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Use a Vacuum cleaner to build your own Skateboard

Use a Vacuum cleaner to build your own Skateboard
This Instructable is a step by step description of the process of building a skateboard deck, which includes: making a bending mold, building a bag press, and squishing /cutting plywood into the shape of a skateboard. These instructions are for a specific board but are intended to be easily modified to make any type of skate board, long board, or bent plywood project for that matter.

Motivation
Being a skateboarder and a constructive individual I always fantasized about making my own custom designed and constructed skateboard, made to fit me and if I wanted to I could easily make multiples. Now I can, and you can too, just follow these steps:

I suggest reading all of the instructions before starting the project!
 
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Step 1Materials

Materials
Scrap cardboard
Pencil
1 4x8 foot sheet 3 /4inch Spruce plywood
2 5x5 foot sheets of maple veneer
Hand-held Jig saw
1 liter of wood glue
8 12inch wood clamps
Wood rasp
Sand paper
Masking tape
20 gauge thick vinyl sheet (or water bed bladder)
Contact cement
Duct tape
2 part 5 minute epoxy
Vacuum cleaner with hose attachment
3 / 4inch plastic conduit pipe
Dowel that fits in conduit pipe
Plastic Mesh from dishwashing scrubber (the one that looks like a mesh donut)
Rubber mallet
Skateboard trucks, wheels, and nuts and bolts
Grip tape
Paint


Optional (but helpful)
Hand-held belt sander
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Jan 4, 2009. 11:09 AMgarethfarfan says:
I don't get it. Is there not some type of valve that maintains the vacuum?
Jul 15, 2009. 12:23 PMtdayt says:
I have the same question. I don't know if he leaves the vacuum on for the whole time or if he has some type of seal for the valve. I wonder if you could just turn off the vacuum and quickly cover the valve with duct tape before it refills with air. Hmmmm.
Jul 3, 2010. 4:35 PMlerickson says:
I was wondering the same thing how did your guys turn out?
Apr 11, 2012. 3:06 PM___ says:
He prob just leaves the vacuum on the entire time
Apr 18, 2010. 4:16 PMiTinkers says:
This kind of mould can be made from foam as well. The process is much simpler and the mould much lighter.
You just use the pink insulation foam and a hot wire cutter.  If you don't have a hot wire cutter knives, and saws, will do.  The foam is strong enough to resist compression once in the bag
Apr 18, 2010. 7:49 PMoakspoor says:
construction foam would collapse against the wood as the vacuum pulled out the foam's gas
Apr 18, 2010. 11:22 PMiTinkers says:
Pics for proof :)
I can't find the pics of it in the vacuum bag, but I found the compression ones.  It's the same kind of mould but you only need one half for the bag.

not all these pics are from the same deck press. I just picked ones that showed it best :)

The pic of the mould is after it was used.  As you can see it shows some signs of pressure but it maintained its shape. It was used again a number of times.

The second pic is the wood in the press.  This shows you another way to press a deck using threaded rod as a pressure source.  It's a little more cumbersome and more work than a bag.

The last pic is the board that was pressed from that mould.
Apr 6, 2011. 6:13 PMgruffy says:
Hey iTinkers, sorry to revive this year-old thread, but you seem like you have some experience in this field. I'm curious about the permanency of the foam you used in your mold, because if I wind up making a mold that I like I'll want it to be able to produce many a deck. How long did your foam mold last?

I'm also curious about the differences between vacuum bagging and bolt pressing. Does one have an advantage over the other when using foam? (foam fatigue due to vacuuming is my concern)

Finally, is it a good idea to use the foam in the same way that gregy (the author of the instructable) used plywood? I want to create a decent looking concave and it seems like the method used in this instructable might be better than the method you used in that respect.
Apr 7, 2011. 1:03 PMiTinkers says:
The mold in the pic was used to press a couple of decks before being discarded. There was no real wear on the foam it was just a switch to the vacuum bag to make life easier.

The vacum bag is a much better system than the threaded rod. It cuts your time down considerably, is easier for one man to use alone, you only need half the mold, and you get more even pressure. The foam is dense enough that it resists compression quite well. You do see some wear, and it gets worse with time, but it work very well.

As to the durability of the foam....it depends. It depends on the type of deck you wanna build. Most of the boards my buddy makes are drop down decks, like the one in the pic. The drop down creates a bit of a weak spot in the mold. Mainly because you need to use some clamps around that area even when u are using the bag. It just helps you get cleaner, sharper bends. Unfortunately it causes some extra stress and compression on the foam.

I'd say you can average about 3-5 decks per mold before it deforms too much.
Now if you were building flat decks with just some concave...you could probably get a few more presses. It all depends on what you want out of the deck.
The beauty of it is that the foam is pretty cheap so it's not a huge burden to remake a mold after a few presses. It doesn't take long to do so either.

You could use foam in the same way as he used the plywood but you wouldn't gain much for the amount of extra effort. The only reason I would think you'd wanna do that is if you had some thin, but real dense, foam and wanted to use it. Otherwise it is simpler to just lay the foam flat and cut the contour out of one piece. If you need more height glue two together. I doubt you'll put more that 2-4 inches of curve in it. If you put too much concave in the board it becomes a big trough and a little uncomfortable to stand on. If you put too much arch in it then you'll mess up your wheel base.

The plywood method makes a more durable mold but it is more labor intensive and not very adjustable. The foam is cheap, easy to work with, and you can make adjustments and corrections on it (sometimes).
Apr 18, 2011. 6:17 PMgruffy says:
You may be thinking that your in-depth response was a waste by now. This is not the case: I just popped my board out of my FOAM press and cut it out. I'm going to stain it and post pictures.

For now though, I just want to thank you for helping me out.
Apr 24, 2011. 10:16 PMiTinkers says:
Awesome! Can't wait to see what you made.
Apr 26, 2011. 6:43 PMgruffy says:
ahh it's not letting me post the images for some reason!
Apr 18, 2010. 11:10 PMiTinkers says:
A good friend of mine has been pressing long boards using this method for a while now.  All the moulds he ever used were made of insulation foam.

The stuff you need for it is the rigid panel insulation.  it's about 2 inches thick and comes in various sizes. It works beautifully.

Also used it to make a positive and negative for a mould that used threaded rod to provide compression.  Worked beautifully like that too.

The good thing is that its 2 inches thick so it works for mostly any curve you'd want on a board.  It works for a nice 2 inch drop in long boards as well.  And if you need more height you just glue 2 panels together to boost you up to 4 inches.

It is a much faster and easier method than cutting this many layers of wood and sanding them to the shape.

Jun 29, 2007. 8:32 AMbryceronie says:
This is absolutely amazing! I love your work and how you put this together!! It would have felt awesome to ride it after, I usually go through 2 boards a month so I would be a little mad to break it , but it would be cheaper !
Dec 9, 2007. 4:54 PMphilreeper13 says:
how do you go through two board a month. r u stupid or just dont know how to skate.
Mar 3, 2011. 9:08 AMlovemachinesix says:
LOL, seriously kid, the better you get the more you thrash your boards. A board a week is pretty average- thats a good week mind you, back weeks and big tricks kill boards. Maybe you should push yourself a bit more if you skate.
Oct 18, 2008. 4:08 PMSpencerr says:
Pro skaters go through boards in just a week. You probably didnt know this, but Unfortunately when a Skateboard gets used alot, it becomes weaker, and gets scratched up too the point where its not safe. Boards crack man, your just not skating hard enough
Apr 18, 2010. 10:18 AMarticice says:
Actually, it depends much on how dry the board is. Dry boards crack immediately; new and "wet" boards live longer (until they get dry or you smack them real hard).
When buying a board turn it upside down, take by the tail(nose) and hit against the ground; if you feel it's vibration - then it's "wet". If it just flaps - it's dry and will break fast. In theory, this ability to vibrate saves the board when it hits the ground (ask your physics teacher why ;) ).
I bet the skate shop dudes push boards that have been lying around for some time (and got dry) to n00bz (because they don't skate hard enough anyway) or to just random unlucky or dumb-looking ppl.
Aug 13, 2009. 3:41 PMStarshipMcGee says:
Pro skaters also don't have to buy there own decks..... Man, use the deck until it cracks then buy a new one, a little bit of scratches wont hurt.. dont wast your money. Great instructable buy the way. I didnt think that a household vacuum could bend 7 layers of veneer.
Dec 9, 2007. 5:24 PMbryceronie says:
lol skating sets, handrails, trust me they do break , not often but pro decks break and if I made them and took the time, I try to keep the pop
Nov 11, 2008. 11:32 AMpdub77 says:
my buddy weighed about 170 pounds when we skated back in the day. landing slightly off your trucks down a staircase can snap a board like it's nothing. i've seen him snap more than one board in a week.
Mar 16, 2010. 2:19 PMIdrisB says:
 I know exactly what your friend feels like. I'm bout 170, and its expensive as hell to buy new decks.
Apr 18, 2010. 7:56 AM--scare-- says:
lol try this:

railing out of the skateshop stairs with the new board, and landing on the nose...

70$ wasted in 5 seconds... it's really sad... but the dude in the skateshop saw the whole thing and sponsored us the next week... less sad!! yay!
Oct 16, 2008. 10:19 PMIkilledEMOcity says:
would it be possible to use an old board as a mold? I have an almost board that I don't use so would i just but the veiner on top of that?? Please get back to me!!
Nov 20, 2008. 5:58 PMpower says:
board too weak. requires a mold
Jan 3, 2009. 1:34 PMtieguy says:
professionals use foam, which is considerably weaker than plywood.
Dec 4, 2010. 9:25 PMbigjeff5 says:
High density foam resists compression very well, but does not resist cutting well, which is why they use it.  Being a dense foam, the air cannot be sucked out with pressures even remotely close to that of a household vacuum cleaner.

Using a skateboard as the mold is a bad idea because it will flex when compressed, especially under the heavy compression of the vacuum, so any board you make using a skateboard as the mold is going to be warped.

To see what I mean about flimsy substances that can resist compression, find some packing cardboard used in shipping large objects - it has a honeycomb structure that resists compression extremely well.  You can walk on it without damaging it, yet it is light and flimsy enough to be torn in half by hand.  That stuff is made of paper, and not very much of it.
Apr 18, 2010. 10:30 AMarticice says:
I don't get why you use a vacuum bag, but not the good old "2-piece mold and a couple of big screws" press?
Can a home vacuum cleaner really create enough pressure?
Dec 4, 2010. 1:10 AMpaperclip32 says:
I prefer the "Drive a car over the mould" method myself.
Nov 10, 2010. 7:08 PMdoughnutguy1 says:
Or maybe just the mold. I'm horible with molds.
Nov 10, 2010. 7:04 PMdoughnutguy1 says:
could I buy one off you? just the deck, of course. No grip or anything. If so, how much?
Aug 17, 2010. 7:16 AMsk8er6 says:
just wondering... why do you orient your grains incorrectly? both faces should have grains running legnthwise instead of across. thats how almost every board is made, homemade or otherwise.
Jun 18, 2008. 10:59 PMfreshmanfred0000 says:
How well would it work if you replaced a few layers with carbon fiber? or is it possible to make an entire board with carbon fiber?
Jul 14, 2010. 11:40 AMkatz4ever15 says:
carbon fiber does it's job best on the bottom layer because it resists the stretch that happens in the bottom layer when the board flexes, but in a skateboard, where you do tricks in which you smash the bottom layer a lot, it's sort of a waste, imo. you could put it in to replace the layer above that and it might work well
May 22, 2009. 9:29 PMProp says:
I dont think carbon between veneer is a great idea but you can use fiberglass....and you can make the whole thing from carbon but you might need a different prosses
Apr 18, 2010. 8:16 AMjwilliamsen says:
Carbon fiber would probably *not* be an ideal material seeing as it's "strength" is in it's lack of flexibility.  You could, of course, orient the fibers so that you had flex in the desired direction, but the advantage that CF would have over fiberglass is questionable, while undoubtetdly costing a heck of a lot more.....  The process would be similar, but use different materials
Apr 18, 2010. 8:52 AMFMunkey says:
 Actually, carbon fiber is a very common material in longboards. It's expensive, but it does it's job of stiffening the board while lowering the weight. Foam core boards are also possible, though very hard to get right and are very expensive to buy,
Apr 18, 2010. 9:20 AMsnowboardchamp says:
 Carbon fiber is not too common, only in the higher end/ really expensive boards. But it has been used before with good results. People have used CF and fiberglass to replace a layer of veneer, or to make a flexy board stiffer. It is generally fiberglass that is used because it is cheaper and easier to locate/ buy.
Jul 14, 2010. 11:35 AMkatz4ever15 says:
Sector Nine makes a deck with a few strips of carbon carbon for about 100. It's not exclusive to high end expensive decks.
Jul 14, 2010. 12:54 PMProp says:
My last post I made on this is was over a year ago and I know a lot more now about deck building.... carbon stringers in a maple deck will stiffen the deck significantly... you have to use resin instead of wood glue but if you can get carbon it should be easy to get the right resin.... also you can use carbon on top and bottom just for effect if you want... Roarockit skateboard company specializes in supplying materials for making decks and in their tutorials you can find out how to use carbon in a maple deck. http://www.roarockit.com/
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