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Stop using Ferric Chloride etchant! (A better etching solution.)

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Toss the PCB into the solution and it'll take off.

If this is the first time you're using this batch of solution (and I presume it is), it'll etch super-fast. This small board took only 2 minutes. Yikes!

Since I use a deep container, I tend to swirl it around as it etches. This stuff is so active, though, that I'm not sure it's necessary.

Keep the window open for ventilation because the starter solution gives off a little chlorine gas. (The end-etchant gives off much, much less.)

Also, note how the etchant gets greener over time as it eats away the copper. This is good news.

What's happening is that you're dissolving the copper from the board and turning it into cupric chloride. In the long-run, the cupric chloride will be doing most of the etching (instead of requiring disposal). For now, just watch your solution turn light green. Next time you use it, the color will deepen.

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Feb 22, 2011. 8:25 AMElectricsrb says:
Mine board took 8h to etch. The solution is perfect I swirl the container around, but it's taken me a loooooong time to fully etch it. Am I doing something wrong?
Mar 1, 2012. 10:53 AMdarkwingz24 says:
Hi,

I have been playing around with this etchant as I have used ferric chloride in the past and it stains and is a pain to dispose of (properly). I mix up the Peroxide (3% Drug store version) and Muriatic acid (Dynamic Paint Products, no %info on bottle). The Muriatic acid definitely fumes when you open the bottle so it's strong.

I mix at 2:1 Peroxide to HCL and it etches the first boards just fine (just a couple minutes). The resulting solution is a light green and after a couple boards the colour doesn't change much and it pretty much seems to stop etching. I didn't see if it took 8 hours but after 30 min there was still copper.

I too am trying to figure out what may be going wrong. I tried adding more HCL to the bath and it didn't seem to do anything so I added some peroxide to match the HCL I added but no result (in the 30 min I had the board in). My etchant never gets that dark green/brown I see in your images. Any advice or tips?

Thanks!
Mar 27, 2012. 1:14 PMptrmail says:
be always sure that copper on your board is shiny (does not have an oxidized layer that will protect the copper from etchant)
1. i polish it witch some polishing paste, dont forget edges
2. clean the result with some alcohol or similiar to remove the paste and any smear (fingerprints), this can protect copper from etching away too, best thing is to use gloves from this point. dont touch the copper board with your hands
if it's polished and clean, its ready to be sprayed with photoresist or for hand drawing ...
i do all of this and i dont have problems, i use FeCl3
Mar 8, 2012. 4:01 PMecode says:
I have experienced the exact same thing.  After 24 hours or so it stops etching almost completely.  I believe this is due to all the oxygen leaving the solution.  You might notice that a new batch it will form bubbles as it out-gasses.

To me the plain HCL and peroxide solution seems useless unless you're just going to use it for one day.  It won't last any time at all in this form.  You can't store it in an airtight container because it will explode due to pressure building (a caution many people seem to forget on pages like this).   You can't add more peroxide (or acid) to rejuvenate the solution because you're adding mostly water when  you do this so it just makes things worse each time you do it.  I can't figure out why people think it's so great.  Maybe they're just using it once or I'm doing something horribly wrong.

I think the "end" solution of cupric chloride is the only proper thing that will last.  I'm in the process of trying to make this but it's slow going and difficult to manage.  What I did was use the same 1 part acid to 2 parts peroxide and then immediately start dissolving a specific amount of copper based loosely on the formulas on that other page (Adam's stuff; he doesn't say how to do it with peroxide) with a bubbler in the tank.  After a couple of days I still have a little copper left and my solution is turning brown.  My specific gravity is somewhat low so I'm hoping evaporation will improve that.  Not sure where to go from here.  I don't know what my acid level is so I don't know if I should wait a while longer and hope it greens up with the bubbler or if I should add more acid (that will reduce my specific gravity even more, not desirable).   The hardest part of this seems to be figuring out if you need more oxygen or if the solution is out of acid because you can't tell from the color of the solution alone.   I wish a simple pH test would work for the acid test, the titration procedure seems like a lot of hassle if you don't have lab equipment.
Mar 10, 2012. 6:29 PMvkoudymov says:
I think the trick to etching using this method is to get the copper concentration up. To do so, you need to get the copper to dissolve. Unfortunately, copper is very poor at dissolving in hydrochloric acid. However, if you can get copper oxide, that'll quickly dissolve/react in hydrochloric acid. I've put up an instructable on how to do this. Pictured below is the final product (takes about 30 minutes of prep, 5 hours of wait time).
Mar 11, 2012. 12:18 PMecode says:
Your instructable looks great.  That's definitely the way to go and I will probably use that method to increase my volume and balance my specific gravity.

Just an update on my original solution.  Once all the solid copper was gone it almost immediately turned green.  I added more acid and did the titration test.  I'm currently at 3 M acid (perfect) and specific gravity of 1.2 (too much water from my initial peroxide, for sure).
Jan 11, 2011. 12:10 PMjaydenr says:
Help, my mix just dissolves the copper. My muriatic acid doesn't tell me what percentage the acid solution is, it just says "industrial strength". will this start etching when more copper is dissolved in to it? what can i do?
Jan 26, 2012. 11:37 AMcincodenada says:
"Disolving the copper" is what it's supposed to do...that's what etching is: dissolving the unprotected copper from the board.
Dec 5, 2007. 6:41 PMshaunak says:
Is it OK to drill the holes for the components before etching? I have four 16pin ICs on my board and drilling them later will be a real pain.
Dec 26, 2009. 8:44 PMDavad says:
Yes you can. Industry drills the hole first for making vias. The holes are drilled then the board and the via holes are electroplated before etching.
Dec 27, 2009. 8:26 PMshaunak says:
 Thanks for the insight.
Jan 15, 2010. 4:15 PMLIELOREN says:
 Better etching first, it makes the drilling part way easier.
Mar 3, 2011. 2:33 PMGTechno13 says:
Agreed, drilling can let the echant reach under your resist a bit. I find that the copper circle also helps center the bit.
Oct 5, 2009. 8:20 AMStokes says:
I've found drilling after the etching to be better. In the transfer, I make the holes just tiny dots so I know where to drill. This way, I am sure that the copper completely surrounds the hole -- no crescent moons of bare board on one side or the other.
Dec 8, 2008. 12:47 PMhaptotrope says:
I'm not certain about this specific etchant, but its speed may make it necessary to coat the inside edges of the holes with a resist to keep the acid from eating the board from the side of the hole -- and under the printed resist.
Jul 6, 2010. 12:46 AMLuke Ferg says:
Is the etchant once mixed supposed to be clear? Mine went orange. I used 3% hydrogen Peroxide and 30% hydrochloric acid. It still etched the board but it took much longer than 2 minutes for my board which was a little larger than yours but I wouldn't have said significantly so. It probably took about 15 - 20 minutes for the first batch.
May 8, 2010. 5:12 AMfenderfreek says:
Couldn't you just place a piece of copper wire or something similar in the solution and use that to initially "spike" the mix?
Jan 23, 2010. 9:54 PMZiggy931 says:
Where can I get a PCB like that?
 
Feb 1, 2010. 12:51 PMMinifig666 says:
 In the US, your local (or on-line) Radio Shack should sell them. In the UK, Maplin stocks them. Elsewhere a Google for 'Copper Clad Board' should do the trick. Hope this helps
Sep 12, 2008. 12:17 PMcaptsomer says:
Will this work for etching Aluminum as well?
Oct 6, 2008. 2:15 AMWragie says:
Plain hydrochloric/muriatic acid will easily etch aluminium.
Jul 30, 2008. 1:39 AMchemical says:
While what you have described is a great etchant you are also asking to kill yourself. The chlorine gas that can be produced in sufficent quantity to be fatal,especially if you use peroxide stronger than 3%. Be very careful

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