Super Soft and Moist Chinese Bakery Buns

 by hlfwy.thr
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I recently stumbled upon the bread contest and thought, “Whoa! I can actually submit a half-decent entry for this!” Then it occurred to be that being stuck on campus, it means I am currently without my bread making ingredients/tools. As a result, there will be no photos with the exception of the final product. Instead, you'll get to see the results of my attempts to draw! I'll try to get some photos up when I am reunited with my bread gear.

After much trial and error, this recipe seems to produce a product that is the closest to the soft, moist, and chewy texture of the buns sold at Chinese bakeries. It uses a water roux to achieve the desired texture.

Total time from start to finished product will be approximately 3.5 hours. This recipe will yield about 15 dinner roll-sized buns.

 
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Step 1: Gather Tools

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Before you rush out to buy ingredients, make sure you have all the essential tools. Many can be improvised, but the scale is a MUST because all measurements will be given by weight for accuracy.

Essentials:
Large mixing bowl
Wooden spoon
Whisk
Proofing container (mixing bowl or other large container)
Bowl scraper (stiff spatula works too)
Dough cutter (upside down scraper or large non-serrated knife)
Baking tray/bread pan
Scale
Tea towel or plastic wrap

Optional:
Dough kneader (bread machine, stand mixer, cheap labour…)
Probe thermometer
Parchment paper
Pastry brush

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mchia1 says: Sep 17, 2012. 11:32 AM
My friend and I made your bread recipe this weekend. They are so delicious! My arms are dead from all the kneading, but it was worth it. Your recipe has been the best bread recipe I've tried so far. The rolls turned out super chewy and soft. Thank you for all of the hard work you've put into getting the recipe just right and sharing it with the internet :)
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rizanmsm says: Apr 2, 2012. 4:08 AM
I tried last weekend it came up perfectly. but I changed the shapes.
Everyone loved it. The instructions are very clear and easy to understand.
Thank you.
(check out some pictures)
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chowke says: Mar 17, 2012. 9:36 PM
Can I use this dough for steamed buns with meat and vegetable fillings?
hlfwy.thr (author) in reply to chowkeMar 18, 2012. 6:10 AM
This isn't the ideal dough for steamed buns. It won't give you that white pillow-y steamed bun texture or taste. I haven't figured out that dough yet!
Tooraj says: Dec 24, 2011. 3:24 PM
It has taken me almost a year to try this. I tried it last night on Christmas Eve and what a success! Perfect recipe, perfect buns! Truly, outstanding. Absolutely bakery quality bread.

Love the weight measurements and the illustrations.

Thank you very much.

BTW, I did voted when you first published this. You should have won, but runner up winner is great too.

Merry Christmas.
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hlfwy.thr (author) in reply to ToorajDec 25, 2011. 1:30 PM
Merry Christmas to you too! I'm glad you liked the recipe. Those look super yummy!
target022 says: Apr 25, 2011. 8:54 PM
These look great!
Could I use this recipe for pork buns, with a meat filling?
hlfwy.thr (author) in reply to target022Apr 26, 2011. 7:16 AM
Absolutely! This is the same bread as the one used for bbq pork buns at the chinese bakery.
cjccjc says: Jan 30, 2011. 6:37 PM
Also love the illustrations - Never had Chinese buns, and going to try this. One question, could these be used for hamburger / hot dog buns?
ktana in reply to cjccjcApr 14, 2011. 2:49 PM
There's a great snack found in many Chinese bakeries that is basically this type of bun wrapped around a hot dog and baked. Very tasty, nice contrast of salty and sweet.
astra28 says: Feb 18, 2011. 7:35 AM
Hi! I was wondering if you had a recipe for the chinese coconut bread or egg custard bread? :) those are my favorite! thanks a lot for this recipe!
hlfwy.thr (author) in reply to astra28Feb 19, 2011. 9:15 AM
I haven't tried to make coconut ones, but I would probably try the coconut filling section from this recipe:

http://blog.junbelen.com/2010/05/12/how-to-make-coconut-buns-chinese-cocktail-buns/

As for the custard buns...I have never made them either and I hesitate to post a link because I can't find one that I like, as is. I see too much variability in recipes. If you experiment though, let me know how it goes!

astra28 in reply to hlfwy.thrFeb 26, 2011. 5:54 PM
okay! thanks!
ElvenChild says: Feb 19, 2011. 7:08 AM
this tasted really good with rice and chow mein
hlfwy.thr (author) in reply to ElvenChildFeb 19, 2011. 9:16 AM
Awesome!
Senior Waffleman says: Jan 31, 2011. 9:21 AM
This looks amazing, i most likely cant make, does it have a particular taste?
hlfwy.thr (author) in reply to Senior WafflemanFeb 5, 2011. 10:14 PM
Umm..They're kinda sweet. I guess they would taste kinda like brioche, as someone mentioned. I've actually never had brioche, believe it or not, so I'm not sure.

I 'd say the defining feature is not so much the flavour but the soft, light texture.
Senior Waffleman in reply to hlfwy.thrFeb 6, 2011. 9:57 AM
Ok, thanks =)
mybodyby says: Jan 31, 2011. 8:51 AM
This super. Hi from Minsk. I want to translate it and to place with myself on a site - http://mybody.by/
hlfwy.thr (author) in reply to mybodybyFeb 5, 2011. 10:14 PM
Sure :)
kojak says: Feb 2, 2011. 9:21 PM
I followed your instructions. It looked a little hinky with the first addition of liquids, however after the eggs, milk and cream were involved, the 12 minutes showed real progress. I continued for 3 minutes more. I made 20 rolls at 50 g/roll. These turned out beautifully. However, being a FOG (fat, old guy) I am not really allowed to have any thing good. I gave my neighbors 16 of the rolls and I enjoyed the last 4. Each roll was about 155 calories. Calorie counts came from WolframAlpha.com
This is great. I will be serving these dinner rolls at my next party. Thanks for the tut!
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hlfwy.thr (author) in reply to kojakFeb 5, 2011. 10:05 PM
Glad that you liked it!
BeSomebody says: Jan 31, 2011. 2:18 PM
I voted! These look soo good :)
t.rohner says: Jan 31, 2011. 2:07 AM

Hello, very nice buns.

I've been baking for a long time now and i never stumbled upon "roux" in baking. Since my better half has a cooking school, i heard about roux before, and it always was a combination of flour and some fatty component.(mostly butter)
Then i took a closer look on what you do with it and after seeing how you process your "roux", it's a gelatinization of the wheat starch.(I know about gelatinization of starch from my brewing experience)
It helps to retain more water, than in non gelatinized starch mixes.(in this case, your dough...)

When i look at your ingredients, a "Brioche" recipe comes to my mind. (loaded with butter, cream, milk and eggs)

I posted a recipe of a regional sepcialty, which is a little lower in fat.

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-make-a-Braid-%22Butterzopf%22-or-Challah/

You can also make a sweet variety of it with hazelnut, raisins, apple filling. This is called a "Russian thread" here.
Or with "prosciutto di parma" and parmigiano, i love this.

Before christmas, the dough is sweetened with vanilla sugar and little figures are formed with the dough. (especially for the kids)

By the way, you have very nice illustrations.


Novembersky says: Jan 31, 2011. 1:38 AM
that's why it said "scale required"
VirginiaCee says: Jan 30, 2011. 7:41 PM
Don't know grams could you break it down in cups and teaspoons and things we use here in America? Thanks
Drew-Oz in reply to VirginiaCeeJan 31, 2011. 1:28 AM
You could look online for conversions...
I just found this site:
http://www.convert-me.com/en/
click on the "cooking conversion" link... et voila!
loricollins says: Jan 30, 2011. 4:28 PM
I don't think you should put in pictures. I loved the illustrations.
jennyvier says: Jan 30, 2011. 3:16 PM
(Also, I love the illustrations. ^_^)
hlfwy.thr (author) in reply to jennyvierJan 30, 2011. 3:42 PM
I actually saw this in the related instructables
trike road poet says: Jan 30, 2011. 3:26 PM
Outstanding!
Now anyone know a easy steamer for the stove top for doing the rolls that way as well?
jennyvier says: Jan 30, 2011. 3:15 PM
What a great instructable! Thanks so much. :)

This really is a great primer, and you cover all aspects of bread making well - I look forward to trying these out!
kojak says: Jan 30, 2011. 1:38 PM
This is a great tutorial. Love everything about it, the photos, the illustrations & the text. Even the weight of everything.

I am going to try to make a batch tonight.
hjhapje7 says: Jan 30, 2011. 3:11 AM
don't they steam them in china?
LawnBoy1991 in reply to hjhapje7Jan 30, 2011. 10:51 AM
there are two ways, some baked, some steamed. If you haven't tried baked Chinese buns, oh man you've missed out.
gabrielelmex says: Jan 30, 2011. 10:40 AM
gigidy
JoeWirth says: Jan 29, 2011. 1:18 PM
Do you have the ingredients in cups, tsp.... That be awesome!!
jesebsp in reply to JoeWirthJan 30, 2011. 9:49 AM
here is a converter.

http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/cooking-conversions/cooking-conversions-calculator.aspx?t=t&foodg=0&foods=&fno=0#food

hlfwy.thr (author) in reply to JoeWirthJan 29, 2011. 1:47 PM
Sorry, no. I only work with weight because accuracy is required for bread. Invest in a scale. You won't regret it!
rhkramer in reply to hlfwy.thrJan 31, 2011. 4:21 AM
I'd like someone to explain how a scale is more accurate. In the past, without thinking about it, I was given (and accepted) the explanation that flour (in particular, but also other nominally dry ingredients) could have varying amounts of moisture depending in the humidity, with an impication that weighing (instead of measuring by volume) could somehow compensate for that variation in moisture.

Now that I've thought about it, that explanation doesn't stand up. If there is more moisture in the flour, the (nominally dry) flour will weigh more, and measuring by weight will give you less flour. Measuring volumetrically is very accurate if you consistently use the same measuring devices (spoons and cups), and level the ingredient with a straight edge.

On the other hand, I can imagine that "heaping" measures can vary, But, how does a scale provide more accuracy than "leveled" volumetric measures.

(Just a side note: And I know that with varying moisture content in the flour you might need to vary the amount of water, but that would be done based on the "feel" of the dough. I've never had to do it. (And, I can imagine that in a large scale commercial bakery they actually measure the moisture in the flour or something similar.)
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