UV LED Exposure Box

 by djhamer
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How to build an Ultra Violet Exposure box using LED's.

Your last Veroboard project!

A UV exposure box is an extremely useful piece of kit. It can be used to make proper PCB's. It can also be used to make other things such as intricate photo etched parts (a subject for another instructable). The trouble is they can be a little pricey for the hobby enthusiast especially if you want the double side type.
This instructable outlines the construction of a double sided UV exposure box using the recent generation of high brightness UV LEDs.

Why use LEDs?
LEDs are far more energy efficient than either incandescent or fluorescent lamps offering between 5-10 times more efficiency making them cheaper to run and kinder to the environment. They also (unlike fluorescent tubes) do not contain mercury. LEDs have a far greater life span than the other types of lamp measured in decades rather than months. The frequencies being emitted are also in a tighter band making UV LEDs safer than the traditional UV tubes. There's also just something cool about LEDs, I can't put my finger on it, but ever since I was a kid I've found them to be one of the more fascinating electronic components.

Is there a disadvantage to using LEDs?
Not really, however the UV exposure box I have detailed here is a little less powerful than the commercially available ones. This means that your exposure times will be around 2 ~ 3 minutes as opposed to 30 ~ 40 seconds, but come on, do you really need your PCB's to be produced that quickly? Anyway sometimes having a slightly slower exposure time can be an advantage allowing you a little more control.

This UV Exposure box will consist of 2 UV panels; each having 84 LEDs a total of 168 LEDs. Each panel will draw about 700mA at 12v. This makes each panel 8.4watts a total of 16.8 watts for the whole thing.
 
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Step 1: Materials

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The most critical parts of this project are the UV LEDs, you are looking for 5mm Ultra Violet LED 2000mcd 395nm, 3.4V 20~25mA.
I bought two 100psc packs from eBay.
If you find something better then ensure that they are;
- At least 2000mcd in brightness
- Have a peak wavelength of less than 400nm.
- A viewing angle of at least 20 degrees.

You will also need 2x 160mm x 100mm pieces of Veroboard and 56x 75R resistors.
Another important choice is the PSU. I used a plug in, 12 volt 24 watt switch mode power supply. Switch mode power supply's are far more energy efficient than most other types and are also very stable.

All the other parts and materials are easy to find. Some I bought, some I salvaged. This is where you own judgement and taste comes in. In the end it's up to you how closely you follow my design. I've included all the CAD drawings and schematics as metafiles so they're easier to read when you print them out.
jeddar says: Dec 22, 2011. 10:45 AM
I have a question, would the output from this UV box be enough for it to be used as a sterilizer box? I do my own beer/wine brewing and I'd love to be able to fit a rig I could use to sterilize equipment in between batches..
brsullivan in reply to jeddarMay 17, 2013. 11:17 AM
Sterilization also takes place at 365nm, however, to get the type of power needed would require a much more robust, i.e. $$$, set of LEDs that can output some real power. You'd also have to do some extensive testing to make sure sterilization is taking place, the research articles I've seen were using 15 to 30 minutes exposures to achieve complete sterilization of bacteria.

I think using a non-toxic spray method would be a lot quicker and cheaper in the end.
CODIY in reply to jeddarJan 21, 2012. 7:37 AM
No, the wavelength for sterilization is much shorter than this type of LED can emit (<300 nm where these are likely closer to 400 nm). UV LEDs for sterilization are expensive and difficult to find in small batches.
MFXPYRO says: May 12, 2013. 3:43 PM
I built a double sided UV exposure box with vacuum pulldown around 10 years ago using tubes and it is still going strong without replacing the tubes. Also my box will do boards up to A3 size, How many LED's and what would they cost for an A3 sized double sided unit? Yes they're more energy efficient but no one is going to have a unit running for more than a few minutes at a time so cost is negligible. You've made a nice looking unit but I just can't see any real benefit of LED's over tubes both in cost and construction time. TBH. Hopefully I'll post an indestructible of my unit soon but as I built it so long ago I'll need to dismantle it for photos.
Aquafuz says: Apr 21, 2013. 6:39 AM
I'm a bit lazy to research this so I guess I'll just ask,
Which will give better and faster results; total watts, total mcd or both?
lsilva14 says: Apr 4, 2013. 1:33 PM
I managed to finish this project, but with some mods of my own :p

Instead of painting the wood white, I covered it with metallic duck tape which gives me extra brightness.

I also tested some pcb that usually take 120s in a retail exposure box with UV lamps and they took the same 120s in my box with the LED.

Thanks for the idea and the design, it is excellent!
Peterflick says: Mar 28, 2013. 8:44 AM
So i found some LEDs but they peak at 400-405nm, everything else checks out. Will they still work?
Jake313 says: Mar 16, 2013. 7:59 AM
Awesome project! Are those Metal Film Resisters?
Jakob2803 says: Sep 16, 2012. 1:46 PM
Looks very nice, I might copy your project and make a scaled-down version! ;)
agodinhost says: May 30, 2011. 6:21 PM
Hi, please, were did you bought your leds? I did looked in ebay but I can't say for sure that those leds there really have 20º view angle. All leds that I found there are kinda suspicious, chinese cheap fake stuff, even tough they say they are 20º I can't trust. I'm in Brazil and at here ebay is the more easy way to get electronics by a decent price but not in this case.
quillby in reply to agodinhostAug 24, 2012. 4:41 AM
I found these in Germany. They are more expensive, but because of the angle of 120° they are more suitable for illuminating flat surfaces. This is exactly what we need. http://www.ebay.nl/itm/50-UV-Leds-4-8mm-120-200mcd-Led-STRAWHEAD-schwarzlicht-ultraviolett-/370543226494?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item564618ee7e#ht_1926wt_1139
rlorenzo says: Oct 11, 2011. 4:03 AM
can i just use a normal LED.....?
techxpert in reply to rlorenzoJul 10, 2012. 2:01 AM
no because a normal coloured LED does not operate at the right frequency to be used for this purpose due to the wavelengths being different this diagram i found on google images shows the uses of the wavelength. :)
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rlorenzo says: Oct 11, 2011. 3:59 AM
can i just use normal LED's ??? this parts are hard to find here back in Pilippines.

andrewmosqueda in reply to rlorenzoOct 13, 2011. 4:55 PM
UV LED is available at e-gizmo (taft ave, along DLSU). 3.50 PHP a piece.
dwah says: Oct 13, 2011. 9:53 AM
this glass too thick for LED UV going pass thur glass..
Vogavt says: Jul 7, 2010. 7:52 PM
I built the box, but I seem to keep blowing LED's. I'm using the supplier that you recommeded and everything appears to be okay. However, I noticed that when I turn off the wall-wart type 12v power supply, I have some latent voltage residing on the board. I can see some residual glowing of some of the LED's immediately after turning the unit off. It does eventually fade out, but if I turn the unit back on too quickly, I have a bright flash of the LED's. It's as if there is a capacitor somewhere that's holding current in the 12v transformer. Any ideas or suggestions to bleed off the current? I'm a newbie at these sort of things.
Vogavt in reply to VogavtJul 11, 2010. 5:33 AM
Okay. After surfing around the web I've found out what a "Bleed Resistor" is, but I haven't been able to find out definitively how to calculate the amount of resistance needed or exactly where to put it in the circuitry. Any suggestions would be welcomed.
panic mode in reply to VogavtDec 30, 2010. 11:57 PM
Why guess resistors? Calculate:

Most efficient way is to use make strings of few LEDs in series with resistor (and you can connect many such strings in parallel)

R=(V-n*Vf)/If

P=R*(If)^2

where

R= resistance (Ohms)
V= power supply voltage (Volts)
Vf= LED forward voltage drop (usually about 2.2-3.8V for most LED, read specs)
If= LED forward current (usually 20mA, read datasheet)
n=number of LEDs in series (in one string)
P = resistor power (Watts, minimum rating)

note: you should aim to get the voltage difference to be about 2V:
(V-n*Vd) ~ 2V

reason:
if the difference is greater, the more energy is wasted into heat by resistor (you need more powerful resistor and power supply).
if the difference is too small you loose current regulation because LEDs are non-linear device.

calculation example, assuming you are using

V=12V
Vf=3.2V
If=0.020A (that is 20mA)
n=3

R=(12-3*3.2)/0.020=120 Ohm
P=120*0.02^2=0.048W (you can use 1/8W or 1/4W without problem)

note how P is small. that is because we have (12-3*3.2)=2.4V

using large resistors makes no sense because to get current to match spec, you would need high voltage (this is not just dangerous but also means that most of the energy is wasted in heat so those resistors would have to be for high power).

for example using same scenario
Vf=3.2V
If=0.020A (that is 20mA)
n=3
R=47k

we would need resistor to have power rating of at least
P=47000*0.020^2=18.8W

(and that was just power three LEDs)

Also DC power supply would need to provide much higher voltage which is
V=n*Vf + R*If
V=3*3.2 + 47000*0.020
V=9.6 + 940
V=949.6V

That is way too much just for poweering few LEDs.

So that was introduction for current limiting resistors.
For bleeding resistors we calculate it from time constant.

t=RC

where
t = time (seconds)
C=capacitor in power supply
R= resistor (note this is combined resistance of load and bleed resistor)

R=t/C=Rb*Rc/(Rb+Rc)

Rc=V/(m*If) this is load resistance (for m LED strings drawing current If)
Rb=bleed resistor

Say you have simple 12V PSU with bridge rectifier and 10000uF capacitor and 6 LED strings drawing 20mA

C=0.010 F
m=6
Rc=12/(6*0.020)=100 Ohm

Without bleeding resistor t=RC=0.010 * 100= 1 seconds
which is shourt enough

adding bleed resstor in parallel, we can bleed the capacitor faster (total resistance is smaller and t=RC is smaller).

Say we use Rb=18 Ohm

R=18*100(18+100)=15.25 Ohm

t=RC=15.25 * 0.010 = 0.1525 sec

so turn off time was reduced by about 6x.

note that value of bleed resistor was quite small. usinglarge value such as 10k or 47k would not make any difference.

also keep in mind power disipated by bleed resistor P=12^2/18=8W
(which is more than used power for LED circuit in this example).

good luck
IRQ_VET in reply to panic modeSep 4, 2011. 10:16 PM
http://youtu.be/qPt0X5s-1JU
djhamer (author) in reply to VogavtAug 15, 2010. 8:01 AM
You’ll need to put your bleed resistor across the whole circuit, i.e. between the + and – supply. Make sure its in the 10s of K ohms e.g. 47Kohms.
dedson1 says: Aug 17, 2011. 11:14 AM
By varying the types of LEDs to get the proper output you could also use this as a light box for seasonal affective disorder. Just a thought.
djhamer (author) in reply to dedson1Aug 28, 2011. 9:15 AM
I really wouldn't, UV is very bad for your eyes. The amount of UV energy coming out of this lamp is more than enough to do some damage. Even a few second is enough to cause discomfort. Since the consecration of light intensity is in a band invisible to the human eye, your eyes cannot adjust properly and you natural reaction to look away as you would if you looked at the also does not occur.
agodinhost says: May 30, 2011. 6:26 PM
There is a site that provides one wizard to help you with any different setup in mind: http://led.linear1.org/led.wiz

Just enter your number of leds and the wizard will help you to decide the resistors, the arrange of leds and the PSU that you will need.

My 5 cents, I hope it helps.

Cool instructable by the way, really cool stuff.
rykonen in reply to agodinhostJun 27, 2011. 6:46 AM
Love the link.
rykonen says: May 15, 2011. 2:00 PM
I love this instructable. How do I figure out how much power my LED's will need? I want to do four times the amount you have here... Could I just repeat the LED corn rows a few more times before I run it to the 12v ? (That idea doesn't seem right some how...)
Nazdro in reply to rykonenMay 20, 2011. 5:57 AM
Hi,

I'll assume you're using the same kind of LEDs and resistors that are specified then for every veroboard you've got 84 LEDs in bundles of three connected in parallel. Thus for every bundle you've got a forward current of:

I_f = (12V - 3x3.4V)/75ohm = 1.8/75 =24mA

So one veroboard, with 84 LEDs, will draw a current of

I_vero = (84/3)x24mA = 672mA

So if I've understood you correctly you wish to have 8 veroboards of UV LEDs then after you've connected them in parallel the total power drawn from the source would become:

P_total = 12Vx(8x672mA) = 12Vx5.375mA = 64.5W

So you'd need a 12V 65+W power supply, though to be on the safe side I'd personally use a 75W. Though as I said, you might be using LEDs with a different forward voltage so here's a formula where V_f is the forward voltage of your diodes:

P_total = 2304(4-V_f)/25 W
rykonen in reply to NazdroMay 21, 2011. 9:35 AM
Looks like I will be able to use certain laptop chargers, as some of them have these exact specifications. Very cool. Thanks again.
Nazdro in reply to rykonenMay 21, 2011. 11:23 AM
You're welcome, and I hope it works out for you :D. Though as with all such things, take care that everything is unplugged when you're working on it. 5 amperes are quite the punch if they ever decide you're the path of least resistance.

Just out of curiosity, what kind of setup needs that big an exposure surface?
rykonen in reply to NazdroMay 21, 2011. 12:24 PM
The box I have is big and I want to be able to make stencils for screen printing, as well as other things like guitar amps and synthesizers in the future... :) oh summer!
rykonen in reply to NazdroMay 21, 2011. 9:29 AM
Wow, thank you! That was incredibly helpful. It's nice to hear these formulas from a couple different places to get the application correct.
Pyroflea says: Feb 7, 2011. 1:52 PM
Would I bet better off having a 7 x 7 grid of 7000mcd LEDs, or a 10 x 10 grid of 3000mcd LEDs? I don't make very large boards, so both are of adequate size. I get get either configuration for the same price, so I'm just curious which to go with.
DeanM87 says: Feb 6, 2011. 9:08 AM
Hi, nice instructable! was just wondering, where you got your LEDs? well, ebay obviously! but what seller? ot Store? there are many but most dont list all the specs. some leave out hte mcd! some leave out the wavelength! one store i found was TopBright LED store. is that the place you got yours?

Regards,
Dean
loluengo says: Jan 28, 2011. 1:47 PM
Has anyone had experience using this UV lamp for curing UV solder mask? Is it enough powerful for this use?

Great instructable!
wdfitz2000 says: Nov 15, 2010. 4:52 PM
Looks like a good project, think I'll try it. Does anyone know an easy way to align the front and back transparancies (masks)?

Don
andreq says: Jun 7, 2009. 2:25 PM
Great instructable! Here is my first ever PCB using this method. I was previously making them by hand. I'll never go back to sharpies! I've built a simple UV light box using an average size plastic shoe box and 35UV led (30degree view angle). I've made some calculation, but in the end I've just placed the led 1 inch apart as it seemed to light more uniformly. This is my "test pattern" From left to right, 30 seconds to 5 minutes exposure time. The Second picture is a close-up of the best result, 3:30 minutes I'm using 3 layer of ink jet transparencies. 1 print is black, one is photo green and the third is black. I've read somewhere that photo green should have some UV repellent in it. Anyway, the result where perfect! p.s. See full size images for better comparison
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Physika in reply to andreqSep 20, 2010. 5:41 PM
Andreq, could you tell me what was the mcd output of the LEDs you used?
andreq in reply to PhysikaSep 20, 2010. 6:11 PM
I used a mix of

http://www.bivar.com/product-details.asp?PartNo=UV5TZ-400-30

and

http://www.bivar.com/product-details.asp?PartNo=UV5TZ-395-30

Hope this can help :D
hamstanz in reply to andreqNov 13, 2010. 8:40 PM
Do these work well ? And how long does it take to expose a board ?
Thanks
andreq in reply to hamstanzNov 14, 2010. 8:20 AM
As I said in my comment, I use 3 layer of ink on my transparency + 3:30 exposure time.

They work pretty well for me!

You should make your own test pattern with 30sec exposure increment because I might not be using the same photo resist PCB clad board. Each brand is different.

Good luck
Physika in reply to andreqSep 20, 2010. 6:55 PM
Thank you very much. I went to the site and checked out the datasheet, which was interesting. The emission spectra are only 10-20 nm wide, which is great. Also, they give the output in mW....20 mW output typical. With a forward voltage of 3.4V and a recommended forward current of 15mA, this means it is about 40% efficient in converting electrical energy to UV.
djhamer (author) in reply to andreqJun 19, 2009. 6:06 AM
Nice one! It looks like you got some really good results. I like the tip about the green layer. I usually use the laser printer at work but I want to experiment with using my home ink jet. Isn't 3 layers a little overkill though?
andreq in reply to djhamerJun 24, 2009. 9:07 PM
Here is my first "real" PCB. It's a simple PSU for an audio amp I'm currently building. I really like the result I get from my ghetto plastic shoe box :). I should post picture of the box itself.
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andreq in reply to djhamerJun 20, 2009. 5:44 AM
Hi, I think 2 layer could be enough, but as I'm relaying on Internet for most of my information about UV Pcb making, I've read somewhere that 3 layer give pretty good result... and now I'm mostly convinced! If you don't want to waste too much transparency paper here is the method I use : 1. Print on normal paper the 3 layer close enough so it doesn't use too much area. 2. Cut a piece of transparency paper the size of the area printed. 3. Tape it to the normal paper making sure there is no tape on the pattern. 4. Reprint on the same normal paper with taped transparency paper on top. 5. Untape and cut transparency to size. 6. Align the 3 layer with some light (I use my LCD screen) and tape them making sure no tape is on the pattern (but it's not too much of a problem). Than you have a nice "thick" 3 layer ultra opaque pattern! Also, it's not mandatory to have everything flash when exposing. I mean, it should be quite flat, but for this test pattern I've moved the top piece of glasses (not on purpose) so up and down and it gave pretty good result!
andreq in reply to andreqJun 7, 2009. 2:27 PM
Ho and by the way, the smallest trace is 6mil (!!!) and it's perfectly etched! I guess I could go crazier and use 2-3 mil line, but that's overkill for my homemade PCB :)
hamstanz says: Jul 7, 2010. 2:24 AM
Do you not mean 200 mcd brightness ?
djhamer (author) in reply to hamstanzAug 15, 2010. 7:51 AM
No, I definitely mean 2000mcd. I know LEDs with the specs I provided aren’t the most common but they are sill fairly easy to obtain. Just keep digging and you’ll find them soon enough.
Physika in reply to djhamerSep 20, 2010. 5:29 PM
I am wondering if anyone has deeper info about these 2000mcd UV leds. They use similar currents and have similar voltage drops as the 150-200mcd uv leds, and similar view angles. Thus their consumed power is about the same, but their efficiency is about 10 times higher. This seems implausible. I suspect they have a spectrum that includes much more visible light, which increases the mcd value without adding useful uv light. Anyone have more info? BTW - great post djhamer!
f2a says: Aug 12, 2010. 9:49 AM
Nice design, however it wasn't big enough for me. Also I didn't need to do double sided boards. I made a uv light box out of a cigar box that turned out great. Here are some pictures if interested:
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djhamer (author) in reply to f2aAug 15, 2010. 7:43 AM
That looks really good. Have you made any PCBs yet? I’d love to see some photos as and when you do.
f2a in reply to djhamerAug 15, 2010. 1:22 PM
No I haven't made any pcbs yet, but I'll post some pictures when I do! I should add, if you are going to make one out of a cigar box you have to use flat top leds. Otherwise the light won't be even. With flat top leds you can get even light from much closer which should also allow for quick exposure times due to higher power. I also cut a piece of acrylic to fit inside the box to flatten the transparency onto the pcb. Does anyone have any good eagle test patterns? I need to make one so I can do some tests.
casper_2010 says: Aug 13, 2010. 2:35 AM
hi there, i was wondering how big your veroboards are? seems like a great instructable, just ordered myself some uv leds to make one cheers
djhamer (author) in reply to casper_2010Aug 15, 2010. 7:33 AM
Hi, I used 2 pieces of 160mm x 100mm veroboard. Good luck with your build.
bogdanfirst says: Jun 24, 2010. 12:34 PM
I have made a similar UV box, with some improvement, too! Thanks for the idea! Check it out: http://www.electrobob.com/uv-exposure-box-part-1-the-box/
djhamer (author) in reply to bogdanfirstJun 25, 2010. 12:30 PM
I checked it out, nice one. I particularly like the safety switch I thought about adding something like that but I’m still experimenting. I have some laser goggles to protect my eyes but at some point I am going to need to add some built in safety.
bogdanfirst in reply to djhamerJun 25, 2010. 3:44 PM
That switch provides a simple and effective way to make it safe, as long as nobody tampers with it, goggles are harder to obtain and cost more. These safety measures should come as a second protection, first line is actually us, not opening the box and staring at uv lights turned on.
Munchys says: Jun 17, 2010. 7:35 PM
Could i tan my finger in this?
djhamer (author) in reply to MunchysJun 25, 2010. 12:18 PM
You sure could. It might take a while. If your front door faces east you’d be better off sticking you fingers through your letter box on sunny mornings. Or, if you work in an office, photocopy your hands every time you walk past the copier.
phoenix62_80 says: May 10, 2010. 12:15 PM
Great work, thanks for the instructable. I'm in the process of getting all the kit together to build one.  As a point though the photograph of the resistor is of a 65 ohm resistor and not 75 ohm as mentioned in the text.  65 ohm resistors are quite hard to get hold of!
djhamer (author) in reply to phoenix62_80May 30, 2010. 7:22 AM
The resistors are definitely 75 ohm, I double checked.
Purple=7, Green=5, Black=0, Gold= /10 and  Brown=1%.
phoenix62_80 in reply to djhamerJun 3, 2010. 3:37 PM
I agree with what you have typed, the colours you mention definitely are the code for a 75 ohm resistor, however the picture you have submitted in the instructable to my eyes clearly shows a 65 ohm resistor - blue(6), green(5), black(*1) and thats what I was trying to point out. 
djhamer (author) in reply to phoenix62_80Jun 25, 2010. 12:10 PM
I don’t mean to contradict you but it looks purple to me. Maybe your monitors colour balance is different to mine or maybe the brand of resistors you use has a different hue and your eyes are not used to the shades of the bands on the resistors I use. You shouldn’t rely entirely on the colour bands as I’ve seen huge colour variation even on the same batch from the same brand.

yazid says: May 23, 2010. 7:59 PM
great instructable. thanks, i love it. but i have a question, can i use this to expose photo emulsion silkscreen, because i see some of them using black light tubes. will LEDs work? thanks in advance.
djhamer (author) in reply to yazidMay 30, 2010. 7:41 AM
 In theory it should work I've thought about this but I haven't tried it and I don't have any of that silk screen emulsion. I might check it out sometime. You'd need to look for the emulsions activating frequency and compare it with the LED's band (or peek frequency).
conoral11 says: May 13, 2010. 3:48 PM
I found it difficult making these dog legged bends. I simply placed the resistor through the holes as usual, Soldered them in then bent the reamaining leg back and forth.

As the metal tired out it snapped flush with the top side of the veroboard. Hope that helps anyone.
djhamer (author) in reply to conoral11May 30, 2010. 7:34 AM
 Great tip. You do have to be careful with the legs of some components, they can de delicate. 
Heartman says: Jan 21, 2010. 5:31 AM
Hi,

I made one simple face in 2007,
Link (French Forum) : http://soj.mesdiscussions.net/soj/Electronique/Montage/projet-insoleuse-digital-sujet_5067_1.htm



With schema and explanations, with a Pic Timer (2 versions are presented).

I'm working one another version double face,
with 28 000mcd UV LED 8mm 140° angle.
I guess 10 LEDs per face will be right.

My best regards,
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djhamer (author) in reply to HeartmanMay 30, 2010. 7:33 AM
 Nice one, I like it. I'm hoping to get my timer finished soon. I'll keep you posted.
Billdo22 says: May 9, 2010. 12:00 AM
if you connected it in a certain way couldnt you power it with AC?
djhamer (author) in reply to Billdo22May 30, 2010. 7:29 AM
 Not Really. Mains voltage can vary by 20-30 volts under normal conditions with no surges or spikes. This would mean the difference between them not lighting up and bursting in to flames, if you had a load of them in series. The way I am driving them is the cheapest and simplest way. There are may other ways that are more energy efficient but as efficiency increases so dose the cost and complexity.
jtrowbridge says: Dec 29, 2009. 4:52 PM
How did you find the optimal distance for exposure between the PCB being exposed and the LED boards?
djhamer (author) in reply to jtrowbridgeJan 4, 2010. 6:58 AM
See my comment from the Jun 4, 2009.
farrelan says: Dec 18, 2009. 8:24 AM
Very hard to read your measurements. You have a better pic that you can send me??
djhamer (author) in reply to farrelanDec 18, 2009. 9:20 AM
Hi, I found this problem when I first started using Instructables. If you look at the top left hand corner of any image there's a small box with an 'i' in it. If you click on this box you get a page with options to download a higher resolution of the image. Also if you look at step 1 of my instructables there's a zip file containing vector files of the drawings. Its all in common formats so you won't need any additional software to read and print these files.
farrelan in reply to djhamerDec 21, 2009. 7:47 AM
Thanks alot. Learn something everyday
Skyriam says: Dec 7, 2009. 1:02 AM
Stupid question: How do you make pcb's out of uv light? Do you need a special copper clad that has a photoresist material? 
djhamer (author) in reply to SkyriamDec 13, 2009. 4:52 AM
Short answer, both. You can buy aerosol cans of UV photoresist ( I get mine here: uk.farnell.com/electrolube/prp200/photo-resist/dp/130552 ).
You can also buy pre-sensitised copper clad boards but that's a more expensive solution. I am working on some more instructables that will answer all you questions, however life keeps getting in the way and I can't seem to get the next part of this one ( which will be a timer for the UV exposure box itself) finished. But keep checking back, I will get it done sometime soon.
Skyriam in reply to djhamerDec 13, 2009. 1:58 PM
Thanks for the reply, looking forward to the timer! Keep up the great work. 
elinventor21 says: Dec 9, 2009. 5:16 PM
hello guys there seems to be a problem but i cant seem to download the pdf for ofline viewing it says that its corrupt or something any tips?
djhamer (author) in reply to elinventor21Dec 13, 2009. 4:35 AM
Hi, I checked the link and it seams fine. Can you download pdfs from other places? May be its a plug-in or firewall problem. Try downloading it from an other computer.
stevecooley says: Sep 17, 2009. 9:55 AM
GM2009 says: Aug 28, 2009. 11:41 AM
-Disadvantage of this design compared to clasic UV tube is size of the board. But if you are not making any larger boards, this is good. And size can be increased, but cost to. -I am not sure but glass from old scanner or copy machine should not be blocking UV light? There is on instructable with an old scanner and UV bulbs. Only thing with a scanner is that there is probably not enough distance between glas and top of bulbs.
Joachim Bates says: Jul 12, 2009. 9:43 AM
I am still a beginner but I have done some research on PCB's. I really like this Instructable and I think I am going to use it Joachim
dlpublic says: Jun 3, 2009. 2:14 AM
What is the distance between your LED lenses and the exposue plane?
Does the glass defract the UV light at all?

Calcs (d = 0.25" / tan 10 deg) show this need only be about 1.42" (36mm) but yours seems to be more.
djhamer (author) in reply to dlpublicJun 4, 2009. 1:15 PM
Hi, the distance between the top of the LED and the exposure plane is 65mm (2.36”) I did some calculations ages ago but in the end I made one of the panels and then rigged up some tests. One of which I filled a large flat thin plastic container with a couple of millimetres of Fluorescein. I then put on some laser goggles to protect my eyes powered up the panel and then adjusted the height till I got a nice even spread of fluorescents. I also did an exposure test with some UV photo resist. The results of the exposure test were great, I got really good definition. Unfortunately I didn’t take any Photo’s and what I was attempting was a little ambitious and it all went horribly wrong at the etching stage (more on that later). At the moment I’m working on a timer for the UV LED Exposure box (as promised) which will be made using the box itself. I’ll let you know as soon as I upload part two of this instructable.
wupme says: Apr 19, 2009. 5:55 PM
There is one disadvantage when using UV LEDs. There are no UV-C LEDs, wich would be great for disinfection of a fishtankfilter system.... Wich is what i'm planning to build myself, commercial ones are just too expensive considering that it is a tube with an UV-C Lightsource... But this is not about disinfection so LEDs all the way :) Seriously who doesn't love LEDs en EL ? At least here on instructables ;o)
djhamer (author) in reply to wupmeApr 20, 2009. 3:47 AM
Cool idea. I was thinking of something similar for sterilizing water for milk formula.
For UV-C you’re looking for under 280nm (really high frequency). Check out these LEDs they go up into the UV-C range, there really expensive though.
http://shop.spectrecology.com/category.sc?categoryId=10
wupme in reply to djhamerApr 20, 2009. 7:23 AM
Thats the first time i see an LED in the UV-C range, last time i checked, every supplier told me it was impossible. But they are really expensive, seriously too expensive for the use i intend....
djhamer (author) in reply to wupmeApr 20, 2009. 12:19 PM
I know, crazy prices. I think these are aimed at scientific applications. LED technology is developing at an unbelievable pace at the moment. Every month I have a bit of a research blitz. Prices are also always coming down. I’ll keep my eyes open and if I see any thing viable I’ll let you know. I’m confident that at some point there will be cost effective UV-C LEDs. Germicidal light is seriously useful and the LED manufactures probably are aware of that.
omnibot in reply to djhamerApr 20, 2009. 11:54 PM
Cool. I've thought of using a single LED in the drinkingnozzle of a waterbottle for on-the-fly disinfection. This might do it.
djhamer (author) in reply to omnibotApr 24, 2009. 2:24 AM
Nice idea. Wupme makes a good point about needing UV-C for bug killing. I'm going to look in to reasonably priced UV-C LEDs soon. There must be some somewhere.
omnibot in reply to djhamerApr 25, 2009. 1:48 PM
Agreed.
xerxesx20 says: May 1, 2009. 11:32 AM
Jesus, you could get a tan off that thing, -- I am joking by the way. (That's UV-B isn't it?) Excellent instructable, clear images and the schematics are always helpful, thanks for "shedding light" on a subject I knew little about. I just thought i'd say thanks for this "illuminating" (sorry -- i'm a punaholic) instructable. I think it should mention somewhere that some glass will block (or attempt to) certain type(s) of ultraviolet radiation, thus reducing (or stopping) the conveyance of UV rad. That being said I seriously doubt that people will use semi-silvered one way UV stop. Or expensive double glazed Pilkington K pinched from their house!
akinich says: Apr 27, 2009. 5:57 AM
hey nice instructable can this be used to kill micro organisms in water?
djhamer (author) in reply to akinichApr 28, 2009. 11:30 AM
Hi, It might kill some micro organisms, I don’t know to be honest. You really need UV-C for that sort of thing and these LEDs are UV-A. Have a look at some of the other comments on this matter.
sensoryhouse says: Apr 19, 2009. 5:40 PM
You have my vote!
sensoryhouse in reply to sensoryhouseApr 23, 2009. 9:31 PM
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnndd done.
djhamer (author) in reply to sensoryhouseApr 24, 2009. 2:25 AM
Cheers, much appreciated.
Inuyasha10121 says: Apr 23, 2009. 11:59 AM
Hey, great build. I was just getting ready to buy the supplies for this build, gonna get the LED's off ebay, I had a question though. My auction comes with resistors that say they will work with a 12V car battery, would they work with this design? Also, if it doesn't work, what wattage resistors should I get?
djhamer (author) in reply to Inuyasha10121Apr 23, 2009. 4:16 PM
Unfortunately the resistors that come with packs of LEDs will not work with this design. This is because they are intended to be used with just one LED in series across 12 Volts. They are usually around 350 Ohms so they will drop about 8.6 Volts. Therefore they will dissipate 210mW each making the total power loss through just the resistors 35.28 Watts if you were to put 1 resistor with all 136 LEDs. To save power I have put the LEDs in 2 x 28 series groups of 3 with one 75 Ohm resistor. In this configuration the voltage drop across each resistor is about 1.8 Volts making the total power loss from all the resistors only (1.8V x .025A x 28 x 2) 2.52 Watts ( a big difference huh). I recommend getting 75 Ohm, 0.6 Watt resistors as they are fairly standard these days, although 1/4 Watt ones would be fine. Good luck with you build, and post some photos.
UltraMagnus says: Apr 20, 2009. 10:06 AM
just an observation, but if they are UV LEDS, how come you can see the light they emit?
djhamer (author) in reply to UltraMagnusApr 20, 2009. 11:58 AM
All light sources will emit light in a band of frequencies. As a general rule the tighter the band (and the higher the frequency) the more expensive the device. The LEDs I have used have a peek wavelength of 395nm. This is comfortably in the 350nm ~ 400nm range required for the photo resist to react. I have already tested this and I was very pleased with the results. I was able to get a good exposure within 2 minutes. The reason you can see coloured light being emitted form the LEDs in my photos is two fold, firstly the band of light my LEDs are emitting reaches into the visible spectrum, the second is the sensor in a digital camera will react to light outside the visible spectrum and what its chips make of it (especially high intensity’s of light outside the visible spectrum) very much depends on the engineering of the cameras electronics and optics. If your thinking about black lights (used in night clubs etc.) they have a filter that blocks out most of the visible light the tube is generating and letting through the UV. This is purely to enhance the black light effect.
Cartermarquis says: Apr 18, 2009. 7:10 PM
Just curious, I have a prof who says that glass blocks UV rays (thats why you don't get a suntan inside). Do you have any thoughts on that?
djhamer (author) in reply to CartermarquisApr 19, 2009. 10:41 AM
A good observation but I did consider this during the research for this project. Initially I thought I would need to use some UV transmitting crystal glass since LEDs aren’t as powerful as UV tubes so I would need to optimise every aspect of the design to improve the viability. I found a product, called Vycor 7913, which is used on high quality sun beds. However crystal class is quite a bit more expensive than platen glass and Vycor even more so and it is not readily available (your local glazier is highly unlikely to stock it). I wanted to keep the costs down, I tried acrylic but that did seam to absorb quite a lot of the UV light. Fortunately after experimenting with various glass I found thin (just under 2mm thick) picture frame glass was ideal and had hardly any absorption of the UV. I used Fluorescein to perform these tests. Fluorescein will glow green/yellow under UV light. All transparent materials will absorb some UV and transmit some, it’s just a question of how much, and how much you’re prepared to compromise. Happily all things considered this UV exposure box provides plenty of the light frequency we are looking for. Make sure you use ordinary platen glass (i.e. not coated with anything) as a lot of glasses for windows have additives or coatings for UV protection.
wupme in reply to djhamerApr 19, 2009. 5:59 PM
I think acrylic glass would be bad, and not only because it absorbs UV light. Or at least i have bad expierence with a fair amount of uv light and acrylic glass. The acrylic glass somehow gets "destroyed" over time and starts to form cracks for no reason at all. Well.. it could also be that the acrylic glass i used just sucked ;-)
djhamer (author) in reply to wupmeApr 20, 2009. 3:44 AM
You’re right acrylic is adversely affected by UV and will crack. Plexiglas is acrylic treated with a UV blocking/reflecting coating, obviously no good for this application. But even just plain acrylic will block a lot of UV.
NeilyPeely says: Apr 20, 2009. 2:51 AM
Very interesting idea. Great work!
fowlea03 says: Apr 20, 2009. 2:39 AM
Fab...you definatly have my vote ;0)
hemmikarl says: Apr 18, 2009. 8:21 PM
I think this is one project worth building nice instructable
lemonie says: Apr 18, 2009. 3:35 PM
Oooh, that does look nice - can you put a price on it? L
djhamer (author) in reply to lemonieApr 18, 2009. 4:02 PM
Hi Difficult to give an exact price, I salvaged so many of the parts. The critical Parts would have to be the LEDs Boards and PSU which shouldn't come to any more than £30 ($45)
lemonie in reply to djhamerApr 18, 2009. 4:37 PM
Not that expensive then, and it's a great build. L
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