding on grass and grassed edge tracks where the kids ride and learn what the flowers look like so you can avoid the plants in spring.

As an aside the Goathead or Caltrope was exported from South Africa in the late 19th century to Australia and South America as cattle food, I can't understand why thought.
Jun 12, 2011. 4:05 PMjmpg says:
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Jun 12, 2011. 5:07 AMkarlpinturr says:
A good, clear explanation, though I'd like to suggest a note be added in step 3, pointing out that the valve core will end up somewhere along the tube and not, as I thought, stay close by.

On that note, if the valve core is steel, would it be worth using a neodymium magnet to hold it closer? Not that I'm suggesting anyone goes out and gets one specifically for this, but it would make the "inch-worming" quicker, I should think.

I don't actually use Presta valves myself, so may be talking a lot of hot air ;-)
Jun 12, 2011. 5:09 AMkarlpinturr says:
Sorry! Just checked Step 3 properly, so you can ignore my first paragraph, above.
Jun 11, 2011. 2:37 PMJayefuu says:
Great 'ible Phil. Made a lot more sense after I googled Slime, what a great product! I hadn't heard of it before. The following sentence added to step one might help clear up confusion:

"As the SLiME treated tube rotates, centrifugal force pushes the sealant to the tread area creating a layer of protection, repairing punctures as they occur or treating existing punctures."
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I miss the days when magazines like Popular Mechanics had all sorts of DIY projects for making and repairing just about everything. I am enjoying posting things I have learned and done since I got my...
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