Step 45: Vertical Jigsaw Lift

This lift was invented by Tornado96 as a prototype. I built upon his original idea and made the exit track and motor connection for my ball machine, Citadel. The first picture shows the final version. There is also a counterweight to assist the motor in moving the jigsaw part up. 

Click here for the update video that shows this lift working. I am going to make instructions for this lift, but until then the picture above is from Citadel's construction album.

There is also a different version of this lift, made by mathsboy314. He calls it a puzzle lift. Here are instructions and the video!
<p>New Lift!</p><p>Double Jigsaw Lift! </p><p><a href="http://knexflux.net/instructions/double-jigsaw-lift/">http://knexflux.net/instructions/double-jigsaw-lif...</a></p>
<p>Cool lift! It looks to me like the time saved by making two jigsaws has an unwanted side effect of requiring gears to slow down the lift. Then again, complexity is admired.</p><p>Also, did you create the website?</p>
<p>Thank you! The extra gearing wouldn't be necessary if using a 12V motor which I actually highly recommend on this one :P</p><p>As to Knex Flux, it uses the SMF forum software with a custom theme made by me and the instructions engine is also 100% self-written, also featuring things like importing instructions from instructables!</p><p>Overall we (That is, the admins) created that site to have a dedicated website for all knexers to unite, thus any feature requests for it, no matter how big or small, are always welcome. And OFC we hope for the site to take off, you could do your part and join + contribute to it! :D</p>
<p>Also, I posted about it here: <a href="http://www.instructables.com/community/General-purpose-Knex-forum/">http://www.instructables.com/community/General-pur...</a></p>
<p>I'm working on making a hand for the end of an arm lift. Here's my progress: </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szd0svTT-e4" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szd0svTT-e4</a></p><p>It's currently no so reliable and swings a lot. The height increase is so small it's practically an element.</p><p>I'm about to enter my final year of high school, so I probably wont have time to make this a worthwhile lift. Feel free (open to all) to use this concept and take the credit.</p>
<p>A new lift!</p><p>http://www.instructables.com/id/Sliding-Arm-Lift-a-knex-ball-machine-lift/</p>
<p>Another new lift!</p><p>http://www.instructables.com/id/Tube-Claw-Lift-a-knex-ball-machine-lift/</p>
<p>New lift!</p><p>http://www.instructables.com/id/Ferris-Wheel-Lift-a-knex-ball-machine-lift/</p>
<p>I built this lift... I used orange track clips instead of the gray connectors on the blue rods on the helix... the balls go up much smoother.. awesome design.</p>
<p>That sounds like a nice addition, thanks for building!</p>
<p>correction ... oops.. I meant white rods... getting color blind in my old age.</p>
<p>The 2 lifts from Revolution :)</p><p><a href="http://www.instructables.com/id/Floor-Double-Arm-Lift-a-knex-ball-machine-lift/" rel="nofollow">http://www.instructables.com/id/Floor-Double-Arm-L...</a></p><p>http://www.instructables.com/id/Sandros-Wheel-Lift-a-knex-ball-machine-lift/</p>
<p>Added! (They're located in already-existing steps)</p>
<p>Yay, thanks!</p>
<p>New lifts</p><p><a href="http://www.instructables.com/id/knex-ladder-lift/" rel="nofollow">http://www.instructables.com/id/knex-ladder-lift/</a></p><p><a href="http://www.instructables.com/id/knex-jump-arm-lift/" rel="nofollow">http://www.instructables.com/id/knex-jump-arm-lift...</a></p>
<p>I was too late O_O</p>
<p>New lift:</p><p>http://www.instructables.com/id/EQVP22RHVS19501/</p>
<p>For some reason, whenever I try to make a lift other than a chain lift, it DOESN'T WORK. And I am getting VERY bored of chain lifts.</p>
<p>Have you tried helix lifts or arm lifts? There are many choices, so at least one of them will have to work for you. I agree that chain lifts get boring, haha.</p>
would it be possible to set the connected arm lift at a 45 degree angle?
<p>Reaching 45 degrees would be difficult due to the formation of the ball holders in relation to the arms. Looking back on the multiple arm lift (step 30, my design) I think it is geometrically impossible to achieve 45 degrees or higher while keeping all arms the same size and shape, and keeping the parallel-like pattern.</p><p>You could ditch the parallel-like pattern and try something like the Right-Handed Arm lift (step 31), as it has consistently designed arms, then you could modify it to 45 degrees, but this complicates the gear system.</p>
Yeah, you're right, I've been trying for days now and not much progress. It's impossible to get the arms to tilt enough to tip the ball onto the next one.
<p>I had the same problem when trying to make a staircase of Small Rotating Arm Lifts (Step 17). I should probably try a smaller angle...</p>
<p>some new lifts in here: </p><p>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBZBZ7akolc</p>
<p>There was ACTUALLY instructions posted for the stepper lift before Retrograde:</p><a href="http://www.instructables.com/id/Knex_Inverter_lift/" rel="nofollow">Link</a>
<p>I think those instructions are incomplete.</p>
<p>I know this is a late reply, but I actually did use that link for the main structure (though never could find it after!) The problem was that it mentioned nothing about entrance and exit paths or the crank mechanism at the top. Those all had to be improvised...thanks again to <a href="http://www.instructables.com/member/knexpert%2310829476/" rel="nofollow" style="font-size: 15.0px;">knexpert#10829476</a> for making better instructions of the Stepper lift from my Retrograde pictures. :-)</p>
Too bad bezempje deleted his account and ibles :-( This look like a cool lift/shooter.I'm gonna try to build this from the pics, if I succeed I will post an ible on it...
I'm sure people will be glad to see an Ible of this. :-)
YAY!!!!! I rebuilt it perfectly!! :-D One Q - What height do you think this should reach? At the moment I seem to get 1 metre + in height.... but I have like 4 rubber bands on the end and the motor does not have enough torque so I am yet still tinkering around. I have also modified some parts of the shooter. <br> <br>I can post if you would like, let me know and i'll begin a Ible if so. :-)
That height sounds good. What type of balls does it use? You may want to ask Sandro before posting, as he has a similar version, I'm not sure if he was posting instructions of his. If this comment has any grammar errors then sorry, I'm having a hard time reading right now (blind spot)...
Sandro said his mechanism is completely different to bezempjes so I can post. Also it uses the newer K'nex balls: <a href="http://www.knexusergroup.org.uk/acatalog/knex-hint-R4.html" rel="nofollow">these ones</a>. I'm gonna change it round though. It seems at the moment the 2 motors shown above do not have enough torque that is required, to make it worth building as it seems to be getting very very low heights. So instead im going to try a 12V motor and tinker one in. That ought to do it! :D (*late comment)
I'm sure bezempjes also works with the old style knex balls. <br>And as you can see, my version works almost entirely different, so please don't hesitate to make instructions when you're finshed! :D <br>Does it really reach more than 1 metre height? That's quite a lot, much more than I expected ;) That's probably the biggest difference between yours and mine: the height. Mine is more designed to attach in a white floor so it can shoot the balls from a lower floor to a higher floor (or something like that)
I remember bezempje saying that his works with older balls but they don't reach a good enough height.
Yeah older style balls are heavier.
Eyup, which is why I like them better. Only problem with them is the holes.
Ha, sometimes when I was building the white floors of my ball machines, the balls didn't roll because they landed on the hole &gt;.&lt;
Yeah, they also get stuck on rods. I mean, the odds must be rare, but it happens often. o.o
<p>Far too often.</p><p>And it sucks if, because of a rod sticked into the whole, and you notice it to late, some gearing gets destroyed in a lift &gt;.&lt;</p>
<p>Yeah, that's bad. :-P</p>
<p>ever thought about using that phenomina for making a lift, though? :P</p>
<p>No, it would have to line up every time, lol.</p>
<p>This would work on a ball machine with no turns... such as the Quark.</p>
1 metre = manually, I am yet configuring round what to do as the motor keeps clicking since it is under a lot of torque. 4 rubber bands = 1 metre+ in height so I am trying to get a 12V motor since the torque is really high <br> <br>BUT.... <br> <br>Since this lift is made to fit a yellow rod scale and the 12V motor is for a blue rod scale, I am having a hard time tinkering one in :-/. The floor would have to be quite high for this lift (like the one in your ball machine: Euphoria it is a red rod raised off the ground). <br> <br>IF I am successful, it will be in my next ball machine :-)
Yeah, back then people used yellow rod boxes, now most ball machines have red rod boxes. <br>But I'm sure you'll find a way to attach the 12v motor :D <br>Can't wait for your ball machine!
Nice! And a late comment is better than no comment. :-)
Just finished another lift! <br>http://www.instructables.com/id/Jump-Lift-a-knex-ball-machine-lift/

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