Introduction: The Saltwater Etch Process

This is a one-off process to produce one printed circuit board by removing unwanted copper by electrolysis in a saltwater solution.

I shall illustrate the process by etching and building a board for 18-pin PIC (for the PC16F54, but any 18 pin PIC will fit in it) in the figure. It has to plug into my breadboard and accept the programming signals from my PIC programmer (just go to and look at it).

To avoid battling with signal conflicts, the two programming pins shall not be brought to the breadboard. To play around with the clock frequency, the crystal shall be made pluggable. The Master clear signal will not be brought out.

These decisions mean a board with two .1" pitch connectors, one with 13 connections and the other with five connections, one pin spaced apart from the rest.

This is a tutorial intended for the absolute beginner, and almost every step shall be illustrated. I've even included a video of the etching process.

Step 1: Decide How Large the Board Has to Be

From the diagram, the side that plugs into the breadboard has 13 connections, and the holes in the bb are spaced 0.1 inch apart. So we need at least 1.3 inches to accommodate 13 pins.

Say one and a half inches, a nice figure. Take a piece of copper clad board larger than 1.5 inches a side. Draw a line at one and a half inches.

Step 2: Score a Line on the Copper

Hold your ruler or straightedge firmly down on the board. Hold a knife lightly and draw across the line many times.

After some time, there will be a gouge on the copper, dividing it into two.

If you bear down with the knife, chances are that it might wander and cut the board deeply where you do not want it cut - and you will be looking ruefully down on your ruined PCB stock. Be patient. Being patient has its own virtues, as life will invariably teach you.

Step 3: Make That Line a Deeper Groove

Now, you can take the ruler away and with a little more pressure on the knife, go over the line a few more times. It will be guided by the cut, and you need a groove on that side.

Then at each edge, mark the plain surface of the board and draw a line there, too, exactly on the other side.

Step 4: Score the Other Side

Now you need a groove on the other side of the laminate, too.

You will have a board with grooves on both the sides, and bending it with the fingers will be sufficient to cause it to break neatly at this line.

This is the copper side, with a deep groove.

Step 5: Groove on the Plain Side

This is the plain side of the laminate, with that deep groove.

Step 6: Break It Apart

If you look at the edge, you will see that the two grooves on the top and bottom of the sheet has made it weak at the line and it will break easily.

Step 7: The Cut Piece of PCB Laminate

So we have cut the laminate to about one and a half inches. It is actually a bit more than that, and that is for allowances in finishing.

It will need to be sanded down to make those edges smooth and that will take away a bit of material.

Step 8: Decide How Large It Has to Be

Now we have to decide how large the board has to be on the other dimension.

We need the two connectors, the PIC, the crystal, and some capacitors and one resistor.

Arranging them all on the board, it seems that about 2" will be sufficient.

Step 9: Clean the Board

Remove rough edges of the board using a sandpaper (Or go out and rub it on a level rough cement surface).

Clean the copper surface using an abrasive cleaning pad - the one I use is intended for use in the kitchen, and copper is toxic so do not let your wife or mum relocate it to the kitchen after you have used it - it would also be a good idea not to borrow the one in the kitchen for this purpose.

Step 10: The Cleaned Board

I have cleaned about two inches of the board. The board will be cut to size after etching, as the extra length serves as a handle to hold the board.

The cleaned board will have a rough surface due to the scratching action of the abrasive pad, and this helps the board retain the etch resist better.

Step 11: Apply Etch Resist

Now you paint the area with some etch resist.

It can be any paint - it has to hold together under water, that's all. Permanent marker comes in an easy to apply form, and that is what I use.

You can use nail polish, if you are lucky enough to have a girlfriend and she doesn't mind your spending time hunched over bits of board and components.

You need a thorough thin coat, one which can be scratched away in a thin line.

A thick coat is likely to pull away in flakes when you attempt to score lines on it.

Step 12: Mark the Position of the Component Leads

Now, you have to mark the position of the leads of the major components. It is best to use the actual component itself as the template.

I have clamped the 16F54 to the board with two clipodile crocs. Mark the position of every pin, and you can lift each alligator in turn to mark underneath it.

Step 13: Draw Around the Pads With a Sharp Instrument

After you have marked the positions of the ic pads, and removed the ic, there will invariably be a few spots where the resist has rubbed off.

Repair them with a dab of the same stuff, and continue on to the next step: outlining the pads.

Use a clear transparent ruler and something with a sharp point to draw the outline of the pads. Refer to the layout you have prepared earlier.

You should think of separating point A from point B by drawing a line between them.

The conventional approach is to link point A to point B by drawing a line connecting them.

My approach helps to keep the maximum amount of copper on board, and minimises the amount of material to be removed.

This is important, otherwise the etching process will be too slow.

Step 14: Draw the Rest of the Circuit In

Once you have completed the pad pattern for the main component, you can draw in the rest of the connections.

I used a bit of veroboard as template for the .1" spacing, and placed the rest of the cuts as per the layout in the diagram.

Step 15: Errors Can Be Corrected

Any changes can be made to the layout at this stage.

Just paint over the scratches, and you have a fresh canvas to practise your art.

Now I decided that the board can be made more compact if the programming socket is relocated, so it was done.

One final necessary step is to place dots of paint so that all pads are connected together - this is necessary for electrolysis.

In my board, the pads are all connected along the left and bottom edges. The scratches in the paint stop short of the edge. They will be cut apart after the etching is completed.

Now the board is ready to be etched.

Step 16: The Etching Tank

You see here my etching tank (stands a while in reverence, head uncovered).

It is plastic, transparent, and has parallel sides, and is large enough to accommodate the board.

Also pictured is the negative electrode. A thick copper wire will do. I've used a straightened paper clip, but it tends to introduce rust into the solution. Almost any metal wire will work here.

Step 17: The Etch Tank Setup

It is useful to have a light shining on the other side of the board, as the light shining through the etched portion will allow you to see the progress of the etch.

I should recommend that you do not set this up close to your keyboard as the salt solution is corrosive if it gets into electronic equipment.

It is also helpful to have a tweety bird watching over you. In fact, I shall disclaim all responsibility if you do not have a twee ...

Step 18: Alternative Tank

In fact, the board proved too big for my regular tank so I used a plastic bag just large enough to hold the board as the etching tank.

This had the advantage of requiring even less of the etching solution.

The etching solution is made by dissolving as much salt as possible in water.

Step 19: Etching the Board

To etch the board, you make up a saturated solution of salt water, make the board positive and immerse it into the solution together with a negative electrode.

A 12 volt supply capable of supplying about 500 milliamperes is sufficient. Wire it in series with a filament lamp, say 12V, 6W, for an indication of the current.

It would take about five minutes for the etching process to be completed. You will be able to watch its process by the light shining through the gaps that open up as the copper gets eaten away.

Bubbles of hydrogen will be seen rising from the negative electrode. If they are rising from the copper, you have connected up the supply backwards and your wire is being eaten up.

To make up the salt solution, you take some water and dissolve as much salt as possible, thus making up a saturated solution. You add a little salt, shake it and watch the salt disappear as it goes into solution. Then you add some more, and it too disappears.

After some of this the salt will stop dissolving however much you shake and mix it, and at this point you have the saturated salt solution you need.

This is a saturated solution of Sodium chloride in Dihydrogen Monoxide. See for more information in handling this potentially hazardous substance.

Step 20: The Etched Board

You see here the board after etching and cleaning. The paint can prove somewhat difficult to remove. You will need to use an appropriate solvent for the etch resist you have used.

Or you can use the abrasive pad to rub the paint off.

It might also be possible to leave the paint on the board, and remove it only where it is needed to solder. In this case it might produce toxic fumes while being soldered.

You will notice that all the traces are joined together, these will have to be cut apart before the board can be tested.

Step 21: Testing the Board for Short Circuits

After the traces are cut apart it is essential to test that there are no connections between adjacent areas.

You may use a 12V lamp connected to the same supply as used for electrolysis for testing. Or the way I do it - use a 12V, 15A supply together with a car headlamp for indication. Small shorts that used to be there get vapourised, and if that lamp lights up, boy, that really IS a short circuit.

For clearing the short circuits just run the sharp point of a knife through the lines. Angle it one way in one pass, and the other way in the next pass, and any copper still in there will just lift and crumble away.

Step 22: Drill Holes

Holes have been drilled to accommodate the sockets for the crystal and the programming interface.

Step 23: The Sockets

The figure shows two views of a turned pin integrated circuit socket. It is made of pins, machined from bar stock, molded into plastic.

We need to liberate the pins from the plastic. Heat the pin carefully until the plastic softens (but does not melt) and pull the pin free. We need seven of those pins.

Step 24: Crystal Socket

Then you cut their tails off and insert them into the holes and solder. You have a compact socket, with the PCB itself being part of the assembly.

I have a closeup of the crystal mounting so that you can see the details.

It is possible to grind away some of the rear end of those pins in order to reduce height. The part which actually makes contact is the spring inserted inside the hollow pin, and you can grind away quite a lot of material without damage to the internal working parts of the pin sockets.

Step 25: Mount the Components

The components have been soldered on to the board:

The seven pins making up crystal and programming sockets.

Two capacitors around the crystal

A 10K resistor pulling up the MCLR line to Vdd

A supply decoupling capacitor across Vss and Vdd

Two links have been soldered into place, and one more has to be fitted.

The lands for fitting the integrated circuit have been coated with solder prior to fitting it in position.

Step 26: Mount the Integrated Circuit

The ic is mounted last of all, in order to minimise chances of damage to it.

It is first placed in proper position and one corner pin heated with the soldering iron. Since there is a small amount of solder on the board, this melts and holds the ic in position.

Then the diagonally opposite pin is soldered, after making any slight adjustments in position as needed.

With the two corners soldered, the ic will be held firmly in place and so the rest of the leads are soldered.

This completes assembly of the board, and it may be tested by loading a "LED Blink" program or something.

I have soldered a Microchip PIC16F54 on this board, but this board will work with any eighteen pin PIC as well.

Some of the more advanced chips permit using the MCLR pin as an input so this might also have to be brought out to the edge.

Step 27: The Completed Board

The board is now complete.

It is compared with the original plan. I have made a few changes, mainly because it was simpler to route the traces that way.

It is essential to record changes because of the possibility of confusion later when using the board.

In this case, some traces pass under the chip and it is not easy to ascertain the order of the signals at the edge just by looking.

Documentation is essential and will take the form of signal names written right on top of the signal lines.

To make a second board you have to do all this all over again - This process is recommended only if you are making a single piece of a circuit, for which conventional prototyping methods are inconvenient.

I hope all this has been useful to someone out there.

I hope to be seeing a few projects on hand carved, salt water etched boards here in instructables in the near future.

Have Fun


rotor made it!(author)2006-12-05

Thanks very much for getting around to doing this.

Btw, this is my favorite part:

Or the way I do it - use a 12V, 15A supply together with a car headlamp for indication. Small shorts that used to be there get vapourised, and if that lamp lights up, boy, that really IS a short circuit.

I actually loled.

ArifSae made it!(author)2016-09-10

I have noticed , this is only good where the copper is single plane, what about parts separated. also some copper is not etched and left as a dust of board.

I experimented and found these steps to work for me:

I etched pcb in 2 steps,
Step 1: etch away all major copper via salt water electrolysis.

Step 2: etch remaining copper dust via hot Vinegar+hydrogen per oxide + salt water

pcd etched with electrolysis.jpg
greatnameless1 made it!(author)2009-04-02

Just a question... wouldn't it be easier to just print a design and iron it on instead of hand drawing?

kyle.marsh made it!(author)2009-06-17

Sure. But what if you don't have a printer? Or a plastic sheet that you can use to do the transfer? Doing it with a marker uses a tool that everyone is sure to have, and it gives people learning about this for the first time a better feeling for what they're doing. For the author: I like your "lotto-card" procedure. It feels like it'll produce much better results than trying to draw the traces with the marker directly.

splud made it!(author)2014-06-15

You could of course draw the resist on in the pattern of the circuit, and touch up around fine connections (such as the IC pins) by scraping away excess mask with a pin tip (or the awl tool commonly part of soldering tool sets).

I'm all for doing things on the cheap (I etch my own PCBs because I don't want to wait for a service to do it, and don't want to pay for fast shipping), but at the point you're doing circuit design work and have ICs and components to solder, surely a secondhand laser printer isn't a big outlay. The saved time alone, not to mention savings in material use (copper PCB material for instance) will make it a quick payoff.

splud made it!(author)2014-06-15

I have a wife, but I don't use her nail polish - I have several bottles of clear acrylic for coating windings, and a few older bottles of garish nail polishes I picked up for tamper seals and makeshift threadlock.

mbainrot made it!(author)2011-10-18

I am attempting this now.

It should be noted that you need a substantial load when using an switch mode power supply otherwise it may not switch on

mbluett made it!(author)2007-01-14

"One final necessary step is to paint over a line connecting all pads" What line is being painted over? This is not clear. An arrow pointing to the line in the picture would help. "In my board, the pads are all connected along the left and bottom edges." I cannot discern anything connecting the pads along the left and bottom edges. Again arrows pointing this out would help.

neelandan made it!(author)2007-01-15

You will note (if you look carefully) that the lines scratched on the paint do not reach the edge, but stop rather short. Wherever the line is drawn, the copper gets etched away. Thus the pads remain connected along the bottom and left hand edges in this layout.

Jimmy+Proton made it!(author)2010-12-07

why is this necessary that they be connected on the edges, what is you have isolated connection, will it still work?

stayputnik made it!(author)2011-05-05

if any of the pads aren't connected, they won't have electricity running to them, thus they won't necessarily etch all the lines you need to etch. does that answer your question?

neelandan made it!(author)2007-01-16

The offending text has been re-worded.

macumbista made it!(author)2008-10-24

OK, so the "Sodium chloride in Dihydrogen Monoxide" solution is harmless. What about the copper that gets absorbed into it? Is the waste product of this process chemically inert (i.e. salt, water and copper sludge)? If it is, I'd be very happy to use this over Ferric Chloride and other actually nasty stuff. If not, how to make the copper inert in the solution so I can flush it down the sink without poisoning the environment?

reyfari made it!(author)2008-11-14

The Electrolysis process is chemically simple. NaCl (salt) is a strong electrolyte and therefore "transfers charge".
This is really just a "redox" (oxidation/reduction) reaction.
What happends is, The Chlorine ions (Cl-) migrate to the cathode where they loose electrons and bind to make Cl2(g). This gas is toxic even in small amounts, you should read MSDS for Cl2(g). (Just type Cg2(g) into google). You should therefore perform this in a well ventilated area (or not at all).
The Copper at the cathode (the cathode is the PCB board) looses electrons and dissolves in the solution. If there is excess water a complex-ion will form Cu[(H2O)6]2+ (Octahedral aqueous copper complex with a charge of +2), but this complex will be in some equilibria with the Cl- ions. If The Cl- ions are in excess (which would probably not happen in a aqueous solution) a yellow complex Cu(Cl4)2- would form (in equilibrium with CuCl2 which is quite soluble in water).
Some Hydrogen gas could form at the anode due to the self-ionization of water H20 <---> H+ + OH- (this equilibrium lies far to the left). H+ ions would migrate to the anode, pick up electrons and leave the solution as H2(g).
When two H+ ions leave the solution as H2(g) after reduction, two water molecules will dissociate to form 2H+ + 2OH-. The OH- ions combine with Cu2+ ions to form Cu(OH)2(s) which is insoluble so it will precipitate as a green-looking solid.
So, What you have in your solution is
a) Cu(OH)2 (s) (amount is proportional to the amount of hydrogen displaced, which is proportional to the amount of Cu(s) etched away).
b) Cu[(H2O)6]2+ (amount depending on the amount of Cl- to cause...)
c) CuCl2 +2Cl- <--> CuCl3(-) <--> CuCl4(2-)
d) Some Na+ ions and water
What will leave the solution?
H2(g) and Cl2(g)

So, now you know. And what you should do if you want to know if you can flush the solution down the drain is read the MSDS for Cu(OH)2, and Copper-solutions. Although I can tell you, we don't like solutions of heavy-metals flushed down the drain. You should dispose of this properly.

I suggest you find another electrolyte to avoid the Cl2(g). I don't have many ideas tough since my access to acids and metal-nitrates and such is not limited :-).

Hope this helps
Greetings from Iceland.
Benedikt Ómarsson, B.Sc

citizenray made it!(author)2009-07-21

If I'm reading that right that suggests that this produces chlorine gas, which I was told was fairly deadly in small amounts.

Jimmy+Proton made it!(author)2010-12-07

but there is so little gas produced you may not even get one bubble of chlorine gas and if you do it will diffuse in the air.

DrNerdington made it!(author)2010-03-27

What about using a baking soda (sodium bicarbonate, NaHCO3) solution as an electrolyte, Mr. Science Man? ;)

To the author: I have long considered using both this etch resist application process and reverse electroplating for PCB fabrication, but you actually did them... at the same time... and you wrote instructions for us! Good show!

I plan to adapt this process to the use of my CNC router with some kind of spring-loaded scratching implement and of Peroxide+Muriatic Acid as the etchant (assuming I can find an etch resist that is safe from its ravages... I'm thinking wax).

Prodigity made it!(author)2009-07-26

I did a quick search.. Cl2 and H2 tend to explode when combined o_o
No biggie if you do this out in the open but if you put a lid on it to erm fend of the fumes or something you might be actually doing more bad than good.

Can't see any problems however if you just do this outside =)

chaydgb made it!(author)2010-09-01

Superb! A refreshing change from the usual "You will require: An industrial laser cutter, an enormous budget, twenty arduino boards". Personally I photoetch my boards, but should I ever find myself in a situation where I'd not have access to my kit, I'll remember this 'ible! Thanks.

soapmaker72 made it!(author)2010-03-29

Firstly, A primer on NaCl (applies to all alkali metal halides) free chlorine gas can only be evolved in quantity given three conditions are met.

1. High salt concentration in solution
2.  A pH of 7 or lower( acidity promotes this)
3. An anode(+) that is CHEMICALLY INERT to chloride or chlorine

Notice that NONE of these conditions are met in this case.  The salt is in lower concentration.  The pH will probably increase if anything(go more alkaline).  And last but not least the copper is not inert and hence it is etched. 

Secondly,  Disposal of copper waste is not an issue.  The oxides/hydroxides can be dissolved in diluted muriatic acid, vinegar, or battery acid and an aluminum wire is added until a clear solution is obtained.  This can be decanted down the drain as it simular to deodorant (aluminum chloride) or baking alum(aluminum sulfate).  The pinkish copper grains can be mixed with saw dust, oats, flour or any organic that chars black and borax and melted with a propane flame to get copper metal for later use.

rotf101 made it!(author)2010-01-09

 Thanks so much for the instructable! I used the same saltwater etching process to etch a nameplate in aluminum. It turned out great!

eclarep made it!(author)2009-11-30

 Hey, girls make circuit boards too!

Malcolm+Jackson made it!(author)2009-11-26

Many thanks for all this.  You have got me really motivated and I will be having a go asap.  Great stuff.

adnimo made it!(author)2009-10-31

Dude... that's the worst soldering I've seen in a long while, even worse than my very first soldered joint... and it was a cold one, damn! you need a) better tip b) more power c) practice the tin feeding and timing, you're not doing it properly. always lift on the same direction and feed enough to solder A and B, if not you have the potential of soldering X as well and with your thin traces that's very possible.

mbluett made it!(author)2007-01-14

For the chemically illiterate your mention of DHMO being hazardous is inappropriate. It's not even funny!

DHMO = H20 = water

Wyle_E made it!(author)2009-06-17

*Anything* is deadly under the right conditions. Helium has no toxicity at all, but if you breathe pure helium you won't last long. The DHMO joke is very old, but there are some seriously toxic compounds that your body requires or produces. One of these days, I'm going to write an essay called "The Poisons You Can't Live Without." Start with the hydrochloric acid in your stomach,

BlueFusion made it!(author)2009-07-20

Some of the most toxic elements (Chromium, for one) are deadly in even small doses but essential in tiny, tiny doses. This is true for hundreds of other compounds, elements, substances, etc. What I want to know is who figured out that sucking on dynamite is good for you! (GTN (glycerol trinitrate) aka nitroglycerine is found in explosives, however is used in hundreds of medications to reduce blood pressure, and used as a reliever for angina sufferers.) Helium can also be very useful - BOC produce a gas known as HeliOx (He & O2 in a 8:2 ratio) used in hospitals (mainly intensive care) for asthma sufferers, as the 80% helium content makes the gas a lot more 'slippery' than air. This results in it being much more breathable; easier to get the oxygen in, and since it still has a 20% oxygen content no ill effects are had. Apart from sounding like a castrated mouse due to the higher resonance caused by inhaling helium.

BillyBobFett made it!(author)2007-08-31

Actually it's very funny. The page is a satire of irrational environmentalism and of people who are afraid of all "chemicals." I like the statement that "DHMO has been found in high levels in many lakes and streams in the US."

neelandan made it!(author)2007-01-15

... and I might humbly add that that website is really preposterous! ( )

berin made it!(author)2007-02-09

Time to educate you moron's on this, this is not some great easy quick method for producing a PCB board. This produced chlorine as a bi product, 5min of run time can produce a deadly lethal amount amount of Cl or also known as Chlorine. What you produce in a small VAT in this example is almost 2x what your YMCA uses to keep there entire POOL clean. AGAIN THIS IS A DANGERUS AND DEADLY EXPERIMENT. DO NOT TRY IT!!! besides putting this down the drain will kill a septic system AND will really really piss off your local wast water treatment plant to the point that they WILL investigate were the source of Chlorine is coming from. DANGER!!!!!

xenobiologista made it!(author)2008-02-13

Er, isn't it going to produce copper chloride if you're dissolving copper in salt water?

recon506 made it!(author)2009-03-01

Yes, at a high enough amperage this process will produce Cupric Chloride. Not the nicest of chemicals, but as long as you're not etching a full-size motherboard you should be fine. -recon506

jamwaffles made it!(author)2009-07-20

i have just noticed something... doesnt cupric chloride etch pcbs??? if so, you could get a blank board and make some cool cupric chloride to etch your boards couldnt you? any suggestions please.. :) James

Wesley666 made it!(author)2009-02-14

What if I do this outside, and dilute it before it goes down the drain? As well my water is almost completely distilled with just a bit of sodium because it comes from an underground source below my farm. Besides you can always use something other than salt, that will do the same job just as well.

solidification made it!(author)2009-02-12

... Any Cl gas that evolves, easily dissolves into solution (as gas). Cl gas and H2 gas that does escape are not deadly in such tiny concentrations. At most the Cl would be an irritant in an 3 x 3 meter room. It is all about the concentration. The waste water will never even know about the chlorine content... Any Cl gas would probably react with something and the Cl ions are so common in water (you get the same Cl ions from road salt). However, The EPA and your local DNR both care about copper ions being released into the ground water supply.

carpespasm made it!(author)2008-01-31

Could you give more info/ sources please? I'm not saying you're wrong, but if it's true it's something I'd like to know more about. In what way does it harm a septic system? I've worked on them and installed several, and except for something harming the pump with prolonged exposure (similar to using lye cleaners very often) I can't see how the chlorine would hurt a drain system. How does the concentration of chlorine in this solution compare to that of common bleach?

steven07 made it!(author)2007-05-10

At first glance i see no Cl being produced Cl is normally only produced by electrolysis in normal saltwater when you have more than a Concentration 4M. otherwise gas is 1/3's O2 and 2/3's H do you have the reaction to help explain to me how Cl is produced ( perhaps when you do electrolysis you us too much salt)

steven07 made it!(author)2007-05-10

oh had a look over people doing electrolysis Don't make a saturated salt solution and you should do fine, So a Maximum of 100g per L should be fine for no cl being produced

steven07 made it!(author)2007-05-11

had a look at some electrolysis information and i believe: The Cu anode produces Cu 2+ ions which would like to bond with Cl- anyway (the fore no free cl gas is made) however its probably likely that the NaCl will only act as an electrolyte and CuO will be the only by product. Any gas produced if the Solution is under 4 mol will be the reduction of air. ( gas will be produced at both electrodes if you use more volts than you need even if the anode is inert, the gas produced will depend on the concentration as stated above) All reactions pretty much stop when electrolysis stops, You should to even be able to ingest some of this mixture and come out alright. Heres some more info.

BillyBobFett made it!(author)2007-08-31

I'm not a chemist, but it seems to me that the chlorine is instantly combining with the copper, forming copper chloride, which is the yellow stuff you see in the solution. So my guess is that it's probably not producing very much chlorine in the end. Like I said though, I'm not a chemist. Great instructable by the way; I think I'll try it the next time I use a SMT chip.

zachninme made it!(author)2007-06-19

What about using sodium carbonate? I don't know if the salt here really does anything but increase conductivity...

steven07 made it!(author)2007-06-20

Yep Sodium carbonate should work . if you want to see for yourself the likely products of any salt when electrolyzed. look at the flow chart i posted below yep pretty much the salt here is just increasing the waters conductivity

neelandan made it!(author)2007-06-20

Why not try it, then write and tell us?

0x0000 made it!(author)2007-04-29
"time to educate you moron&apos;s on this"
think pretty highly of yourself, do you? How about instructing us on the proper capture and handling of the Cl during after the process? Some of us may have a use for such things. You come across here as just another timid ignoramus. Like, do you really think the average person needs telling that Cl is poisonous to humans? Grow up, possuer.
jtobako made it!(author)2007-04-07

Since when is a septic system attached to a waste water treatment plant? A septic system IS a personal waste treatment plant! If the chlorine is released as a gas, how is the treatment plant going to ever see it? Now, if you were going to talk about copper contamination, you might be able to make a point-until you look in your pocket at the change there or the pipes bringing water into your home. Let's talk about volume. A swimming pool uses up to 6 cups of chlorine additive per week, assuming that salt has as much chlorine do you really think that he got 2 cups of salt to dissolve in that tiny tank? And it's all coming out in 5 minutes? I think the MORON is in the MIRROR.

neelandan made it!(author)2007-02-12

The above warnings apply to the intelligent humans reading this as well.

ledgar11 made it!(author)2008-02-20

0hi im new to the pcb deal and i had a question if the whole board is made out of copper doesnt the circuit cross with the electric current

tjhart85 made it!(author)2009-03-12

He made his circuit the OPPOSITE way that you'll normally see. Normally there are small lines of copper. What the author did was make a large section of copper & seperate the sections by making a line that's non-conducting. You could just as easily do the reverse process and use the marker to create a trace (as is more normal looking), but you might need to etch multiple times as the solution may not continue etching properly or at the very least for a longer period of time.

Samodelkin made it!(author)2008-08-02

To me, this seems like the perfect solution to two problems: etching single-side PCBs and getting started with SMT. The biggest selling point to me is the lack of dangerous acids; however, I am a bit apprehensive about the residue in the water after the process. What exactly is it? Is it safe to dispose of down the drain? Could someone find some chemical equations for this process? (I know little about chemistry, so when it comes to chemical safety, paranoia is the best replacement for knowledge that I have.) Seeing that this instructable is over a year old, I am led to assume that people are using this technique with no incident. However, it's not like someone would post here immediately after they die from it. (I'm sure this is an exaggeration though. I hope.)

After a bit of internet research, I concluded that the precipitant residue after the process is probably Copper (II) Hydroxide. Note the synthesis process: copper anode (the board) in electrolysis of water with some electrolyte in it, salt in this case. However, that still doesn't answer my questions about proper disposal procedures.

So far, I predict the reaction equation looks somewhat like this:
2 H2O (l) + Cu (s) >> H2 (g) + Cu(OH)2 (aq)
Could someone who knows chemistry please confirm or deny any of this?


By now I'm rather certain that you can't just pour Copper Hydroxide down the drain. Because it's insoluble, however, it should sink to the bottom, allowing the liquid to be poured off and decreasing the amount of waste that requires "proper" disposal. Other potential byproducts are Copper(I) chloride and Copper(II) chloride, assuming table salt is used for electrolyte. This is because the negative Chlorine ions would bind to the positively-charged copper plate. Alternatively, if baking soda (Sodium Bicarbonate, NaHCO3) is used, the most likely thing to accumulate on the PCB is Copper(II) carbonate, because carbonate would be the negative ion.

The disadvantage with this method is the constant output of potentially-hazardous waste that requires proper disposal. According to this site, however, Copper(II) sulfate can be used as an electrolyte, with the advantage of not undergoing chemical change; that means the electrolyte can be re-used indefinitely. It should be commercially available as herbicide/fungicide for gardening purposes. (see Root Killer)

Again, I know little about chemistry and this is just a guess, so I would like to know if anyone can confirm/deny this.

hosam_eldin made it!(author)2007-12-01

Thanks for the great idea but i think it can't be used with the toner transfer PCB i have tried it , the problem is : when you try to etch a large area, some copper is etched and disconnects the current and the process may stop leaving many copper spots on the board. here is an image when i tried to etch my name. you can see the bad result


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Bio: I'm Chandra Sekhar, and I live in India. I am interested in electronics, and building small one-off circuits around tiny chips (the electronic kind).
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