The K'nexecutioner 2.11 - "Cyclone"

The long-awaited sequel to the original extra-heavy K'nex machine gun, Cyclone wipes the floor with its predecessor in every category - power, range, portability, versatility.

Designed to be the most powerful* K'nex fully-auto machine gun yet. Really - every single round of Cyclone's belt carries some decent strengh for a K'nex gun.

- If you have enough pieces, build two! It's one-handed.

- Unlike its picky predecessor, Cyclone has an open front and can use any size of rod for ammo. This includes flighted 'sniper' rounds.

Version History (updated):
2.0 - "Cyclone" first created but kept classified. Based off of the likewise-named weapon from Perfect Dark, it was powerful and fast-firing, but pitiful that only 17 of 19 barrels were usable.
2.1 - Extensive restructuring was necessary to make it fire from the top where barrels are further apart, instead of the side. This new layout is more compact.
2.11 - Significant improvement made to ammunition belt allowing for variable ammo sizes.

** Before you build: Know that not all K'nex motors are made equal. Some K'nex motors (at least a few of mine that I know for sure) are incapable of being used on the Cyclone because they too easily start clicking under too much load. Proceed if you are confident you have a good motor. Just a fair warning. **

*Hardest hitting, not fastest rpm.

Step 1: The Ammunition Belt

If you haven't the parts for the ammo belt, there'd be no point in continuing past this step, so let's get the tedious, hard, annoying, etc. part done first.

Find an efficient method for building them, else you'll be spending a lot of time on this step. (okay, it will take a long time regardless)

This step alone requires:
209 dark-grey connectors
209 blue spacers
57 grey spacers (each counts as 3 blue spacers)
57 black chain-links
57 red and light-grey connectors
.. among other things.

Use 2x type 64 rubber bands only! Too much power may result in broken K'nex pieces.

For simplicity's sake when attaching and removing the ammo belt, make sure that every black chain link is facing down.

Cyclone requires a specific number of barrels, unlike other open-belt machine guns. 19, to be exact. Get to it!

Comments

[daredevil499]

This is very awesome

[cool knex13]

Great but I do not have that much chains

Love to make it

[gooldnoofgrin]

Absolutely amazing. A bit heavy though and the chain will only turn if you have a powerful motor but still great.

[weadeadr]

i have the dulexe simple machine and another set that include about 1000 pieces and 8 more punds and i think i can build llike ten of them if i dont include the moters in 8 of them

[weadeadr]

better than the one with twin belt(simple and seem easier to make and it looks light wieght

[Fred the evil puppet]

and how much time exactly do you have on your hands?!?!
and to make two i mean holy s***!!!!!

[travw]

I know this is an old gun, but here's what I think: It's way too front heavy, and I had a problem with the elbow rest breaking off, it's pretty powerful and has a good range, but I would never, never use it in war.

*3.5

[KnexFreek]

UHHM mOuNt It !!!!

[travw]

Ok, again, what's with ThE sTuPiD eVeRy OtHeR bEiNg A cApItAl ThInG?!? There's no point! Secondly, I posted that comment "Jul 18, 2009. 9:02 PM".

[KnexFreek]

i like caps srry...

[travw]

That's ok, it just makes it really hard to read. And, again, there's no point.
^{But we cool. =p}

[Revan_Taros]

looks like one of those gods-forsaken capchas (f***ing hat those things)

[KnexFreek]

ok

[Mace!]

Why wouldn't you use it in a k'nex war? If you want to use a machine gun then you would use this one.

[erikos kostarikos]

excactly...

[DJ Radio]

The only reason I wouldnt use this in a knex war is the reload times.

[Mace!]

So you would'nt use a machine gun period...........

[DJ Radio]

If it doesnt require me to reload, I would use it. Otherwise, its a disposable gun.

[Perfect Duck]

It's the opposite way of thinking for me, I see the reloading of machine guns as potential and not a drawback. Scenario: Say you have 19 shots. You fire 5. You have the time to load 2 more shots. You have 16 shots left and fire another 10 (perhaps too many), but an opposing player is outgunned and defeated. You use cover that you've gained to reload, and this time manage to reload 11 barrels, a few at a time. Now you've got 17 shots, etc. You have the ability to spend your idle time building up a very powerful multi-shot attack that you can use and dispense freely, and then once you're safe you're back to building up that potential again. The Cyclone is always ready to fire at moment's notice and you can easily take advantage of safe cover. Cyclone reloading is simple, you pull the pin back, the trigger for that individual pin will automatically set itself, then you reach to the front to slide a rod in, and set the holder and you're good. Reloading all 19 at a time would be cumbersome but doing it one, two at a time in the heat of a battle scenario could be easily pulled off. Hope that dispels a bit of your concern about reloading, but if you still think it takes too long, you're probably right because other K'nex weapons ARE easier to reload, I'll admit. The biggest competition are pump-actions.

[Revan_Taros]

or you could make extra chains.

[Fred the evil puppet]

*facepalm*

[Mace!]

Exactly how I use it in a k'nex war.

[DJ Radio]

Im going to make a knex gun that has the ROF of the knexsayer, but has the fast reload times of my AR-4 v3. But yeah, your system does sound solid.

[smattman22]

how do i find or start a knex war?

[travw]

Go start a forum or something, don't be a dumb@$$ and ask on a random instructable.

[smattman22]

rofl

[travw]

How was that funny?

[travw]

Well, actually, I can reload a Knexsayer faster than an AR-4 v3. Which is odd, considering AR-4 v3 holds less rounds than Knexsayer.

[DJ Radio]

The newest version holds 1 more round than the knexsayer. The modded one has a 9 round hopper, which I think you have not seen....

[travw]

Oh yeah, I forgot about the newest one. Sorry.

[DJ Radio]

not to mention the fact that you can load up to 3 rounds in the hopper at once.

[travw]

True... Didn't think about that.

[DJ Radio]

;-)

[KILLERK]

hey man what u been up to? i love this gun

[smilee]

Okay then I'll post it then thanks for you permission!

[smilee]

I made instructions NOW post your tr8?

[smilee]

NOW can I post your tr8?

[travw]

True, but if I did use it, I'd probably unload the whole thing, then switch to a different gun.

[travw]

.....Because of what I said??? Maybe if it was mounted on some sort of rotating turret, but otherwise, the back portion breaks off and the whole thing plops to the ground... There were broken pieces everywhere!!1 Want that to happen in the middle of a battle?

[Perfect Duck]

You must have built it incorrectly because the elbow rests hold true to their structure even when I swing it moderately into the load-bearing section. I wouldn't post anything that is prone to structural failure. As far as it being front-heavy, I also created a mod for it that gave extended structure out the front of it, providing another handle in the front far out enough so that it doesn't interfere with yellow rod sized ammo. I never posted that version, though.

[erikos kostarikos]

I totally LOVE your guns.

[travw]

Ok, I don't wanna argue... Maybe I did make it wrong, but I already took it apart anyway. ('Cause I was down to about 10 dark grey connectors.) I'd love to see the one with two handles, if you still have it.
=p

[travw]

Also: I would much prefer Oodalump's Gatling Gun to this. It's much more powerful and sturdy.

[derty123]

pooor guy nooooooo liiifffffeeeeee

[geodez]

Listen, at least he is an expert engineer (with K'nex) you just randomly favorite Instructables and fail at spelling.

[Perfect Duck]

You're totally right. It's 2010 and I posted this back in 2007. Think of all the things I could have done... I should get back into K'nex since it's a great hobby.

[mettaurlover]

You should get back in not just because it's fun, but also because there aren't enough people out there as good at it as you are.

[Jesus.]

Can I use this motor?

[jmm72]

where did u get that motor

[geodez]

I got mine from the Saw Blade Thrill Ride.

[jmm72]

ok thanks

[geodez]

You are welcome.

[7stepto]

two words OVER KILL!!!!!!!! that is one awsome gun.... good for you

[prodo123]

Thanks for the ammo belt mechanisms. I made a sniper out of it. Thanks! The instructions to it is here:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Knex-Sniper-Rifle-SR-70-Instructions/

[prodo123]

I am making a machine gun now, it's still unnamed. It will use your ammo belt on my custom belt.
@Warlocksteve, lol take a look at this gun when it finishes.

[warlocksteve]

 you need too maNY grAY connectors

[warlocksteve]

 hey, someone in my skl broke my morot with the "1" on it, i have the #2 one, will it do?
, cause its like 1 battery pack with two motors?

[bikon48]

BEST guns ive seen very good man

[gerrits13]

can u use less blue spacers i only have around 100

[cool bas3]

need you all the ball socket of can you use orange connectors???

[Perfect Duck]

Orange connectors, once the round is loaded, are long enough to rub against the stucture of the arm hold and occaisionally get caught and snagged as the belt tries to rotate. So, yes and no, orange connectors could work but I don't reccomend it. Might be able to make a smooth surface for them so they harmlessly glide over. Switching to black ball-socket connectors solved the problem for me.

[Lowney]

Oh wow I thought you'd stopped using 'ibles ages ago! You got any new gun designs?

[cool bas3]

so brocken orange connectors can also

[Superpoopa]

Knex Machine guns dont go as far , no point in k'nex war

[ytreza]

cool very cool gun but the knexexcunater somthing like that is very very good and likes powerfull

[jimbob the great]

as far as i can tell the knexecutioner is just 2 cyclones joined together is this right? by the way, great gun 5*

[hack124x768]

What? No movie? That's was what made the original so awesome!!!

[heat-seeker]

there is check on his you tube

[geodez]

what is the one on that last pic? i really want to build.

[Perfect Duck]

Huh? That's what a cyclone looks like with its belt on and fully loaded with yellow rods for ammo.

[geodez]

i see that now... i just noticed that it was circular instead of ovalish like on the 3rd picture... i like it because it is circular, it is so neat.

[Black Thunder]

I don't have enough pieces and gears. Oh by the way, COOL gun!!! Can you also make a gun with less pieces, please?

[punk12345678]

how did you find out how to make this and how long mave you been working with knex for

[treytor]

How heavy is this? 2 pounds or so?

[Miles Tails Prower]

I think I'll build it. I have the Cyberk'nex motor and I have enough k'nex.

[KnexBuildFreak]

Hi, I'm KnexBuildFreak.This is a very cool mechine gun. Is it powerful?! Here is my machine gun:

[F-17]

U f'in copied that u retart

[Perfect Duck]

Afaik, this guy doesn't go to 'ibles anymore. This shenanigan's over a year old and resolved.

[Miles Tails Prower]

AGAIN THAT STUPID COPY!!!

[TigerNod]

I like the looks, but I dislike the performance.

[minerug]

no it isnt, u copyed the fireing bit from someone else

[Perfect Duck]

Given the information I got from the last step of your instructable, I have to conclude that the Cyclone here is more powerful than your machine gun, on the order of possibly 2-3 times. This is because of major differences in the barrels. The cyclone barrels give the ram an entire 3.5 inches of acceleration space before it even hits the ammo it's going to be firing, allowing it to reach a very fast speed before striking. Also, twice as powerful rubber bands as what I see yours using.

Also, Cyclone has more barrels, 16 vs. 19.

I wish we could compare videos, but here's what I have, two cyclones (both operated by me at the same time) firing off a full load of grey rods (Like most every other machine gun cannot do) It can fire red and yellow rods a whole lot harder, but you get the idea.

[builder968]

would build, but (sniff) only have 7 (sniff) gears. (runs in corner and cries)

[Givadanger]

lol

[builder968]

tanks

[Miles Tails Prower]

WAAH TANKS! YOU ARE GOING TO SEND ALOT OF TANKS TO GIVADANGER TO EXTERMINATE HIM! WAAH! Unless you meaned "Thanks" instead of "tanks".

[builder968]

ummmmmmmmmmmm this comment is like SIX MONTHS OLD!!!!

[Miles Tails Prower]

I know

[builder968]

thanks, and now i have more gears! (like 15) :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[Miles Tails Prower]

Finally got a brand-new Cyberk'nex motor. Now I can build!!!

[Hiyadudez]

Dude, YOU ARE AWESOME !!!!! Thats all i gotta say lol...

[Miles Tails Prower]

I have a question here. Could you please reply fast? Does your classic motor need the long cord??? Or can I also use the short cord?

[Perfect Duck]

I've had someone say before that his classic motor didn't have enough cord length. You need about 8 inches of cord.

[Miles Tails Prower]

Oohh.. I want that Cyberknex motor REALLY BAD!!!

[Miles Tails Prower]

Isn't the previous version better? Because it is double-chained. Just wondering.

[Perfect Duck]

Well you could hold two of these and have two chains that way. Really, one cyclone alone is better than the K'nexeucutioner because its ammo belts are much more potent and it has a longer range.

[Miles Tails Prower]

Okay. Well I am soon getting alot more gears, I will purchase 30 or something so I can build this. I will also fit in my very powerful All Terrain Trekker, because I don't have Cyber K'NEX motors... (I wish I had them.)

[Mr Cheeseo]

Are you homeschooled?

[I_am_Canadian]

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[pls]

I do online classes :D

[I_am_Canadian]

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[Mr Cheeseo]

I do classes through epgy.

[pls]

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[I_am_Canadian]

I meant what website :-p

[pls]

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[I_am_Canadian]

Cool! So is this national, or do you just work with kids in your area...? And do you do everything on the comp?

[pls]

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[I_am_Canadian]

Coolio!

[pls]

Ya, takes alot of motovation though.

[I_am_Canadian]

I bet. If you dont mind me asking, how old are you?

[pls]

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[I_am_Canadian]

My parents wont let me say, but Im close to you.

[pls]

okay.

[I_am_Canadian]

Sorry :-p

[pls]

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[I_am_Canadian]

Soo.. Are you saying you want my age?

[pls]

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[Perfect Duck]

Can this conversation be done elsewhere? Like through private messages?

[pls]

I'll just delete me comments.

[polabearboi]

is there any way u could make a mod to that so that i could use my knex hot rod motor?????(way faster than the others)

[Perfect Duck]

That motor would have to be placed apart from the belts because it wouldn't fit inside. I generally dislike putting too much twisting force on K'nex rods which would have had to be done to give it a long drive shaft. I have the high-power grey all-terrain trekker motor, but never really used it much.

[Miles Tails Prower]

LOL. I got two old ones. They work perfectly, but sometimes they need some contact spray, because there have been leaked batteries in there lol.

[Miles Tails Prower]

How can I use an All Terrain Trekker?

[the-ruler-of-craziness]

do you think there is a mod to turn this in to a hand cranked mg

[Perfect Duck]

The ammo wraps around its own motor, so there's no long shafts or connections between the power source and its destination. To have a crank coming in from the outside would be bery difficult to build, considering the limitation that there's less room to work with once the ammo is fully loaded (nothing can stick out too far from behind). I've thought of ways to do it but none that I liked. The only way to really do it is to have such a crank actually be in the -front-.

[Bartboy]

I have a problem,my good motor is a cyberknex motor, but it has 2 motors tethered together! will this still work?

[knex mad]

how have you got such a long wire on you motors

[nivek360]

hey! I got an idea. first buy an iron hide costume then make one of your guns and load it with fireworks. then after that paint it all black and track down the decepticons (the guy who's guarding the bank)! hahahahahahahha. cool gun anyway.

[builder968]

you're obsessed with transformers, man

[nivek360]

lol, im not so obsessed........

[builder968]

ummmm..okay?

[KNEX BUILDING IS FUN]

you know what would be great?..... a peice count(in begging voice)! could any1 do this ? =( plz! it would be greatly apreciated

[F-17]

I like the dullies but for some reason it doesn't look when it's loaded but it still shoots:} so thats a good thing!

[Perfect Duck]

In the picture with me holding both at the camera, they are unloaded. In the video, it is loaded with blue rods which don't hardly stick out of the barrels at all, and in the final picture with me holding just one, it's loaded with yellow.

[F-17]

Ooooooook!

[The Jamalam]

I so want to build!!!!!!! but I don't have many gears *sniff* Oh and great gun!

[matrix828]

holy ****. thats TOTALLY AWESOME!!!

[oharaandrewlp]

Holy ****!! That thing is huge!! I wouldn't want to be hit with that!

[daz108]

i finaly did it i have now made a minigun that every round that fires peirces a cardboard box!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the downside is it is insanely huge and uses 3,000 and somthing knex pieces!!!!!!!!!!!!!!i am now in the process of putting up instructions for it

[Mad Cat]

Do you still mean it? Does it use a chain or not?

[daz108]

no chain i just made a small handgun that can shoot a grey rod threw cardboard and then put a load of them together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! instructions have been delayed my dog sat on the gun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CoolJB]

Must... build... this... if... I... have... more... pieces...

[popomaster]

no offense, but it looks like you need to see some sunlight.

[deviant]

hey perfect duck can you use orange conectors to hold the rubber bands on intead of those pices that hold ball joints together

[Perfect Duck]

Orange connectors are longer, and will rub up against, or potentially un-snap, as they rotate past the structure for the arm-rest (Where the red rod at the center, underneath the battery pack is). You may find another way around this problem, but I changed to black ball socket connectors, which just barely fit without touching.

[deviant]

the only thing problem i have is that i've only got about 10 black ball sockets

[dsman195276]

i was able to get by by changing the balljoints to grey connectors(well light grey connectors, i ran out of dark greys) you have to find you own way of ataching the rubberband to the connector because it has to go through the hole.

[I_am_Canadian]

can any of those grays be substituted with reds?

[redneckobsessed]

how many pieces in all?

[I_am_Canadian]

about 209846029587392 too many

[extreme builder]

check out my new fully automatic knex gun
http://www.instructables.com/id/fullyauto-knex-gun/

[ojochris]

Is there any way to do this without as many grey connectors?

[redneckobsessed]

OH MY GOSH! THAT IS INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[the_burrito_master]

http://www.instructables.com/forum/knex-tank-that/

here is what I did with the motors they are sweet!

[mrbox]

Hmm... Very good gun worked well a little confusing in some areas but overall + 1

What if there was a gun that had three revolving barrels that were triggered with a knex piece having three gears on it and each level you push, it would trigger the corresponding barrel.

How about this barrel X 3

It would be nice to have an unreal tournament gun =/ sadly i dont have enough pieces.... just bought enough to get two cyclones... and just enough to come up with an idea....

[cowscankill]

unreal? i have unreal, um unreal 2 maybe, and unreal tournament 3 i could try to build one :)

[Nuzz0]

nice gun, and by the way, are you a girl or a boy lol?

[Perfect Duck]

o-O I'm a guy, with long hair.

[Need4Chaos]

Dayum! you have too much time on your hands but this is just sick!!! 10/10

[ojochris]

HOLY F***IN S**T DUDE THAT'S CRAZY!!!!

[ironman69]

"I LOVE THIS GUN":).Before it I have built the K'nexecutioner1.02 but I had to do some mod's to it because only have the old fashion motors. but with the right gear ratio it was VERY fast!

[Gun Maniac]

Im working on a knex maxim gun, when I am finished I will post it.

[nick_ripmees]

sick

[darth acexxacer]

if I build i will make a pair of ammo belts and wear one as a belt

[dsman195276]

my machine gunhay perfect duck check out my machine gun it has no chain. also i would like to see my machine gun made with one of your motors. it would be a loot stronger because i am using a clasic moter.

p.s. your machine gun rules. but i modded it to work with my 6 inches of wire. the picture is on the machine gun instructable

[mcv1000]

wow its a great gun and i built it on a robot from the cyber ultra set, and now its remote controlled!!

thnx perfect duck for your perfect cyclone!

[Perfect Duck]

Looks like nobody's a fan of Perfect Dark ... *sigh*

[Vertigo666]

Looks really really good, one of those all-time classics from what I've seen in that video. If I only knew what system... N64? PS1? PS2? PS3? (I've only got PS2 and PS3)

[cowscankill]

who's perfect duck? if i knew, i might like him

[Knexarmageddon]

i love perfect dark- zero too.

[zero0928]

zero who?

[crestind]

My friend is lol. I probably would be if I had an N64... Is the new XBOX one any good? Zero or something like that. If it's anything like Red Faction or Quake I'd probably like it.

[knexster]

It is really nothing new. Just another extremly big complicated gun that almost noyone has enough pieces for. I like the Red Impact because of its power and versatility. Nice job though. 6/10

[knexguy]

shut up perfect duck is a legend.

[Perfect Duck]

Can't please them all, I suppose.

However, don't feel let down. My twin pistols are built very similarly to Red Impact and carry the same theme of dual-weilding action, on a much smaller scale. I've decided to post them eventually. Here's the preview.

[Givadanger]

I fergot this pic hehe

[knexguy]

post post post post post post post post post post post post post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bruce911]

Sweet post it!

[GreekGuy]

uhhhh, wow, that must be heavy -how long did it take you to built -very creative -Do you know what set gives u gears?

[Perfect Duck]

They're no heavier than paintball guns.
- The ammo belts took an excruciatingly long time to build. The repetitive process almost drove me insane. The rest was easy and fun. (I like building when it's not the same damn thing over and over again!)
- Thanks. I owe inspiration to my earlier K'nexecutioner project, and Perfect Dark.
- Medium gears are an elusive piece that only large sets seem to come with. I never have enough of them myself. Took every last one I had to make the cyclones.

[BLACKROD]

Hehe, took me at least 2 or so hours to build the belt.

[Mad Cat]

What!? Took me like 2 days!

[knexguy]

I made 10 in 2 1/2 hours.

[bowmaster]

As my baby brother would say A-WOHH

[Danny]

i just got a mains powered motor, is there anyway of installing it on this?

[Perfect Duck]

The large, grey worm-gear motor and its counterpart white gear are completely incompatible with this.

[Danny]

ok how about the grey/silver motor?

[Perfect Duck]

Take a good look at the instructable and how it's built, and you tell me. ('All-terrain Trekker' motor is also incompatible)

[Danny]

the reason i was asking is because some motors are slower some are faster and some are stronger

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[Danny]

haha this is sooo flagged, and you flagged me on 1 swear word

[jakee117]

if u want more power for the motor u should just wire the batterys up to a 12 vold or somthing haha

[bruce911]

did not work for me:( i Will try again anyway where do you get those side peg motors?

[Givadanger]

get them in the knex robots sets

[bruce911]

thnx.

[Givadanger]

Im short two gears!!! :( So i make my version of the 16 shot gatlings. what do you guys think? it weighs about 5 pounds and is VERY hard hittin.

[Danny]

hey dude do u have any projects in the making? i think you should make a shotgun!

[sak-j]

Where do you get that black things where the barrels are on????? I dont have those

[Perfect Duck]

Unfortunately, the black bicycle-chain pieces only seem to come in the really large K'nex sets like the roller coasters and 100-model tub kits.

[knexbldr888]

i got 24 of those chainlinks in a red tub

[crazykilla]

well theres spacers and 2 hub cap inside and it stops the marble from rolling out comes out when hit by plunger

[crazykilla]

hey perfect duck do u think this marble gun i made with a mag is a good gun

[Perfect Duck]

It's on a sturdy old-fashioned tube-stick chassis, but the front is original, I'll give it that. Does it have any mechanism at all to stop marbles from just rolling out the front? Also, that open front design reminds me of an attempt at a shotgun I made long ago.

[jomama 22]

Post it plz can't w8

[Darth Trainman]

no

[jomama 22]

do u have to be so negative?

[Darth Trainman]

Of course I do!

[crazykilla]

r u talking to me jomama 22

[jomama 22]

ya i am

[Shmuli9]

Can you use a mains motor in it???? It sounds stupid but I dont have any other type and I could in a 'war' keep 1 position the whole time!!!

[Perfect Duck]

The old-school grey wall-outlet motor with the worm gear and white cog is attached very differently to K'nex models. to motorize things with it require a lot of internal space that the Cyclone doesn't have. Incompatible, unless you can create your own crazy way of retrofitting it on. You're on your own for that, my friend.

[Shmuli9]

I'm getting one of those big motors with two sides turning at once. Do those fit?????Plz I dont know where to get those green motors from. All the sets I've seen them in are way overpriced!!

[sportychelseafan]

i have a classic motor with a short wire would it reach

[Perfect Duck]

I did notice that the motor that came with K'nexosaurus is too short. :( It has six inches of wire, I'm guessing 9 inches of wire is is the minimum.

[sportychelseafan]

damn!!

[Shmuli9]

Also is it possible to be made with nine red cogs instead of 13 and does it NEED the motor with a long lead??

[Perfect Duck]

I tried reducing the number of cogs, but the problem is that the cyclone belt is not very tight to begin with, and I had the system de-rail itself a couple times.

[danymw]

oh,that's huge.its just amazing,when i saw those things i thought its from ut2004...rocket launcher or something like that. well done,make something bigger ;) or put them together :)

[Sypran]

0.0 omfg dude... this is scaring me... now i know who to go to when i need the heavest artillary to beat my freinds at knex wars...

[BLACKROD]

The Cyclone is absolutely amazing. And surprisingly, the red classic motor does work well in it. I can shoot 17 rounds in about 5-6 seconds using the classic motor. That for me is fine. As far as problems go, there was only one for me, power. At first I used one red rubberband on each barrel. When the block was moved, the pin delivered minumum force to the white rod. Insteam of firing out, the rods kind of poured out onto the floor. Then I went back, and put on 2 rubberbands for each barrel. By doing that, the rods shot fine, and I was able to get a good 30 feet. Anyways, I do reccommend this gun to anyone with alot of red gear, and a good classic motor. It's worth the wait to see the

[qwerty123456789]

yo blackrod i made the cyclone with a good working classic motor and it works, but if i but the rams on and pull them back the whole damn thing doesn't move. Do you think you can help me out?

[Perfect Duck]

If it is the triggers themselves refusing to be flipped that are causing the jam, you have the triggers set too far back, where they tend to lock up. Leave them halfway. The less they need to be pushed, the less strain on the motors.

[BLACKROD]

There is also another problem that can cause jams. On the right Side of the Cyclone in the images above, there is a single red gear on the middle of one side. Sometimes while the belt is rotating, the chain is pushed on the side, and the gear doesn't allign with the chain. Instead the chain is under the red gear and stuck. So, you have to manually pull the chain up and reallign it. For me, that has been the most common.

[qwerty123456789]

when are you going to post the twins

[qwerty123456789]

thanks

[sportychelseafan]

do you have to make the knexecutioner 1.02 before you make nthis

[Perfect Duck]

Nope. Each is stand-alone.

[sportychelseafan]

ok thanks

[BLACKROD]

Well, Perfect Duck, tell me if you like it. I felt like making a video, so I did. ENJOY!

[Mad Cat]

Hmm, it's a shame that the video uses the crappy motors. I tried using one of those when I first made this gun, and the barrels didn't even move. So now, I am using Cyber K'nex motors, and they have absolutely no problem at operating the gun. It never jams.

[BLACKROD]

This video shows what your performance will be with a classic motor.

[Perfect Duck]

Oh, that's just awesome! I did indeed enjoy. I was happy enough when you showed me the picture of yours and was going to comment, but then this popped up. Motor's not nearly as fast as mine, but I'm still tickled you got it working. I was getting worried for a while that people with classic motors were wasting their time (mine suck) so... I'll just repeat myself and say that's awesome.

[Mad Cat]

I built it. And what do I think - 11/10. Seriously, it's that good. As to everone, build it if you can!

[mmzdaniel]

how far can it shoot and how fast? (f you can measure the speed of the bullet that is)

[Stealth Raptor]

I built the right handed cyclone for Duck, and when it comes to speed, over a 10-15 ft area, its average velocity was just under 10 meters per second. Obviously, however, it loses velocity very rapidly after leaving the gun.

[mmzdaniel]

thats not very fast.... yet if i had the pieces i would build 2 of those and make my lil bro cry all day lol... im evil!

[Mad Cat]

For me, it goes around 45 feet, which is better than most of my single shot guns. As for speed, all I can tell you is that it hurts when you get shot!

[mmzdaniel]

thats very good... only problem is, i have only 4 chain links lol...

[Mad Cat]

Well, then the only option is to get a rollercoaster...

[mmzdaniel]

forgot to say, why you changed your avatar?

[Mad Cat]

I think it fits more to the name than the other one did. I'll probably change it soon.

[Mad Cat]

Wow, it's actually June 25th, 8:36 AM!

[mmzdaniel]

yeah i guess...

[Perfect Duck]

I haven't got any equipment for measuring meter-per-second bullet velocities. If I did, I could use the projectile weight and measure kinetic energy in joules, which I've always been wanting to do. How much inertia a rod is bestowed is a measure of how much air it can push out of the way as it travels. All I can say is it's got the most range of any K'nex machine gun to date. Okay, I'm going to rant. No matter how hard you throw a tiny styrofoam cup, I can guarantee you can't throw it 15 feet. Why? It doesn't have enough mass to keep its speed as the air stops it. The same holds true for K'nex and other lightweight plastic projectiles. Power does improve range, but there is diminishing returns. Doubling the strengh may only add 5 or so feet of maximum range. Aerodynamics reduce air drag, so I'm going to very soon make some flighted rods to really answer your question.

[llovaen]

you have a camera, no?
somewhere it should give you the fps
all you need is that, and a backdrop with marks at equal intervals so you can measure the progress of the projectile from frame to frame
then you can get the velocity using the simple equation: velocity = distance/time
doable?

[Perfect Duck]

I'll definately look into that if I ever make a longer video for the Cyclone.

[Perfect Duck]

Do you know what this means!? Means I succeeded. :D Do you have as much trouble as me trying to load the 19th barrel without the first one triggering? It's possible but, I normally just load 18.

[Mad Cat]

Um, sometimes when I try to put the rods in the barrels after I loaded all of the barrels, the trigger nearest to the trigger flipper gets set off prematurely. Like you said, I sometimes just load 18, and yes, you did succeed! I don't have enough pieces for two though.

[knex hater hater]

lol,evry one is talking bout vid games,shows were all nerds. Ok so when is the sniper gonna be out because im looking forward to it, i need to shoot somthing

[Perfect Duck]

If you're talking about the Haas multistage rifle, there were too many un-solveable problems with the way I had it. Will take a radical rebuild before I have one that doesn't blow itself apart 1/10th the time. I haven't given up faith in the concept, though!

[knex hater hater]

hmmm,looks like im in for the wait if it even is going to be out.

[BLACKROD]

Ok, I counted pieces, and I was surely afraid I wouldnt't have enough, but it turns out I have more than douuble the red gears. Well, I'm beginning, now! Excellent gun by the way.

[Danny]

perfect duck i need a respsonce to this asap can you use yellow gears for this becuas eive found a bid for 17 yellow gears and i dont want it to end

[Perfect Duck]

The problem is that the gear-teeth extend further beyond, and it's towards the extrusian of the center hub. Only one side of yellow gears can carry gear-chains. For the side-peg motors, 5 of 12 gears must be red. For the classic-style, 4 of 11 must be red.

[knexguy]

im gonna get 20 kg of knex off ebay, then build like 4 of these so my friends and i can have a huge battle. therefore, a piece list would be VERY helpful.

[Perfect Duck]

I could never possibly have the patience to sit there and build 4 of those massive ammo belts. Heck, I had Stealth Raptor copy my first one for me. Also, Cyclone does take a tedious time to reload. It's great for show, but impractical in a K'nex fight (Unless you use something else, and keep Cyclone loaded and hidden to fall back to). For less time and parts, you could equip everyone with both a Red Impact and a single-shot pistol instead, which I reccomend.

[gibbo_gunner2496]

im sorry but you are truely spoilt to have so much knex. having enough for one cyclone is fine but for two.

but anyway amazing gun !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Knex Rules]

ive probs got enough peices but i have a lack in chainlinks as ive never bought a rollercoaster, too much room =(

[Shmuli9]

you can get them dead cheap on ebay

[agent harmsy]

yeah, i did that, u can get like 100 for $2.00!

[crestind]

Same basic mechanism, but this is definitely a new standard! Nice job on the gun and a detailed Instructable. Can't build it though :/ That dual-wield is pretty sweet lol!! I always dual-wield in Halo... but then I always get killed. I should switch to nades and be less random. FAV!

[mmzdaniel]

sh!T you got halo 2? on Xbox or PC? oh and THIS GUN ROCKS!

[Pat Sowers]

I beet halo 1 and 2 on legendary in one sitting with my friend.

[mmzdaniel]

i beat halo 1 on heroic and beat half of it on legendary, im playing on multiplayer right now...

[Pat Sowers]

have fun

[mmzdaniel]

thanks, oh and got any tips for legendary? whats the best way to pass the second generator in two betrayals? i always get killed by the flood dudes...

[Pat Sowers]

Use the pistol (not plasma pistol) and the shotgun dont use plasma grenades because they suicide bomb you.

[mmzdaniel]

i just finished it on legendary, thanks to you. but i did use the plasma grenades, and usually they didn't kill me.... only the elites charge at me when i stick a grenade on their faces lol... and about the flood, the shotgun was incredible, and very useful.... thanks!

[Pat Sowers]

No problem

[crestind]

I use the spray'n'pray technique, cause I'm kind of used to having up to 1000 rounds per MG on this other game I play lol I'm decent (I hope) though.

[mmzdaniel]

haha that should be fun... by the way am i the only one afraid from the flood? i mean, they are parasitic and scary lol...

[JamesRPatrick]

Yes, you are the only one afraid of the flood. They do as much damage as one SMG shot to the foot.

[mmzdaniel]

i dont care about the damage, they are ugly and parasitic and they got those scary noises lol...

[JamesRPatrick]

No offense, but I'd just like to say,"Ahh! I'm being attacked by an overgrown pimple!"

[crestind]

Only play at friends' house :( PS2 I'm really good at that snowy level with all the levels in Halo 2 (Containment I think?)

[mmzdaniel]

luckey you got friends with an Xbox.... i wish i could play halo 2, and soon i might buy an Xbox 360 so ill get to play halo 3 muahahahaha

[knex hater hater]

ahah,i have halo 2 and a xbox,and a game cube,ps2,psp,cpu,and a gamboy(yaasaaaayyy)

[agent harmsy]

well u all suck, cause i have it on PC!!!!

[Rage]

he he, I have A wii, xbox, xbox 360, gamecube, ps2, nintendo Ds, and 2 computers!!

[Danny]

yall shut the fuck up bout xbox ur makin me wanna play guitar hero

[Perfect Duck]

Like, seriously. I keep getting messages that people are commenting on my Cyclone, and I come over and it's just more Halo. This is an Instructable, not a fansite chat room. RELEVANT COMMENTS PLEASE kthx.

[Rage]

My bad

[smidge147]

hey perfect duck i think you should try to make a sniper or a uber powerful gun instead of the machineguns cus i think you would be good at it!lol

[smidge147]

http://www.instructables.com/id/E9M5SNN7FNET9K4LDE/

[Stealth Raptor]

And what does Halo have to do with the cyclone?

[GreekGuy]

YOO I have halo 1 & 2 for Computer, I have live too My name is Ducky Man, I think. Send a friend request

[Shadow64]

Fantastic gun! to bad i dont have the chainlink peices.....

[crestind]

You are so pro with Knex... I wish I had the pieces for this so badly :(

[sak-j]

i'm not gonna build it but this thing is sooooo cool

[Rage]

I wish I lived in america.(sigh) then I could order the parts i need on knex.com ):(x2)

[smidge147]

if u live in england get ur parts from there!!!!

http://www.knexusergroup.org.uk/acatalog/knex-parts-guides.html

[Mad Cat]

Yesss!!! Of course i'm gonna make this. I hope I have enough grey connectors to make 2...

[Whaleman]

woah!!!!!!!! PS:where the hell do you get all of those pieces?

[Darth Trainman]

*cries*

[Mepain]

Are you going to post a "parts needed page?" If so, I might make two!! But of course I need to make sure I have enough pieces. I thought you said that each bullet had individual recoil springs? Would it have hepled powerwise if they did?

[Perfect Duck]

In Step 1, I listed off what supplies the ammo belt will really deplete - if you can handle 2x of what's listed there, you should be able to handle the rest.

[Perfect Duck]

They wouldn't have been limited to just 2 rubber bands per barrel, and it would have used a grey-rod as firing pin. So yes, lots of power. The barrels extended even further out from the weapon. After making a couple rounds, I figured that it was getting a little rediculous (Heavy!!) so I scrapped the idea.

[ewilhelm]

Any chance of posting a video so we can see it in action?

[Perfect Duck]

There are a couple clips of the 2.1 version in the forum topic - http://www.instructables.com/forum/T67RBSZF23Z3ABI/?comments=all#CRF4Z7CF2ZML5CI

But I have yet to make a really cool video showing it off like I did for the first K'nexecutioner.

[captianchase]

nice

[flaming_idiot_dude]

How long does it take to reload?

[Perfect Duck]

Each barrel is loaded like a typical one-shot K'nex gun, so fully loading the thing can be tedious. It takes as long as you can imagine.

[Easy Button]

i shall make this

[Shadow64]

Looks ACE how far does it shoot

[Danny]

wow sh1t this gun is cool!