This recipe makes a lotion which feels light, spreads easily and is not greasy at all. The smell is actually pleasant, and it works really well against insects AND the sun. I can't give a precise SPF value -- that depends not only on how thickly it is spread on, but also the strength of the various ingredients which contribute to the SPF varies from batch to batch. Anyway the SPF value does not have much concrete meaning.... What I can say is that a few weekends ago I took my family to watch Prince Harry play polo on Governor's Island for an hour under a punishing sun, and none of us got burnt or bitten. Other spectators were not so lucky....
Thanks to Scoochmaroo for inspiring me to publish this. Her sunscreen is quite different from this one (very thick and stiff -- but also a whole lot less complicated) so I though it worthwhile to offer this alternative.
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UVA rays are much longer waves, and therefore they penetrate deeper into the skin. These are the rays responsible for the telltale signs of aging, and also for the #1 killer skin cancer, melanoma.
Some ingredients, such as zinc and titanium oxide provide "broad spectrum" protection, which means they block both UVB and UVA rays. These chemicals protect the skin by deflecting and diffusing the waves, but their drawback is that they make skin white when they are first applied. To counter this manufacturers have developed nano zinc and titanium particles which don't make you turn white. Unfortunately, since they are so tiny, they can penetrate into the bloodstream, where the damage they could wreck has not been studied. Unless you want to be part of a long term, unpaid, unmonitored, high risk medical study, avoid nano particles. Don't be so lazy and vain. Take a minute to rub in the regular zinc oxide, after a while you won't look like a zombie. I avoid titanium dioxide because it is carcinogenic (for sure on mice, possibly for us too) -- so why take the unnecessary risk when zinc does the job just as well?
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where do you get your zinc oxide from?
She gets mad when she's stuck in the stall all day away from the other horses and free grazing. I really want to use something like this on her. However, is this formula very greasy? I dont want to be surprised with saddle slippage. I've used regular sunscreens on her before and they sort of work. I was hoping to find some sort of liquid additives I can simply add to flyspray or just in a carrier oil and spray on (not a cream so I dont get horse hair all over my hands).
Any thoughts you could maybe share on this please?
-I love using Nutiva's organic, unrefined, cold-pressed coconut oil, which is solid at room temperature. Do you think this e-wax and other ingredients all mixed together with this type of oil will keep it emulsified and from clumping together?
-which zinc oxide on soapgoods.com do you use? I searched and found two for sale. one says "zinc oxide usp" and the other has "kodax 911" in the description... o_O
-does the vit. e act as a preservative also?
-as far as using this at the pool/beach, how often when swimming should I reapply? or is there another type of wax or something like lanolin/vegan alternative I could add to it to make it more water..durable?
I plan to make my own version of this for everyday use since I'll be moving to Florida next year with some replacements to the bug oils like lavender and geranium but would still like to have a nice reliable batch for when I go swimming. After researching sunblocks(which is how I stumbled upon your post) I just can't find a good brand ...or one that I can afford for regular use since I go swimming a lot !!! Sorry about all the questions.. :3 you just seem like you know what you're talking about :]
USP stands for "United State Pharmacopeia" and the Soapgoods website isn't very clear about differentiating which is which -- USP 1 is the finest mesh (which I have been avoiding, perhaps out of paranoia) USP 2 is the coarsest (probably the one Soapgoods simply call zinc oxide) and USP 3 is in between. I would suggest emailing them and finding out which is which, then ordering the regular zinc and not the micronized kind.
Yes Vitamin E acts as a preservative, because it is a very strong anti oxidant -- this means it helps prevent oil from turning rancid, although it will not prevent bacterium from growing.
I do have another recipe for sunscreen which is almost completely water proof (to take it off at the end of the day you practically need to scrub yourself will a brillo pad) but I have not had the chance to post it yet. Go to my website, sign up for my (very infrequent) newsletter, and that will give me just the motivation I need to write another newsletter with that very timely recipe...
www.solsunguard.com/zcote_brochure.pdf
Here's the tkbtrading page.
It appears that Z-Cote is exactly the new nano zinc that you cautioned against on the previous page.
According to this: answers.google.com The average pore size is 50 microns, which is much larger than the .2 micron Z-Cote or the .12 micron sized regular zinc oxide (this is the size of the product Soap Goods sells as well (pdf) )
According to this dermatology website, the micronized particles like Z-Cote can be potentially hazardous, but they also say that micronized particles coated with Dimethicone help to alleviate some of these risks. On that same TKB site, they offer HP1 Z-Cote which is exactly that, coated with Dimethicone, for not much more money.
OK, that's enough research for now. Anyone want to chime in?
Have you ever heard of adding Green Tea in this form to a DIY skin care product?
This blurb implies that other forms of zinc are good for the skin, but that zinc oxide is the only one not actually absorbed. I wonder if adding an alternate form of zinc would make a good addition to a formula.
Lutein, anyone?
I don't want it to seem like I am plugging this site, there's just a boat load of info there that I have been wading through for a few hours now. I realize that a lot of this goes into creating much more than simple sun screen :)
Jacob Schor, ND
May 6, 2007
Subject: Sunscreens transport the pesticides contained in insect repellent into the blood stream.
The chemicals used in sunscreen are absorbed through the skin and into your blood and are then excreted in your urine. As sunscreens penetrate the skin, they help carry other chemicals that are on the skin into the body. Examples of chemicals transported through the skin include pesticides, herbicides, and insect repellents.
Sunscreens increase absorption of DEET containing insect repellents through the skin.You should never use sunscreen on your skin the same time you are using DEET containing insect repellents.
I’ve been telling patients that, ‘At least sunscreen keeps us from getting sun burned.’ This might not be such a good thing. Sunscreens prevent reddening of the skin by blocking an enzyme in the skin that makes nitric acid. One of the functions of nitric acid is to inflame the skin. This inflammation signals your immune system to start protecting your skin and the pain tells you to get out of the sun. When sunscreens block nitric acid formation, the skin doesn’t redden, you stay in the sun longer, your skin is more damaged, and you increase your risk of skin cancer and premature aging. By preventing nitric acid formation, sunscreens only prevent the skin from getting red, they do not necessarily prevent sun damage.
With this in mind, we’ll try to remember to reorder the DEET-Free insect repellent we’ve been stocking the last few summers.
Past newsletters provide info on these repellents:
Natural Insect Repellent May 2004 http://denvernaturopathic.com/news/DEETFree.html
Natural Mosquito repellents, West Nile Virus, Tumor Necrosis Factor and other related topics July 2006http://denvernaturopathic.com/news/westnile.html
The website version of this newsletter contains abstracts of the papers referenced:
http://www.denvernaturopathic.com/news/sunscreenandbugrepellents.html
Now, he is partially correct in that some formulations of sunscreen worked by preventing reddening while not preventing tumors. But the addition of an antioxidant seems to have solved this problem. And of course using an inorganic UV-blocking pigment totally circumvents it.
You are also correct in stating that zinc oxide and titanium dioxide of reasonable microscopic particle size remain on the dead outer layer of the skin. These people actually used microscopes to check.
Bravo for calling him on the facts.
In the future, you might want to check the Reviews in PubMed to see what actual researchers have to say. (PMC, the PubMed Central part of the database, contains only articles you can read for free. Elsewhere, abstracts are still almost always free.)
Some people have an unfortunate tendency to hear about a scientific article secondhand and begin making wild claims. Scientific papers (especially in cutting-edge research) are generally very cautious in their interpretations and spell out their uncertainties. On the cutting edge, you can expect to see papers with seemingly contradictory results. It's only when an idea gets to the boring, non-newsworthy stage that you have a consensus.
By the way, when Swiss cosmetic companies want to make wild claims, which country do they say the product is from?
You might want to dig up a little history and find out what a "French Kiss" really is.
A small hint, go back to WW2 and research it from the beginning, and You'll probably have a good laugh also.
Cheers
The "French Kiss" was named, [putting this as nice as I can] when the American troops liberated France during WWII. I guess You might say the French were very grateful, and "orally promiscuous". That's why it's sometimes funny when the "term" is used in different ways today.
Cheers
What about Lanolin (rafinated wool grease) + Zinc Oxide?
Would be one heck of a (gr)easy recipe!
I'm not sure if I can come by small ammounts of Zinc Oxide, someone else wants to give it a try? Lanolin comes as hand cream in Belgium. Stays greasy on you for about 15min. (it's definitely not the "emulsion feel", quite perfect for large body surfaces), but afterwards it leaves the skin really smooth. Also 100% natural, water repellent.