Vermiponic Garden

 by liquidhandwash
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If you read this your probably thinking WTF is a Vermiponic Garden.  Basicly  is a cross between a traditional soil garden and Hydroponics. I'm not a fan of Hydroponics as some food tastes "not right" . Buying chemical nutrient and having to disinfect the system does not appeal to me. Also some crops may not able to be grown Hydroponicly (root vegetables) 
I had a look at an Aquaponics and though I quite liked the system there where some things I didn't like about  it such as the energy consumption of the pumps and that amount of fish in a small amount of water can cause problems with all the fish dyeing.
edit  26/7/12 Just a note on growing root vegetables. A number of readers have pointed out that some people have successfully grown root crops in both a hydroponic and aquaponic systems. I have also spoken to "experts" who have told me no way, there are problems with crops going rotten.  http://www.instructables.com/id/Hydroponic-Food-Factory/step17/Hydroponic-potatoes/ give a short description on how to grow potatoes in a hydroponic system.
I'm not able to grow a traditional  garden, as  we have extremely poor soil, water restrictions, low rain fall, and extreme weather events such as week long heat waves of 45C or 113F which will kill any veggie within hours.
  I started this project about a year ago and at the time it was an experiment to try an address the above issues, I had never heard of vermiponics, and there is still not a great deal of info about it. It wasn't until a few weeks ago I found that it had a name and there are some similar systems out there. Stupidly I didn't take a lot of photos and it is now July and the middle of winter so the garden doesn't look that good at the moment. I will up date photos every month for the next year or so.
 
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Step 1: How it works

At first glance you might think its just a garden in a box, but there is a little more to it than that. The IBC containers have had the liner removed from the cage and cut in half. The bottom half is put back in and the top half is put on top but upside down. Small holes are drilled for drainage and the bottom have become water storage.
The bottom tanks are joined together with poly pipe and a solar pump, pumps water to the top storage tank. The top storage tank has a siphon inside it and that trips off around every half hour in full sun, which waters the plants. The plants are grown in soil and taste fantastic (no sad watery acid hydroponic tomatoes here)
The soil in this area is very poor and aqua-phobic ( will not absorb water) so  I use a mixture of soil, animal manure, lawn clippings, leaves, food scraps,wood ash and a box of worms to get it started. The worms have gone mad and turned the soil in to rich dark loam and the plants have thrived.
Below the soil is several layers of shade cloth to keep the soil out of the layer of gravel which is at the bottom of the top tank and to provide drainage and a home for microbes. The water then drains into the bottom tank and the process starts again.
I had a problem with mosquitoes in the bottom tanks when first set up, a couple of gold fish in each tank soon fixed that.
Another problem when first set up before the worms became established was the soils poor nutrient level as the plants were not growing very well, some organic liquid fertilizer helped in those first few months
As the worms started working the water became so full of nutrients that it became possible to grow leafy greens in a gravel bed.
Here is my first crop of lettuces grown in gravel.
leroym says: May 3, 2013. 6:22 AM
In step 9 (September) you mention the ebb and flow gravel bed that you added.
Do you have any updates about that and how that worked out for you? I'm sure your followers would like to know what kind of results you got. A comparison maybe between the 2 different systems?
Starting from scratch all over again, with all you've learned what would you do different?
Your instructable has kept me excited. I've got the 2 IBC's, 1 electric pump, 2- 12 volt pumps, Solar panel, worms etc. I still have to rework the end of the greenhouse so I can get the IBC's inside.
Thanks again,
liquidhandwash (author) in reply to leroymMay 3, 2013. 3:53 PM
The ebb and flow system works really well, although it did take a while for the bacteria in the gravel to start doing there job ,about 3 months, so I had to use a little liquid fertilizer in that time. Ive mostly grown leafy greens in the gravel and the best part is the birds don't dig the plants out, and the lettuce stay clean.
Sorry that Ive haven't updated lately I got sick at the end of the year for a couple of months so didn't really get in the garden as often as i should have.
Ive just pull out most of the plants as we are now going into winter, but the lettuce, celery, spring onions, capsicum (bell peppers) are still growing well.
leroym says: Apr 24, 2013. 4:11 AM
Harbor freight (www.harborfreight.com) in the US has a 15 watt - 12 volt solar panel with good reviews for $59.99 USD. I have never had anything to do with solar but it seems like these 2 might be made for each other? What do you think?
liquidhandwash (author) in reply to leroymApr 24, 2013. 4:56 AM
i think you could do better on the price, but it should do the job nicely
have you looked at ebay? Ive seen 20 watt panels for $30
gzechner says: Apr 19, 2013. 1:02 PM
thanks! ... but one more Question... because I think it is also an important fact...
how many liter does your pump pump per hour?
thanks in advance!
liquidhandwash (author) in reply to gzechnerApr 19, 2013. 4:09 PM
I got the pump from ebay and it says 550 l per hour, but as it is run from a solar panel it would depend on cloud cover,time of day, size of the solar panel and how high your pumping to.
at $15 you could buy several if you needed to.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5-12V-DC-Micro-Brushless-Magnetic-Pump-High-Solar-Hot-Submersible-Water-Pump-1-/320883441103?pt=AU_Decor_Furnishing&hash=item4ab624bdcf
gzechner says: Apr 18, 2013. 6:18 AM
just one question:
how thick is the hose?
liquidhandwash (author) in reply to gzechnerApr 18, 2013. 2:31 PM
the syphone hose has to be thick wall so it holds its shape, and 3/4" diameter
leroym says: Apr 13, 2013. 2:49 AM
I meant to say "battery" but in my rush to post I didn't proof read it till I had it posted. I had to leave and tried to find a way to edit it quick and could not.

In your step 9 (September) it says, " The pump runs from a solar panel and a battery,". But if I don't have to use a battery that's great and simplifies things even more.

I don't have readily available 120 volt where my greenhouse is located and that's my reason for searching for the 12 volt pump and solar panel. We generally have a lot of sunshine in this part of the state.
I'll try eBay and see what I can come up with.

I appreciate your time spent answering my questions. Thank you.
liquidhandwash (author) in reply to leroymApr 13, 2013. 5:20 AM
sorry I forgot that I played around with a battery for a while, It was only on the gravel bed anyway. i found that you dont really need a battery the plants seem to be happy with the amount of water they get during the day.
leroym says: Apr 12, 2013. 8:54 AM
I would only be able to run this for maybe 5 months out of the year in the greenhouse
without supplemental heat. Then I would have to drain the water out for the winter as it would become a solid block of ice.
Initially I was going to do the aquaponics thing indoors as I have a building with south facing windows 12 foot high.but when I seen your system for growing food in the dirt and using worms that sounded like the way to go.
I might be able to do both so I could continue to grow thru the winter.
I have ordered an Eco-Plus 396 submersible pump and it was shipped a week ago and should be delivered today. Does that sound like it would be an adequate pump for your system? Lift for this pump is just over 6 feet.
And one more question which I'm sure your other readers would like to know is what to look for in that solar unit? I have no idea from just looking at the picture.
And is a car or light truck adequate for running this system?
liquidhandwash (author) in reply to leroymApr 12, 2013. 5:05 PM
This system is part aquaponics, if you look at the gravel bed and fish, the soil and worms part just make everything a little easier, as I dont have to worry about nutrient levels, ph. levels etc. Just feed the worms food scraps and it all seems to work.
Putting it in a building sounds like a good Idea, and the water will help stabilize the temperature somewhat, as it has a lot of thermal mass.
"And is a car or light truck adequate for running this system? " do you mean battery?
I dont use any batteries the system stops at night, which seems to work just fine for around here but it would depend on the cloud cover you get in your area.
The pumps I use are 12 volt and can be connected directly to a solar panel. I looked at the pump you have and it looks like its 120 volts which is fine just put it on a timer, and plug it in.
leroym says: Apr 12, 2013. 2:54 AM
Wow, that is an excellent instructable! Sure got me to thinking.
I just got a free IBC container and got the top 9 1/2 inches cut off and all cleaned out. That was before I found your instructable. Do you think that the 9 1/2" top is deep enough for your grow bed?
I believe I can get another free IBC if you don't think this is deep enough.
I'm in Montana, USA and we can get down to 40 below zero in winter. How cold does it get where you have this set up?
I have a greenhouse, unheated 12 X 24 foot in size. It appears very similar to yours. What would happen to the worms in winter when things freeze up. Do they go dormant or die? If they die then I assume you would start over with a new batch of worms? I fished with worms for many years but never thought about what they did in
winter.
liquidhandwash (author) in reply to leroymApr 12, 2013. 4:43 AM
My gravel bed is about 14" deep and is great for growing lettuces and the like, im pretty sure it would work at 91/2" . why not grab the other IBC and have your worms in and soil in one, and gravel in the other.
As for the temperature I cant help you with that, it rarely gets below freezing here, I would think you would have to watch the ice doesn't damage your pump, or break the bottom IBC I really don't know enough about worms to help you with what would happen to them at that temperature.
Best part of this project... No crawling around on my hands and knees.
Infinnion says: Feb 11, 2013. 11:48 AM
wahaha love the opening sentence x]
Infinnion in reply to InfinnionFeb 11, 2013. 11:49 AM
Also very useful instruct able :]
liquidhandwash (author) in reply to InfinnionFeb 11, 2013. 12:27 PM
Thanks
lkurtz2 says: Sep 6, 2012. 10:42 AM
Have you been using red wiggler composting worms? (They tend to operate in top of "soil" (5 to 7") and have a high demand for waste while earthworms will dive and take nutrients deeper into soil.
liquidhandwash (author) in reply to lkurtz2Sep 6, 2012. 4:00 PM
Hi lkurtz2
I have a mixure of worms some are just earth worms, others I bought in a box, called night crawlers, there are a few different colors including red ones. I have heard of the the red worms but not seen them for sale around here.
I just added an ebb and flow gravel bed I will post the photos in the next couple of days.
liquidhandwash (author) says: Aug 19, 2012. 12:15 AM
Hi every one thanks for the feed back, Ives updated the instuctable put in an extra step (4), and a heap more photos on step 3.
FreyaFL says: Aug 16, 2012. 3:12 PM
I just spent a great deal of time reworking my plans for a vermicompost bin into a vermiponics system because of you! I love the idea of actively growing food in the composting bin rather than have it sitting in a corner or under a counter. But now I have a question about watering. How often do you run the sprinkler and how much water is put into the growbed each time? I'm going to be doing something MUCH smaller, probably along the lines of a 30ish gallon grow bed, as an experiment, with a tank that is probably the same size. (If it works nicely, I may set up two growbeds for the one tank.) This is such a new idea to me that I can see all sorts of interesting possibilities.
liquidhandwash (author) in reply to FreyaFLAug 16, 2012. 10:49 PM
Hi Freya
With the watering, the pump is always on, the more sun the more the pump works, you can regulate the amount of water on the grow beds by adjusting the bleed off back into the tank, and the amount of holes that you drill in the sprinkler tube. Ive also found as the soil quality improves, I don't get wet spots or dry spots anymore, the soil absorbs water like a sponge, and also drains very well. I haven't measured how much goes on the grow beds each time but, I would guess that the top tank is 60 liters when full, and about 40 liters would be returning to the tank, and about 20liters on the grow-beds every 20mins mid day in full sun. if cloudy or morning and afternoon it may be every hour or so.
eyeguy6 says: Jul 15, 2012. 5:44 PM
In the first paragraph, you misstated something. You can grow root veggies hydroponically. The proof is in Dr. Struan Sutherland's book Hydroponics for Everyone. One of the best books on the subject.
liquidhandwash (author) in reply to eyeguy6Jul 15, 2012. 6:07 PM
Im sorry if it is incorrect, I will have a look at the book, is it common where you are to grow things like beetroot and potatoes hydroponically? around here ive been told it cant be done.
moonchylde in reply to liquidhandwashJul 25, 2012. 12:08 PM
I haven't tried it myself, but I have heard of people successfully growing potatoes hydroponically with an ebb-and-flow system, and modified trash cans filled with expanded clay balls.

Here's one instructable I've found: http://www.instructables.com/id/Hydroponic-Food-Factory/step17/Hydroponic-potatoes/
liquidhandwash (author) in reply to moonchyldeJul 26, 2012. 1:00 AM
Thanks Moonchylde I will change the wording on instuctable as a couple of people have said that its possible.
Isaac Eglash says: Jul 25, 2012. 11:26 PM
try aquaponics its very interesting
StCanna says: Jul 25, 2012. 6:07 PM
Also another suggestion for the economical production of water/fish containers is to use ferro-cement. Many charity organizations are already engaged in the building of ferro-cement tanks in "3rd-world" countries for water storage/rain catchment. I am in the planning stages of building my own aquaponics system using ferro-cement water/fish tanks and a foam-cement, cement/perlite or some other light weight cement mixture for grow containers. FYI you can grow just about anything with a properly designed aquaponics system. The most excellent source of aquaponics info i have found is Murray Hallam (he's an Aussie). He explains how once a properly designed system is "mature" it has the range of microbial life to support many of the fruits that most believe can't be grown in an aquaponic system. Oh and i've seen him pull some enviable root vegetables out of his systems.
wisedirection says: Jul 23, 2012. 5:09 PM
Excellent work. You are very talented and I love your ideas. Keep up the great green work.
liquidhandwash (author) in reply to wisedirectionJul 23, 2012. 8:36 PM
thankyou ;-)
rloomis says: Jul 23, 2012. 7:02 PM
This question comes from a place of complete gardening ignorance, but from someone who wants to make an attempt at growing some of my food (more and more over time). I live in the state of Oregon where water is very abundant (my place also has access to a couple wells) would a set up like this not make sense for my situation? Any thoughts or opinions on what is strategy for someone in my situation (abundant water, clay like soil, mild winters). Any thoughts are appreciated. Thank you in advance.
liquidhandwash (author) in reply to rloomisJul 23, 2012. 8:34 PM
Hi rioomis,
Im sure it will work we you are, just be aware that clay soils don"t drain well, which may cause problems. So use lots of organic materiel to get those worms working, and maybe some potting mix to help with drainage. I like that its self watering, and I don't have to bend over to pull weeds, or pick veggies. If you can get the IBC containers cheaply the rest is easy
good luck with.
oscarmissy says: Jul 17, 2012. 10:12 PM
Great work - This will be good in my small garden.
Spiraling Homesteader says: Jul 15, 2012. 4:03 PM
Very interesting! I'm wondering - you said you're getting much rain - but these are under a high tunnel. Did you ahve them out in the open at any point, and if so, does the rain affect the system negatively?

Do you keep track of the volume of 'feed' to know roughly how much is required per bed?

Have you been able to estimate how much water this uses, compared to a hydro or aqua system?

Please consider submitting to Farm Show Magazine. This is something a lot of their readers would go nuts over. Very cool!
liquidhandwash (author) in reply to Spiraling HomesteaderJul 15, 2012. 8:36 PM
hi Spiraling Homesteader
i have only just put the cover on, which has holes in it so the much of the rain comes though cover into the beds.
i just keep adding organic materiel to the bed and the worm keep eating it, I put about 2-4 inches on top every month or so, and mulch around the plants when growing.
It uses more in hot weather, but I have put any extra water in for 3 or 4 months. we have had some rain though.
I will look up farm show
thanks
Spiraling Homesteader in reply to liquidhandwashJul 16, 2012. 7:18 PM
Hey!
I was doing some research for a page I maintain, and found Window Farms. I tihnk it would work incredibly well with this adaptation of hydroponics. I have NO way of trying this myself, at least for a year and maybe more, but thought you might be interested in it. Would love to hear your thoughts!
Search for Window Farm Bottle, or go to WindowFarm dot org.
liquidhandwash (author) in reply to Spiraling HomesteaderJul 17, 2012. 8:12 PM
hi Spiraling Homesteader those window farms look great, I would like to make one but, I don't have an area thats suitable. I will keep it in mind.
JohnSeever says: Jul 17, 2012. 10:24 AM
A very nice idea. On the IBC's, you can also talk to any friends who work for airlines or at airports. The deicing fluid comes in those containers and sometimes you can get them for little or nothing. You can also try flee markets as well. My wife and I got one for $40 and we have it hooked up to our gutter. Right now, we have 350 gal of water in it, from the two rains we have had in Missouri.
ro0ter says: Jul 16, 2012. 1:11 AM
Hint: to avoid having the pump choke on the gold fishes (if you don`t have a submersible pump as you say), try using a mesh at the pipe intake. This is most like the principle of all submersible/well pumps, in order to avoid gravel/rocks intake: http://www.phieg.ro/images/Sorb%20cu%20sita.jpg

regrds,
ro0ter
AmyLuthien says: Jul 15, 2012. 4:00 PM
Wish I could find them that cheap! Usually they are in the $100+ range (with a minimum order of 10 containers) :O Any suggestions where to find the free to $50 ones?
liquidhandwash (author) in reply to AmyLuthienJul 15, 2012. 8:40 PM
dairy farmers buy teat spray in IBCs they often have them lying around the farm. If you see one in your travels just knock on the door and ask, I got 3 free once by just asking.
AmyLuthien in reply to liquidhandwashJul 15, 2012. 10:41 PM
hmmm, I'll have to look up dairy farms around here. Lots of beef, no dairy that I can recall. Thanks for the tip!
pbates123 in reply to AmyLuthienJul 15, 2012. 5:55 PM
Try Craigslist, no guarantees but they do show up there from time to time...

- Phil
Judith756 says: Jul 15, 2012. 6:00 PM
Great idea and glad to see you had an over abundance of veggies. Do the goldfish require any light? It seems very dark for them in the bottom container like that. It is great to see it is pretty self sustaining. Thanks.
liquidhandwash (author) in reply to Judith756Jul 15, 2012. 8:25 PM
the fish are growing and seem happy enough, some aquaponic systems have fish in the dark and it works ok
Judith756 says: Jul 15, 2012. 6:00 PM
Great idea and glad to see you had an over abundance of veggies. Do the goldfish require any light? It seems very dark for them in the bottom container like that. It is great to see it is pretty self sustaining. Thanks.
liquidhandwash (author) says: Jul 15, 2012. 2:50 PM
I just like to thank everyone for there comments, I like to keep the Instuctable accurate, some members have mentioned you can grow root crops in a hydroponic system, if this is correct I will change the wording in step one
thanks
bigattichouse says: Jul 15, 2012. 9:25 AM
Do you ever need to feed the goldfish?
liquidhandwash (author) in reply to bigattichouseJul 15, 2012. 2:43 PM
hi bigattichouse
the gold fish seem to grow without feeding as the get lots of insects.
mganpate says: Jul 15, 2012. 9:34 AM
aswoom i would be like in india making on my flat ruff pls send the pdf on mahesh.gan.143@gmail.com
liquidhandwash (author) in reply to mganpateJul 15, 2012. 2:42 PM
sent you a pdf
enjoy!
sitearm says: Jul 15, 2012. 10:51 AM
@liquidhandwash; Hi! Cool article I've tweeted it and emailed it to my fanatic gardening father in law. Cheers! Site
liquidhandwash (author) in reply to sitearmJul 15, 2012. 2:41 PM
Thanks sitearm
thajesta says: Jul 15, 2012. 11:55 AM
This is really great stuff! I do have to say though, that aquaponics works GREAT for almost ANY vegetable, even root crops! the exceptions are fruits and vegetables that require high acid levels, (such as blueberries) We will be harvesting snow white carrots from our aquaponic system here within the next week or so, and they are looking YUMMIE! Great instructable, thanks for sharing!
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liquidhandwash (author) in reply to thajestaJul 15, 2012. 2:40 PM
Thanks thajesta
Im no expert gardener I only know what ive been told or read, that great that your growing carrots Have you grown potatoes?
tnsoftailrider says: Jul 15, 2012. 12:16 PM
Question? A 4x4x2 foot box with 2 feet of soil would weigh about 2400 lbs. What did you use to prevent the top (soil box) from falling into the water box below? Also, how do you keep foreign objects (leaves, sticks, etc) from getting into the water box?
Barry
liquidhandwash (author) in reply to tnsoftailriderJul 15, 2012. 2:34 PM
hi Orngrimm
Ive use the 2 bars that fit on the top tech screw half way down the frame and lots of tech screws around the top top the tank into the frame. stick and leaves don't seem to be a problem. I will post more photos when I make another tank.
Momghoti says: Jul 15, 2012. 7:53 AM
I really like this-it seems to be the best of both worlds, hydroponics and soil gardening. I'm looking forward to more photos! I would imagine that if you spend a bit more work on the cover and add a heater you could use it as a greenhouse and get veg year-round.
Have you had any problems with insects/diseases?
liquidhandwash (author) in reply to MomghotiJul 15, 2012. 2:25 PM
hi Momghti
We have these pumpkin beetles that are a pain they come back every year, soapy water sorts them out. no diseases
RaptorWing says: Jul 15, 2012. 2:19 PM
Great design, thorough explanation, and overall excellent instructable. Thanks for sharing your idea.
Orngrimm says: Jul 15, 2012. 1:46 PM
The golfdifishes in the bottom tanks are the UBER-idea! :)
Nice played! :)
Mersix says: Jul 15, 2012. 11:29 AM
I am totally rethinking my composting and worm bins. Thanks so much!
WoundedEgo says: Jul 15, 2012. 10:20 AM
Spot on, dood. Thanks for posting. (Ya gotta love our squirmy friends.
piks says: Jul 11, 2012. 12:49 PM
Genius idea. Have you considered the possibility of third world applications for this. With a couple of modifications, a greenhouse type cover for the top to eliminate water loss through evaporation and possibly 'food' type fish for the bottom water tank, maybe Tilapia or Vietnamese River Cobbler (a type of Catfish). I'm sure you could probably get an NGO interested in this.
liquidhandwash (author) in reply to piksJul 11, 2012. 4:10 PM
Thanks piks, I have thought about 3rd world applications, but I have no idea to get it out there. could you tell me what a NGO is . as for food type fish there is that many worms, Im sure that much of the fishes diet could be worms. I have recently put a cover over the garden, but jut noticed i haven't posted a photo.
67spyder in reply to liquidhandwashJul 16, 2012. 9:56 AM
You have already taken the first step in getting this great idea to people who can benefit from it by sharing it on this web site! Myself and the world thank you for this excellent instructable on this well thought out idea. This actually helps 2 world problems, hunger AND waste disposal.
piks in reply to liquidhandwashJul 12, 2012. 5:35 AM
Sorry, NGO stands for Non Governmental Organisation such as charities. Living in the UK, the first one that springs to mind is Oxfam, who do massive amounts of work fighting poverty and famine in the Third world.
liquidhandwash (author) in reply to piksJul 12, 2012. 4:50 PM
thanks piks I have a friend who is involved with Caritas I will see if it something that is useful to them
grafkaal says: Jul 15, 2012. 7:49 AM
Very Cool! Potatoes grow really well hydroponically!
Largrin says: Jul 15, 2012. 6:59 AM
This is excellent. A well thought out, and very intelligent design.
I have a nice garden now, on an abandoned lot, but if the property gets sold, I will need a new space. This seems to be the answer.
Thanks for the great ideas.
Xenophon says: Jul 13, 2012. 9:02 PM
Brilliant and well done!
andyk75 says: Jul 11, 2012. 6:09 AM
Thats a great idea! Especially if you have some of these boxes over and you want to use them in another way!

Thanks for sharing!
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