Which is the best?
The truth is that there is no one best. It depends on many factors including:
A. Your finances
B. Your technical skills
C. Your soldering skills
D. Your application
E. Time and labor available
I am going to relate some of my experiences and very subjective opinions.
I encourage others to express their own experiences. Please send comments.
I actually started using Arduinos because of Instructables. Instructables has several very good ‘Arduinos’. Here’s a few:
DIY-Arduino-or-The-DIY-Duino
It looks like a great Arduino and is very well documented.
It does require making your own PCB.
Standalone-Arduino-ATMega-chip-on-breadboard
Another good one.
It requires use of a breadboard.
Build-Your-Own-Arduino
Another good one.
It requires use of a breadboard.
Ardweeny-2-How-to-customize-an-Ardweeny
If you plan on using an ‘Ardweeny’, I would suggest following this Instructable.
Suggestion: Many Instructables leave pin 1 (Reset) unattached. Apparently this will work but I would suggest pulling it up with a 10K resistor to +5v. An unattached floating input pin can be unpredictable. And can cause intermittent problems.
Caution: Breadboards are very handy for prototyping. I use them a lot. I do caution the user after they’re used for awhile, some of the connections can become unreliable(intermittent). One reason is sticking in connections that are bigger than what the breadboard is designed for. Be careful of power connectors and voltage regulators. Another problem is contaminated components.
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I think my first ‘Arduino’ was a Freeduino kit.
http://www.freeduino.org/freeduino_open_designs.html
Features: Arduino shield compatible, socketed Atmega328 (bootloader), USB and voltage regulator
What I liked about Freeduino:
Good quality PCB
Soldered easily
Medium quality parts
One of the primary suppliers is NKC Electronics
http://www.nkcelectronics.com/Arduino_c_9.html
They have a lot of Arduino stuff but I don’t think I’ve used them.
I bought my Freeduino from Seeed Studio
http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/
What I liked about Seeed Studio:
Great prices (sometimes, look for bargains and sales)
Email support was okay
Lots of sensors I haven’t seen elsewhere
Disliked:
China, so shipping time is long
Documentation is spotty. They have a sensor platform called electronic brick that doesn’t seem to be well documented.
I will use again.
When to use: If shield compatibility is needed. If USB is needed all the time.
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LOG
There are some blank 'Arduino' PCBs available. Ebay has some Arduino Duemilanove boards for pretty cheap:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-Arduino-Duemilanove-2009-AVR-ATmega328P-168-PCB-/220817832491?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3369c4ba2b#ht_1619wt_1025
You do have to solder a surface mount USB chip on it though. And if you can do that , there are also some Chinduino Mega clones that take a bigger Atmega surface mount chip.
Also here is an older Freeduino PCB:
http://store.nkcelectronics.com/freeduino-serial-v20-p20.html
This one has a serial port instead of USB.
Oh, by the way these do not fit my definition of single sided boards but I don't know why that would make a difference?
I hope you get into Arduinos. I know what you mean about development boards. I like Arduinos because there's so much support for them and writing Arduino code is so much easier than the typical C++ code used for most microcontrollers.
LOG
I did make my own though:
http://www.instructables.com/id/LOG-10-Arduino/
LOG
OK now my "?",-=]
I'm looking to purchase an Arduino and my electronics hobby mostly orbits around breadboard projects. My interests are swaying towards the Arduino Duemilanove (because of its many shields/compatiblities) but not sure if (being new to microcontrollers) I should start there or just settle with the boArduino as a starting point.
(only down side to the BoArduino is its not shield compatable)
(I've never used or programmed a MC before but im am familiar with programming languages)
Any suggestions?
Working with Arduinos require you to load the Arduino software and USB drivers on to your computer and communicate with the Arduino. With one of these, you don't have to worry about the hardware and can focus on getting the software to work.
And as you say, they're shield compatible. One of my favorite shields is the AdaFruit SD card shield. I also have and LCD shield and several protoshields.
As you get into Arduinos you will probably get something like the boArduino. At some point you will probably have a project that isn't working and wonder if the Atmega chip is still working. So you can take the chip and plug it into your Arduino Duemilanove and test it.
I've done some work with a couple of other microcontrollers. While the Arduino is not the fastest or more versatile, I use it because it is so well supported on the Internet. The Arduino software may seem limiting at first but it's pretty versatile and there is vast community support.
Hope you enjoy,
LOG
got it for 39.95 they have another one that is ethernet instead of usb for 69.95
if your in australia like me Jaycar has them for the same prices if your worried about shipping and Ebay = Hell.
it also has some other chips on there but so far i have just pluged it in i will write and let people know how they are but so far it looks good.
First project get a led or motor( Servo from remote control car to work )
then the big test Digital to Analgue sound i hope that works as the DAC of shelf normaly just stereo sound i hope to get 4 channel if it works will post then go all out and get the mega and do full 7.1 D.A.C and post.
Thanks MS for the help with selecting Arduino.
I've been building my own Arduinos.
http://www.instructables.com/id/LOG-10-Arduino/
http://www.instructables.com/id/Battery-Reconditioner/
I do get most of my electronics from ebay to save money but yes, shipping takes forever.
Good luck on your DAC project; sounds interesting.
LOG
its 100% compatable IO shield thats handy, it has a smd voltage regulator 7 - 12 volts i have run all the standard tests with it, and it come preloaded with blink d13 was flashing at 1000 i changed it worked instantly, after a flash of the rx and tx leds after writing it reset it self and started the new mod i made for blink i also did readrom test it worked changing between sketchs is less then a second but at this point i have only tried the Arduino examples
here is a link to the model i have.
also has a built in proto area on the unit it self. good for a simple test so you know your chip works. PS yes i know it has the blink test with D13 but its not MY test lol.
http://www.freetronics.com/products/eleven
LOG
and i figured out what was wrong i think i need a crystal for it to stay in sync while it programs
I just wish they were a little cheaper.
LOG
I guess my original concerns with the Ardweeny are soldering directly onto the AtMega chip pins, the difficulty of having to replace it and having the IC pins out in the area subject to static electricity and physical damage.
But addressing my own concerns, the AtMega seems to be a pretty robust chip. I haven't lost one yet. Static damage shouldn't be much worse than any other 'Arduinos' and if you're careful, physical damage is pretty unlikely.
It does look like the Ardweeny would be handy for certain applications.
Thanks for your comments,
LOG
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