Sponge + Ferric Chloride Method -- Etch PCBs in One Minute!

 by TechShopJim
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In this Instructable, I will show you how to etch a circuit board with about a tablespoon of ferric chloride etching solution and a 2 inch square sponge. You will be amazed as the exposed copper on the PCB disappears before your eyes, and your board is completely etched in a minute or less!

I found a passing mention of this technique of using a sponge with a small amount of ferric chloride on the Pulsar web site, and I was very skeptical that it could possibly work. So naturally, I tried it.

Whenever I have made circuit boards in the past, I did it just like most of us do. I put the ferric chloride into a small tub, dropped the masked circuit board into the solution, and rocked it back and forth for a long time. Even with fresh, strong ferric chloride solution, it would usually take at least 10 minutes for the copper to be removed. As the solution grew weaker, the etch would take longer and longer.

A few months ago, I discovered the 1-part pool acid (muriatic acid) to 2 parts hydrogen peroxide method of etching a circuit board. You will find lots of wonderful Instructables on this method. That method works great, and it made me mad that I spent so much money and effort with ferric chloride over the years when I already had all the chemicals I needed right at home to use this method. The down sides of the acid and hydrogen peroxide solution are that the muriatic acid can cause skin burns and is a little dangerous and damages things that it contacts. Also, I found the etching solution to be quite aggressive which was great for fast etching, but I ended up with severe undercutting and partial obliteration of the traces, and the solution tended to be more corrosive to the resist materials I used, and partially dissolved the mask away during the etch.

This weekend I tried this sponge and ferric chloride method to etch 3 Arduino shield boards I am prototyping for our RFID-enabled member access system at TechShop (TechShop is the 15,000 square foot membership-based DIY workshop with locations in Menlo Park CA, Portland OR and Durham NC). I was so impressed with the success of this technique that I decided to write it up as an Instructable.

The method I will now show you gives you the advantages of all the other methods, and none of the downsides. Specifically:

o You get a fast etch (much faster than either method I know of),
o You use a tablespoon of solution, so disposal problems are eliminated
o A small bottle of ferric chloride will last for hundreds of boards
o No tank or tub is needed, no heating or agitation
o Undercutting is practically non-existent, and the resist stays in place
o There is no need to try to reduce the amount of copper being etched
o The etch is so fast that it is actually exciting to watch and show your friends!

Let's get to it, shall we?
 
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Step 1: What You Will Need

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You don't need a lot of supplies for this Instructable, just the following:

o Ferric chloride (available at Radio Shack, 16 oz bottle for $10, part number 276-1535)
o Sponge (2" x 2" square, cut from any sponge, or paper towel will work too)
o Rubber Gloves (you don't want to stain your hands)
o Copper Circuit Board (one or two sided)
o Cup of water (to drop the etched board into to stop the etching)

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hanlin_y says: May 17, 2013. 10:39 PM
I find that it etches a lot quicker in front of a heat lamp. The warmer it is, the faster it etches and less scrubbing is needed.
justinmcg67 says: Apr 8, 2013. 3:38 PM
I'm going to try this, however I'm not finding any software to use to make or create patterns. I heard of Eagle but something along the lines of an app would be perfect. I try to use tablets for most of my work. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Wonderful Instructable, favorited and ill pass it along to family and friends.
justinmcg67 in reply to justinmcg67Apr 8, 2013. 3:40 PM
Also, I used the pcb board from RadioShack. It does not list any specifications for copper thickness, just the size of the pcb board itself. Is this product going to present problems or in your opinion, would it be sufficient
Mudbud says: Mar 9, 2013. 5:27 PM
Well, I tried it with a sharpie and it was erased.... lol..
sbdash11391 says: Nov 16, 2012. 12:30 PM
nice work sir,,,,i also use the same ferric chloride ...but in powder form....could you point out how much powder will create a solution strong enough to etch copper?? how much powder should i add to i litre of water
TechShopJim (author) in reply to sbdash11391Nov 16, 2012. 2:41 PM
I don;t know...I have never used the ferric chloride powder...only liquid. Sorry!
sbdash11391 in reply to sbdash11391Nov 16, 2012. 12:31 PM
1 liter f water sorry for that typing error
sbdash11391 says: Nov 16, 2012. 12:39 PM
for smaller circuits that are very simple it would be convenient to use a permanent marker available in india for 0.5 us dollars.....for larger ckts one needs to use a ckt outline printed on a photopaper available for 0.13 us dollars .....however the photo paperswork only on inkjet printers..laser printers burn them....be careful...a hand drill as the one shown may be tiring but if you are not in a hurry then it is great to use one ,,,use 0.5 mm 1mm and 1.5 mm drill bits so that they tolerate little bending, wooden board at the bottom is a must unless you want the drill bits to drill your floors, table tops.....this etchant method using sponge for etching is great
TechShopJim (author) in reply to sbdash11391Nov 16, 2012. 2:40 PM
Yes, definitely. I have used various inks in the past with success. Now I use a laser cutter or vinyl cutter to create my resist.
mushroom glue says: Sep 18, 2012. 3:00 AM
would this work for etching brass, too? If so, how thick do you think it could manage?
TechShopJim (author) in reply to mushroom glueSep 18, 2012. 11:33 AM
If it is thin brass, then probably so. If it is thick, then it would take a long time. Check out my other Instructable on electro-etching thick brass plates.
robi_ncc says: Aug 25, 2012. 11:21 PM
Please! Please!! Please!!!

How can I print on copper board? I can not print on copper board. I am stuck on it. Can anyone help me please?

Thanks in advance.
wwbjd says: Aug 17, 2012. 12:05 AM
I did this for the first time this evening. Actually, my first time ever etching a PCB.. and my first layout. Worked great! I had to use a little bit more Ferric Chloride than I thought I'd need (learning as I go) and a bit more pressure, but after the first dab on the sponge, I was good to go.

A 1/2 oz, .032" thick board, 2"x3" took about 2 minutes to etch.

Thanks for the guide!
zawy says: Jul 28, 2012. 3:00 PM
Since the acid reacts with the copper, I don't think this uses less acid than the "sloshing" method, as I think he implies. When the acid is used up, it's usde up. Also, my method of toner transfer isn't so great, so rubbing it is more likely to remove sections. Finally, why not just react it with baking soda and poor down the drain? Our RDA for copper and iron are not zero and I think the chlorine stay bound as a salt (NaCl, i think) after the reaction, so I don't think it's bad for it to go down the drain and end up in sludge that will be sold to farmers for fertilizer, replenishing the metals that crops deplete. If you don't poor it down the drain, then we might not get our RDAs of metals ;). Anyway, we're already 1/2 of the way of finishing off life on the planet (beginning with our great great grandparents, we've cause one of the 6 great extinctions .... and we're not even finished. But we're leaving so much CO2 in the air and turning things warmer and future plants will love us for it if we can stop creating deserts. Anyway, these environmental issues are complex, and irrelevant since solar cells and electrical motors are 700 times mroe efficent than food and muscle....meaning, we'll be irrelevant ourselves soon enough. Don't even get me started on how much smarter per dollar computers are. The assembly line caused the great depression. Computers are causing this one.
mjenkins1 says: Nov 13, 2011. 8:09 AM
Great instructable Jim!

Those of you having trouble, I can explain. Jim is using 1/2 oz copper laminate. If you're using 1 oz, it takes considerably longer. I like using the 1/2 oz copper boards just for this reason - it goes so much quicker. (I've done it with both types of board.)
Zdaddy in reply to mjenkins1Jun 4, 2012. 7:25 PM
Aha! Thats why this didn't work for me like described. I didn't see it disappear before my eyes...I had to scrub and scrub and scrub until I scrubbed away the toner. I didn't pay attention to the oz of the boards I bought...ugh. I'm guessing they are all 1oz because of the way they reacted.

Well, you live and learn. At least I did it! :) I used wax paper and laser printer. Just FYI, that method fattens up your traces. So next time I'm using one of the other proven methods.

Fun stuff though!
triodo says: Aug 28, 2011. 5:31 PM
alguien sabe si este producto de radioshark lo venden en ecuador sur america ?
sudgeist in reply to triodoApr 29, 2012. 10:20 AM
me parece que hay steren en ecuador...ahi lo consigues...
jeff-o says: Feb 16, 2010. 12:34 PM
Any recommendations on a good laser printer?  I've got an old minolta laser printer but it's lousy.
asteidl in reply to jeff-oApr 9, 2012. 7:18 PM
I got a HP LaserJet 2200D that I got for $7 at a thrift store. It's been working for about 6years now. Toner's not all that cheap, but lasts a long time.
TechShopJim (author) in reply to asteidlApr 9, 2012. 10:05 PM

Hi Asteidl...

That's great! I'm going to need to look for a new printer as I have switched to using Macintosh computers about 2 years ago, but the HP 1100 laser printer I have is parallel port, and although I have a wifi print server for it, there aren;t any drivers for the Mac for that printer that I can get to work.

I went to Staples and used the HP multi-purpose printers to make copies of a circuit board image, and I will try to put these samples through the laminator heat roller press to see how well the toner transfers to a PCB board.
TechShopJim (author) in reply to jeff-oFeb 16, 2010. 4:28 PM
Yes.  Look on Craig's List or eBay for an HP 1100.  I paid $25 for mine about 5 years ago.  Toner cartridges are cheap for this unit, and you can get refill bottles on eBay for $5.

I like this printer because it lays down a very thick coat of toner.

Bad thing about this printer is it is parallel port only, and not many computers have those anymore.  So you'll need a wifi or Ethernet print server or a USB adapter of some sort.  At home, we use a wifi parallel print server I bought on eBay so we can all print to it and it works perfectly.  I'm not sure what the modern version of an HP 1100 is that has a USB port.

There is also a program called "LJConfig" that lets you set the toner density and a bunch of other stuff on most HP laser printers.  You can even use it to change the idle display message to something more interesting like "KILL THEM ALL" and then change it back after your coworker sees it and reports it to the boss.  Check out this page on PulsarFX's web site for more laser printer information and a link to the "LJConfig" program: http://bit.ly/aQQ8t6
stephenniall in reply to TechShopJimAug 18, 2012. 3:54 PM
Thanks for the tip about 'LJConfig', I have a HP LaserJet P3005 I've been using to make pcbs, I've been trying the 'Hydrogen Peroxide & Vinegar' Method, (I'm cheap, and ferric chloride is harder to get hold of over here in the uk), But it hasn't been working too well. I've found a decent supplier of ferric Chloride & Hope to use this method later on today. Thanks !
jeff-o in reply to TechShopJimFeb 17, 2010. 11:01 AM
Cool, thanks for the info.  That's good to know about the LJConfig program - a big problem I have with the Minolta is that it doesn't lay down enough toner in some cases.  If this HP (or a different one) can be forced to deposit a thicker trace then maybe that would solve some of the issues I've been having.
williamhaze says: Mar 21, 2012. 6:26 PM
Are there any hazardous fumes produced during this process? I was thinking of doing this for a presentation in class without windows. Thanks!
pro2xy says: Mar 8, 2012. 10:40 AM
Whats that PCB that you are using? its got a nice 'dark' colour to it...
TechShopJim (author) in reply to pro2xyMar 8, 2012. 2:21 PM
Hi Pranavsharma2504...

That was board I purchased from PulsarFX:

http://www.pcbfx.com/main_site/pages/products/rigid_pc_boards.html

They also make a killer dextrin-coated toner transfer paper.

The color might just be the lighting.

Thanks!
pro2xy in reply to TechShopJimMar 9, 2012. 7:09 AM
hey thanks for the link!! :D
I'll check it out. Are you sure its the light though? Its looking quite nice.
TechShopJim (author) in reply to pro2xyMar 9, 2012. 7:10 AM

Hi Pranavsharma2504...

Yes, I'm sure it is either the light or the board is wet, making it appear dark. The board is quite light in color.

Thanks!
Lord_Vek says: Mar 7, 2012. 12:47 PM
I tried it !!! At an 1 oz PCB, with etchant already used twice. Though I already have made a DIY mechanical PCB "rocker" for etching, I gave the sponge method a try. It took me about 10 minutes, (remember, used etchant) for an Arduino sized, one side PCB. What I liked is that I can actually see the copper being eaten little by little. A thought is, If one is patient enough, he can reuse and reuse the etchant, at least for smallish PCBs, very economical. Thanks a lot, my friend, for this instructable.
Barnaby Walters says: Apr 29, 2011. 9:48 AM
Whilst this looks great for most boards, I would not recommend that you use it for boards with permanent marker resist — I just tried, and it wiped some of the marker off! I quickly changed plan and used the tub method.

Regardless, it was my first ever PCB and it's not too bad, I think!
Agent24 in reply to Barnaby WaltersNov 28, 2011. 10:44 PM
Forget the permanent markers, get a proper 'Dalo Pen' for PCB work instead.

I use mine for touching up toner transfer on the occasion there is a hole or some other problem.
Nick_F in reply to Barnaby WaltersMay 19, 2011. 5:13 AM
You could also give a try to a German permanent marker (the red one only!), called Staedtler Lumocolor. They have a few different sizes. An image of these markers can be seen at http://www.jp.staedtler.com/upload/318_2_420_16611.jpg

Regards,
Nicolae
TechShopJim (author) in reply to Nick_FMay 19, 2011. 9:10 AM
I'm going to try your suggestion for the German pens. I just ordered a set from Amazon for $10, and will post here on my findings. Thanks for the suggestion!
TechShopJim (author) in reply to Barnaby WaltersApr 29, 2011. 10:14 AM

Good point! Yes, Sharpie pen will often rub off, even during traditional tank etching.

I've never tried this, but I wonder if a paint pen would work? It might be a little bit too coarse, though.

There is a so a type of pen called a Rapidograph made by Koh-I-Noor (intro video on YouTube at http://youtu.be/xHSIk4Y79BY) that are really amazing and cool pens for drawing VERY detailed drawings. You fill them yourself with any india ink, so if you used a waterproof india ink, I wonder if that would work for resist for PCBs?
Barnaby Walters in reply to TechShopJimApr 29, 2011. 3:02 PM
I have heard that 'lacquer applicator' pens work very well as their ink flows better and is a bit gloopier than the thin permanent marker pens. I was using a sharpie, and found that, whilst the thin end was required for the smaller details, I actually got fantastic results with larger traces using the felt end.

The rapidograph looks interesting — I may have to get hold of one of those.

P.S. My PCB soldered very well — on to testing now :|
cold.geek says: Jul 14, 2009. 3:15 PM
You've just rinsed copper chloride out of the sponge and down the sink, which means you've not eliminated the disposal problem but you've ignored it. The main issue in the disposal problem isn't because of the the large amount of Ferric chloride that doesn't react with the copper, but the small amount of it that does.
Agent24 in reply to cold.geekNov 26, 2011. 3:49 AM
Exactly!

Disposing the etchant in small amounts over a long time is no different than disposing the whole lot at once, it would all still end up down the drain.

Better to collect it all up (whatever way you etch) and take it to a proper disposal place in the end.
dawning in reply to cold.geekJan 10, 2011. 9:05 AM
Indeed and I'd worry that the Ferric Chloride solution isn't fully reacted.. Which, in draining through my pipes, of which some of my plumbing is copper.. well.. yeah... No thanks.

Where I live the local firehall will take whatever chemicals. You just drive them over in an onimous container and they'll add it to a big pile of mysterious things.
naughtyhorse in reply to dawningFeb 3, 2011. 5:31 AM
copper used in drainage?
good lord :-)
all mine's pvc
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