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This is a concept based on a idea I had on harvesting gravitational potential energy from rain or any elevated source of water.

The system works by having a pair of tubes that contain a cup each. When the cup is at the top of the tube, a valve opens allowing water to fill the cup. As water fills the cup, it gets heavier and starts to move down the tube. Once at the bottom of the tube a valve opens to drain the water, thus the cup is now lighter and can be pulled up by its partner cup that would be filled with water. The pair of cups moving up and down alternatively via a chain can now power a generator by meshing a sprocket to the chain.
An interesting feature of this design is that you can line up more pairs so you have a row of them and it would improve the output you can get.
Another possible configuration to "stack" the system is to have the pairs where one is upstream of the other thus requiring only one water channel

In this step the 2nd and 3rd pictures show the starting position of each cycle, half way through the cycle the condition is just mirrored where the left side cup is at the top and the right side cup is at the bottom

Here are the screenshots of the design in made in Solidworks
(I really wanted to put in an animation of it working and spent many hours/days getting it to work but my laptop just cant handle it and crashes too much to get any usable animation. but i will try and get one in later)

Please vote for me in the CAD contest if you like this concept, I hope to get some of the parts printed so I can actually test out the device as my access to tools and materials to fabricate this is very limited and quite insufficient.

*Updates*
As pointed out by Kiteman, frictional lose will be an issue, thus maybe the tube can be switched to a pair of guide rails since the tube is only there to guide the cup to the valve mechanisms. As for friction in the chain i guess we just need good lubrication
 
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The theory is that the water will fill the cup and run it down to the bottom ongoing the collection shaft. At this point the cup at top will activate the valve an fill with water as well. And repeat the cycle.

2 thoughts, why not just replace the other cup with a weight? Then when the cup empties at the bottom the weight would reset the location of the cup.

2 this seems to take up a lot more space than a few simple water wheels would. Especially if you are using this "chute collection" method.

You could even use the same cups and chain for the conversion to the water wheel.
michaelgohjs (author)  HelmutHound1 year ago
To answer the first question, I want to try and use as much of the incoming water as I can, so this speeds it up. And If you use a counter weight consider these 3 weights
A) weight = cup, the cup goes down well but might have trouble going back up since we want to turn a generator
B) weight > cup, the cup goes back up well but will go down slower and face more trouble going down
C)weight < cup, well i dont think its going back up
By having both cups change their weight (light when down, heavy when up) we get the best results
michaelgohjs (author)  michaelgohjs1 year ago
B) weight > cup, the cup goes back up well but will go down slower and face more trouble going down

let me rephrase that,
the cup has no problems going back up but more water is needed drive it down as opposed to having an empty cup on the other end
michaelgohjs (author)  michaelgohjs1 year ago
water wheels and turbines might work better or they might not, I am proposing and alternative that might shine under certain constraints
bpetno1 year ago
what energy crisis? we have enough coal and natural gas to last us hundreds of years
michaelgohjs (author)  bpetno1 year ago
Haha maybe its not a crisis, but how wide does your scope of "us" go? and green energy is a thing now-a-days
Anyway in many countries we get lots of rain and I feel its such a waste if it does nothing, many people collect rainwater for various uses, why not harvest the energy as you collect the water.
nbenson11 year ago
The method I described would be more efficient and less complex. The more direct the more efficient. Wasting energy on cogs and valves etc. you could probably turn a CPU fan into a make shift turbine for testing both methods.
michaelgohjs (author)  nbenson11 year ago
i'll test it out if/when i build it =)
Thanks
Kiteman1 year ago
This is a clever "small footprint" design, but there would be a lot of friction losses. You could, instead, use an automatic syphon to dump tanks of rainwater through a turbine, or, if you have space, build a see-saw affair, where the length of a lever is used to amplify the force of the weight of the cibtaiber of rain.
michaelgohjs (author)  Kiteman1 year ago
I thought about the frictional losses too, but since the tube is only there to guide the cup, I think the bulk of the tube could be replaced by a pair of rails with bearings on the cup. Thanks for the ideas, i am not familiar with the see-saw affair, will look into it.
The siphon would stop working when there is no water and require a manual "restart" when there is water right?
Automatic syphons self-trigger when they fill to a certain level.

Scroll down: http://www.users.waitrose.com/~ttagrevatt/vlav/works_cisterns.html
michaelgohjs (author)  Kiteman1 year ago
Ahh.. thanks, very interesting read
nbenson11 year ago
Definitely interesting but it would be more efficient to trap the rain in like a bucket and have a little turbine at the bottom underneath a small hole. The water would rush out the hole at a fast rate and spin the turbine directly generating power. Let me know how you go
michaelgohjs (author)  nbenson11 year ago
That is a much more direct approach, simple and effective.
But I was hoping to find a more efficient method, not sure if this is it as i can't test it or run simulations due to performance.

Thanks for the feedback!
michaelgohjs (author) 1 year ago
Yup, the idea is to have it fixed to the gutter but i might have forgot to mention it
nbenson11 year ago
Also it is probably better to attach this to a houses down pipe. That way you have a large surface area of rain to use. Rain on its own just out somewhere wouldn't do much