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This is part of both the "let it glow" challenge and the robot challenge, so please vote for either/or category that you see fitting if you enjoyed/liked this instructable. Remember, voting is different than giving it a good rating.

First off, this is a Collaboration between me Guyfrom7up and Gmoon

Gmoon did all of the programming, debugging, etc.

Guyfrom7up did all of the hardware, PCB, etc.

What is Lucid Dreaming? Lucid Dreaming is when you are sleeping and dreaming and that you are aware that your are asleep and that you are dreaming, yet you don't wake up. This can be great, giving you full control of your dreams, jumping off of buildings, going into space, whatever your mind can create.

The Lucid Dream Machine is a pair of glasses that you wear while you are sleeping. About 4 hours into your sleep the AVR microcontroller pulse LEDs that shine through your eyelids. This half wakes you up. The flashing lights helps you become aware (in your sleep) that your are sleeping and dreaming, in doing so you become more likely to be able to control your dreams.

Our Collaboration give you the Lucid Dream Machine.

Sorry, but to watch a video you will have to download it, for some reason the video won't work on both youtube and metacafe.
(gmoon: I tweaked the video and uploaded to my account... I need to do this for all my videos, also.)

 
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Loopedfroot1 month ago
Is this real life :o
Build43436 years ago
If anyone has tried this please tell us what happened to insure that its safe!!

Yes! It works! But... no magic! close the eyes, turn on the machine and go to the matrix is false! This "machine" do 5% of work, the other 95% is your mind learning the work.

The leds call your mind for attention only. Several months are request to you "wakeup" in a lucid dream.

My first lucid dream comes after 4 months usind everyday. Now, after 2 years, I do not need the machine. I can wakeup in a lucid dream by my self (when sleeping sure). But the sound around me is distractions and do dificults to still dreaming.

In the dream is very dificult still lucid, everytime I lost the control.

Yes! It works! But... no magic! close the eyes, turn on the machine and go to the matrix is false! This "machine" do 5% of work, the other 95% is your mind learning the work.

The leds call your mind for attention only. Several months are request to you "wakeup" in a lucid dream.

My first lucid dream comes after 4 months usind everyday. Now, after 2 years, I do not need the machine. I can wakeup in a lucid dream by my self (when sleeping sure). But the sound around me is distractions and do dificults to still dreaming.

In the dream is very dificult still lucid, everytime I lost the control.

Bigev Build43435 years ago
What's the worst that could happen? The mask could fall off and choke you i guess, but otherwise it's risk free.
Maybe epileptic fits. I dunno
The lights aren't that bright of flashy.
 As a person with epilepsy any blinking light causes this. If you read in the agreement with Yahoo within the email account even they tell you there is chance of epileptic seizures. Just surfing your inbox can cause this. Best to not offer an opinion on something unless you know what you are talking about when this could cause harm. ANd really you could reprogram your mind with this device this type of stuff should not be allowed to be on this site. There is a reason there is an FDA even though they are not perfect.
You could cause yourself to be stuck in certain parts of sleep patterns and not fully get out like when you are driving.

"Any blinking light" will NOT cause epileptic seizures, and even if it did, that would COMPLETELY obviate this point, as this would be no more problematic than ANYTHING else.

(And my degree in neuroscience trumps your psych degree.)

Snap.

I respect your input, and give due respect to your epileptic knowledge, but on the subject of this not being on the site I must disagree. Instructables is an open community of makers where any idea, no matter how unique or dangerous, is respected. A bit of discretion must be exercised when a project may be potentially dangerous, but Instructables usually leaves that up to the individual readers.

In short:
If you know you have epilepsy, then you should know better than to strap blinking lights to your face. Further, I don't believe that it is possible to get stuck in a particular stage of sleep.

TL;DR
Use common sense, I want proof of mind-stickage
You ever hear of hypnosis? Well if you go into other states of consciousness and are not properly taken out of those states by a professional person who is trained well you can slip back in said altered state. I have actually a degree actually a Master's degree in psychology so I think I know what I am speaking about .
Use common sense wow and how would common sense have anything to do with being educated about subjects. I love the internet everyone thinks they know everything or they can look it up on WIKI..lets just close down all all the schools and call everyone equal because they have common sense.
Mind stickage  you sound stupid and frankly some people may not realize ( and now I am speaking to you for instance ) what this machine could do and so they could promote seizures and get up the next day and have a car accident and kill someone. So this isn't a trite subject so grow up.

Having a masters degree does not a master make.

Your degree in psychology in no way makes you an authority on epilepsy or seizures. These are the domain of neurologists and neurosurgeons. And since lucid dreaming is considered a valid therapeutic treatment for many psychological conditions, i highly doubt you actually have a degree in psychology. A simple warning about the possible dangers to epileptics is all that was necessary to include in this instructable.

"lets just close down all all the schools and call everyone equal because they have common sense." <-- Haunted_lady, could you please explain this to me, are you saying that people should not be treated equal? Also the tone you are putting off sounds a little condescending does it not? Thank you for your time, Sculpur.
I'd like to make a few sterile observations:

1.  I find it highly ironic that the 'Highly Trained Psychology Major' is calling other people stupid. As any educated 'Highly Trained Psychology Major' knows... calling others 'stupid' causes most people to stop listening, and stop caring. This is natural human behavior.

2.  It's also ironic that the 'Highly Trained Psychology Major' doesn't use proper spelling, grammar, or syntax.
 I never called him stupid I said he was acting stupid.
I never said I was highly trained. I admit I do not use my best writing skills on the internet, if I did most of you folks would not understand what you were reading. Hell I used my worst skills there and you did ot understand what you were reading you still messed it up  did you not.  SO there you go my point exactly!
I are a maojr in hallucinogenz and dose have wors effecs on yuo
Wow what language is that?
Haunted_Human - What he's doing is deliberately colloquial. Here's a definition for you straight from the precious dictionary -

Colloquial: conversational, informal referring to types of speech not on a formal level. Refers to a style used in the oral exchange of ideas, opinions, etc.: an easy conversational style, without formality, without strict attention to set forms, unceremonious: an informal manner of speaking; it describes the ordinary, everyday language of cultivated speakers.

I'm wondering if you're capable of leaving positive comments... You seem to enjoy hurting others.

I have just spent the past five minutes laughing.

I LOVE YOU. Aren't you cute.
I take back my comment on the siezure thing, but please do not bag out the author for posting something he has done and wishes to share. It's a nice piece of electronics, and the science behind it is also interesting.



I've an idea; if you really want to continue this, then how about we swap sides of the argument? That way I'll really see your side of things, even if I don't have a full degree or understanding.
I don't want to resurrect a dead flame war, but I feel obligated to correct misinformation when I stumble across it.

It's a bad idea to take someone's credentials at face value on the internet. An anonymous person who claims to hold a master's degree in psychology could just be a cat lady who took Inception a little too seriously. I'm not attacking haunted_lady's credentials, I'm just giving a cautionary note.

Fact: the percentage of people who have photosensitive epilepsy, who will be triggered by lights blinking slowly, is extremely low. A television is more dangerous than this instructable, and televisions are available for mainstream sale. I'm sure you aren't organizing a door to door campaign to ban the use of decorative lights around the holidays.

These lights are not going to hypnotize you into sleep patterns that catch back up with you in the afternoon when you're driving home from work. At worst, they may contribute to incidents of sleepwalking in individuals who are predisposed to it. OTC sleeping pills are just as dangerous, though.
Who cares if it's safe? It's science!!!
Are you GLaDOS or what? ^_^
A bit.
Anways, I think that the prgress of Science can't be stopped because of dangers too!
mickydeejr3 months ago

thirty dollars it does not work

Suraj Grewal3 months ago
Try mounting some bright leds on the bed side, pointing towards your face.
alcurb3 months ago

You might consider a chin strap so that the mask doesn't end up tangled up around your toes. I'm a bit skeptical about the floating LEDs above your eyes. Do those LEDs poke your eyes when you turn over your pillow?

The assumption that "The flashing lights helps you become aware (in your sleep) that your are sleeping and dreaming" is a huge leap. It takes a trained mind to achieve such consciousness.

INCEPTION....!!!!!!

ashnman23 months ago

I need to comment.

1st off, I love this instructable.

I did however read the comments. It was quite humorous.

Ooops....I just realized these comments were a few years ago. So I shall keep my mouth shut and not stir up the pot again.

I think this is a great idea, and If I ever have some free time Im going to make one of these. I have been Lucid dreaming for years.....But it comes and goes. I have not had it happen for a while....And if there was a way to induce this. O man, Im excited. Hope it helps.....Last time I had Lucid Dreams. I was learning to Fly...LMAO.....People need to educate themselves a bit on Lucid dreaming before they try it tho....And one of the best places to get info on it is on WIKI.....Not the library...As long as u remember everything u read, whether on internet or in an old book in the library...U still must take everything with a grain of salt as they say..Just because someone wrote it does not mean its 100% accurate.

meow

Awesome lucid dream thing! *Gives thumbs up*

This is a great start. Next step is to coordinate two or more lucid dream machines with computer connections and allow very simple communication between dreamers; a multi-player dream game, if you will.
 
The ingredients for multi-player lucid dream connectivity are:
 
1.    A lucid dream cuing device such as a dream mask or audio device with dreamer response detection and interpretation.
2.    Computer software (LD program) that has two-way, real-time communication with the cuing device.
3.    Computer software (LD program extension) that has two-way, real-time communication with a remote host site.
4.    A multi-player host website program that receives input from the LD programs and issues messages to them.
 
Here are a few scenarios that could be fun for dreamers in a multi-player environment:
 
1.    Two players register and log onto the LD multi-player website, selecting the other player to communicate with that night and which player is to be the guide player (first dreamer cued). The respective local LD programs monitor the eye movements during the sleep of the players and upon REM detection send a message to the website that the respective dreamer is in REM; the website host program waits for both players to reach REM, then the host sends a command to the local LD software to signal the guide dreamer via audio/visual cue that she is dreaming. When (if) she becomes lucid, this lucid dreamer now signals (via eye movement) the mask/program to stop cueing and, in addition, send a message to the host program to notify the other dreamer that he is dreaming by audio/visual cue (could even be a pre-recorded audio cue in the guide’s own voice). The signal to the recipient’s to become lucid is now coming directly from the guide dreamer and may carry more meaning than a neutral cue (and lots more fun). For those folks with an interest in mutual dreaming, this may prove also to be a useful initiator for such a dream, coordinating the timing for lucid dream sharing.        
 
2.    A lucid dream race: players log on and join the race, then go to sleep.  The host site waits until all the respective LD local programs indicate REM state for all the players (hopefully at some point all REM’s coincide). The host site sends commands to all the local programs to cue all the dreamers more or less at the same time. The dreamers, upon becoming lucid, signal to stop the cue and, in addition, send a message to the host site that they are lucid.   The winner of the race is recorded on the host site and the players can view the results--just for fun, of course, but competition can have a strong motivational effect, as many psychologists know.
 
3.    This multi-player scenario would require a mask with various colored lights or audio cues and dreamer feedback variability.  The dreamers, upon both becoming lucid, signal different eye movements to the other dreamer (via the local LD programs’ connection to the host website) which result in varied cues, the meaning of which is agreed upon beforehand when the players register for this ‘game.’ A “hello” signal from one dreamer can result in a ‘blue’ cue to the other; an “I am flying” signal from the other dreamer could result in a ‘yellow’ cue to the first, and so on. Audio messages could be used as well.
 
4.    Masks or other cuing devices with multiple cuing options such as varied colors could also be used to enable more than two dreamers to send messages to the entire group in the same session. Dreamers sign up for the night’s session and assign themselves a color cue or audio cue. As the dreamers become lucid, the host software sends that dreamer’s cue sign to the rest of the group. A dreamer, for example, recognizes the ‘red’ cue as “Mike has just joined us” and the ‘blue’ cue as “Sally’s lucid now too.”          
 
While the lucid dreamer communication described here is very rudimentary, the exciting thing is that such dream games as outlined above are technologically feasible right now. We are at the point with inter-dream communication that Alexander Bell was when he spoke “Mister Watson, come here! I need you!" And we saw where that led.
 
But wait there's more!
Have you ever put a needle with a styrofoam packaging peanut on it in between your teeth and touched a moving turntable ,with a record on it, with the point of the needle? The result is the song on the record plays in your head. I don't know about you but I have dreams where the words of people talking (irl) within ear shot of me while I'm sleeping has been incorporated into my dream. So you could maybe have a tiny speaker in your mouth and have people talk to you. I also heard (pun not intended) that I talk A LOT in my sleep so you could possibly communicate in your sleep while doing this "race".

I also wonder would the track vary from dreamer to dreamer, because how you may imagine a cat may be different than how you imagine a cat. A hitch in this idea is that in MY dream I would most certainly always win because it is MY dream.
Over all good concept. Too bad divergent isn't till another 100 some years :-).
zagnut3 months ago

has anyone tried this? if so, please comment...

and speaking of comments. haunted_lady favorited http://www.instructables.com/id/Make-a-pair-of-Au.... no negative input from her there. fascinating.

redrooster3 months ago

DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!!

dlminton3 months ago

My goodness, where to begin…I guess the first place is
thanks for the cool instructable. Nice but the LEDs in the eyes bit dose needs attention. I’m sure there would be no permanent damage but it would not feel good either. Second the person in the first few pages of comments that calms to have a “Masters degree in psychology” It seems to me you have a Masters in PSYCHOTIC instead of psychology. I only have a bachelors of science in electronics But I still could have expressed my opinion in a MUCH more receptive way than the flame you where thronging! Please do enlighten us on the university you got your “Degree” from so everyone knows to steer clear of it. It seems to me you wasted a lot of time, effort and money on your “degree” or maybe you just graduated at the bottom of your class.

For those wondering how to get the AVR programmed a good
plase to start would be http://arduino.cc/
lots of good people and info.

KateinNH3 months ago

Also, I can't imagine that having a blinking light flashing on your retina all night and over-stimulating your ocular nerve is such an awesome idea either.

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