Stop creaky cranks

 by joe
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After a while your cranks will begin to creak, Its inevitable, like the sun rising and people in minivans talking on their cell phones while driving.

If you ride in muddy conditions this might happen even faster

Its fairly easy to stop the creak with about 45 minutes of work.


 
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Step 1: Tools

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You will need:

For Isis/Splined Cranks
10mm allen key
Bottom Bracket Tool Park BBT-24

For Square Taper Cranks
8mm Allen Key or 14mm Socket
Bottom Bracket Tool

For Outboard Bearing Cranks
10mm Allen Key
5mm Allen Key
Park BBT-19Park BBT-19

A Rag
Cleaner, I user OranJ Peels and Bio Cleaner
Grease or Anti Seize

You should also have a torque wrench, I used the Park TW-2
cole.c says: Sep 24, 2011. 2:44 PM
i ride a bmx and there is a squeaky noise coming from my right crank and i have no idea what to do.
Phil B says: Jun 12, 2009. 8:15 AM
I just found this through the randomizer feature. I have square taper cranks on a road bike. I also have a crank puller tool, but the cranks do not come off. I do not really want to loosen the bolts and ride until the cranks break loose. I am thinking of making a special pickle fork to go between the bottom bracket and the crank. I would use the pickle fork while also using the crank puller to add pressure. Some of the leading books on bicycle repair do not mention the problem of cranks that do not release with a crank puller.
sharlston in reply to Phil BOct 25, 2010. 9:41 AM
are the cranks aluminium? if so heat the cranks up and they will expand and come loose
Phil B in reply to sharlstonOct 25, 2010. 10:19 AM
I have already tried heating them, but they still did not come loose. When I really need to get them off I think I will remove the retaining bolts and ride until they fall off. That is a fix of the last resort used by some.
sharlston in reply to Phil BOct 25, 2010. 10:27 AM
do you have a crank puller? them things remove even the most seized of cranks
Phil B in reply to sharlstonOct 25, 2010. 1:51 PM
I do have a crank puller. I have put a lot of leverage on it, but still nothing moved.
sharlston in reply to Phil BOct 25, 2010. 2:30 PM
maybe a mixture of some penetrating oil and more leverage? when you eventually get it off put some anti seize compound on to make easy work of it next time
Phil B in reply to sharlstonOct 26, 2010. 1:49 AM
Someone else suggested penetrating oil. I have not done that yet. If I put still more leverage on my crank removal tool I am afraid the fine threads in the crank will pull out.
sharlston in reply to Phil BOct 26, 2010. 4:36 PM
Ive ran out of ideas then.sorry.
23mcharlotte says: May 18, 2008. 8:41 PM
Nice ible but not everyone rides a mountan bike how bought one where it can help other people who dont have the right tools for the job or dont have those cranks I ride a 20' dirt jumper(eastern, Jane) with profile cranks tripple walled rims and a cane creek headset(yes I like cane creek)with a thick chain and peggs on the right side(I ride street too) so what advice do you offer me?
sharlston in reply to 23mcharlotteOct 25, 2010. 10:29 AM
then you will have 3 piece cranks,use a allen key and dissasemble the whole thing and clean everything and relube and put back together see if that makes a difference.
ax89 says: Nov 27, 2008. 8:00 PM
I definitely would have cleaned my bike first, for the same reasons as the other commenters stated. I have a question - why do you use anti-seize compound instead of grease? (I didn't see if you touched on the reason why when I read through this.)
sharlston in reply to ax89Oct 25, 2010. 9:42 AM
anti seize compound contains copper and other impurities and can stop things seizing better than plain grease
psychicelement says: Nov 29, 2008. 5:07 PM
useful instructables. thanks mate
charlie_r says: Sep 27, 2008. 5:03 AM
I think you are confusing INCH-pounds with FOOT-pounds.

The torque wrench you show in step 10 is not capable of 300 ft-lb. way too short an arm.

The Park Tools torque sheet you link to shows also IN-LB.

If you were to try to put 300 ft-lb torque on your BB, you wouldn't have a BB left to work with. The threads and material will not support that high a torque.
Prometheus says: Aug 8, 2008. 4:38 AM
This project can be easily misinterpreted as a fix for a serious problem. If your 3-piece cranks "creak", this is a sign of loose crankarm bolts. Proper torque for crankarm bolts on a chro-moly spindle and bolt set is about 80-140 ft-lbs. Tighten them immediately or crankarm damage can result. If no amount of tightening will solve the problem, the crankarms are ruined and need to be replaced, as the spindle taper has been irrevocably damaged, making them unusable. You have to be sure that the sound is coming from the spindle and not the pedals themselves, as that is another procedure altogether. A dry or contaminated bottom bracket (the bearings that support the "crankset" including the pedals, crankarms, and spindle) will more commonly squeal or shriek with every revolution. In this case, overhaul of the bottom-bracket bearings is imperative and critical, lest you wish to replace the entire set. Ideally, never remove the "fixed cup" on the bottom-bracket (the non-adjustable side) unless absolutely necessary. All tools for the "fixed-cup" are about a foot long, and 300 lb-ft is quite excessive, 150-175 lb-ft will suffice. Only remove the "fixed-cup" for a specific diagnosis or to replace it, and use an aluminum-based anti-seize compound especially with chro-moly frames. For aluminum frames, use lithium-based grease. In any case, the "fixed-cup" is best left undisturbed to minimize thread wear. To properly adjust BB preload, first assemble without the crankarms, and check for smooth movement. Attach the RH crank with 80 lb-ft of bolt-torque and sling the chain over it, and wiggle laterally trying to detect a "clunk". Tighten by 1/8th turn increments until barely detectable, and then tighten by 1/16th turn at a time until no clunk is felt. Tighten the lockring and check again. The crank should turn freely without any roughness (put your ear to the frame), but also without any binding. Ideal adjustment can get as finicky as 1/64th a turn. The best method is to again remove the crankarm and ensure that the spindle turns without feeling "gritty". Be sure to use a high-grade grease meant for low speeds and high pressures if you are rebuilding them, as BB-shell bearings work the hardest of all bearings on your bike. If your cranks are anything other than "perfectly square" (both cranks are perfectly parallel), you will be replacing either your crank spindle or your entire crankset (likely your crankset because chro-mo spindles rarely twist). Check and retighten crankarm bolts the first time you buy/receive a bike, 2 weeks or 50-75 miles after that, and no less than bi-annually (or every 300 miles) after that to prevent costly damage. All crank bolts or nuts should be accompanied by equally-hard washers at all times, and never use anything mor3e than anti-sieze on crankarm bolt or nut threads. NEVER use motor oil or any "purposeful lubricant". Crank bolts/nuts are commonly a snug 14mm size, the super-cheap ones are measured as 1/2", and you shouldn't even buy those anyway.
Vertigo666 says: May 18, 2008. 8:06 AM
My gears won't change, for some reason. They're stuck at highest and second highest.
joe (author) in reply to Vertigo666May 18, 2008. 8:17 AM
Front or rear? I'll do up an instructable on shifting today.
Vertigo666 in reply to joeMay 18, 2008. 12:50 PM
Both, actually, don't know if this helps but the one on the right moves, not the left.
joe (author) in reply to Vertigo666May 30, 2008. 7:48 AM
Hey Vertigo666 - I just put up and instructable on how to tune your front aka left derailleur here: http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-tune-a-front-derailleur/

-Joe
pacey_waring says: May 19, 2008. 9:28 AM
wow very high quality macro photos. I was impressed.
garr8 says: May 18, 2008. 7:08 PM
It's much better if you wash your bike before doing any mechanical repair, you avoid getting dirt again where you all ready clean, tidy bikes work sweet as...
camb00 says: May 18, 2008. 12:45 PM
Never put too much grease on !!! lol
killerjackalope says: May 17, 2008. 4:57 PM
Nice 'ible, though creek is actually creak, the spellchecker might have missed it because creek is a word. Good job, my cranks are just about ready for a good sorting out, they have a distinct creak, like a ship moving...
joe (author) in reply to killerjackalopeMay 17, 2008. 7:05 PM
Thanks for catching that. -Joe
killerjackalope in reply to joeMay 17, 2008. 7:10 PM
Eh it's an easy one... I do that stuff alot so I see it...
a grain of alt. says: May 17, 2008. 4:09 PM
Much-needed and comprehensive instructable! Before getting Zinn and the Art of Mountain Bike Maintenance" I never knew how to take apart a BB....

Unfortunately, I think I need a new BB entirely to get rid of my creak : (
joe (author) in reply to a grain of alt.May 17, 2008. 7:05 PM
The Zinn book is great! He is a wealth of information, along with his column on Velonews.com
Geordiepom says: May 17, 2008. 6:43 PM
A very timely posting! I've just returned from a very pleasant but slightly creaky Sunday morning ride. Many thanks.
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