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Vegan Spinach Pie, or How To Turn Your Urine into an Ideal Hydroponic Solution for Plants!

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In the spring of 2006 I sent my urine to a floriculture lab and learned that it contained all the nutrients necessary for plant growth but not in the ideal concentrations. So I put myself on a vegan diet that would transform my urine into an ideal liquid nutrient solution for plants. I ate lots of nuts and seeds, tofu, spinach, and other leafy greens and built a mobile urine recycling system outfitted with a urinal, urine processor and sterilizer, foam bed, kitchen, and hydroponic napa cabbage garden. I urinated, grew napa cabbages hydroponically with my urine, made kimchi from the napa cabbage, and served the kimchi to the public.

Vegan Spinach Pie was one of my favorite dishes from the diet. It has lots of calcium, protein (nitrogen), magnesium, potassium, and phosphate.
 
 
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Step 1: Gather ingredients

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1 onion, medium diced
2 1/2 cloves garlic, finely minced
2 Tbs olive oil (not extra virgin)
1 1/2 lb. Spinach, chopped into 1/2" pieces (or two-16 oz. packages frozen spinach)
1/8 tsp nutmeg
1/8 tsp pepper, black or white
1 block tofu, extra extra firm
1 Tbs. vegetable stock powder
1/3 C. vegetable oil
1 Tbs. Tamari (natural soy sauce)
1 large lemon, juiced (or more, to taste)
1 tsp. salt
1/2 Tbs. soymilk powder
1/2 C. toasted walnuts and/or pumpkin seeds, chopped (optional)
20 sheets phyllo dough
olive oil cooking spray (or olive oil mister, or olive oil + a brush)

Step 2: Tools You'll Need

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Sharp Knife
Cutting Board
Measuring tools: Cup, Teaspoon, tablespoon
Food Processor
Cast Iron Skillet (at least 8" diameter), or regular skillet (not pictured here)
Spatula/Big Spoon (not pictured here)
8.5"x1" baking dish (not pictured here)
slash1922 years ago
This is serious! I knew kimchi was alive, but I think this takes it a little too far.
I like the Science Care ad...
Fascinating. Completely gross..but fascinating.
Even more interesting is that you include two packs of frozen spinach in your recipe picture.
Guessing the next recipe is a Fillo Pea Pie
What happens to fecces? =3
twighahn3 years ago
2 week old urine can be used as a bleaching agent too
Hmmm..... Interesting enough, but I dont know if Id eat something I was watering with my pee! Although, I will save this instructable for the zombie apocalypse. I will need to have food. I need an instructable on your pee recycling lab tho!
hah this reminds me of 30 rock when frank keeps his urine in mason jars. cool idea though! and i love that going vegan lets you, um, grow plants more efficiently. i hope this will get people to understand that going veg is really great for everything really.
nmitchell804 years ago
What the? Do you really have that little bladder control? Seriously, you gotta sleep right there? Otherwise quite an interesting idea though.
guardianguy4 years ago
I understand the concept and I applaud it. While it is awesome and will make a lovely conversation with the wife, a lot of time and money went into making "Pee party snacks" when water and sunlight work pretty well. I'm not downgrading the topic at all and love the research but this is just too funny. I won't be personally changing my diet to make my urine suitable for "Waterworld (the movie)" plants. I do like the idea of tilapia and plants together and would like to do that soon myself. Good luck to all and thanks for making me smile.
chuckr444 years ago
Mmm. Pee pee kimchi.

It is technically known as PeePeeChi in it's nation of origin.
djsc4 years ago
I have taken my similar project as far as I can go for now:

http://cantarch.com/pages/david-collett-graduate-diploma-research.php

If anyone is thinking of doing this, or something similar, all the data is at the above link you might find it useful.
halberdear4 years ago
wait a second, what the hell?
ensoarts4 years ago
This reminds me of aquaponics. Where you grow tilapia fish they eat algae then You use their waste to fertilize plants.  Very interesting art project to show how a fairly simple closed system can create food in a very small footprint.  Next step add effective micro-organisms (or EM) and bokashi to a composting toilet and close the waste loop!.  Well Done!  I'd love to see an instructable with more detail on the construction of the filtration system.
deeren4 years ago
Lot easier to make spinach quesadilla. Google it
RobFS14 years ago
Though it is disturbing, it is interesting at the same time.
Pee is an animal by-product. How can anything that touches it be vegan?
Friend: Bloody vegans! You'll eat anything so long as its made of -poo-*
Me: -Poo-* isn't vegan.

*may have been censored for site rules.
If its given willingly surely its perfectly vegan. Also, if food has to be completely untouched by animal "product," -snicker- I can't think of any vegan food on the planet.
which reminds me of one of my ponders... humans really are fantastic compost machines...
Excretia has to be permissable in a vegan diet, because even earthworm castings are excretia. Even soil bacteria excrete, so there is no way you can compost anything, and no way you can use fertile soil to grow anything, without excrement being in the loop somewhere. I admit I wouldn't want to be unknowingly served kimchee made from cabbage fed exclusively on one person's urine.
generator4 years ago
 i finally got around to baking the spinach fillo pie - 

i omitted the tofu (didnt have any, im vegan but not a big fan of tofu)
also didnt have vegetable stock or soymilk powder. so i didnt use a food processor, instead of those ingredients i sauteed a small cans worth of mushrooms after the onions, and dumped a 1/2 can of leftover peas after the spinach. i used raw pumpkin seeds instead of toasted.

it turned out great! thanks for the delicious base recipe!
osibisa4 years ago
 hmm. just noticed the little cabbages. I can't imagine they are happy growing indoors in what looks like a hospital room. Now I really do want to know what the brix % was / is on them...not that that's the whole story...

This will sound bizarre I'm sure, but this experiment and the way it is being carried out makes me think the author must have been bonded to machines at birth. (maybe born premature) That's the only way I can make sense of such a curiously dehumanized environment for producing something that reasonably, seems aimed at wholeness.

in terms of the kimchee part, there's a lot missing in this instructable.

and I'm wondering about your veg. boullion powder. and your oil. (and the frozen spinach) Maybe some hidden msg in there, and so on... not so great for the urine, et al. But if you are aiming at creating an audience for the follow -up, ( and a buzz around the title) it's really good work. * * * * *


osibisa4 years ago
do you not oil every shet of phyllo on the bottom? It seems as if you just put them in dry...
osibisa4 years ago
totally bizarre.

but like the dentist in Little Shop of Horrors, it has a certain level of humour.

you're kidding about the bed-setup though, right?


"and served the kimchi to the public. " lol


on a more serious note--what about non-protien nitrogen? aka "funny protein"?

Most (fruit and veg) produce these days has too much of that, even the organic. It's a complex subject but goes to the very heart of the sense of (urine containing) the ideal nutrients to grow plants but not in the right concentrations.
You sound like you'd be interested in refractometers, maybe own one, to measure the brix of your cabbages, as well as your spinach, etc. etc.

funny protein is a huge piece of the pH puzzle, and the pH puzzle is a big part of the picture of health. How did "the public" like your kimchee? I like to make my own, privately.

i ate this before *throws up on perfectly good computer*
goatgirly5 years ago
I don't think i could sleep on that tiny bed with a bright light shining on me. Great idea although, it is a little extreme.
we lived in a house a few years ago, and I would go outside to pee. I always went in this one spot next to the house, and it killed the grass there. about 2 weeks after I stopped, the grass grew back twice as green and long as the other grass.
Urine contains urea. Urea can be broken down by soil bacteria into nitrogen that is usuable by plants, but it takes some time. Too much in one area at a time will burn out the grass. If you had used different spots it probably wouldn't have browned out :-)
backy5 years ago
how can i produce light by means of urine?
generator5 years ago
its true about vegan pee being different. i've been vegan for years, and my pee tests really alkaline. us vegans are made to pee on things!
Cool-fool6 years ago
How did you convert urine to hydroponic solution? It looks like it's running through some fancy equipment. Also, why does it need to be sterilized, and how did you do it?
urine is sterile
i'm wondering - dont you have to dilute urine with water for the plants first? like 1 part urine 4 parts water? that's what i've been doing.
bdkelly6 years ago
where can I get nitrobacter and nitrosomas?
djsc bdkelly6 years ago
I have found a concentrate in aquarium shops that is a combo of bacteria to make nitrites and then nitrates from the fish waste in an aquarium filter. fish waste=ammonia= pee.(approximately). The introduction of the bacterial culture is not strictly neccessary as it will form on its own over time in a well designed filter.
depayton6 years ago
You fed the kimchi to the public. Nice.
djsc6 years ago
so it look sas though to get nitrifying bacteria going, all you can do is make tank B in the diagram into a favourable environment. It is the environment, populated by bacteria, that is the biofilter. The only addition to the diagram is that I think you need some solids in that tank like gravel at the bottom which the bacteria colonise once they settle, this becomes a sort of 'seed' colony.
djsc6 years ago
hi, I've been loking up composition of ideal nutrient solutions and of urine to compare, seems the pee is way too concentrated with phosphorus and Nitrogen but not much else. I have found a site detailing the chemistry of nutrient solutions made from scratch with the constituent chemicals, I just need to overcome the urine having the wrong form of nitrogen- where can I get a biofilter like the one used here? thanks.
=spider=6 years ago
Hmmm.... maybe we should all be pissing in our gardens instead of our toilets. Let the nutrients return to the earth and let mother nature do the processing. Thank you, this instructable made me think.
Xtreme Recycling! thank you for this instructable.
leebryuk6 years ago
This table suspiciously looks like the type they use to give people a colonic. Speaking for myself, I do not prefer to urinate right next to my bed. It has to be some sort of joke. And feeding the cabbage to the public seems way off.
sires66 years ago
Water is soaked up in Water loving plants. While we lived in DC, it was told to us by our local community to not plant water loving plants in the ground in the place where we lived because of the existence of Arsenic in the soil. Urine is a by product of filtration... you are filtering bad out and disposing of as waste. It could contain such things as Arsenic, poisonous substances, etc.

I'd stick with water, Miracle Grow, epsom salts and a pH kit... Way way safer
http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/2187.html
gowithflo7 years ago
I don't know you but I think I'm in love with you. Have you seen my latest instructable? Oh well it would probably never work out since I'm not vegan. Where's the kimchi recipe?
LOL!! Kimchi? you spelled it wrong! its "gimchi"!!!! im a korean noob lol. i am half american and half korean. I could give you my moms recipe if you want it, or if i can get the recipe
juniorlee (author)  gowithflo7 years ago
nice garden! are you a permaculturist? would like to hear more about your year-long experiment in nm. and your transition to urban life. the kimchi recipe is included in one of the images in step 4.
Tinker837 years ago
this is a notedly strange way of reusing materials... hydroponics is, imo, not the most effective way to reclaim biologic materials. if reclaiming nutrients is what you desire, try using urine in an aerobic compost.
very good resources on composting can be found here, and there are more gardening projects of all kinds throughout the site.
djsc7 years ago
I'm gonna do this. Thanks for the instructable, can you tell me what supplementary nutrients are required? I grow russian comfrey, which is often turned into a liquid feed, the comfrey itself can be fertilised with 50:50 diluted urine, unlike many plants which can't deal with such a raw form of nitrogen. I wonder if the comfrey solution would be a complete nutrient solution?
AdamK7 years ago
This disgusted me at first, but hydroponics with urine might actually be a really good idea. A lot of nutrients must be sent out that way. :| Funny how you served the kimchi to the public. Did they know? xD
nedkahvo7 years ago
... reminds me of "The World's Fastest Indian" (IMDB it) and peeing on the lemon tree. I am a huge fan of spinach pie so I will try this recipe; it looks delicious.
juniorlee (author)  nedkahvo7 years ago
My urine didn't have enough calcium, magnesium or iron, so I beefed those up in my diet and added a booster nutrient solution. Couldn't eat enough spinach, etc to make the urine perfect. Diluting/adding bacteria to break down the ammonia and urea/filtering/sterilizing took care of the unwanted stuff. But the diet was completely unsustainable, lifestyle-wise. I had regular cravings for hot dogs and ice cream...
trebuchet037 years ago
This is actually rather interesting... What exactly was in the urine that made it unsuitable? I imagine that certain essential long chain proteins in meats and such were the culprits to make it unsuitable for growth in higher concentration.... Then again, the solution is dilution as my chemistry professor said :p Also, how does sustainability go? Obviously one wouldn't be able to live of this as the body consumes some of these nutrients --- at least not without supplementation (external crops or fertilization). Very interesting... And most unique title :)
If that's your own recipe, you could add it to the cooking contest