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Sofa de Pallets (Pallet Sofa)

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Olá pessoal,

Sou usuário do site a bastante tempo, mas este é o meu primeiro post aqui, então se faltarem detalhes ou algo não ficar muito claro, postem suas dúvidas e vou tentar ajudá-los.

AVISO:

Primeiramente gostaria de deixar claro uma coisa: moro no Brasil, e nossa língua é o Português (não Espanhol, nem tampouco Latim). Portanto é nela que vou escrever inicialmente a maioria dos meus projetos, pois assim como a maioria de nós tem que correr atrás de aprender outras línguas quando estamos navegando na internet é justo que todos façam o mesmo. Na pior das hipóteses, usem o tradutor do Google. Esse é o outro lado da globalização...;-)

Como o Instructables é um site internacional (e qual não seria?), vou tentar traduzir os meus projetos para o Inglês assim que possível, mas isso não será prioridade, e como meu inglês não é tão bom assim, qualquer auxílio será muito bem vindo.

Entretanto, fiquem a vontade para tirar suas dúvidas em qualquer língua. Farei o melhor possível pra responder também na língua perguntada.

NOTICE:

First of all; i live in Brazil, and here we speeak Portuguesse (not spanish, nor latin). So, initially my projects will be written in Portugueese, because if most of us need to learn another languages when surfing on the internet, its fair all do the same. In the worst cenario, try use Google Translator. That's the other side of Globalization ;-)

As instructables is an international site (wich doesn't?), i'll try to translate my projects to English as soon as possible, but it will not be a priority, and as my English it's not so good, any help will be apreciated.

However, be confortable to ask your questions in any language. I promess do my best to answer in your language too.

######## UPDATE (11/17/2012) ########:
The text has been fully translated.
Forgive my bad English, I tried to do my best.
Any collaboration and / or correction are welcome.

######## UPDATE (11/18/2012) ########:
Here is a link of my wife's blog
In it you can find home projects, most focused on knitting.
 
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Silver_Kate7 months ago
Thank you..
or : Obrigado

I got this off of google translator.. Hope it means Thank you in Portuguesse like Google said.

Hugs
manfredpw (author)  Silver_Kate1 month ago

Yeap, it means Thank You.
Hugs.

wertey988 months ago
you asked for spelling corrections and i found a few needed in the notice.Portuguese,in the parentheses it should be which,promise not promess, speeak has one e so its speak, and cenario is scenario.and the design is pretty sweet but the fabric is awsome
Keznaa11 months ago
Where do you get pallets from
manfredpw (author)  Keznaa11 months ago
Hi Keznaa,

I bought them from a local reseller that recycle used pallets from industries around my city.

Hugs.
asairutsa1 year ago
Ola! Not bad for your first 'Instructables' project. I like how clear and detailed the photos are. It helps a lot to understand how you did your project. Suggestion for your other projects to come... Try to photograph all angle or sides of your project if possible. For someone who learns by looking at pictures like me, it's very helpful. Gracias.
manfredpw (author)  asairutsa1 year ago
Hi asairusta, sorry for not reply before. I have been busy these days.

Happy your like the project, and tks for your observations about angle of photos. I'm not a good photographer, but will try to make better pictures.

See ya.
blkhawk1 year ago
I enjoyed your project very much and it is now one of my favorites. It is a good idea to translate your projects to English. English is considered a lingua franca or a diplomatic language. Writing your projects in English will allow for more people to benefit from your work. I noticed that you emphasized twice that you speak Portuguese and not Spanish. Many people know that Portuguese is spoken in Brazil, so the mention of this fact is not necessary. Many contributors of Instructable speak languages other than English, and they resort to online translators whenever they publish a project. Although I am a native Spanish speaker, I also speak English. I do not need a translator when I publish my projects but, for those that do not speak English fluently there is the option of internet translators. I hope that this will be the first of many more projects to come!
manfredpw (author)  blkhawk1 year ago
Hi buddy, take a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&v=PePEPZy-1lc

Its part of how world see us. Maybe our fault, i don't know.

Hugs.
It is not the fault of the Brazilian people. In United States many people are either ignorant or hold misconceptions of the people in other countries. Two institutions deserve the blame for this: the American education system and the media. Students in the US perform much poorly compared to students in other countries and we are constantly bombarded in the news with the ugly side of other countries. Only once I saw on TV a program about Brazil and it was a travel show on a public television station that almost nobody watches. This is something that makes anyone feel indignation but the only thing to do is to educate some people whenever the opportunity presents.
manfredpw (author)  blkhawk1 year ago
I agree.
manfredpw (author)  blkhawk1 year ago
Tks buddy, my intention with the "notice" was a "just in case".
But sure i understand the English language importance these days, and as i said i will try to translate it to English when i can.
In the truth, as this is my first instructable i saw lots of details are missing (such as some meassures, a princing list of the used materials...), and i will let to translate after some corrections/complements.
Again, tks a lot for your appretiation of my work, it means a lot to me.
Hugs.
bperán1 year ago
It's a good and cheap proyect. I think people should recycle more, it's cheap and funny by this way.

P.S.: Really people think that in south america everyone speaks in latin? When tourists (lots of them) come to Spain, they think we dress like bullfighter. Sorry if my english isn't good at all.
manfredpw (author)  bperán1 year ago
About your PS, i found something: http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&v=PePEPZy-1lc
manfredpw (author)  bperán1 year ago
Yeap.
I really forgot tu put the costs of this project (promise will put later, ok?), but it was around R$250, (i think its is about $100).

Even with this moster named "internet", some people already think we live in a julgle, surrounded by lots of monkeys and birds jumping over our heads, our capital is Montevideo or Buenos Aires, and Pele is our president, hehe.

If this was true, we brazilians 'd think spanish people are all nice breast woman and bullfighters (and not the amazing people you are), north-american people are all white-fat-ugly (and not the best wood and metal workers i ever see) and russians are all drunks (and does not have such a beautifull culture they have)...
I know people from many countries, and love to study its culture and habits.

Hugs
lburch11 year ago
Good job! You Should promote it as a Green project
manfredpw (author)  lburch11 year ago
Hi iburch1,

I don't know if i understand what you mean.

Is that a instructables feature or sometheng like a contest? Or you tihink i should made the project text, emphasizing this project has a "Green" focus?

Hugs.
Claudia1 year ago
MUITO BOM SEU PROJETO, e é ótimo encontrar as instruções na nossa lingua!
Abçs
manfredpw (author)  Claudia1 year ago
Oi Claudia.

Que bom que gostou.

Abraços.
sofá muito legal
manfredpw (author)  the doctor who1 year ago
Vlw.
Ficou muito confortável tb e estamos usando bastante.
Abraços.
Você tem outras idéias para móveis de paletes?
manfredpw (author)  the doctor who1 year ago
Yes, of course.

I'm usually inspired by Google Images (http://migre.me/bSKVN) as a reference, and will try to do some other pallet projects later (like some shelves...).

By now i need to put here in instructables some other projects i made, its just a matter of time.

Hugs
thank you
Tudo para que tipo de máquina de costura que você usa? porque eu nunca pode encontrar em que trabalha certo, eu seria mão costura-lo.
manfredpw (author)  the doctor who1 year ago
Hi doctor who,

Weel, we used a SINGER sewing machine, model Prêt-à-Porter: http://migre.me/bSKJr

It is a non-professional machine, but did the job quite well (moreover, it was a home-made projetc, no "need" of pro tools).

Hugs.
All of my sewing machines all was brakes needs or thred
Edgar1 year ago
Boa! Foi para o meu Blog de engenhocas:
http://faz-voce-mesmo.blogspot.pt/2012/11/instructables-sofa-de-paletes-stereo.html
manfredpw (author)  Edgar1 year ago
Olá Edgar,

Fico feliz que tenha gostado do projeto, e como ele tem seus devidos direitos autorais protegidos pela licença CC (Creative Commons), citando a fonte e autor (como você já fez) pra mim é suficiente ;-)

Sobre o Kilz, não achei interessante tratar o pallet por 2 motivos:
- Me parece que esse produto químico é muito forte, com componentes que também podem causar câncer, etc. Prefiro não arriscar.
- Os pallets que usei são aqueles mais baratos, e creio no Brasil estes pallets, quando para uso no mercado interno, não sofrem o tratamento químico como os para exportação (ref.: http://www.paleteiro.com.br/content/view/61/79/)

Abraços, e que bom que gostou.
O que eu faço, é pôr a gente interessada a ver os links, e aproveitartem o que quizerem. Também é uma boa ideia para ter tudo no mesmo sítio, para quando eu mesmo preciso... LOL

Nas palletes, uma camada de verniz chega e sobra, mas esse Killz pode servir para quando se recuperam tMáquinas e Bancadas de trabalho e coisas do género, que sabe-se lá onde estiveram...

Um abraço,
Edgar
HandySun1 year ago
Where do you get pallets from? Stores return them to the company they got them from, and they get repaired and redistributed
manfredpw (author)  HandySun1 year ago
Hi HandySun,

I found this pallets on a local reseller: it buy broken or old pallets from industries around the city, restore them and sell again, at a lower price.

Hugs.
antioch1 year ago
Very good but...: Pallets inside house = unhealthy :(
manfredpw (author)  antioch1 year ago
Yes, i agree.
It was a concern when we planned this project, but as this room is sunny and well ventilated, and i will sand and varnish (is that the pronounce), i think the risk of mold (i think is that the word, right?) will be lower.
Hugs.
Oh, no, personally I wouldn't be concerned about mold and such.
The health risk i am referring to is methyl bromide, a toxin applied to most pallets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallet
Skip to "Phytosanitary Compliance"

http://toxipedia.org/display/toxipedia/Methyl+Bromide
More blabla

Unsurprisingly, MB pallets are still widely in use.
In eastern europe, south asia and probably many other countries there's big business refitting discarded {MB} pallets with {HT} stamps.

I think your sofa is too pretty to throw away. Maybe you can get a weather-proof outdoor fabric and use it as garden sofa?
Couldn't you spray Killz on it, then apply whatever varnish, etc.. Killz is supposed to lock in anything creating a barrier. We use it all the time on items that are questionable and never had any issues afterwards.
manfredpw (author)  Glenn™1 year ago
Hi Glenn,

I don't think that a chemical with a Warning and Danger description like Killz (ref.: http://www.kilz.com/primer/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=315214dce5542310VgnVCM100000176310acRCRD#†WARNING!) will be good for helth.

Moreover, as i post above (see user antioch) i used not-treated pallets (they are made with cheap - but not chemical treated - wood).

Tks for replying. Hugs.
I think you are scared by the word 'warning' and not understanding the application and usage process but no harm being overly cautious. I think that ranks right up there with having to put warning labels on plastic bags so people know not to put them over their heads. Either way the sofa looks cool!
I'm glad you will probably die of cancer and without kids (or at least without healthy kids).

Because forcing a plastic bag over your empty, arrogant brain would take too much effort.
; )
So, if the pallet only has HT (heat treatment) its ok?
In most of the times, I guess.
The synthesis of manfredpw's information and mine is clear:
If you want to be on the safe side, use untreated pallets.
It's less likely that anyone would go through the hazzle of removing the stamps entirely since the pallet would lose 3/4 of its former value (in manfredpw's case above).
manfredpw (author)  antioch1 year ago
;-)
manfredpw (author)  antioch1 year ago
Hi antioch.

I made a little research and find that "curiously" pallets sold in Brazil to our own market are not treated with methyl bromide.

Only pallets "made for export" has this treatment, what seems to be a requirement of importing countries.

Moreover, the pallets used are the "cheaper" ones, and certainly not the "for export" ones (they are at least 4 times more the price).

So, no problem with chemicals at all. ;-)

But tanks for the imformation, it will certainly be useful to others.

Hugs
Thanks for that great research you did!
Salve!
Além do bom trabalho, ver o texto em português é muito legal. Como meu inglês também não é muito bom, vou criar coragem e postar alguma coisa em português também.
Um abraço!
manfredpw (author)  Wal Rosario1 year ago
Olá Wal Rosario,

É bastante gratificante postar projetos no Instructables, dada a visibilidade do site e a comunicação com as outras pessoas (além de uma fonte bastante rica em idéias).

Apenas tenha uma mente aberta para perguntas de todos os tipos (inclusive de coisas que não tem a ver necessariamente com o teu projeto em si), e pesquise bastante para saber o que está fazendo.

Se precisar de ajuda, me avise, ok?

Abraços.
Though I wasn't able to read the instructions, through the pictures I was able to understand the 'ible.
The danger of chemicals being in the wood, holds me back to start the project, unfortunately.... :(
manfredpw (author)  ThamarBerber1 year ago
Hi ThamarBeber,

It will be correctly translated latter.

Here in Brazil, only pallets "made for export" has this treatment, what seems to be a requirement of importing countries.

Moreover, the pallets used are the "cheaper" ones, and certainly not the "for export" ones (they are at least 4 times more the price).

So, no problem with chemicals at all. ;-)

Tks for enjoying.

Hugs.
Ah, Thank you for your answer! I will start the project ASAP than.
manfredpw (author)  ThamarBerber1 year ago
Is a pleasure to help you all.

Please share it later with us, ok?

Bye
John Sphar1 year ago
Good instructable, but as I always do, I want to warn anyone who uses pallet wood to be very, very careful. Pallets used to transport chemicals are often subjected to spills from those chemicals and can be impregnated with some very nasty chemicals. If your pallets are not brand new, please make sure you know how you pallets were used, before making furniture out of them.
manfredpw (author)  John Sphar1 year ago
Hi John,

I made a little research and find that "curiously" pallets sold in Brazil to our own market are not treated with methyl bromide, or other powerfull,not-healthy chemicals.

Only pallets "made for export" has this treatment, what seems to be a requirement of importing countries.

Moreover, the pallets used are the "cheaper" ones, and certainly not the "for export" ones (they are at least 4 times more the price).

So, no problem with chemicals at all. ;-)

Hugs.
Glad you checked. I find that here in the US people scavage pallets and they have know idea as to what chemical they could be exposed to. Good luck!
manfredpw (author)  John Sphar1 year ago
Tks.
ClareBS1 year ago
What a great instructable, very clear from the pictures, well done. I don't think pallets are treated in New Zealand. You could use google to translate, it should be good enough.
manfredpw (author)  ClareBS1 year ago
Hi ClareBS,

It will be correctly translated latter.

Only pallets "made for export" has this treatment, what seems to be a requirement of importing countries.

Moreover, the pallets used are the "cheaper" ones, and certainly not the "for export" ones (they are at least 4 times more the price).

So, no problem with chemicals at all. ;-)

Tks for enjoying.

Hugs.
bethmwl1 year ago
LOVE IT! A simple design and I think the pictures are all I need, since I don't understand your language : )
manfredpw (author)  bethmwl1 year ago
Hi bethmwl,

It will be correctly translated later.

Tks for enjoying.

Hugs.
Alour1 year ago
Meus parabéns, também sou brasileiro e mecho um pouco em marcenaria, só não tenho paciência em postar meus trabalhos aqui, muito legal te encontrar, felicidades, e continue em frente, caso possa ajudar de algum modo estou a disposição,
Grande abraço
manfredpw (author)  Alour1 year ago
Obrigado Alour,

Precisando, vou pedir ajuda sim.

Abraços.
rossvdh1 year ago
Hi, wonderful instructable, it's refreshing to see other languages included on this site. I live in South Africa where we have 13 official languages, of which I speak 3. Thank you for a very clear and well photographed instructable. Much appreciated.

PS: Making furniture from recycled pallets is becoming more and more popular here too.
manfredpw (author)  rossvdh1 year ago
You're welcome.
I agree: pallets are a cheap way to build nice projects, specially forniture.
Hugs.
you're brazilian?
manfredpw (author)  benderbrasil1 year ago
Yes, from Joinville City, Santa Catarina state.
Where are you from?
maceió alagoas state
manfredpw (author)  benderbrasil1 year ago
Opa, tamo na área, hehe.
Abraço.
disponha
Patxipt1 year ago
Muito fixe esse sofá! Abraços de Portugal!
manfredpw (author)  Patxipt1 year ago
Obrigado.
Ac7ion1 year ago
Bom projecto, com o aperfeiçoamento dos tradutores online é cada vez menos necessário usar uma internet uni-lingua, como tal fez muito bem em se expressar na sua lingua, quando o projecto é bom chega a toda a gente.
manfredpw (author)  Ac7ion1 year ago
Que bom que gostou, fiz justamente pensando em quem iria ler, e nas dificuldades que poderiam enfrentar.
Quanto a linguagem, concordo contigo.
Abraço.
BeforeTron1 year ago
Thanks for posting... nice project, even nicer sense of humor...
manfredpw (author)  BeforeTron1 year ago
Tks, i really try to do my best here ;-)
wobbler1 year ago
TRANSLATION
Preparation of the pads - Lining Material
cola branca escolar (Tenaz): white school glue (Tenaz)
cantos cortados fora: corners cut off
cola: glue
alfinete para segura a manta no lugar enquanto a cola secava: pin to hold the lining material in place whilst the glue dries

To cover the foam with the lining material, cut the lining large enough to cover the sides of the foam. Cut the corners off as shown in the first picture.

The lining was glued to the foam using white school glue (the good old "Tenaz"), and to secure the lining to the foam while the glue dried, pins were used.

The glue takes to about 15 hours dry: it was necessary to leave it to dry for about a day, However, it's nice to be able to manipulate the lining's cut and positioned to properly cover the foam as the glue dries.
manfredpw (author)  wobbler1 year ago
Well...tks a lot wobber, nice translation. Where are you from? Hugs.
Obrigado. I'm from the UK, but you can thank Google for the translation. I only edited it so the words were (hopefully!) the correct ones whilst changing your instructions as little as possible. It was interesting though as Portuguese obviously phrases things slightly differently sometimes from English.
Divertir-se ;-)
wobbler1 year ago
TRANSLATION
Pallet Sofa finalized - position of puff/footstool
disposicao 1 como extensor da parte menor do assento: first position as an extension pf the lower part of the seat
parte menor do assento: lower part of seat
parte maior do assento; larger part of seat
na estica ...;-) Stretched out ... ;o)

As mentioned at the beginning of this project, the size of the puff took into account the best use of available space in the corner that we chose for the sofa.

Basically, there are 3 ways to use the puff/footstool: to extend the lower part of the seat, to extend the bigger part of the seat, and as a footrest or separate stool.

Grande Instructible. Divertir-se!
wobbler1 year ago
TRANSLATION
Preparation of pads - stitching the cover
We cut the fabric into pieces slightly larger (about 2.5 cm) than the foam so that there was one edge to allow the sewing.

Therefore, for each piece of foam we cut 6 pieces of cover material:

- Total number of pieces for the larger cushion (2 cushions): 4 of 65cm X 115cm, 4 of 115cm X 15cm and 4 of 65cm X 15cm.

- Piece for the smaller footpad cushion(1 pad): 2 of 65cm X 45cm, 2 of 65cm X 15cm and 2 of 45cm X 15cm.

Cut the pieces and join together to make the cover. Seams were made from the reverse/wrong side.

In one of the long sides of each pad was sewn a zipper (the zipper was placed on the long side on the advice of the upholsterer where we bought the foam)

My wife decided to start with the smaller footpad cover in order to correct any potential problems before beginning to sew the larger covers. This proved to be a great strategy since any adjustments and changes were discovered and solved in the smaller piece.

The thread used was a strong upholstery yarn, being a little stronger than ordinary sewing thread. This is the same thread used in the side seams of jeans.
wobbler1 year ago
TRANSLATION
Preparation of pads - Foam and Covers
espuma do puff: foam for puff/footstool
espuma dos assentos: foam for seats
manta j cortada e posicionada para revestir a espuma: lining material cut and positioned to coat the foam
To make the pads, first we went to a professional upholsterer.

We passed the details of the pillows to the upholsterer, but the price was absurdly expensive (500 Reals for the foam only, not counting the cover material and the price of the service)

As my wife has a sewing machine, we decided to purchase the foam and the cover material, and do everything else at home.

The foam chosen (indicated by the store owner) was a kind of "soft" density D-33, 12mm thick.

It was also necessary to buy a few yards of lining material to coat the foam seat before putting on the cover (it has the function of not letting the cover "stick" in the foam, creating a layer to let the cover slide back into place when the person rises, hence leaving the lining wrinkled - that was another hint of the store owner).

As we have other things in the house with Japanese motifs, choose a fabric for the covers called "lonita" with a Japanese motif also in black.
wobbler1 year ago
TRANSLATION
Preparation of wood - 3
sobras desmontadas e cortadas, para fazer o puff: leftovers dismantled and cut to make the puff/footstool
sobras sendo repregadas, para fazer do puff: leftovers being rejoined to make puff/footstool

To make the smaller piece, disassemble the leftovers and saw them down to size (60cm X 40cm). Sand down and plane corners, edges and surface as appropriate.

Note: The size of this was chosen so that this piece could be an extension to any one seat or could be used as a puff/footstool
wobbler1 year ago
TRANSLATION
Preparation of wood - 2
As the pallets were sold without any processing (without sanding, cut only), it was necessary to smooth down some rough surfaces, edges and corners, especially as I have a baby of 2 years at home who I didn't want to be cut or bruised.

Anyone who lives in an apartment knows that is not easy to do any kind of work with wood, but despite the mess I think I did well. ;-)

To eliminate the main corners, I used a planer (which would give me less work than sanding), adjusting the cut to a very small size, about 2 - 3 mm (the idea was to go slowly, since the wood used - eucalyptus - was not good to be worked on).

Later I intend to sand the pallets down to give a more professional finish and to make it less likely to wear out or damage the pads due to sharp edges/pieces of wood.
wobbler1 year ago
TRANSLATION
Preparation of wood - 1
Parte utilizada no assento: part used in seat
Sobra: leftover used to make "wildcard"/footrest

After much searching, I found a local supplier of pallets.

The standard measurements of the pallets used were 110cm X 110cm X 15cm deep.

I bought 4 pallets and asked him to cut them all to 110cm X 60cm.

That way I would have the ideal size of the seats ready, and could use the remaining leftover wood to make the lower part of the couch at 60cm X 40 cm
wobbler1 year ago
TRANSLATION:
The project
Browsing some sites (including here at Instructables), I have always liked the pallet sofa designs.

There are also some great ideas when you search for "sofa pallet" on Google Images (http://migre.me/bJZh0).

I live in a small apartment and thought these would be both comfortable and small enough to allow for changes or modifications to the layout.

So we decided (me and my boss) to make a corner sofa which would be divided into two large pieces (to sit on) of 110cm X 60cm X 15cm and a third smaller piece of 60cm X 40cm X15cm that would serve as a "wildcard" (to put your feet on or to "stretch" one of the sofa seats).

As we did not want the sofa to be too low, we decided to make it double height (with two stacked pallets at each seat). Therefore, the height of the seat would be 30cm = 2*15cm (not counting the height of the seat cushions: add a 12 cm +)

The final measurements were as in the diagram below:
PeckLauros1 year ago
"moro no Brasil, e nossa língua é o Português (não Espanhol, nem tampouco Latim)" kkkkkkk... Gostei. Boa iniciativa!
manfredpw (author)  PeckLauros1 year ago
É que vejo tanto "mimimi, coloca em inglês pq eu não sei usar o Google Tradutor", que quis me prevenir, hehe.
Mas consumo fazer publicação em Inglês em outros sites, aqui também farei, assim que sobrar um tempinho.
Abraço
wire-nut1 year ago
You show what you did very will. I can redo what you did easy. And more need to learn other languages. Like me I now two forms of english, and is english and bad english. Tahnk you for showing
manfredpw (author)  wire-nut1 year ago
You're welcome.
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