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Tube Amp Rebuild (and Mod)

Step 3Buying a vintage amp 'project'

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Before you buy a vintage amp, do your homework. Check for schematics here: schematicheaven. With any luck, you'll know loads about the amp before you even purchase it! (don't make a silly mistake and buy an old solid-state amp off ebay, thinking that every amp made in the '60s was tube!)

I'd recommend hands-on--i.e., play the amp before purchasing. But there are so many vintage amps on ebay, etc., that's not always possible.

Also, read some user reviews here: Harmony-central Amp Reviews

Things to look for in a vintage amp:

--Does it work at all? This could be a recipe for frustration--if the transformers are bad, you could be looking at a very expensive project (of course, you might have a bargain, too.)

--If you plan to rebuild yourself, simplicity is good. Are you prepared to tackle an amp with tremolo and reverb circuits, as well as a multi-stage amplifier circuit? If not, stay small.

--If modding is your goal, then point-to-point wiring is best (most vintage amps are wired this fashion, anyway.) Unlike a modern PCB, point-to-point is a rats-nest approach, where the components are simply tied together with lengths of wire. This is a good thing, and actually makes noise-related problems easier to fix.

Things to avoid:

--Unsafe design

Look for at least two transformers--every tube amplifier has an output transformer hooked to the speaker. But some old amps forgo input (power) transformers, and are wired directly (indirectly, actually, through a single cap) to the AC line voltage. This type of wiring lacks 'isolation' and is dangerous! If that one old cap fails, you're a conductor! (in the electrical, not the musical sense.) Check online schematics if you can't inspect the amp personally.

The Kay 503A is a bit of a hybrid. It has an isolation transformer--but only for the amplifier circuit, not the tube "heaters." This is not ideal, but it is safer than no isolation at all. With a bit of rewiring, it's not too bad. A separate power supply for the heaters would be the best option, however. Or an external line isolation transformer (replacing the AC heater circuit with an isolated DC supply will also reduce hum.)

--Check for blown speakers or torn cones.

--For a first-timer, avoid a large complex rebuilding project.
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Sep 28, 2008. 10:32 AMmegamanchris says:
is there any way to mod a hybrid amp that has a terrible digital clean but a pre amp tube for distortion. if so what I want to do is set it up so it can take a small power tube to produce a thicker distortion, its a fender roc pro 700
Sep 30, 2008. 7:31 AMmegamanchris says:
tis not so much the warmth, its the thickness of distortion coupled with the lack of warmth, essentialy i want it to actualy have a level of harshness from the solid state but with the deep throaty distortion of a tube amp almost. i play a lot of the heavy stuff and the roc pro just doesnt do anything special, it is hollow even with fx units
Sep 30, 2008. 12:18 PMmegamanchris says:
ive tried it through many different cabinets and the sound is still as empty and lifeless as ever, and it is hard how i mean by hollow, like metallica cut most of their mids but its not hollow sounding, my am has enough bass as it is, but it doesnt have a round full tone to it. and it tends to mash everything together rather than define the lows mids and highs. it also loves to crackle and pop through everything. doesnt matter what guitar, what guitar lead, it loves to pop and crackle even after replacing the 12AX7 and even through different cabninets. tis probably one of the worst amps fender have made.
Oct 2, 2008. 12:24 AMmegamanchris says:
actually no I have not tried it without the 12AX7 in, I shall try that maybe. also I have another amp (also a "hybrid" so to speak" a Crate TD 70 now it also has little power behind the gain and is rather muddy, any ideas on if I can do the same to it as I wanted to do to the Roc Pro by moding it to take a bigger tube and give some sort of power and clarity behind it? or is it like the roc pro and unworkable

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