Stop using Ferric Chloride etchant! (A better etching solution.)

Stop using Ferric Chloride etchant! (A better etching solution.)
Ferric chloride is a traditional home-use circuit board etchant. It's easy enough to come by, and the Ferric by itself is no big environmental problem. However, once you've etched a board with it, you're left with a solution with a bunch of copper chloride in it. This dissolved copper is an environmental problem, and you can't just pour it down the drain (legally) -- you're supposed to take it to a hazardous waste facility. (For instance: How to Dispose of Ferric Chloride in this FAQ. )

Wouldn't it be nice if there were an etchant that you could re-use indefinitely so that you don't have to worry about disposing of the copper, and that could be made in lifetime supply for like $10.00 with ingredients bought at hardware and drugstores? (And it's prettier too.)

I got seven words for you: Copper Chloride in Aqueous Hydrochloric Acid Solution! (Exclamation point!)

But how're you going to get CCiAHAS? Conveniently enough, by starting out with a simple two-ingredient starter etchant, and doing a bunch of etching.

 
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Step 1Ingredients: The Starter Etchant

Ingredients: The Starter Etchant
For the starter etchant itself, you only need two ingredients: hydrochloric acid and hydrogen peroxide.

(OK, actually three. But the third one's copper. See the chemistry section for an explanation.)

Hydrochloric (muriatic acid, "pool acid", etc.) is available at a hardware store. The acid I got is 31.45% (or 10M) and should run around $5 per gallon. Which is more than you'll ever, ever need.

The peroxide is normal 3% for mouthwash or cleaning cuts, and can be bought at a drug store for $2-3 for a big bottle.

You'll also need a non-metallic container that fits your PCB and two standardized measuring cups.

As long as you're in the hardware store, pick up some acetone if you don't already have some. It's useful for removing the etch resist. (That's for another instructable.)

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Feb 1, 2012. 4:52 PMconmac863 says:
I know this is an old post but I have a question.
I make the solution and put my copper (2X2 inch piece) in and it goes to town. First piece almost had to throw away because it was in there for about 20 minutes and almost etched all the way through. Worked great. I have it in a tupperware type container. Next day I went to etch another piece and nothing.... not even a little bubble. I let it sit for several hours and got the tiniest etch on it. Am I not storing the solution correctly or something?
Thanks and awesome instructable.
Jan 29, 2012. 10:15 AMsarbot says:
Unfortunately, the formula you are using with "pool acid" or technical grade HCL from hardware stores is still quite heavily contaminated with iron.

It's a well known fact in the industry.

Try using lab grade HCL and see if the iron free HCL works as well - - there may be an exchange principle involving iron in the reaction.
Jan 11, 2011. 12:10 PMjaydenr says:
Help, my mix just dissolves the copper. My muriatic acid doesn't tell me what percentage the acid solution is, it just says "industrial strength". will this start etching when more copper is dissolved in to it? what can i do?
Jan 26, 2012. 11:37 AMcincodenada says:
"Disolving the copper" is what it's supposed to do...that's what etching is: dissolving the unprotected copper from the board.
Oct 27, 2011. 12:29 AMTasDev says:
Here I go exhuming an old article but:

Excellent tips, tried it and etched a few boards with very good results and this could be the answer to my problem of now having to get Ferric Chloride (crystal form) by mail order in my locality.

Just one thing someone may be able to clear up for me though.
Adding the peroxide to my HCl which is 280-300g/litre makes the etchant dark brown so there's no way to assess the 'green-ness' of the mix. Tried with 2 different concentrations of standard hardware store acid with the same result but the etchant certainly does its job well so my only way of checking its state would be via specific gravity and ph. No amount of aeration with an air pump and a porous stone makes any difference to the colour or clarity.

Is there iron or some other contaminant in my HCl?
(Both the acid and the 6% peroxide appear perfectly clear & clean prior to mixing)

Also did some sample tests in test tubes with the resulting brown colour starting to develop from just a single drop of peroxide in 10ml of HCl.
Jan 20, 2012. 1:25 AMsilvermoonlyn says:
Mine went a weird rusty brown colour too. It's still working like a charm, but I have to keep checking to see how it's going. It would have been much easier if it was clear though. I might try and get some more hydrogen peroxide from a different source and start over. Can someone please tell me how I should dispose of this solution?
Nov 3, 2011. 9:47 AMrdemar says:
I'd also question the purity of the peroxide... Something is definitely amiss because I tried it for the first time today and the mixture remained water clear at 1 part HCl and two parts H2O2. The initial etch was just wicked fast - I had to clean the copper off a double-sided octagonal G10 copper clad plate for use in a quadcopter build, and it mowed ass on it, was a pleasure to watch. The result was one clean fiberglass plate and a beautiful emerald green solution. NICE. :-)
Nov 30, 2011. 12:58 PMaquietinspiration says:
What can I clean the copper plate with before ironing on my design? I have read that you can clean it with acetone and wipe it down with a paper towel but wouldn't that be dangerous since you may be mixing acetone with hydrochloric acid and peroxide??
Jan 11, 2012. 4:34 PMlee321987 says:
Scotch Brite pads seem to work pretty good (the hard, green ones).
Also, I've read that a very quick dip into etchant cleans it really good. I haven't tried that, but i do know that copper turns pink pretty fast after I put it into etchant (I think pink means it's REALLY clean).
I don't know what would help the toner adhere more though: the extreme clean of an etchant dip, or the added surface area from scuffing....???
Anyway... if you do scuff it, MAKE SURE YOU CLEAN THE LEFTOVER DUST really good!
Jan 3, 2012. 8:54 AMOrngrimm says:
I simply rub it with a fine iron-wool-sponge-thing.
I rub it till it shines really good.

Also I do the same to remove the toner i used to print the layout to the PCB.
Dec 24, 2011. 6:38 AMPranjal Joshi says:
this is quite good than stainy FeCl3...
thanx.. i ll try it
Nov 27, 2011. 10:23 AMmorrison427 says:
You can get the initial reaction to start faster if you use a higher strength H2O2 -- like from the beauty store -- but use only a tiny bit. Otherwise it'll outgas both excess oxygen AND chlorine for a while.

BTDT, got the acid-washed t-shirt.

Jim
Nov 25, 2011. 6:38 AMLectric Wizard says:
That should read " electro-plate other projects"
Nov 25, 2011. 6:37 AMLectric Wizard says:
GREAT IDEA !!! I thought there had to be a simpler way than that used in the other instructable you mentioned. I was wondering if you could use the used solution to copper plate other projects ... that would be real recycling !! Thanks for the Instructable !
Nov 18, 2011. 2:16 PMM2Field says:
To reclaim copper from "spent" solution and make the product disposable, just add excess aluminum. Foil, cans, scrap metal...

The aluminum is sacrificed to aluminum chloride and the copper is precipitated out as pure copper powder. Filter out, rinse clean and dry. Recycle at nearly $4 a pound.

Hey! At least the spent etchant is now disposable.
Nov 16, 2011. 10:09 AMipbobcat says:
I want to etch brass instead of PCBs. Will this technique work with brass as well as copper since it contains zinc, etc.?
Nov 4, 2011. 5:06 AMNinjawulluf says:
Be careful, those exact ingredient are used to make high explosive Acetone peroxide.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone_peroxide
Nov 3, 2011. 9:40 AMrdemar says:
Wowww this is brilliant! I've been into electronic PCB fabrication since I was a teenager and all these many, many years I've basically had a love/hate relationship with Ferric Chloride. I wish I'd known about this from the start, it's fantastic! THANKS!! :-D
Nov 1, 2011. 1:59 PMescalix says:
hi people, i've been reading the article and the comments (seems u know a lot of chemistry) so i think that somebody could help me with my problem please, actually i drop some used ferric chloride over a concrete floor, the floor was never sealed with the expoy resin so i think it may have absorbed it, i didn't notice when it happened so it dry completely and now i don't know how to remove it easily. I've tried with some white vinegar and works well, not at 100%, but requires a lot of work; somebody told about the use of oxalic acid but when i ask for it at the store they tell me that is for cleaning marble so i'm not sure if it will work, any help will be really appreciated, thanks in advance and also i will try to follow this instructable, it's a great option instead of working with ferric chloride.
Oct 25, 2011. 8:42 PMAbbieX says:
So, I've etched a couple of things, and the copper came out of solution and is sitting on the bottom of the etchant tank (plastic tupperware container). I poured the liquid in a jar for later. What do I do with the blue residue in the bottom of the container?? Thanks, great Instructable!
Sep 7, 2011. 5:39 AMwilliebikes says:
Do you think I could use an old fish tank as my container for etching? or too big? or will the solution ruin the seals? thanks
Oct 5, 2011. 12:07 PMventure electronics says:
I used an old plastic peanut butter jar Put a prop from a video card on a small motor then hot glue it through the lid and your in buisness. I have done over 50 boards this way with great success.
Sep 21, 2011. 8:12 AMSparticles says:
FINALLY! I did it!

Almoast 2 months of trying, I have dozens of failed ones laying here but finally I made a pcb that should work.

My times are extremely long!
30 minutes lighting (blacklight)
two hours developing (very strong solution of NaSiO4 (google says I should just dip it in there for a couple of seconds.... no)
And finally 1,5 to 2 hours etching. (for a small board, so not the 2 minutes like this tutorial the concentration was 23% HCL )

Also it etched unevenly , some parts are nice and some parts I had to scrape off copper and in other parts the traces were beginning to etch away...
(next time I will try that printer method)

Don't get me wrong, I'm very pleased that it worked now, but has anyone an Idea what I'm doing wrong?


Oct 5, 2011. 12:05 PMventure electronics says:
This method of etching is the best. What I did was take a small propellor off a video card and put it on a motor. This will stir the solution and you should have at etch in about a half an hour. The etch always turns out evenly for me. I have tried many other methods and this one seems to work the best. The only problem I had was using a shiny paper for the transfer . I did finally find one. (toner method.).
Sep 21, 2011. 8:51 AMSparticles says:
When drilling holes in it, all my copper traces fell off :(
Oct 1, 2011. 8:31 PMblinkyblinky says:
If I add baking soda, it should neutralize...

It might still be poisonous, though.
Sep 20, 2011. 7:20 PM3spds says:
amazing, thank you. be sure you have removed all resist from your board where there are no tracings. when i initially tried this method i was rushed and skimped on exposure time. a nice stark contrast between resist and copper is essential! this method works much, much better than ferric chloride in my experience. plus, it's way easier to check the status simply by shining a light up from underneath! thank you again for posting this- i'll never go back to that foul ochre sludge, except maybe to scare my friends...

cheers,
jm
Sep 6, 2011. 11:08 PMamortenson says:
Any idea how I could turn this into usable copper? Was thinking of cuprous oxide photovoltaic panels. I suppose I would need a process to turn the cupric chloride into cuprous oxide and then deposit it on a base material. I was thinking glass.
Sep 6, 2011. 6:50 PMsnowluck2345 says:
How does this work? If I remember correctly HCL will not dissolve copper bercause of the electrochemsitry gotten from a electro pottential chart. I remember last year on an AP chem test one of the questions was in regards to why would HCL not dissolve copper, however H2SO4 would. I can't remember my answer, just that it was right.
Sep 6, 2011. 8:07 PMsnowluck2345 says:
I remembered why, Cu is less reactive than H so it is not displaced and no reaction occurs.
Apr 6, 2011. 1:30 PM0xCyrusx0 says:
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this, considering the intro picture contains hydrogen peroxide, acetone and hydrochloric acid.

Careful not to mix all 3, unless you're attempting to make unstable high explosives (Acetone peroxide http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone_peroxide).

It's dangerous enough when you're attempting to make it, I wouldn't want anyone to accidentally make some and dry out the crystals, or store it in a container with a screw on top (The crystals will sublime, and recrystalize in the threads on the container. Unscrewing it will break the crystals and detonate. One person on internet forums has died this way).

Besides that, I'll be using this method from now on. I already have the peroxide and acid and acetone from...other projects *Wink*
Sep 6, 2011. 8:01 PMJohenix says:
Acetone Peroxide (really Tri-Acetone-Tri-Peroxide) is known to all 'good' terrorists as "Mother of Satin" an ultra vicious unstable hard to control explosive. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!!!!!!

Political note: The only thing to negotiate with terrorists is whether they will be SHOT, HUNG or BEHEADED when captured.
Sep 6, 2011. 7:14 PMJR737 says:
Interestingly, the acetone peroxide explosion described is not just combustion of acetone, as you implied, but acetone peroxide is an entirely different structure (specifically, 3,3,6,6-tetramethyl-1,2,4,5-tetraoxane in the dimer form). It doesn't burn, it detonates!
Jun 24, 2011. 9:29 AMmr_man says:
I have heard 2nd hand from a dentist that 3% hydrogen peroxide is too strong to use as an oral antiseptic, so it should be diluted with water 1:1 (to get 1.5% peroxide). Peroxide also bleaches teeth stains, and is an inexpensive teeth "whitener".
Jul 29, 2011. 2:39 AMSparticles says:
Just a question: Is there a certain HCl concentration below which it won't work?
Because over here 23% is about the highest concentration easily accessible.
And I've tried the H2O2 / HCl ratio's 1/1 ; 2/1 ; 2/2. with little or no effect.

Then I have tried the vinegar method someone supposed here. With 80% vinegar. And the same ratios.
With vinegar it worked better (read "less worse") because the parts of copper wich should dissolve turned bright green. (it atcually looks very beautifull bit it is not really what I want)

This afternoon, I will try the same with battery acid 30-ish% H2SO4

Jul 29, 2011. 6:16 AMSparticles says:
Ok, by now I figured out that the developer is the problem. I used natrium silicate but aparently, I have to rub a layer off afterwards.
Jul 28, 2011. 11:50 PMroachburn says:
Could you use Denatured alcohol instead of acetone?
Jun 24, 2011. 9:41 AMmr_man says:
It should be possible to recover the copper metal from the copper chloride using basic electroplating. I have read that this reaction works but I haven't tried it. This appeals to me because: 1) It solves the disposal and storage problem, in a way that is safe, low-cost and DIY. 2) It recovers the valuable copper, 3) It could improve the circuit board by lowering the electrical resistance of planes and traces. 4) People making circuit boards typically have knowledge of electricity.
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