Introduction: Tootophone Sax and Trumpet


The end of the road is where you find me and my tootophones. 

At Musiciansfriend.com , an alto sax sells anywhere from $250 for a student model up to around $3,800.  This tootophone sax costs about $1 to make, sounds pretty good, and is a lot easier to play.  Music departments take note.  For the cost of one traditional sax you could probably equip at least 250 students with tootophone saxes.  When the economy really, really sucks, you can still afford to have a band!

The mouthpiece for this tootophone variation is the same as the "Tiny Tootophone",  https://www.instructables.com/id/Tiny-Tootophone.   See that instructable to learn how to make the mouthpiece.  It is made out of an insulin syringe and costs about 25 cents to make. 

The reed material affects the sound.  Stiffer plastic reeds sound more trumpet-like.  Softer rubber reeds sound more like a saxophone.

Variations to the body of the tootophone make variations in the sound it makes.  The tootophone sax has a rubber reed and a body that uses two cones made from x-ray film plastic.  It is held together with electrical tape and a little nylon string. 

Be sure and use good quality tape, such as that from the 3M company.  The difference is in the adhesive.  Cheap tape just doesn't stick as well. 

To hear how the sax and trumpet sound, listen to the audio files in the last steps. 



Step 1: Cleaning the Film

I figured the tape would stick better to clean plastic than to the emulsion on the surface of the film.   To wash the emulsion off, I found that a wash basin, metal scouring pad, water and a little elbow grease did the job quite well.  The pad scratches the plastic, but that doesn't affect the sound.  A stainless steel pad is slightly magnetic, so a mesh strainer and a magnet could be used to help remove any bits of the abrasive pad that might break off into the wash water. 

I saved the wash water in plastic containers in hopes of figuring out a way to recover the silver from it.  It is like black ink at first, but the solids slowly settle to the bottom.   Maybe electroplating will work, or heating of the dry sediment to drive of everything but the silver.  I haven't gotten to that stage of the game yet, so I am just storing jars of the stuff. 

Commercial recovery of the silver often times involves destruction of the film, so I think this is more effective recycling.   

Step 2: Rolling Cones

Rolling a cone is not difficult.  Start at one edge and roll.  Tape down the free edge to keep it from unrolling.  If small end needs to fit into one of the 1/2" CPVC fittings, size it accordingly before taping the cone. 

After the cone is taped together, if it is too loose in the fitting, you may trim a little off the small end of the cone to make the end diameter a little larger. 

I use a little clear PVC cement when I jam the cone into the fitting, and then tape the joint with a few layers of tape.  The PVC cement  seems to make the joint firmer. 

Since the cones are longer than any of the x-ray films you have to make them in sections.  The first section is rolled and taped.  Then the next cone is inserted part way into the first cone and allowed to unroll.  It stops when it meets the walls of the first cone, and conforms to the same conical angle.  The cone's free edge is then taped and the two sections are taped together.  It's like plugging the second cone into a socket in the end of the first one. 

The internal cone of my sax is made of three small x-rays, while the outer cone is made of two large ones. 

Step 3: Joining the Two Cones

For the sax, the skinny cone goes inside the larger cone.  Leave room for air to flow around the end of the skinny tube and back up the fat one. 

Tape holds the two cones together at the top, and nylon string holds them together at three points further down.  To tie them, you have to melt a couple small holes in the larger cone for the string to go through.  I used a sharp soldering iron, but a heated nail held with pliers would work. 

The bottom point is the most difficult to tie because of the tight quarters inside the larger cone.  I ran one end of the string through one hole and a loop of string through the second hole.  With a little maneuvering, the end of the string can be pushed through the string loop and then caught with the loop and pulled back out through the second hole for tying. After tying the points, I cover the exposed string and knots with a little tape. 

Water condensation inside the cones can exit through the bottom.  I tape the tiny hole at the end to close most of it.   The mouthpiece can also be removed and blown through in reverse to remove condensation from it.  

Step 4: Adding the CPVC Fittings

The plumbing part of the sax uses 1/2 inch CPVC (for hot water) pipe.  The trumpet model uses only a "T".  The sax uses a "T", a 45 degree angle fitting, and a little section of pipe to join them. 

With the finger hole closed, there are sometimes one or more annoying steps in the sliding scale that you can make.  To avoid having such steps and difficult note sectionss, I drill a small hole in the 45 degree fitting, or in the "T".  In effect that prevents the closing of the finger hole from ever completely closing of the escape of air before the cone section. 

The cap that covers the plunger end of the original syringe is used as a socket for the tootophone mouthpiece to fit into.  Since the cap has no hole running through it, you have to drill out the end.  I used a small drill and then finished reaming it out with an X-acto knife.  To hold the cap in place inside the CPVC fitting, a rubber "O" ring is used. 

Step 5: Hear the Tootophone Sax

The tootophone sax uses a rubber reed.

Click on the icons below, that look like pieces of paper with the corner folded over, to open the audio files and hear the tootophone sax. 

They are all improvisations.

Step 6: Hear the Tootophone Trumpet


The tootophone trumpet uses a plastic reed.  

To hear how it sounds, click on the icon below (looks like a piece of paper with corner bent over).  That will open an mp3 audio file. 

These are original improvisations.  This tooter sure can find the high notes!

Step 7: On a Personal Note...


I live alone in the mountains of Puerto Rico and have a guest house.  I would love to have musicians pass through to play and record with.  A few models and massage partners would also be welcome. 

Private message me if you are interested and would like a free place to stay while visiting beautiful (and warm in winter) Puerto Rico. 


Step 8: More Recent Recordings

These are some more recent recordings with the sax tooter.  One has a simultaneous drum and rhythm accessories accompaniment done with the left hand while the right handles the sax tooter.  Playing this way alone in real time helps coordinate the rhythm and tooter sections.  

Click the icons below, like dog-eared paper to hear them.    

Comments

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Havlicek stole the ball (author)2014-02-09

Woult it be possible/feasible to build a tootophone sax with a lower pitch?

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sunshiine (author)2011-06-24

Thanks for sharing your hard work! Nice ible!

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chapa-de-frente (author)2011-03-14

In Love With This Idea

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whosLiam (author)2011-03-06

this is amazing!

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mr.frob (author)2011-03-04

That sounds really sweet. I like it.

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BobicusIX (author)2011-02-22

This is awesome! If only it sounded more like a sax, though... I payed $1,400 for my trusty sax, and I would totally make this. Too bad it doesn't come with a case :/

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DannyBloom (author)2011-02-20

It looks like a cave in there! lol Are there any other uses for the film? Or are you mass producing these tootophones?

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Thinkenstein (author)DannyBloom2011-02-20

Tootophones are not a commercial venture for me. I make them and give them away. If anybody else wants to manufacture and sell them, that is fine with me. I would just like to see everybody playing a tootophone.

There must be other uses for the film, but this is all I use it for now.

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sbent518 (author)2011-02-18

i think this is really great, but it really don't sound much like a sax at all, maybe a muted trumpet... then again if i could my sax to sound like that i think i would always play that way. lol

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Thinkenstein (author)sbent5182011-02-19

I think the main remaining difference between the tootophone sax and a real sax is that the real sax is a keyed instrument, and the tootophone sax is not. The tootophone does sliding, continuous scales, that the real sax does not. The real sax does stepped scales faster and more cleanly than the tootophone sax, because it is s keyed. It's hard to get around that anatomical difference and the inherent results of it.

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rocketsurgery (author)2011-02-16

Fantastic! Thanks so much for sharing!

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eulaliaaaa! (author)2011-02-15

WOW! That sounds like a REAL saxophone!

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Thinkenstein (author)eulaliaaaa!2011-02-15

Thanks! That's mainly due to the rubber reed material.

My guess is that the sound has something to do with the percussive overtones from when the reed material contacts the rigid mouthpiece part. Otherwise at the same X-number of vibrations per second, the reeds should make the same sound.

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Ninzerbean (author)2011-02-15

Shhhhhh, no one knows my real name here.

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rimar2000 (author)Ninzerbean2011-02-15

OK, Elizabeth... Pardon.

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rimar2000 (author)2011-02-14

Bill, you are successful as musical instrument maker! These sound very well.

I don't know what is "elbow grease". I used bleach, it cleans quickly the film. You must put the film into diluted bleach, leave it some minutes without touch it, and then you can get the film totally clean. You get too that black powder you mention.

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Thinkenstein (author)rimar20002011-02-15

Thanks for the bleach idea. I'll try it next time.

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Ninzerbean (author)rimar20002011-02-15

"elbow grease" is a saying we have that means "hard work", it's as if your elbows were machines that needed to be greased and you were going to use them a lot. It is used when the work involves your own labor and sweat vs a machine doing the work. You must have an expression like that in Spanish - what is it?

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rimar2000 (author)Ninzerbean2011-02-15

Interesting saying! Surely in Spanish there are equivalents, but in this moment I can't remember any. Years ago I wrote a book collecting 1622 spanish sayings with their comments and correlations with concepts (work, live, justice, etc). I published a first "xerox" edition of 18 books, not all sold.

Then, "my" method of using bleach will be useful for you, to save that valuable "elbow grease".

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Ninzerbean (author)rimar20002011-02-15

For sure, that elbow grease does run out as you get older...

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