The Scientific method? It has its failings, how can we make it better?

 by gaiatechnician
video The Scientific method? It has its failings, how can we make it better?
 Ambjorn Naeve invented a neat solar device over 30 years ago. But the practical idea and the mathematical concept fell through the cracks in the system.
Once upon a time, well to do people did "science" privately for fun. Peer review was not  the formalized process we have now. It was people copying each others experiments and making improvements. Nowadays, we in the rich world are more well to do than ever before but it seems this form of peer review has ended. Now, it seems everybody stands back and plays it safe, watching, consulting with "searches" and copying exactly some "proven" idea and doing nothing new.
I put up this video to try to shake people out of their complacency. The "scientific method" is not working as well as it should because people are not participating enough.
Lets get it back on track.
Who decides what gets researched and what gets ignored? Let us try to ask the right questions so that we can fix the problem and make the scientific method work better. For all of us.
Brian White
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kikazz says: Oct 18, 2010. 7:15 PM
Whoa, I didnt know that there was such conversation on this site. Awsome!
nutsandbolts_64 says: Jun 5, 2010. 8:46 AM
So uh you're saying society went "copy cat" on itself? Then you're asking we need a drastic change in the way we do things around here? I don't have doubts (on what I understand), but I can't comprehend what you're saying. I can't comprehend the video due to faulty speakers. It's just i got a headache so I can't think straight. Please clarify, thanks!
gaiatechnician (author) in reply to nutsandbolts_64Jun 5, 2010. 1:43 PM
Since the video, they did research on the pump at Queens university Toronto and perhaps there is more going on in California. (Results were better than they expected) http://www.appropedia.org/Pulser_pump should have the latest info. It took over 2 decades for that to happen. Why so long? One reason is that your attitude is widely shared by others. You have bought into the idea that the system works great. Another is that there is almost no funding for appropriate tech research. Thats a political problem which you are contributing too. Political appointees decide where the money goes. Scientists are just paid rats and highly directed rats in a rat race. (No funding for appropriate tech= no scientists researching appropriate tech) Its all about the money with most people. My prime minister in Canada is currently de funding climate research because he does not like the results. (Canada, biggest country in the world, perfectly positioned for arctic research too, decommissioning weather stations!) No funds, no research, no data. (So he buys a few more years for the owners of the tar sands). Also, from my experience in science college, the great stars were the people with big memories who went on all nighters with coffee before the exams. So is an open mind as important as a big memory to become a scientist? Apparently not in the race to get to be one! And this is real important. Because, if you only have access to what you can recall, you will not be capable of digesting the pulser pump, or the dual reflector on equatorial mount concept, or solar design t-square, or clam shaped solar cookers or the mechanical mathematician. (Thats my entire contribution and probably incomprehensible to most of the big memory people). It is not rocket science but if you switch off before you even look at it, it is pretty much impossible to engage your brain. Another great problem is leaders and followers. There are so many "monkey see, monkey do" people out there who attach themselves to someone that society has decided is a LEADER. So if he says something they treat it like the word of God. I have met some of those "leader" people. Very few of them are open minded and many have bought into their personality cult and do not hear the plebes. (Research has been done on that social problem by the way. They actually (unknown to themselves) tune out what the underlings say!) It does not even reach the higher part of the brain. (I have done this myself and it is a humbling experience when you look back and you realize what you have done). I cannot remember stuff to save my life. The only time my paper was ever handed around is when I forgot that there was an exam. So I had to make the whole thing up on the spot in a 2 hour exam. Pretty hard to do. So just maybe I had a deeper understanding than the super memory people who did superbly in later careers. Also, I would urge you to read this page from appropedia http://www.appropedia.org/Category:Status They are recognizing that roadblocks exist and they are trying to remove some of them. Do not get mad at me. I was just delivering the message. The message is that there are a whole lot of unofficial road blocks that prevent scientific research. Some are in our own heads.
nutsandbolts_64 in reply to gaiatechnicianJun 5, 2010. 10:21 PM
Okay, makes sense. From my understanding, it all boils down to one common, human trait: selfishness. *eats raisin cookie*
gaiatechnician (author) in reply to nutsandbolts_64Jun 6, 2010. 1:40 AM
I do not think it is quite that simple. My x girlfriend was not religious or rich but she always contributed to the foodbank when she bought groceries. And it was quite a lot. Collectively the scientific community and their funders are doing a terrible job of contributing. It cost less than $100 to verify scientifically that the pulser pump worked but it took about 150,000 views of videos of them clearly working before anyone in that community lifted a finger. Thats outragous. And the EXCUSES that people gave for their refusal to lift a finger were so shallow too. Any of those environmentally friendly pop stars or actors could do a complete exhaustive review of the pump over a large range of conditions, film it and make 50 or 60 grand for themselves and be heroes. Like I said, it is not rocket science. Forget theory of 2 phase flow. Just test the damn thing with different heads of water, different power water speeds, and different pumping heights, etc and make the results public. Its that easy! And then I can forget the stupid pump once and for all. Hurah!
nutsandbolts_64 in reply to gaiatechnicianJun 6, 2010. 4:48 AM
lol, straight to the point if that's what you're talking about.
gaiatechnician (author) says: Apr 18, 2010. 7:41 PM
Just a note that  there is a research project about the pulser pump currently going on in Queens university Toronto.  (I found out yesterday)
They are using http://www.appropedia.org/Pulser_pump as their project page and they will post their final results on May 1st.
They have some pdf files of supporting research that may be very useful.
I think appropedia had some input into it getting started.
I also won a place in http://artandsciencefair.ca/ with the tracking solar accumulator project.  The  solar design t-square and clam shaped solar project was also accepted but an individual  can only have one project  so I chose the accumulator. (no lasers needed).
Brian
fishhead455 says: Sep 8, 2009. 7:49 AM
I shall only put in my three cents worth because a couple of my favorite people have been drawn into the discussion:( Lemony, Kiteman). Each time gaiatechnician comes up with a new idea I( tried) many times to offer easier solutions to his rube- goldberg reinventions of the wheel. He seems to prefer to stay in his own world and tries to convince others that his is the newest and best solution to a problem that has already been solved. I gave up and have, consequently, relegated him and his notions to, well, somewhere other than in the forefront in my thoughts. But we all know that he will never give up...and I wish him all the luck he deserves.
gaiatechnician (author) in reply to fishhead455Jan 19, 2010. 1:03 PM
Why did you not try to peer review what I did?  That is what science is all about.
Experiments.  You repeat my experiments,  and then say that it is stupid.
I did them and you did not.
You simply do not have the right to be offended.   Problems in the real world have multiple solutions.
And the people who need problems solved have different price points and different skills to apply to those solutions
gaiatechnician (author) in reply to fishhead455Sep 15, 2009. 8:56 AM
Remember when people invented rube goldberg spinning wheels and and weaving devices? People (like you) thrashed the new devices. Just like you. Lemony and Kiteman were drawn in because of their idealogy, you because of your friendship and your defence of old thought. This is more proof that there is more to peer review and the scientific method than meets the eye. There is a heck of a lot of inertia, isn't there? Why are people unable to say, "yes, I would like to know more about the naeve wheelbarrow". If a leading scientist or large charity organization said they were interested in the naeve wheelbarrow, would people be offering their help? This video IS proving something. How can we adjust the scientific method to allow for this human failing?
gaiatechnician (author) in reply to fishhead455Sep 8, 2009. 7:30 PM
"Rube-goldberg reinventions of the wheel" . Why thank you very much. I am doing charity research for very very very poor people. They cannot afford to buy your wheels. Eventually, (if they ever get told about them), they can make my devices. You are complicit in their poverty.
gaiatechnician (author) says: Jan 19, 2010. 12:51 PM
Following from this video, I put on a playlist which is about how science works.
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=5099F55F935FC8EB
It includes a british scientist after a funding rejection and the same scientist after a successful proposal.  Here is what I get out of the playlist.   Scientists propose research to funding committees.  The funding committees decide which research gets the money.    So it is the FUNDING COMMITTEES who have absolute power over the DIRECTION in which science moves.
No money, no research, no movement.   This is why, over 20 years later, nobody has a clue how much oxygenation a pulser pump can do, how well it would transfer to big sites, how much water it would pump under specific conditions.
It is also why nobody has tweaked naeve's curved mirrors to make a super easy to make solar cooker with a one hour unattended use time for Hati.
The funding committees have no incentive to fund stuff of use to poor people, have they?  They do whatever their political or commercial taskmasters tell them to do.
tatay66 says: Jan 19, 2010. 7:15 AM
Reading all the personal attacks for this thread makes me sick. If you dont have anything constructive to say then dont say it. Making suggestions you know are beyond someones money and education doesnt make you sound smart it makes you look like the back end of a donkey.  By the way scientists do peruse the web looking at everything and researching anything that looks like it works for other applications. Thats what makes collaboration with others so enlightening they may miss something you see. For anyone here that knows it all i pity you. As far as peer review goes it didnt help Naeve, his design is excellent and there is both video proof and documented scientific evidence. http://kmr.nada.kth.se/wiki/Main/PointFocus#Sven_Eketorp By the way thats a college and he's a PHD.
rea5245 says: Sep 7, 2009. 11:17 AM
If you want something peer reviewed, submit a paper to a scientific journal. Scientists don't spend their days perusing the web looking for tinkerers that they can do peer reviews on. If you want to be noticed for innovative things you've made, patent them and start a business selling them. Posting a video to Instructables complaining that the scientific community has not recognized your accomplishments will not accomplish much. Also, if you don't have an audio editor, try writing a script before you start recording. That will keep your narration focused.
gaiatechnician (author) in reply to rea5245Sep 7, 2009. 3:44 PM
Why do scientists not spend their days perusing the web looking for projects? And surely students do look on the web for projects? So why not direct them to stuff that has not been properly checked out? My narration does not need to be focused. If you or anybody else feels strongly on the subject, you are free to post a video response on youtube or elsewhere. If you look on the instructabes website, you may see that your statements run counter to the instructabes ideology. I am already recognized for innovation. I wish to have systematic blockades to innovation and uptake of innovation removed. First I have to prove that the blockades exist. I think I have come a long way towards that. And it seems some of those blockades are idiological. Brian
rea5245 in reply to gaiatechnicianSep 7, 2009. 5:44 PM
Scientists don't spend their days perusing the web for projects because it's such an inefficient way to find new ideas. It's far better to have people with innovative projects identify themselves through scientific magazines, engineering magazines, patent offices, and even marketing departments. "Why not direct them to stuff that has not been properly checked out"? Because there are crackpots out there with perpetual motion machines, proofs that relativity is wrong, theories that viruses are a type of subatomic particle, disproofs of evolution, evidence that the moon landing never happened, and they all say that scientists have ignored their genius and that the peer review process is broken. Scientists don't have the time to chase down everything that someone claims is worth checking out. That's why someone who has something valuable must come forward with a demonstration of its value. "My narration doesn't need be focused": you're right, it doesn't. Just because every accomplished scientist, engineer, and inventor produces focused, concise presentations of their ideas, doesn't mean you have to. "I am already recognized for innovation": In 14 comments in Instructables? I thought you wanted something a little broader.
gaiatechnician (author) in reply to rea5245Oct 31, 2009. 1:00 PM
Scientists at universitys spend most of their time on administration and teaching.  They also write "proposals" to funding committees and the funding comittees reject most of the proposals. 
And many scientists do not have ANY idea why some proposals get rejected and others accepted!   You can check Nottingham university's "test tube" http://www.test-tube.org.uk/scientists.htm It includes interviews with the scientists after winning and after losing  in that lottery.
So funding committees? does that sound like a good way of financing and directing science?   It certainly could be used to control the direction that research goes in. I am pretty sure the control is political.
Brian
gaiatechnician (author) in reply to rea5245Sep 7, 2009. 7:06 PM
Can you see your reaction? I did not produce a single perpetual motion machine, did I? So your comment about not directing them to worthwhile stuff is a bit suspect. Directing does not mean researching everything. Just the stuff that fell through the cracks. And are scientists so badly trained that they cannot tell the difference? (don't mention cold fusion) For years, until Mat in Cornwall made his pulser pump model, I was accused of a hoax. And Mat's model is not going to stop people. Ambjörn Naeve did his work from 1976 onwards. You and I do not know anything about its parameters, do we? Nor does anybody else in the wider community. And in the scientific community? Nobody has a clue! Why not? Because good or bad, nobody BOTHERED to find out. And without verification, he just gets knocked off as some crackpot with poor english from sweden. And if you bothered to check, where the focal point of a parabolic dish is, is hugely important and it is problematical for tracking. Check out scheffler solar kitchens for the reason. (if you wish) Where is your curiosity? Can you not with your scientific training tell the difference between perpetual motion and for real stuff? If you only get your science education from peer reviewed journals, you sure miss a lot because they are pretty narrowly focused. I am not saying throw out the peer review system, I am saying modify it. It SHOULD take into account the internet. And with regard to what I have done, results and demos have been posted. Just nobody has bothered check them out. Do they have merit? You tell me. And if you tell me they do not, perhaps you can give reasons? Do you see the corner you have blocked yourself into? It is absurd to think that I can match what a focused group of students could do in a couple of hours comparing 4 or 5 different new solar cooker designs. It is absurd to think that I can check out all the different parameters of a pulser pump. And it is absurd to think that if I did, anybody would believe me.
rea5245 in reply to gaiatechnicianSep 8, 2009. 9:29 AM
OK, you don't like the association with perpetual motion, creationism, etc. Fair enough. I wasn't accusing you of those things, just pointing out that someone perusing the web for new discoveries (if scientists were to do such a thing) has to wade though so much garbage that it's nearly impossible to find good stuff. It's just not a good way to discover good ideas. But I think you'll like this even less: imagine if Edison had said "twenty years ago, I suggested that someone should try putting a filament of some material in a vacuum and running electricity through it. I left pamphlets in the laundromat where I wash my clothes and the supermarket where I buy food, suggesting that a bunch of students could experiment with different materials. But in twenty years, no one has done any research. What's the matter with the scientific community, that they haven't followed up on this?" This will be my last post on the subject. You may have the last word.
gaiatechnician (author) in reply to rea5245Sep 15, 2009. 7:04 PM
Edison employed people to do his research, and invent his inventions, didn't he? Invention factories. And when I was employed in research, I had to sign a non disclosure agreement and basically sign away my rights to any thought or invention that I came up based on what I researched. What a crock. I am unencumbered by that nonsense now. But what of scientists who are in research? How many of them can speak freely? Lots of them are tied up by Edison type legalese. How do you like that? Do these types of non disclosure agreements stifle invention? Do patents stifle invention? Of course they do. That is precisely what they are designed to do.
Kiteman in reply to gaiatechnicianSep 7, 2009. 11:38 PM
So your comment about not directing them to worthwhile stuff is a bit suspect

Not really - do a search for new engineering system or new power sysytem, you get millions of hits.

How many are woowoo?
gaiatechnician (author) in reply to KitemanSep 8, 2009. 12:34 AM
It IS suspect. For starters, big pharma listens very actively to fokelore when they are hunting down new drugs. Where is the science in fokelore? They do not depend just on their own little brains for the next big thing. And I put all the details I had about the pulser pump on the web. And it was on educational cd that was sold to US schools 3 or 4 years ago. "all about pumps". And the video has been on an engineers without borders website for 2 or 3 years. That gets vetted, presumably by engineers but still amazingly, no extra figures or tests have surfaced. I give away something that I am sure will be valuable to many poor people, why exactly is kiteman attacking me? I am being attacked because nobody has verified what I have done. That does not seem fair.
Kiteman in reply to gaiatechnicianSep 8, 2009. 4:48 AM
Please, read what I wrote. I am not attacking you, I am attempting to correct your misconceptions. The internet is not peer-reviewed (else explain all the free energy, creationism, etc). Very little on the internet gets any sort of attention unless people know about it. Leaving things liying around on a website will not get you views unless you let people know it is there. Publicity.
lemonie says: Sep 7, 2009. 1:46 PM
This gist of this seems to be "why isn't anyone interested in my stuff". It's not science that isn't working it's your "marketing department". This might cost you a bit of investment, but build these things and sell them. Get a stand at a trade fair, get someone with cash to back you. If these things do actually work, you ought to be able to market them.
There are a lot of people with good ideas on the internet that are full of potential, "could be" and "probably", but haven't been developed into devices that can be bought and used.
Some suckers buy publications on "free energy" that are no use, take some tips and sell people things that are?

L
gaiatechnician (author) in reply to lemonieSep 7, 2009. 7:12 PM
Well, lemonie, people are interested in my stuff. And much of it is aimed at people that have no money. Have you ever sold anything to a poor beggar? The holy free market forgot to give the beggar any cash. But the begger still has needs. Anger and contempt comes first and perhaps then acceptance that there is a problem? Do not shoot the messenger. And stop posting links to perpetual motion scams. You are trying to label me by association and I do not like it one bit.
lemonie in reply to gaiatechnicianSep 7, 2009. 11:30 PM
You say "couple of years on the internet nothing has happened", "and same deal nothing", "same deal nothing", "same deal, nobody has done any research on it", "no one cares".
The point about the "free energy" thing is that they can generate interest in bogus free energy - it follows that you should be able to generate interest in real free energy - it's an example of attracting interest / marketing ideas. You could rebuild some more of these and post them here for a start?

L
gaiatechnician (author) in reply to lemonieSep 7, 2009. 11:59 PM
What does that have to do with peer review? Do YOU think the solar wheelbarrow concept from Ambjörn Naeve has merit? Do you think it works? It does not have to be Naeve doing the experiment. It can be anyone. It does not have to be me doing a pulser pump experiment. It can be anyone. In fact others are much better qualified to do it than me. Naeve's device has gone over 30 years and we still know nothing of its capabilities! And you are lecturing me about marketing! Thats some peer review process we have going on! How come nobody has taken it on themselves to check this device out and peer review it in that amount of time?
gaiatechnician (author) in reply to gaiatechnicianSep 15, 2009. 8:40 AM
No answer to my question, do YOU think Naeve's device has merit? Laying it all on me (as posters here do) is NOT the scientific method. and now it is the 15th of september. Sorry folks, thats evasion. Its not supposed to be about personality, it is supposed to be about rational questioning thought. What do you THINK? Do you think people should know more about Naeve's device or not?
lemonie in reply to gaiatechnicianSep 8, 2009. 11:42 AM
Have you taken it upon yourself to build Naeve's device and review it?

I'm of the opinion that complaining that other people haven't found this stuff and built it is not the best approach. Testing them yourself, producing data and making claims would give people something to review. This is usually what people do for submission to journals.

Remember SolReka? Claims are made, full instructions offered. You wouldn't have to sell anything but present your devices in a similar way and they can be reviewed more easily, rather than evaluated.

I think we've got different ideas over the meaning of "peer review", you'd actually like someone to evaluate and develop these ideas?

L
gaiatechnician (author) in reply to lemonieSep 8, 2009. 9:33 PM
I checked your link. He says one of his deep dish designs is compound parabolic for longer unattended cooking. Best of luck to him. If he is selling the things perhaps he has specifics and comparisons between deep dish compound parabolic and deep dish parabolic? and if he has them, I think they should be available to his customers as marketing before they buy. Note that I wrote out an instructable about how to design a compound parabolic template for yourself.
lemonie in reply to gaiatechnicianSep 8, 2009. 11:51 PM
Yes I saw your designs - the only point about that link is that it makes specific claims about performance and offers full instructions to build. That is something a person could pick up, build and review. As you observe, a comparison would be nice, this is the sort of thing I'm getting at,when I'm thinking about publicity for designs. L
Kiteman in reply to gaiatechnicianSep 8, 2009. 4:54 AM
Still the same misconception - the internet is not peer review.<br/><br/>Lemonie gave you an example of how <em>anything</em> can become well-known with a little appropriate marketing.<br/><br/>You want these ideas known? Don't moan about the system on a site that is not part of the system - go put the ideas <em>in</em> the system.<br/><br/>Start with <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENZZ304&q=engineering+journal&meta=lr%3D">this little lot</a>, then move on to <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENZZ304&q=solar+journal&meta=">these</a>.<br/><br/>Did you know those journals existed? Had you looked for them?<br/>
Kiteman in reply to lemonieSep 7, 2009. 2:03 PM
That looks American, but if you check the disclaimer they're in Macedonia!
gaiatechnician (author) says: Sep 11, 2009. 7:39 PM
I am a bit surprised by the outbursts. First of all, this is not about me. It is about how science gets done. Why is it all market related? Was it all market related 150 years ago? Last year, I did a couple of cheap trackers so that people in poor countries could use their own resources to make tracking solar cookers. The whole point of making them was to show that it was possible to do something with very limited resources. Rube goldberg or not they are a whole lot cheaper than any other alternative for tracking. And outside the rich world, cheap matters. And technologically simple matters too. And fair dues to the people at instructables because they gave it a prize. (I am aware that my instructables are really bad so I think I have made it a collaboration as soon as the competition was over). Now, what I take as peer review is other people trying new stuff. I am some sort of member of engineers without borders and someone up high in engineers without borders approved 2 or 3 of my videos to go on one of their appropriate tech sites. Great. BUT, I have asked the student membership if they would try out some of the devices in their colleges and universities. Because that is where the resource is and that is where testing results can be accurate and are believed by people who WILL go to underdevelloped places. But the young people have already soaked up our consumer society. It seems their main fear going to Africa is "how will I keep my laptop going?". They have scurried around looking for excuses not to even think about the ideas. No chance of any of them testing a new idea. That is really sad. Back in ireland, and probably here too, we had a young scientist competition where young people in high school often did copycat but also did original stuff. If the high schoolers could do it in their spare time, what happens when they go to university? Do kids suddenly lose their individuality? We are now so stuck into consumerism that when I told someone about the tracking idea recently, he told me it is not needed. "Electronic trackers are around a hundred bux". They have no comprehension of a place where there is no money, and no easy place to buy the stuff. So for my 30 dollar (Including the 7 liter cooking pot) solar cooker, I need a 100 dollar tracker! Can anybody see the illogic of that? And imagine someone taking solar cooking equipment to some poverty stricken part of Africa. "what you got there sunny?" "Emergency blanket $1 from the dollar store to make a solar cooker". "And whats this?", "O thats the 100 dollar tracker for it". "we lost 5 people with sunstroke when they were adjusting it manually". "And whats that?" "Money to pay the security people so the tracker will not get stolen". Anyway, I note that there is a ratings war on this video, both here and on youtube. Another sad thing to see. What is controversial about saying that science needs a better form of peer review?
Kiteman says: Sep 7, 2009. 11:51 AM
As near as I can see, that's a solution to a problem that no longer exists - parabolic dishes are mass-produced, and sit on the side of millions of homes.

Peer review does not happen on the internet. It happens through formal journals. If they did not submit a formal paper to a journal, it would not have had any review at all. One man's comment on a website is not "peer review".

Similarly, if you want an idea to be taken up by a lot of people, you do not plonk it on a website and expect the masses to come to you. You need to actively approach relevant organisations and companies.

If nobody knows an idea exists, how can they test it?

Lack of hits is not lack of interest or lack of caring, it is lack of awareness.

If you want funding to develop your ideas, why not go get it?

gaiatechnician (author) in reply to KitemanSep 8, 2009. 8:04 PM
Kiteman, why not have this little bit of the internet (insturctables) peer reviewed? Or some other bit of the internet? You are right, I could go back to Ireland, and restart the experiments on the little stream, and submit them to some obscure journal and they might publish them in a couple of years. Or they might not. People are not open to new ideas. Just look at the replies here! 10 years ago I made pulser pump demo models for 2 ecocenters that were open to the public. In each case some workers were enthuastic but the bosses refused to put the models on public view. One of my reasons for posting the Ambjörn Naeve device is that I would love to try making one but I have no time. I recently had an 18 day workweek. I am self employed, economic doom is coming and I have to do the work now while it is still there. We had a beautiful summer but I worked almost every day of it. By the end of september, my solar experimenting chances are over and I am still heavily booked.
gaiatechnician (author) in reply to KitemanSep 7, 2009. 3:32 PM
Kiteman, poor people in poor countrys cannot buy parabolic dishes so they need something cheaper to produce. In fact they will be strained to buy a few rolls of kitchen foil. When I made the pulser pump 20 years ago, I went the patenting and funding route. It is a costly joke. And an impediment to future work if a patent is granted. It might work in a utopian world where each of us is independently wealthy. In the real world it is a failure.
Kiteman in reply to gaiatechnicianSep 7, 2009. 11:40 PM
You're in Canada, right? It's over 20 years since I was in Africa, but even then there were satellite dishes on lots of buildings. As I said, if you want attention, go find it. Don't just expect busy scientists to prowl the internet looking for ideas to research, prepare a proper write-up of your ideas and submit them to a proper journal.
gaiatechnician (author) in reply to KitemanSep 8, 2009. 12:16 AM
Kiteman, are those tracking satalite dishes? Because if they are not, your example has very little merit. Now about peer review. ANYBODY can prepare a proper write up and submit it to a journal. Correct? Given that the pulser pump is in the public domain and Ambjörn Naeve's device is probably there too, how come in 50 years (combining the time that both devices have been public knowelege) so little is known of either of them? Do YOU think either device has merit? If science is working right, should it take over 50 years to get round to looking at these things? I made a lot of information about the pulser pump available and Naeve did likewise with his device. It is disengenuous in the extreme to claim that we did anything wrong. Naeve was a mathematics professor, he was IN the system and he still couldn't get acceptance! All i am saying is that the peer review process is faulty. It needs to be addressed and corrected.
Kiteman in reply to gaiatechnicianSep 8, 2009. 4:45 AM
Any satellite dish is parabolic, whether it is a major tracking dish or your Sky TV dish.

Yes, anybody can submit a paper for peer review.

So little is known because nobody knew to look for it. Don't you get it? People only find stuff they look for. If they don't know it exists, they won't look for it. You have to wave any idea in paeople's faces before they look at it.

"Available" is not the same as "known". My real name has been in the public domain for over forty years. Do you know it? No, because you have never thought to look for it.

I have not accused you of doing anything wrong, you have just misjudged the significance of the internet. There are millions of blogs out there, each with only a few dozen hits. Not because their content is poor, but because people simply do not know they exist.

Put the information into the proper domain, not just the public domain.
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