Step 11: It's time for solar cooking now!

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With the mirrors inside, I manged to cook a brownie in 45 minutes in early april, in a normal oven it's 30 minutes so this oven a fast cooker!

If you have any questions, don't be afraid to ask!
 
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Karakia says: May 3, 2012. 5:50 PM
Great Instructable guys. I suspect the reason you're getting condensation is because the glass door is at a much lower temperature than the food-induced moist air inside your oven. A couple of ways to reduce the amount of condensation...

1. Double or even triple glaze your door - you were already on this track. Multiple glazing will do two things: It will help keep heat inside the oven and therefore speed-up your cooking. The innermost glazing will attain a much higher temperature and therefore any moisture in the air will struggle to condense on it.

2. Cook your food inside an oven bag; keep the moisture contained :-)

Cheers.
georgep4 says: May 27, 2012. 7:17 AM
I have found that once the glass has been completely covered in condensation the food should almost be done.

On another note. I am looking to build a large solar oven. I was given a large double pained piece of glass from a window. It has a blue tint to it and I am not sure if it is a true tint to block the sun or if it is just a glaze. I can't peel it off.

Do you think it will work?
Karakia says: May 28, 2012. 1:34 AM
Gidday GeorgeP4,

1. Technical Response

From my high school physics days... the 'colour' or 'color' of anything, including your blue-tinted window, is dependent on the wavelength / frequency of light being REFLECTED off it. Your glass appears to be 'blue-tinted' because it's reflecting the blue wavelengths of the white light that is being shone on it.

Your eyes pick up these reflections, and your brain says "that glass is 'blue'". Something that appears to be 'white' is actually reflecting all visible light, and something that appears to be 'black' is actually absorbing all visible light (i.e. NO visible light is being reflected).

In order for a solar oven to work, the glass being used MUST allow infra-red light (aka 'heat') to pass through it and be absorbed by the black box enclosure, which then re-radiates that infra-red light or heat, heating the air inside the box.

infra-red light is near (actually outside of) the red-end of the visible spectrum, whereas blue light is towards the other end of the visible spectrum (remember 'ROY G BIV' for the colours of the rainbow). Therefore, in theory, there is a REASONABLE chance your glass will work.

2. Practical Response

Get a cardboard box and paint the inside of it black. Put the open cardboard box directly behind the blue-tinted glass, just like you were building a solar oven, and put the whole lot outside in direct sunlight. OR, even simpler, place the glass between something that is already black or near black in colour and direct sunlight.

If the blue-tinted glass allows infra-red light or heat to pass through it then your cardboard box enclosure, or your black object, should get warm/hot.

Cheers.
Gael - Tim (author) says: May 28, 2012. 10:09 AM
I'd have to disagree with this. If you see the glass blue, as you said it's because it reflects or reradiates only blue light; the other wavelenghts are absorbed (green and red and most likely infrared). If your pane of glass happened to be red there would be more chances of it NOT absorbing the infrared wavelengths (which are near to the red ones in the spectrum).
I may be wrong here...
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Karakia says: May 28, 2012. 7:45 PM
Gael,

Clearly you were paying attention in Physics. In my (limited) defence, it's been many years since I took Physics classes, although it's coming back to me... :-)

GeorgeP4,

While my general comments about why your eyes / brain perceives an OPAQUE object as being of a particular colour is correct (i.e. due to reflected light), I haven't followed the physics / logic through when it comes to semi-transparent objects such as coloured / tinted glass.

If an object appears blue in colour, then all visible light other than blue light is being absorbed by that object. The blue-coloured light is being reflected off the surface of the object AND, with blue-coloured but otherwise transparent objects, is passing right through the object.

The mistake I made was assuming that with semi-transparent objects, such as tinted-glass, the colours you can't see (i.e. the colours that aren't being reflected) are passing right through the object. As Gael has pointed out, the light you can't see is being ABSORBED (by the tint). Only the colour you can see is being reflected off, or passing right through, the tinted glass.

Therefore, in theory, your blue-tinted glass is likely to be at the wrong end of the (electromagnetic) spectrum and there is a REASONABLE chance your glass will NOT work, in not allowing infra-red light or heat to pass through it...:-(

The above said, given you've already got the glass and it's pretty easy to test, forget 'the theory' and give it a go.

OK, so that's two bum steers from me now!

Cheers.
georgep4 says: May 29, 2012. 5:36 AM
Here is the glass I am talking about. Its about 4'4" x 4'2". I am guessing that its not going to work due to the comments above but I just thought a visual would help with the decision. Thanks for all the input.
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Karakia says: May 29, 2012. 11:12 PM
I'm not a glazier, so I can't tell just by looking at the glass - sorry. Someone more familiar with tinted-glass, such as a glazier, MAY be able to tell you.

I see you're using imperial measurements for your window size, so I assume you're living somewhere in the States. If you're living in an area that sees extreme temperatures (e.g really hot or really cold, or both) then there's a fair chance the glazing is designed to stop heat either entering or leaving your house (which is no good for a solar oven). Tinted-glass for houses is generally designed to reduce glare, keep heat inside or outside the house, and/or keep UV light outside the house (UV light fades curtains, lounge suites etc.).

I'm only using light theory to GUESS what the glass is likely to do, which I originally screwed-up in any event, so go figure. Even if I do know, or think I know, the theory, I usually test to confirm.

It's a relatively simple thing to test so, if it was me, I'd Nike it.

Hope this helps.

Cheers.
Gael - Tim (author) says: May 4, 2012. 9:03 AM
Thanks a lot for the tips, Before advnturing myself into making some double glazing, I'll try the oven bags (great and simple idea by the way). If I ever do make the double glazing, I'll let you know how it worked out for me :-)

Gael
Karakia says: May 4, 2012. 11:30 AM
Sorry to give you a bum steer, but it occurred to me AFTER posting my comment that you can't use an oven bag after all. The bag would expand with all the steam generated from the food and would eventually explode... :-)
Gael - Tim (author) says: May 4, 2012. 6:26 AM
I'm not sure that much steam is generated, I'll still give it a try and let you know
diyer8 says: May 4, 2012. 12:40 AM
+1 for solution 2. => quick and easy!
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