Turn a Super NES into a Universal Game Player

 by vigothecarpathian
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Don't you wish you had a system that could play all your favorite games from the past? Mario? Sonic? Gauntlet? Yes!

Well with this magic system you can play all your favorites on a 4-player system that uses authentic Super Nintendo Control Pads. It has the capability to play games from NES, Super NES, N64, Neo Geo, Gameboy Advance, Commodore 64, Sega Genesis, arcade games and more! It is cartridge free, and plugs into any TV with HDMI. Take it to any friends house, because this puppy is very portable! The secret is there is a mini computer inside of the Super NES that runs whatever classic games you choose.

I started with just an old Super Nintendo, and with about $200 and some time on my hands, I was able to turn it into pure gaming gold. You can do the same thing as well, just follow this instructable!

This console is:
• 4 player and super portable - have a gaming party at anyone's house!
• Cheap to build
• Able to use authentic SNES controllers (4 player with additional wireless controllers.)
• Solid State, no moving parts
• Cartridge-free! Store all your games on a SD card.
• Can be used in Modern TV's even if your real Nintendo is cannot be accepted by your TV.
• Going to make all your friends jealous   ^_^

Check out a demo of the player right here:


The emulators I use are all 100% free. Keep in mind if you build your own player, it should be used for games that you legally own.
 
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Step 1: Everything You Will Need

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OK, before we begin, there are a few basic skills you need to complete this project:

• Basic soldering skills
• A bit of computer know-how (Installing operating systems, emulators, tweaking computer settings)
• Some Mechanical know-how as well (Putting together computer components)


Here are the tools you will need

• Screwdriver set
• Glue gun
• Soldering gun, solder removal gun
• A thin 4mm socket (for removing those pesky Nintendo screws)
• A cresent cutter.
• SD Card Reader
• Keyboard and Mouse



Here is the parts you will need, see the photo for details on each item below:

• An old Super Nintendo with controllers
• A mini ITX Motherboard with processor (Must have HDMI output, have an external power supply, and must be no more than 4 cm high) I personally used a ZOTAC IONITX-C-U. The nice thing about the Zotac is that it does not get hot enough to need a cooling fan.
• Stick of RAM for the computer
• SD Card SATA Solid State Hard Drive
• 16 GB SD Card (goes in the solid state drive)
• USB Super NES dual port controller adaptor
• HDMI Cable and HDMI adaptors
• 2 Cherry microswitches
• Some standard internal computer cables
• Some wire and solder
• (Optional) 1 or 2 wireless dual shock style controllers if you want 3-4 players (These are also needed to play N64 games)
• Speaker grating for cool ventilation.
• 4 philips head 1/2 inch machinery screws for putting everything together.
• Windows XP or other operating system



cerberustugowar says: Oct 6, 2011. 8:02 PM
the reason you used wireless (opposed to corded) player 3 and 4 controllers was to try and keep it looking as stock as possible right?

is there enough room for a ssd where your sd to sata adaptor is?

it seems to be quite hard to find mobo's with a cpu and psu for $100 right now...
ZeroVirus in reply to cerberustugowarFeb 21, 2013. 10:40 AM
I have found several that are decent, some with and without the PSU though.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157228

Is the one I am looking at using for my version of this.

Another great site, albeit UK based, is http://www.mini-itx.com/store/boards

They have boards, accessories, and even 12VDC PSU
cerberustugowar in reply to ZeroVirusFeb 23, 2013. 4:39 PM
I ended up buying a clear plexi-glass mine ITX case off of ebay along with a SSD, ram, motherboard, and PSU from NCIX. I still have to finally deside on a Front end for it as some or more flashy and some more straight forward and to the point. DO you still like the front end you chose to go with?. I sold my all of my NES, SNES, N64, GC, and Genesis collection to make this build. Hopefully I actually finish it one of these days.
ZeroVirus says: Feb 21, 2013. 1:09 PM
I am working on designing my own version based on your work. Due to damage on my SNES case it won't look "stock" though because I am going to end up painting it. One thing I am thinking of adding to mine would be 2 USB ports on the beack between the HDMI and 12VDC connectors.
j-rod43 says: Aug 13, 2011. 11:57 AM
how much are the mainboards?
ZeroVirus in reply to j-rod43Feb 21, 2013. 10:41 AM
they basically range from $100 - $150
kendawg77 says: Nov 30, 2012. 9:30 PM
is there anyway to make it RCA
~CableGuy says: Nov 11, 2012. 8:05 AM
man! , this is awesome! wish I had enough money to that... damn... let's go to bed and make this instructable in dream!
Keep Rockin' dude!, thumbs up!
harvardman says: Mar 20, 2012. 10:16 PM
awesome job ...i have to build one for the kids but cant find the motherboard you used ...can u give options please thanks for your time
Muniosi says: Sep 9, 2011. 2:53 PM
Anyone know where to get just the housing for a SNES? I've looked everywhere.
cerberustugowar in reply to MuniosiOct 6, 2011. 7:51 PM
pawnshops, goodwill, 2nd hand stores, craigslist?
tthrower18 says: May 8, 2011. 12:17 PM
i can do all of this and more with my jailbroken ipod touch
splinks in reply to tthrower18May 31, 2011. 12:19 PM
You can have up to 4 players playing teenage mutant ninja turtles on your 1 iphone?

I call bullshit
tthrower18 in reply to splinksJun 13, 2011. 7:20 PM
ok not 4 players but i can still play
drawesomer in reply to tthrower18Aug 22, 2011. 12:38 PM
Oh yeah? Well I can do all that with my iPad!
mishathegoat says: Aug 7, 2011. 4:33 PM
Very cool, nicely done. I did a similar one a few years back with an NES. Also, just a heads up, downloading or dumping video game ROMs is illegal regardless if you've purchased the game or not (in most countries at least). Even if it is for archival purposes.
0fin says: Jun 20, 2011. 8:38 PM
when i create the dos start up disk
there is only 1.38mb on my sd card now???HELP???
Calico Jack says: Jun 3, 2011. 1:32 AM
On my system, the controller ports are tack welded to the mount. Is this the case for all super nintendos? How would I remove the welds without damaging the parts I need?

On another note, could you use the original power switch of the snes? If not, is it a matter of space, or compatibility?
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to Calico JackJun 6, 2011. 7:16 AM
Hi! Is this just soldier points on the circuit board, or is there an actual weld? On mine, I had to just melt the soldier to pull out the controller port. Otherwise it came right out. I used a solder removal gun, or desoldering iron, to suck up the melted soldier on the circuit board and everything came right apart.

As far as the switches go, I could not use the power switch because it was a hard on off switch. Computers generally use a momentary push switch for their power button. The reset switch on the Super NES is a momentary switch, so I probably could have used that though. I am guessing that just about any switch that springs back to the off position should work.
Calico Jack in reply to vigothecarpathianJun 6, 2011. 1:47 PM
I'm pretty sure it's a weld, but I'm no expert. So you are probably right. It's probably solder. I'll have to take another look. Thanks for the quick response!
0fin says: Jun 5, 2011. 4:12 PM
do u need to the swithes or can u just plug it up and unplug it to turn on and off?
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to 0finJun 6, 2011. 7:22 AM
You generally don't want to unplug a computer when it is powered on, since there is a chance it can harm the computer. What you can do is set the computer to turn on when it is plugged in, and use the "shut down" command to turn off the computer. The frontend menu program I used, Mala, has the option to turn the computer off automatically when you quit the program.
0fin in reply to vigothecarpathianJun 6, 2011. 9:28 AM
the thing is i dont get how to setup mala
do i do it on the snes or my pc?
Dropkickmurphy says: May 10, 2011. 1:43 AM
First, I'd like to appreciate your great work - maybe the most useful consolemod I've seen so far!

Do you think it's possible to do the mod with a PAL console also?
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to DropkickmurphyJun 6, 2011. 7:08 AM
Thanks!! :)

I believe that a PAL console could possibly work, they were similiar size consoles. I think the US Super NES was a tad taller with it's "hump" in the middle though. I didn't make much use of this area, but certain motherboards have a taller heatsink that could possibly need that clearance.
dishinhof says: May 1, 2011. 11:31 PM
I love this design and i am starting my bill of materials for it. I was wondering, can you also run dos box to play all of the old dos games as well. I figured you could but i though id ask anyway.
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to dishinhofJun 6, 2011. 7:04 AM
Hi,

Sorry about the slow reply, I haven't been around computers much these days. Yes, dos box should run fine with this sort of setup. The only downside is many dos games might have a hard time mapping to a joypad. You can always work around this by using a program like xpadder or joy2key that will turn gamepad controls into keyboard strokes. xpadder also maps mouse controls as well I believe.
0fin says: May 8, 2011. 7:14 PM
whats a stick of ram
videogamemaster in reply to 0finMay 31, 2011. 9:15 AM
RAM Definiton:
RAM chips are basically over flow for a computer's hard drive. RAM chips provide extra memory (Which is mostly temporary) that helps relieve your hard drive's workload when you have a whole bunch of windows open at the same time. The extra memory makes your computerr run faster and allows you to run more windows at the same time without having your computer poot out.
janderson10 in reply to 0finMay 20, 2011. 9:16 AM
R.A.M - Random-access memory
Abcwtfidontcare in reply to 0finMay 17, 2011. 12:39 PM
*Laughs furiously over 0fin's lack of knowledge*
Ram is what makes machines run fast, by accessing memory from the stick; it can load a saved file.
It's not a USB type of stick, it's more like a microchip. Buy one on Ebay or something,
BuhBomb in reply to AbcwtfidontcareMay 24, 2011. 3:30 PM
But I thought Ebay sucks..............................
videogamemaster in reply to BuhBombMay 31, 2011. 9:11 AM
Not for this kinda stuff it doesn't.
BuhBomb in reply to videogamemasterMay 31, 2011. 8:00 PM
Okayayayayayayayayay.
videogamemaster in reply to BuhBombJun 1, 2011. 7:45 AM
Yep.
Jimpiedepimpie says: May 19, 2011. 5:13 AM
This basicly turns your super nes into a computer.
And then you run a emulator on it
Am i right?
janderson10 in reply to JimpiedepimpieMay 20, 2011. 9:15 AM
yes... this is correct.
0fin says: May 9, 2011. 7:00 PM
I SERIOUSLEY NEED A VIDEO EXPLAINING EVERYTHING
WITH THE SD CARD
0fin says: May 9, 2011. 2:56 PM
i cant find 4 or 5 and cant get the format tool to work
links???
0fin says: May 8, 2011. 7:58 PM
WHAT KIND OF CHERRY MICROSWITHCHES
I WANNA MAKE THIS BUT THERE ISNT ENOUGH DETAILS
0fin says: May 8, 2011. 7:56 PM
HOW MANY PINS DOES THE STICK OF RAM HAVE TOO HAVE?
0fin says: May 8, 2011. 7:51 PM
CAN U MAKE A VIDEO OF THIS OR A VIDEO OF SHOWING WHERE TO PUT EVERYTHING IN THE SUPER NES AND HOW TO INSTALL EVERTHING?
dishinhof says: May 4, 2011. 11:25 PM
Also, do you have 1 usb receiver per controller? Or is it just the 1 receiver for both contollers?
shaggs31 says: Apr 21, 2011. 10:36 AM
Don't get me wrong, this is impressive. But you can get emulators for all those consoles and more to work on a PC. I do not see the need to do this.
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to shaggs31Apr 21, 2011. 12:09 PM
There are a number of perks.

First, it is small, portable, and HDMI plug and play ready. With a computer, you generally have a larger tower or case that may not be that easy to set on you TV stand. You also need a computer with HDMI output. If you set a computer up on your television, you generally need to use keyboard and mouse to access each emulator, which can be a big hassle. With this project, everything is booted directly up into the menu and ready to use. You also can't easily bring your computer over to use at someone else's house or even a different TV without the hassle of carrying the tower, keyboard, mouse, and whatever you want to plug in and set up for controllers. I have brought my Super NES over to friend's houses with everything fitting easily inside a satchel. The system is very light as well (2lbs, 8 oz).

Another perk is that most people want to use real controls for their classic games. This uses official Super NES controllers, which were similiar enough to the NES style as well.

It also has a nostalgia wow factor as well. Going to a friend's house lugging a computer over and setting up an emulated game is not as fun as just bringing over the super nintendo, flicking it on, and start playing classics. Since this is solid state hardware, you won't even have the hum of fans going.

Cheers!
wintergoat in reply to vigothecarpathianApr 26, 2011. 5:51 AM
I have a solution to the dragging-a-huge-pc-to-your-friends-house issue... Buy a Mac Mini... They are smaller than your project, and use a tiny wireless keyboard and mouse... And there is probably a way to make the older controllers work with them... Maybe the same USB adaptor you used?
jogu in reply to wintergoatApr 29, 2011. 3:42 PM
Or an even better idea would be to just put those emulators on a flash drive and take that to a friends house! Or you could realize the point of the project is to make something cool and fun inside a SNES case.
AngryRedhead in reply to wintergoatApr 26, 2011. 6:55 PM
This might not be the super mosterest practical option for everyone, but this is about gaming and might be practical/awesome for at least some people. If you have a mac mini, go for it and write an Instructable where your colleagues can point out how your rig can be done a whole other way to accomplish roughly the same thing. Also, SNES consoles are pretty darn small and offer a bit of nostalgia for those of us who played them when they first came out.
northernmagnet says: Apr 27, 2011. 8:07 PM
i just had an amazing idea! (sorry if this defeats the purpose if this) but use 1UP's build you own portable system INST' http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Make-a-Portable-Game-System/
and this one and you have a portable PMGS (portable multi game system!)
just a thought also make a video out and make it HDMI (i'm terrible with HDMI stuff) again sorry if this is off topic
techmonster says: Apr 27, 2011. 8:03 AM
what kind of motherboard should i use? it looks like their prettymuch all 1.6ghz so does it really matter? is there a certain one that you would recommend
zack247 says: Apr 15, 2011. 6:44 PM
are those wireless controllers bluetooth?

this thing is sweet!
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to zack247Apr 19, 2011. 7:58 AM
Thanks! They are not bluetooth, but you could easily use bluetooth controllers if you wanted to. I just wanted to get the cheapest dual shock controllers out there, but anyone who wants to do a project like this can use whatever they want.
zack247 in reply to vigothecarpathianApr 19, 2011. 8:25 PM
i have wireless PS2 controllers, and a wireless Xbox 360 controller, i know thaat wii remotes are bluetooth, do you think those are too?
mitchell12 in reply to zack247Apr 25, 2011. 9:17 AM
The PS2 one Definitely isn't though you can get a USB adapter to use your 360 controller wirelessly on PC. PS3 controllers however can be made to work if you install some additional software.

I believe the PS3 controller software is called Motion Joy. It can be a bit of a pain but works great. (also works with USB plug) http://forums.motioninjoy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1186

A Wired 360 controller will work as well and is supported by microsoft. (get the latest Direct X)

If you have an Xbox original controller they are super easy to hack to USB, Simply Chop off the plug and splice it to a USB cable. Then use the XBCD drivers which can be found here. http://www.redcl0ud.com/xbcd.html
zack247 in reply to mitchell12Apr 25, 2011. 11:25 AM
i used to have some sort of game chair tht had come with a wired xbox 360 controller and a wireless ps3 controller, we got rid of the chair ages ago, but i have a few 360 controllers about..

another option, which is what i currently use for PC game controllers, is the Fusa Gamepad for custom firmware PSPs, it enables your PSP to be a PC game controller and ive found that it works quite well.
mitchell12 in reply to zack247Apr 25, 2011. 1:48 PM
Great Idea, There is also a few apps for android phones that will let you do the same, I've only used if for racing games and SNES but it works fine. The tilt sensors in most phones can make for an interesting play experience with some emulators though on screen controls work fine too.
Zacfo95 says: Mar 31, 2011. 2:58 PM
Great idea, I'm going to do something like it. But I do have one question. What do you use for power? I mean, you can't really use a regular PSU for this. What would I need to power this mobo? (http://tinyurl.com/nespc-mobo-cpu)

Thanks.
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to Zacfo95Apr 4, 2011. 10:58 AM
Hello! The mobo I bought specifically had a DC output and power supply that it came with. It was specifically designed for being put into a small case.

An option for a board without an onboard DC output would be to buy a PicoPSU. These are small DC circuits that will connect your mobo to a laptop power brick. The PicoPSU new will cost you about $25, and a power brick new can cost you another $25. The Pico is very small though, so it should be not take up much real estate in your machine.
kmakris in reply to vigothecarpathianApr 25, 2011. 12:28 PM
For PicoPSU & laptop brick how many watts should i be looking for for this kind of mobo?
also is this mobo appropriate for this prj?am kind of a noob at this stuff for now;p
http://discount-cabin.com/shop/product_info.php/zotac-gf9300-lga-775-nvidia-geforce-9300-hdmi-mini-itx-intel-motherboard-p-105567?currency=GBP&osCsid=bcca8084ffadcfce747191afae8d5297&osCsid=bcca8084ffadcfce747191afae8d5297

thanks
bacterium says: Apr 22, 2011. 1:18 PM
How much RAM do you have in your machine?
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to bacteriumApr 25, 2011. 6:49 AM
I used 1gb
builderkidj says: Apr 23, 2011. 10:08 AM
What a great idea!
Tomcat94 says: Apr 21, 2011. 6:16 AM
I still have the same SNES I had when I was four years old, and it still works just fine. So I'm not going to take it apart and make this, but instead, I'll just find a broken SNES (As in, broken beyond repair) at a thrift store and give it new life instead with this. After making my second MAME machine, I'd like to do something different like this. :)
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to Tomcat94Apr 21, 2011. 12:16 PM
MAME Machines are absolutely awesome, but sometimes it's nice having something to use while sitting on the couch. Good Luck with your project!
Tomcat94 in reply to vigothecarpathianApr 22, 2011. 6:23 AM
I have to ask, though... The operating system for the computer is Windows XP, right? Did you have to buy a retail disk for XP, or buy a validation code for it to be used? Or was there some other method that you used to get around it? (Not that I'm promoting piracy or anything, but the instructions were kind of vague on the windows validation portion of installing Windows XP) I'm on a pretty tight budget, so buying a 170 dollar motherboard with a 150 dollar product key for Windows is a bit out of my range...
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to Tomcat94Apr 22, 2011. 8:22 AM
I know how you feel. I was lucky enough have a retail XP disk and code from an old computer of mine. You will need to get a validation code to get XP to work. You can go an number of routes to do this project without paying full price on a copy of XP.

I would personally recommended checking eBay for a cheap copy of XP, just be sure to get one that comes with the validation code. I see some now that are currently going for $1.00, I'm not sure how much the bidding would go up on them though.

You can also try installing Ubuntu, which is a free to download Linux operating system. I is suppose to be easy to install and use. I tried once and gave up though.

I am not going to advocate piracy either, but if you do download a copy of XP with a serial off of some torrent site, there is a chance that it is not necessarily illegal. I am no legal advisor, so I could easily be wrong though. It is my understanding that if you bought a computer that came bundled with XP, a lot of times those copies come with securities that keep you from using the CD on a different computer if your first one breaks. You still purchased a 1 legal license to that version of Windows XP, and have a right to that version of Windows XP, even if you can't use your original disk. As long as you only use the 1 copy of windows XP at a time, you are not violating your 1 purchased license. The downloaded copy of windows XP would qualify as a personal backup.

I'm not trying to open a debate on license laws, so I just recommend checking eBay for a cheap copy of XP. :)


PS, I can't help but love the milk cap button you made! Very clever button you Macgyver'ed together!
Tomcat94 in reply to vigothecarpathianApr 22, 2011. 1:02 PM
I once tried to use Ubuntu for my MAME machine, and I gave up too. :P

I have a Windows XP Professional disk that I salvaged from the IT department of my old school, and never bothered to use it, so I might go grab a serial somewhere and use it for this (if I ever do)...

PS, my milk cap button is nothing compared to a SNES All-in-one gaming system. Just sayin'. :P

By the way, thanks!
thats mr sonic to you says: Apr 22, 2011. 9:21 AM
super cool but i my to stupid to know how to
morad10s says: Apr 20, 2011. 11:56 AM
¿QUE PUEDO HACER CON UNA CPU COMPAQ PRESARIO 7222?
Tomcat94 in reply to morad10sApr 22, 2011. 6:25 AM
Tu debes hable ingles, por favor... Seria mas facil para alguien que ayude a.
thunder strike says: Apr 15, 2011. 3:56 PM
sorry to be a critic, but, I detest that you would turn a very old game console, that is probably worth something and make it neary worth anything, sorry but, i would not want to reck a perfectly goo super nintendo to make one of these.
raith2006 in reply to thunder strikeApr 19, 2011. 6:47 AM
I agree, same deal with destroying NES cartridges to make routers, they don't make this stuff anymore and it doesn't exactly grow on trees, plus the emulator doesn't compare to the real thing, I still have my SNES and I have no plans to take it apart.
Bartboy in reply to raith2006Apr 19, 2011. 5:48 PM
Obviously not much of a gamer if you've never had a cartridge fail :P
raith2006 in reply to BartboyApr 20, 2011. 7:46 AM
I've been playing it for 15 years, the only problems have been when the cartridge gets dusty and that's an easy fix, I have had my save games get erased randomly on my super Mario world cartridge, but it worked perfectly ever since(I lost count of how many times I've beat the game, and that's getting the 96* on every save not just beating bowser), the only broken cartridge was one for the Atari 2600 and that one was broken when I got it second hand in a bundle of games, I have wrecked controllers, but the rest of the system still works great. the consoles they make now aren't nearly as durable as the ones they used to make.
Bartboy in reply to raith2006Apr 22, 2011. 3:33 AM
Consoles, definitely. Laser vs card reader.....

I've had gameboy games be so overplayed they just stop working. And not being rough, at all.
Xbox/Gamecube were the last generation of reliable consoles, and they won't last another 10 years like the SNES did.
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to raith2006Apr 19, 2011. 7:53 AM
Also, a note about the emulation. I have spend quite a few hours playing actual Nintendo and Super Nintendo cartridges side-by-side with this machine. I'm a perfectionist, so I want to be sure everything was running at 100%. The difference between the emulated games and the actual cartridge games are indecipherable. With the actual super nintendo controllers, I was not able to tell they difference at all when playing the emulated games.

Emulation has come a long way! :)
raith2006 in reply to vigothecarpathianApr 19, 2011. 9:30 AM
true, it has come a long way, but there still are differences with some games, especially if you try to set up a multiplayer game. As for scarcity, if this kinda thing gets too popular then you might end up making the system rare, kinda like endangered species except you can't breed super Nintendo's.
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to raith2006Apr 19, 2011. 11:45 AM
What kind of issues do you mean with multiplayer? The only issue I have ever seen is the limitation of inputs that can be pressed at once when using a keyboard as controls. With USB input, it shouldn't be a problem though.
raith2006 in reply to vigothecarpathianApr 22, 2011. 5:33 AM
I have the most experience with zsnes, the multiplayer for it is somewhat a pain to set up and doesn't seem to have local multiplayer, only networked, and setting some of the controls has been a pain especially while playing metroid, also the screen size is a bit annoying.
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to raith2006Apr 19, 2011. 7:49 AM
The way I look at it, you have to factor in obscurity and relevance before chopping into anything video game wise. I have probably seen over 5000 copies of John Madden football in my life, and have no problem with someone making something useful out of one. Heck, I know a guy who wallpapered his room with actual mario/duckhunt cartridges because he found a videogame reseller dumping 100's of them in a landfill.

A super NES is by no means a rare system, there are millions of them around, and re-purposing a broken one only respectfully adds new life to something that was otherwise dumpster bound.

sparks4289 in reply to thunder strikeApr 15, 2011. 9:27 PM
luckily the super nintendo isn't worth anything noteworthy. You can get old working ones for around 10 bucks. You could also just simply use one of the millions of broken ones out there. You just need the case.

You can also still buy super nintendo's brand new. They are off brand, but they are still being produced.

There is nothing rare nor valuable about a super nintendo.
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to thunder strikeApr 15, 2011. 7:20 PM
Well, what else should I have done with an old broken Super NES? Put it behind a glass case? It's not even a rare system, there were 49 million of them sold.

Also, look at the video or read the text, those are not PC games being played.
Tkdwn says: Apr 22, 2011. 1:56 AM
Instead of the solid state adapter, you could boot everything from an usb memory stick, if that borard suports it. Nice idea, i was just watching for a custom mini computer case. Nice project, and nicely done. :)
cbranum says: Apr 20, 2011. 12:01 PM
Does anyone have any suggestions for a cheaper mini ITX motherboard? The Zotac is pretty spendy...
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to cbranumApr 21, 2011. 12:21 PM
I would like to know if anyone has any suggestions as well, apparently this motherboard went up in price since I purchased it. :(

Pretty much it must meet these three criteria:

Have HDMI output
Have a external power supply, like a laptop
Be no more than 4cm tall. This height might be able to be fudged a little if the height is all in the center taller area of the Super NES, where the cartridge slot is.

If anyone has any suggestions, I please share! :)
reptedjess says: Apr 1, 2011. 8:44 AM
So, you have to go pro to get the PDF. Is there any way you could send it to me?
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to reptedjessApr 19, 2011. 8:10 AM
The only PDF that you need to be a pro member to get is the one to view all steps in one PDF.

The supplimental PDF for installing XP on a SD to SATA drive on the bottom of step 6 should be something that you can download.

There is also an appendix on the bottom of step 8 that you should be able to download as well. Let me know if you still have trouble with these files.
reptedjess in reply to vigothecarpathianApr 19, 2011. 11:04 PM
Ok, I see it now. They make it kind of look like an add or something, so I didn't pay any attention to it.
Thanks
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to reptedjessApr 20, 2011. 6:27 AM
No Problem!
chance313 says: Apr 20, 2011. 12:36 AM
Wow, this is awesome!
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to chance313Apr 20, 2011. 6:26 AM
Thanks!
hyruler_ says: Apr 19, 2011. 5:35 PM
this is awsome.......
and is this your design???
zippydaspinhead says: Apr 11, 2011. 10:15 AM
Just an idea, but I know that in applications such as this XP probably isn't the best choice of OS. For the system resources and to save space on your SD I would recommend some form of Linux. Uses less space and less computer resources to run (less ram processor time ect.). Doesn't really require any more technical know how than is already being utilized.

Love the project and idea :)
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to zippydaspinheadApr 19, 2011. 8:07 AM
Thanks! Yep, you could easily use Linux to run this system, and that was actually my plan early on. I went with XP because I was having difficulty at the time installing any operating system onto an SD card. After trial and error, XP was the first I was able to get installed. The good thing about XP is that it can be small too, but you have to chop it all out yourself manually.

No matter what, it's good to put out there that Linux is a very good option for anyone interested in make something like this! Thanks!
Calico Jack says: Apr 16, 2011. 5:41 PM
Could you use something along the lines of a laptop hard drive instead of an sd card? Assuming you could find a place to mount it. But just in theory, would something like that be possible?
ScubaSteve in reply to Calico JackApr 18, 2011. 2:05 PM
Of course. The only reason he picked an SD to SATA adapter was probably price, and maybe speed.
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to ScubaSteveApr 19, 2011. 7:57 AM
Yep. You could use a laptop hard drive, I think it would fit just fine. Price was definitely the biggest factor with going with the SD to SATA. I also like the fact that the machine is completely solid state. There was something nice about those old console systems when they didn't have any moving parts. The only way you could tell if they were on was if you saw the red power LED was lit.
cbranum says: Apr 17, 2011. 5:06 PM
Would this work with a Super Famicom as well?
Vinsu says: Apr 16, 2011. 12:13 PM
Holy Thor! When do they start to sell these in Best Buy's? I'm drowling...
musick_08 says: Apr 16, 2011. 7:35 AM
Awh man you beat me to it! I was gonna make an instructable like this except i was gonna make a custom game console case so its like a whole new console. But great instructable!
tmarket1 says: Apr 14, 2011. 8:06 PM
This machine is the greatest thing I have ever seen!!

If I build one will it help me get a girlfriend?
snowluck2345 in reply to tmarket1Apr 15, 2011. 10:12 PM
It will definitely help you get a girlfriend, I have no problem getting girlfriends now that I built one of these, doing gymnastics and being a level 10 with an 8 pack might help
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to tmarket1Apr 15, 2011. 7:36 AM
You'll have a hot girl for each arm after you are done with this project. No need for good looks, social skills, a fast car, or even hygiene when you have one of these babies. Trust me!

You just have to learn to impress women with this machine's capabilities. Let her know that your Super Nes holds over 18 Mega Man titles, has the ultra rare, unreleased in the US, Secret of Mana 3 and then finish up by letting her know it is all completely solid state hardware under the hood. She will be all yours, dude!

My last bit of advice is that women love the game "Altered Beast"..they go crazy over it. It must have something to do with those Twilight books. Tell a girl that you would like to spend the evening collecting power orbs with her so that you can transform into golden werewolves and storm Neff's palace. She will know what you mean! ;)
tmarket1 in reply to vigothecarpathianApr 15, 2011. 6:46 PM
Hey this thing is a chick magnet!! It worked like a charm. I just had to mention my Zotac motherboard and the ladies melted away.
thunder strike says: Apr 15, 2011. 4:08 PM
it sais unoversal but apperently it is only for pc games that can be mapped on a controller with about, 10 buttons. that are not speed sensitive, you might as well play this on a computer than reck a perfectly good super nintendo,
tmarket1 in reply to thunder strikeApr 15, 2011. 6:23 PM
Dude, I got like 6 old super nintendos and probably a dozen NES machines I have picked up at garage sales and goodwill (mostly for the controllers and games). I must be sitting on a pot-o-gold huh?

I haven't pulled out those machines in years, although a game of Tecmo Super Bowl sounds great right about now. I'd gladly sacrafice an old shell to be able to play these classics in style. Of course you could play these on PC, but the point is - how cool is it to have everything assembled in an old SNES!! That's not only style, but all the classics at your fingertips. Anyone who loved these systems should appreciate that.
the_TRUE_LINK_OWNZ! says: Apr 13, 2011. 8:46 PM
HELLZ YESH!!! OoT!!
Calico Jack says: Apr 8, 2011. 8:03 AM
What wireless controllers did you use? And where did you get your microswitches from?
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to Calico JackApr 8, 2011. 8:23 AM
The wireless controllers were the cheapest ones I could find, but they work well enough, they were $12.99 from Virtual Village

http://www.virtualvillage.com/wireless-dualshock-usb-gamepad-for-pc-2-4g-C07400-075.html?utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=shcomp

I don't specifically remember where I got the microswitches from, because I collect arcade parts. You can just do a google search for "cherry microswitch" and there will be quite a few options. I noticed some for sale on ebay. It would cost me $3.60 after shipping for 2 switches.

http://compare.ebay.com/like/140480934209?var=binlv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&rvr_id=223817462545&crlp=1_263602_324952&UA=WXS%3F&GUID=965aada912e0a47a4480fe90ff25e0d2&itemid=140480934209&ff4=263602_324952
Calico Jack in reply to vigothecarpathianApr 8, 2011. 11:09 PM
Thanks!

Also, could you possibly use four wireless controllers instead of the original controllers? I prefer the classic feel, but I was curious if it was possible.

And where could I find those computer case wires for the power switches? I don't entirely know what it is they are called, and I dont have any cases that are unaccounted for, so I'm at a loss when searching for them.
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to Calico JackApr 11, 2011. 7:02 AM
I would think 4 wireless controllers would work. Using two works fine, but I can't say 4 will work with 100% confidence because I never tried.

As for the computer case wires, I personally just pulled from an old computer case, but you can buy them new. This link has a kit with wires for the power switch, reset switch, and LED lights:

http://www.ecost.com/detail.aspx?edp=44678374&source=EWBBASE&cm_mmc=CSE-_-google-_-ewbbase-_-Computer&CAWELAID=366991383

Calico Jack in reply to vigothecarpathianApr 11, 2011. 7:43 AM
Thanks!
slithien says: Apr 5, 2011. 11:49 PM
Wow! I would love to build this but i dont have the time, monny or skills required.
coppeis says: Mar 31, 2011. 2:42 PM
A link to the adapeter would be nice and thanks and great instructable!
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to coppeisMar 31, 2011. 10:24 PM
Thanks! It was just purchased from Amazon.com

http://www.amazon.com/SNES-Controller-Adapter-USB-Super-NES/dp/B002IXZ5DE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1301635297&sr=8-2
coppeis in reply to vigothecarpathianApr 1, 2011. 1:59 PM
Thanks
iscroman says: Mar 31, 2011. 2:03 PM
What a great project! Congratulations!

How much do you charge to send me a similar "console" to Mexico?

Thanks.
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to iscromanMar 31, 2011. 10:44 PM
Hey, thanks so much for the compliments. Sorry, I'm not selling any of these, It's not too hard to make you own though!

Thanks!
Vigo the Carpathian
spweasel says: Mar 28, 2011. 10:03 AM
Great for a first submission, but I have one question.

Wouldn't booting straight to a USB Flash Drive give you better speed and bypass the cost of the SD-SATA adapter? I was under the impression that most modern BIOS could be set up to boot from USB instead of a real HD..
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to spweaselMar 28, 2011. 10:25 AM
That's a good question! Generally speaking, you are right, you can. I personally had a hard time loading from a USB drive on the Zotac motherboard, and gave up. Using the SD card drive was just much easier for me, and the adapter was only $19.

As for speed, I thought the SD card would be faster since it connects via SATA instead of USB. I could be wrong, but I was very pleased with the speed; it can boot up in under a minute and load games quickly.

No matter what, I'm sure a USB drive would work great if the motherboard accepts the drive.
spweasel in reply to vigothecarpathianMar 28, 2011. 12:24 PM
While SATA is much faster than USB 2.0, you'll still be limited by the SD card's speed. SD is slower than USB 2.0, so I would imagine you should see some improvement from the switch, although booting up is probably still limited by other factors (RAM, processor speed, etc.).

I'd need access to the board to figure out how easily you could boot from USB - you might need to switch to a more live-friendly OS like Ubuntu to get the whole thing working. The only real loss by switching to a different OS is you'll need a new front end.
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to spweaselMar 28, 2011. 10:03 PM
Thanks, spweasel. I think you are right, SD cards can be limited in speed. Using a USB would be an easy change in plans for anyone who wanted to go with a USB drive instead. You are right that most modern motherboards can boot from USB as well.

I have personally installed Windows and Ubuntu on a flash drive for a couple computers, but I still wasn't able to get it to work on this motherboard. It did seem to have USB booting options in the BIOS as well. It probably just user error in this case, haha!

For anyone planning on doing this project, you can probably use a USB drive just fine, and even squeeze in some better speed - however, my method does get satisfactory speeds for booting up and running the classic games.
ljdarten in reply to vigothecarpathianMar 31, 2011. 8:37 AM
I've had a bunch of experience getting computers to boot to different media (usb, cd, network, etc) on different models and I hear ya. it can be a huge pain sometimes. usb boot often needs to be setup in two or even three different places in the bios.

as for speed, I can't imagine any of the media mentioned would become a bottleneck. I don't think any of the systems being emulated could go too fast for them.
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to ljdartenMar 31, 2011. 10:39 PM
Thanks! I was ready to pull out my hair over the usb install. I've been really pleased with the SD card drive, so all turned out just fine. The emulation software isn't exactly demanding on my HD, so the SD drive was perfect for this project!
Dream Dragon says: Mar 28, 2011. 4:36 AM
A very interesting, and well documented project, thanks for sharing it.
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to Dream DragonMar 28, 2011. 10:26 AM
Thanks Dream Dragon! I appreciate it! ^_^
SWV1787 says: Mar 28, 2011. 7:34 AM
Can you mod one that will play PS1, and PS2 games as well?
spweasel in reply to SWV1787Mar 28, 2011. 10:11 AM
This should be able to handle PS1 games... if you can find the room. 16GB isn't a ton of space when bulky PSX disk images are involved, but the specs look good enough to run ePSXe in a playable state.

Don't get your hopes up for PS2 games, though. Not only do the disk images take up a ton of space (you'd need either a real HDD or a DVD drive), PS2 emulation is still fairly terrible (especially on a budget computer like this one).
ac1D in reply to SWV1787Mar 28, 2011. 10:03 AM
And Xbox, and gamecube, of course! Anything with an emulator will work. If the computer you used support it, of course.
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to ac1DMar 28, 2011. 10:50 AM
Yep, anything could work, as long as the computer is can handle it. This project is specifically geared to play older console systems, so I looked at low cost instead of high speed. I'm sure you could make a machine to play newer games, but it would cost more. The 16 GB drive is not going to hold many modern games, but you could add an external drive. You would also need much more RAM and you would have to make sure the motherboard would have a fast enough graphics card built in.
ac1D in reply to vigothecarpathianMar 30, 2011. 2:30 AM
If you want to keep it fearly cheap, you could get yourself a netbook (I got the HP mini, for $250) and it does handle recent game (dreamcast, xbox, gamecube, wii!, nds, ..) with a decent fps (it's really playable).
For that cost you could probably build an even better desktop too, but as the netbook itself fit in the snes case, and it is battery powered, it could make another interresting hack. A snes with a screen =-)
vigothecarpathian (author) in reply to ac1DMar 30, 2011. 8:21 AM
That's a really cool idea! Have a Super NES with a LCD screen built in! You could put the thing in the back of any car and just play since it is battery powered. Perfect use for a netbook!
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