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look around you right now what do you see? I see limitless energy just waiting to be harnessed, The question is how?

Answer: using Crystal power cell, but how does on work? I work's because the Crystal that is formed has two unique abilities, it's piezo electric and thermoelectric. This means that whenever sound waves hit this it produces electricity, and whenever it's heated it also produces electricity, when it starts to produce energy. You may have noticed in the title that I have claimed that this is an infinant battery, that is because as we speak there are two of these sitting on someone's shelf that have been running an LED and a small motor for the last two years, impressive right. You can see these at http://laserhacker.com/ On this website you can find lots of cool things like motors that run on almost nothing, or solar powered cars, everything on this website is open source that is the reason why you can't buy these because big companies don't see any profit in something you can just make.

The original inventor of this was jhon huchison, a self taught theoretical physicist who in his spare time conducts home experiments using surplus navy equipment. I first heard about these batteries on YouTube and for the last month I've been assembling all the needed materials to build this, the main reason I worked so hard to make this is because I wanted to see if this was even legit, so I tried it and to my surprise I was able to get half a volt of AC current which is awesome considering the fact that there is no record to date of these stopping, so without further due here it is. Be sure to vote for me, thank you.

 
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Can you melt all the chemicals and pour it into the copper pipe? I did this in a ceramic cup low temp and got a nice liquid but got no electric current when it dried?

Can you melt all the chemicals and pour it into the copper pipe? I did this in a ceramic cup low temp and got a nice liquid but got no electric current when it dried?

f.316 days ago
You have managed to generate some really interesting comments on this instructible! Good job on your project by the way. Though a piece that strikes me curious about something you said in particular.. You said that you achieved Alternating Current from a crystal cell. I have made several of these Crystal Power Cells and I have only been able to record Direct Current from my cells. I have made them using 3/4"x3" copper pipe and have managed to get the same results from a 1" diameter by 3/8" length copper pipe. My best results came from the 1"x3/8" copper pipe and I had drilled and tapped the hole in the magnesium so I could use a machine screw and nut that is Zinc coated. That gave me a replicable 1.42 volts of Direct Current. I will add pictures of these short Crystal Power Cells and what my Kline tools multimeter readouts are for them at a later time. I also keep seeing some people reference these to a battery. They are not a battery. In a battery you "store" a charge in their chemical makeup. In a Capacitor you can also store a charge inside for a use temporarily though you wouldn't call a Capacitor a battery... so far these have been called a Crystal Power Cell and until it is defined more clearly shouldn't be mixed up with either of the other two. Cool thing about these things are that it seems to me that you can get them to be quite small and compact and still achieve the same power output rating. It just seems like you have to put the ingredients together with each other and not have the magnesium and the copper touching together directly. I have also gotten good results using uneven mixtures of the ingredients and the borax seems to do more than one job. Not only does it help the flow of electrons it also acts as an anti corrosion agent. Again good job. .. keep testing!
Kiteman f.315 days ago

Point of information: until we see any evidence of vibrations or heat being transformed into electricity, the most accurate and honest description of this device is an electrochemical cell, much as any other cheap AA or coin cell.

By the way, I can't seem to see the comment where you claimed to be about to post "proof" that this concept works. Do you have a time-line on that yet?

rimar20007 months ago

In Intro you say: "I was able to get half a volt of AC current". As far as I know, AC stands for Alternate Current. That is understandable if you are getting current from vibrations.

In step 11 you say "the copper is your positive lead and the bolt is your negative one".

There is a conflict among these two sentences, please clear it.

For the rest, good instructable.

AndyN1 rimar20003 months ago

I am not 100% certain on this aspect but after a little debate with one of the Community Team members I might actually build one soon myself to clear up a few things, but I "think" the main output is dc with an ac ripple riding on top which comes from the frequencies going on with the cell but the dc is coming from a more normal dry cell like opperation without extra circuitry it would only be possible to capture dc or ac at one time but with some high speed diodes in a bridge rectifier config I believe there would be an increase in output? will update when I find the time to check this.

f.3 AndyN116 days ago
Please let me know what you find out about what you are saying here. I am more than very curious about what comes of it. Or maybe even you could bounce some ideas off of me that I can check out to get this going. I may even be willing to send you a premaid cell if simply making one or a few is what you dont have time for.
rimar2000 f.315 days ago

I suspect that the AC component that is obtained comes from a nearby or powerful radio station. I noticed that the flashlight starts blinking light when batteries are running low. Suppose contacts under these conditions behave as semiconductors partially, rectifying a part of the radio wave.

I observed this effect in the times when I used a lot my flashlight to read in the train. Light variations were not uniform but very similar to that of audio-ritmic lights, ie varying in intensity and frequency as the sound.

Pure Carbon (author)  rimar20007 months ago

thanks for your comment, but I don't see the conflict. Maybe give a little more description.

If you have a positive lead, you dont' have AC, you have DC.

And vice versa.

To add even more description to that: What rimar2000 is saying, is that if you have AC as you said, there is no such thing as a positive or negative lead.

f.316 days ago
right now you can get a pound of alum from www.nuts.com for about $2.99 and you can get potassium chloride from either salt substitute for food which is the expensive way or by picking up a 40lb bag of potassium chloride water softener pellets which after you get what you need for your power cells can be used as a more healthy and productive way to soften your water.

Why do you use a screw? Can you just hook up to the magnesium

The screw makes it easier to attach a wire to, you can hook it up to the magnesium but it's harder to do.
atilladolphun3 months ago

ok cool ill definately rember that. the crystal battery i made was using a small straw peace that was about half or just under half the size of a tripple a battery. i made 6 cells wen not under load they had produced 4.6 volts of power and under load i was getting about 1.2 volts maby a bit less. still it is a awesom project to play with i definately encorage pepole to try this project.

atilladolphun3 months ago

i put togeather the non heated battery and it worked beutifuly though i think i wound up messing up i added water to it to increes the voltage output and apperently the water and salt solution ate up the magnezium. all and all it worked wonderfuly. i need to figure out the circut that will build up the charge then dump it in to a larger cap to make a verry usefull self charging flashlight.

Pure Carbon (author)  atilladolphun3 months ago

yay, puting water into the cell will activate the galvanic effect which will cause the battery to cerode. If you create a joule thief circuit it will regulate the voltage so that it will be able to power an LED. Thanks for the comment.

r-philp7 months ago

In this instructible I'm seeing salts and dissimilar metals. This sounds like the classic formula for an electro-chemical cell. I suspect that the salts' natural hydrophilic properties are pulling water out of the atmosphere to moisten the electrolyte. I expect that it probably does provide a small DC current, that improves in a damp atmosphere. Eventually you should find corrosion on the inside surfaces of the metal as the anode and cathode are consumed. Once these are all consumed, the cell will stop producing electricity, just like any other battery.

The "science" seems a bit sketchy. The author claims in the third paragraph that it produces AC current, and in the conclusion states that the copper is the positive terminal, and the bolt is negative. Which is it? AC or DC?

Not a bad start for an instructible, good pictures, but it could use some tweaking.

toms1 r-philp3 months ago

an old meter with worn out cap could fail to filter out DC on the AC scale so he was likely getting 1 volt plus DC this mistake does not invalidate the claim and just means his measurement was lower then what really present stop picking on simple mistakes and start pointing them out and work with the info we have such as 1 volt plus DC could be 1.3 volts for all we know

Pure Carbon (author)  r-philp7 months ago

AC, because the waves produce alternating current.

Krinkov7 months ago

This is the creator of the "crystal cell" http://www.skepdic.com/hutchisonhoax.html

Pure Carbon (author)  Krinkov7 months ago

I typed that in, and it said the page wasn't found?

The site works for me. Try searching for "hutchinson fraud" on google. Also, the reason you are getting a somewhat angry response to your instructable is due to people falling for hoaxes perpetrated by people such as Hutchinson. The guy just babbles scientific sounding terms to explain his hoaxes. We get angry because we don't want young impressionable minds such as yours becoming tainted by frauds on the internet.

If you would like to learn about something that does actually generate electrical power from heat, look up peltier junctions and the thermoelectric effect on google.

toms1 Krinkov3 months ago

i have seen these things for some time and they seem to be far then meets the eye i would like to see some research into this field and i could care less about threats from the oil industy

mykiscool7 months ago

Just out of curiosity, how many watts can each of these produce?

I'm also a bit skeptical about the power output. Could you try hooking your cell up to a load and measuring the voltage drop?

that is a good idea but i thing the voltage drop is gonna be notable but even a direct short will not bring it down that far as the units are shunted now a bigger cell would have less drop at a specified current but at max current the voltage drop would be the same just a higher current for the amount of space these units take they do not put out the same max power as a normal battery but put one of these in say a clock and they will outlive the clock

toms1 mykiscool3 months ago

this is easy to calculate 100 MA or .1 amp x volt 1.3 the this would be .13 watts per cell the max voltage i have seen that was repeatable is 1.3 and the half inch pipe cap cells typicaly put out any ware from 50 to 100 MA or .05-.1 amps

toms13 months ago

i have seen these cells put out any ware from half a volt to 1.3 volts normally the current is a bit limited but this current can be used for a much longer time then a normal battery some strange facts about crystals they have tiny blackholes in them on a sub atomic scale and the hawking effect would cause eletrons to be moved about adding electrodes to the mix just gives direction this also explains the excess salt if you believe in e=mc these cells have been tested for 2 plus years and dissembled the magnesium forms a protective layer of oxide and pretty much remains stable while copper seems to be unaffected in any way teachers are bound by the rules they grew up with somebody found a free lunch is it really your job to take it away lets say for a moment these things work then what oh ya i think the excess salt is really just salt changing its structure a bit into a less dense form this also did not seem to effect the cells ability even when its ozzing out of the cell over time so maybe we have new matter being formed maybe its reconfigured like graphite to diamond type deal what i know is big oil and nuclear would kill people to keep this from getting out but short of that a teacher that is not willing to look at things for her or his self and just quotes the text books as being like a bible of sorts sorry the bible is loaded with flaws and so are text books at one time electric power was just as much of a pipe dream as these crystal batteries seem to be eletric power was let to come into existence when it could be metered hence tesla do we really need to go there or should we stick to the subject at hand these things do not cost much to make and the expected energy over time is easy to calculate if based on chemical reactions once that is exceeded you have to start asking questions and it appears many have exceeded that 10-100 fold i could take 2-3 crystal cells about the size of D cell batteries and power a small flash light for 5 years while 2 AA would power that same light for 3 days and a D cell has what 5 times the power your math is faulty teacher go back to the school your self

chickenstrlp6 months ago

how many volts is it can you check for me with a multimeter

how about a video of it increasing its output when sound is directed towards it, or one with heat applied. or maybe one of a battery producing ac. lol

This looks like a standard Mg-Cu cell. The voltage you're reporting is the amount you'd see when comparing the electronegativity of Cu and Mg (1.90 - 1.30), less any resistance from the set-up you've got going. Heating the cell would tend to lower the resistance, as it would allow the ions to move through the "crystal" (i.e. dry cell paste) you've created. This set up is also reminiscent of early microphones involving a carbon cup, a carbon rod, and carbon powder. It would look a bit like the cell you have here. When you make noise around the old-time microphones, the sound waves would compress the carbon powder slightly, lowering the resistance in direct proportion to the amount of noise. In that system, the power source would be external and would be hooked up to the microphone. In this system, the power source is the electrochemical cell you've created, so this could be seen as an interesting and primitive self-powered microphone. I mean, if it does actually work as indicated here. If it's producing half a volt, it should be enough to power a small speaker. Sounds like a cool experiment! Hook 'er up! (Side note: if you hook it up to an amplified stereo, make sure the volume is WAY down, as you will get a brutal amount of hum. Maybe put a resistor or two in-line to bring down the power. Don't want to burn anything out.)

Krinkov7 months ago

You just created a battery. You have two dissimilar metals in contact with salts. The alum is acting as a binder because it melts at a low temperature and the borax is acting as a channel for the ions to travel through. It is somewhat interesting as an easy to make dry cell battery at least.

hoerstkamp7 months ago

I like it make it test it ...... make a lot more of it

fusionfast27 months ago
Ok so when you put the mixture in the copper pipe do u put some in the bottom the put the mag block in or do you put the block in and then the mixture and the block is visible on the bottom of the pipe?
Pure Carbon (author)  fusionfast27 months ago

thanks for the comment, on mine you can see the magnesium block.

russ_hensel7 months ago

Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_Electric_Bell for a long term, but not infinite, battery with legit scientientific credentials.

Pure Carbon (author)  russ_hensel7 months ago

Thank you for the comment. when I put the word "infinite" in the title I more ment for it to be an attention getter, I don't actually know how long these last, there are some that have been going for the last two years and are still going strong.

verence7 months ago
1/4 cup of no salt

I don't have any salt. Can I use 'no sugar' instead?

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