Stop using Ferric Chloride etchant! (A better etching solution.)

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Once you're done etching, pour the etchant back into your storage bottle, rinse off the board, flux, drill, populate, and solder.

Some final notes here:

1) You can make quite a bit of this stuff very easily, and since you're re-using it, there's no real reason to skimp; put plenty of etchant in your "tank." When you use too little FeCl etchant, for instance, it can get saturated with copper and slow down which can result in long etching times and pitting or undercutting or worse. When I'm etching a board with copper chloride, I'll pour a couple extra inches of solution into the container. It's reusable anyway, and the extra exposure to oxygen just regenerates it. Live large.

2) Don't make too much. As you keep re-using the solution, you're going to need to add a little more acid and a little more peroxide every once in a while. If you've got a 750 milliliter container, start out with less than 500 milliliters of solution. Give yourself some room to grow over time. After all, the main point is to avoid having to dispose the copper in spent etchant.

3) If you've got too much volume of etchant (it will happen eventually) you can evaporate out the extra water by putting it in a shallow (non-metallic) pan or beaker or whatever and letting it sit for a while. This concentrates the copper in solution, giving you a stronger etchant. It'll also re-oxidize some of the copper for you, a bonus. Remember when you're adding the peroxide that you're actually adding 97% water.

4) The linked website suggests that the acid levels in the etchant are not critical as long as there's some acid in solution to do the CuCl2 regeneration. The amount of CuCl2 (vs CuCl) present is easy to diagnose by the color of the solution. Add oxygen to re-green, and add a bit of acid if that's not working. Worst case is that you may have to wait a few more minutes per etch with a sub-optimal bath. This isn't rocket surgery.

5) I do have an aquarium pump ($6 at fish store) that I've used to re-activate my solution. Sometimes I'd leave it on for a few hours while I'm at work if I've been etching a lot. But lately I've been lazy/impatient and tossed in a couple capfuls of peroxide. Both seem to work just fine.

6) The environmental benefit of etching with copper over ferric lies mostly in not having to dispose of the copper that comes off your boards every few times you etch. When and if you do end up with too much copper etchant, please treat it like the hazardous waste that it is -- look into your local hazardous chemical disposal options. There's no getting around the fact that copper salts are (for instance) poisonous to fish even in very dilute concentrations.
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Oct 27, 2011. 12:29 AMTasDev says:
Here I go exhuming an old article but:

Excellent tips, tried it and etched a few boards with very good results and this could be the answer to my problem of now having to get Ferric Chloride (crystal form) by mail order in my locality.

Just one thing someone may be able to clear up for me though.
Adding the peroxide to my HCl which is 280-300g/litre makes the etchant dark brown so there's no way to assess the 'green-ness' of the mix. Tried with 2 different concentrations of standard hardware store acid with the same result but the etchant certainly does its job well so my only way of checking its state would be via specific gravity and ph. No amount of aeration with an air pump and a porous stone makes any difference to the colour or clarity.

Is there iron or some other contaminant in my HCl?
(Both the acid and the 6% peroxide appear perfectly clear & clean prior to mixing)

Also did some sample tests in test tubes with the resulting brown colour starting to develop from just a single drop of peroxide in 10ml of HCl.
Jan 20, 2012. 1:25 AMsilvermoonlyn says:
Mine went a weird rusty brown colour too. It's still working like a charm, but I have to keep checking to see how it's going. It would have been much easier if it was clear though. I might try and get some more hydrogen peroxide from a different source and start over. Can someone please tell me how I should dispose of this solution?
Nov 3, 2011. 9:47 AMrdemar says:
I'd also question the purity of the peroxide... Something is definitely amiss because I tried it for the first time today and the mixture remained water clear at 1 part HCl and two parts H2O2. The initial etch was just wicked fast - I had to clean the copper off a double-sided octagonal G10 copper clad plate for use in a quadcopter build, and it mowed ass on it, was a pleasure to watch. The result was one clean fiberglass plate and a beautiful emerald green solution. NICE. :-)
Nov 3, 2011. 9:40 AMrdemar says:
Wowww this is brilliant! I've been into electronic PCB fabrication since I was a teenager and all these many, many years I've basically had a love/hate relationship with Ferric Chloride. I wish I'd known about this from the start, it's fantastic! THANKS!! :-D
Oct 1, 2011. 8:31 PMblinkyblinky says:
If I add baking soda, it should neutralize...

It might still be poisonous, though.
Feb 12, 2011. 12:05 AMadamazing says:
With respect to storage, can you store the end-stage etchant in a plastic bottle? Or does it have to be glass?
Sep 1, 2007. 1:15 PMZak says:
Acid vapors will destroy metallic and electronic items. Be sure to do the aeration outdoors for that reason.
Oct 14, 2010. 5:00 AMancienthart says:
Not to mention destroying yourself. :)
The author mentioned that he was using "fuming HCl" - that's about as concentrated as you can get, and the fumes are HCl gas. If it redissolves in the liquid on your mucous membranes (eyes, nose, throat), it will form concentrated acid.
I had an incident in the university lab where I accidentally inhaled a _small_ amount of HCl gas from a chemical reaction and had to rinse out my nasal passages. Took 1/2 an hour before the stinging stopped, and the "taste" to disappear. :/
Sep 1, 2010. 9:08 PMSnipeye says:
Disposal - could you not neutralize with baking soda, then dump down the drain?
Oct 14, 2010. 4:36 AMancienthart says:
Hi Snipeye. As the author has stated, the problem isn't the acid. Even in a chemical lab, basic disposal of weak acids is just to wash down the sink with lots of water. (As long as your pipes can handle it).
The issue is the copper - even tiny amounts in water supplies are very poisonous to fish.
Jul 1, 2010. 6:40 PMNaturalCulture says:
Thanks so much for this instructable - I'm a printmaker with no chemistry background and I had read about this method on the web but found it hard to follow and a bit daunting. You've explained it really clearly here - great job!
Feb 8, 2010. 9:36 AMoff_white says:
I have a question involving the rinsing of the board. Essentially, since what you're rinsing off of the board dissolves copper, what is the best way to wash off the board without putting copper piping in danger? Will the resultant chemicals destroy stainless steel sinks like the starting chemicals?

What procedure should be used in washing off the board?
Mar 2, 2010. 12:13 PMBayly13 says:
Off_white, I don't think you have to worry about the copper pipes since copper is not used in drain pipes.  Copper pipes are normally only used as supply pipes.  Your main concern is this stuff getting into the environment.  I hope this is helpful.
May 8, 2010. 2:54 PMsherbang says:
 While copper isn't used for drain pipes anymore.  My house, built in the 70s, _does_ have copper drain pipes, so it is worth paying attention to.
Feb 24, 2010. 5:35 PMklee27x says:
I use an acid bath for prerinsing.It's basically diluted HCl. The board goes into the bath after it's done etching. This removes excess copper and iron ions.

This necessitates that you store a second chemical. But it's worth it if you etch more than once a blue moon, because it serves other purposes, as well. I use it to prep boards and to clean tank/utensils. This further recovers copper ions. Eventually, the bath becomes etchant, itself, and you pour it into your etch tank and make some more.
Feb 22, 2010. 12:41 AMjasen says:
waste liquid is almost certainly bad for copper plumbing.
and may also attack stainless

to make it inert treat it with washing soda.





Feb 1, 2010. 1:02 PMMinifig666 says:
 Would using a Lego air compressor to bubble in the air be a bad idea?
Feb 1, 2010. 1:04 PMMinifig666 says:
 Also would combining this solution with this instructable work?
Feb 21, 2010. 5:58 PMMdob says:
No it would not work.  The solution would dissolve the sponge.
Aug 12, 2009. 3:08 PMevolx10 says:
This is (one of) the same etchant used in recovering gold from PC parts, anyway I have read that with proper use little waste acid will be created, but when it does, its said that: diluting it in a bucket- then adding scrap heatsinks (al) or just some scrap steel from PC cases. This will drop out the metals, when settled- the clear solution can be siphoned off and further diluted and neutralized till its around ph 7. Now that sludge is the metal salts or w/e they are. dry them out and save em till u find a scrap dealer who will take a 5 gal bucket full of metal powder.. Like it has been said Copper II & I Chloride is completely harmful to the entire aquatic ecosystem, algae fish all of it @ as little as 1mg/l.. And i heard it can cause havoc at a waste treatment plant.
May 13, 2009. 3:06 PMdirk_m says:
I'm a Chemistry teacher and had to learn some chemistry from an economist. Didn't expect that! Thanks any way. However, I have a good word of advice for you. The decomposition of hydrogen peroxide is photocatalysed meaning that its rate of decomposition is speeded up by light. If you want to save even more money you should store your excess etchant in a dark bottle in a dark cool place. This step makes you save on the peroxide and also prevents you from diluting the solution.
Jun 8, 2009. 6:55 AMBongmaster says:
i got a couple of clay type mead bottles with cork stoppers.
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i assume that would be good for storage?
Jun 8, 2009. 7:10 AMdirk_m says:
I would rather not put acid in clay. Hydrochloric acid will eat its way quite easily out of the mead bottle. A good storage bottle for this substance would be a used brown wine bottle which you can stopper with the cork. If you intend to place this bottle in a dark place that's enough but if not, you might consider painting the outside of the bottle black.
Jun 9, 2009. 5:35 AMBongmaster says:
thats wat i was afraid of.. thnx for clarifying ;) my current bottle is clear and is stored i the bathroom but its not entirely dark, tho it is out of direct light in a corner. i shall try and cover the bottle with something after adding a little more peroxide to compensate. its been sat for a while but is stil nice and green :3
Jun 9, 2009. 11:08 PMdirk_m says:
It will remain green even if you shine a 1000W lamp on it since the green colour is due to the copper ion in solution. The peroxide will not alter the colour.
Jun 10, 2009. 7:46 AMBongmaster says:
didnt think i would XD just mentioning that it seems ok in that respect ;)
Jun 2, 2009. 4:25 PMiandlacy says:
im 17, and this is exactly what i was thinking through out this whole article. I will definitely use this method...but I'm storing my stuff in a dark dark dark bottle. btw...thats why hydrogen peroxide is purchased in an opaque brown bottle.
Apr 10, 2009. 9:15 PMrteeuwsen says:
Thanks for the article dude. I do heaps of etching at home and your method kick's ### over using Amonium persulphate. Here's the quick mix solution for ppl who cann't be bothered wading through all the other guff. Mixture - 3 shots peroxide 1 shot hydro acid - 2 shots water - Just put in some plastic containers and scale quantities to suit the volume that you need. Stick in a fishtank airator to regen the solution and agetate while etching. In my humble opinion this is a cheaper, more environmentally and faster solution than using persulphate. Well Done!
Oct 21, 2008. 5:32 PMbastardartist says:
digmebird, thnx for the reply. i hope i could attain etch depth sufficient to apply paint on the etched area, and the paint not affected when sanding the s/s surface (embossed area).
Aug 15, 2008. 11:06 PMbastardartist says:
Could anybody please tell me what to use as enchant for stainless steel, instead of copper?
Oct 20, 2008. 6:08 PMdigmebird says:
I use fresh ferric chloride for stainless steel. S/s is very hard to etch compared to copper so use fresh solution. To hasten etching time, heat solution to 40c and constantly agitate the work.
Aug 4, 2008. 2:34 PMkwad says:
I just tried this and it was a complete success. I mixed 50/50 peroxide vs. acid and it etched my board in about 7 minutes. I started by adding a small piece of copper wire to get it going good though. I did my mixing and etching outdoors in an effort to minimize my exposure to any harmful fumes. I did get a small wiff of something funky; I'm thinking it was chlorine? Anyway, I just stayed back for precautions as I know next to nothing about chemistry. Thanks for posting this up!
Mar 18, 2008. 6:32 AMnzc says:
Any idea if the excess solution can be used to electroplate stuff with copper?
Mar 21, 2008. 8:57 AMnzc says:
My extremely naive view on this is "you run a current through it" with copper electrode at the donor end and the objet to be plated at the 'tother. That's certainly how it works with the H2SO4 solution.

I think the problem with the HCL based solution *might* be that you're more likely to evolve chlorine gas and get in trouble that way. Or it might just not give very good results finish-wise, or plating time wise. Or all three. Anyhow, I was hoping someone here might have experience with the technique.

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