Step 8: Propeller Duplicator

If your really ambitious, you can make a propeller duplicator, which can more or less duplicate anything, but right now its duplicting a propeller, so we call it a propeller duplicator.

I might make an instructables on how we made it, but for now some pics and a video here: http://www.aerodyndesign.com/PROP_DUP/PROP_DUP.htm

<p>How do I make a 3d model? Like, so that it has the right pitch and width and whatnot </p>
I made it in my home thanks Mike.
<p>Hey man, just wanted to say... fantastic job, and I would LOVE to make <br>one for an airplane I'm going to build, not an RC one like everyone <br>thinks, but an actual plane that I myself can climb into and pilot, <br>would this propeller do the job? I noticed it was designed for an <br>air-boat and my train of thought says that if it's powerful enough to <br>push a boat with 2 people over swamp and grass, it should be able to <br>taxi and pull a plane into flight, right? Well anyway, I have scoward <br>the internet everywhere and it's surprisingly hard to find an actual <br>real propeller for a real plane that I can potentially use for said real <br> plane, and the ones I do find cost more than my car, and designing one <br>takes a s*** load of math, I'm not even going to include the fact that I <br> never actually carved anything out of wood except for sharp points on <br>thin sticks with my pocket knife, so yeah, this looks like the most noob <br> friendly propeller design, I couldn't make sense of that propeller <br>designing app, but this is obviously not stuff you can learn in 10 <br>minutes. So would just like to know if it could work as a plane <br>propeller. The plane will be a small single passenger aluminum plane linked below, it says balsa wood, but I'm gonna make it out of aluminum.</p><p><a href="http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=56227" rel="nofollow">RC Glider Plane Balsa Frame 3D CAD Model Download | 3D CAD Browser</a></p>
Cburgess,<br><br>Thanks for the questions. Also, thanks for good laugh. I would not recommend using this for a flight vehicle. It is not qualified to the correct loads, and could come apart in flight. This will be a problem if you don't have a safe place to land. I would recommend just guying one from an ultralight website. Or getting the plans for a real flight propeller at an ultralight website. Some examples:<br>They are actually pretty cheap:<br>http://www.powerfin.com/Pricing.html<br>http://www.arrowprop.com/up.htm<br>http://www.competitionaircraft.com/<br>http://www.ivoprop.com/inflightultralightmodel.htm<br><br>Best of luck,<br><br>Mike
<p>Hi </p><p>what did you use of type of glue or epoxitic thank you</p>
I'd like to make one to put a clock in it for on the wall
Very cool
<p>firstly i want to thanking you for keeping this website,</p><p>it is possible to make propeller with bamboo composite fiber material instant of wood?</p><p>yes or no</p><p>yes means why</p><p>no means why </p><p>thanking you.</p>
Maybe, bamboo is super hard. Might take forever to carve, but might be possible
<p>VERY NICE!! how about how many hours from start to finish do you think it took to make the prop?/</p>
1 day to glue wood<br>2 nights to dry<br>1 day to carve it (12 hrs)<br>Voila.
This is extremely impressive. Congratulations on completing a project like this. It's clear you're a master of your craft :)
can you lead me to any of the sites that have the propeller design tools you speak of in this article? <br> <br>Thanks. Jim Birke
Hi AeroEngineer Do know our design of the propeller are valid for a windmill, or do you have a design for a 3-blade propeller
A windmill blade should work best if done the &quot;opposite&quot; way to a driven one. This means that the tip of the blade should be parallel to the direction of the wind and the base should be at about 90 degrees to that. The curvature along the airfoil should also be reversed so that the wind hits the flatter or more concave side of the blade.
Hi everyone, I'm new here and in props building (never done one before). <br>I'd like to build that one built by AeroEngineer, but I need help. <br>Firstly, he say that printing 200% pdf can give a full scale (1:1) design: well, the pdf posted on this forum (http://www.aerodyndesign.com/PROP_10/PROP_10.pdf) it's an A4 format and if I print it, even doubled in dimensions, I obtain a scaled print also (an A4 has the longer side 11&quot; long and if doubled it reaches 22&quot;, but propeller diameter is 48&quot;!) So, how to? <br>Then another question: the propeller, even if mounted in the rear of the fan powered boat as shown, is a pulling one, ain't it? Blades profile seems to confirm this supposition. <br>Thanks in advance for the kind help you all may give to me. <br> <br>Valvolino <br> <br>
Why did you choose this particular foil, and is there a reason you chose to make it completely of wood rather than say, foam-filled laminate?
Fuddle,<br><br>Thanks for you questions. I used a NACA 4412 because it has a flat bottom, making it esier to carve. I used wood because I wanted to carve a propeller. I think wood propellers look great. I have started thinking about using foam and fiberglass, but foam does not make a very accurate tool to lay composite onto for high twist propellers, but wood does, so I want to use wood as my master for molding the fiberglass.<br><br>Mike
Superb. Thanks for the answer. <br>I agree there's definitely something about wood propellors that make them stick out. And 100% agreed- wood is an excellent base for a template. <br>PS- &quot;props&quot; *insert groan* on your drafting skills- or should I say &quot;pitch-ers&quot;. <br>Oh dear. How pun-ishing.
Congratulations, you've succeeded in giving everybody who reads this just enough knowlege to be dangerous. If you're considering building a wood propellor for ANYTHING that spins real fast, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make sure your woodworking skills are up to snuff. And use a waterproof glue such as Titebond III, resorcinol, or epoxy. Explosive delamination is a very real possibility.
What ever happened to Individual Freedom, Liberty and the responsibility that goes along with it?<br>The man gave an excellent instructable that was accessible to those without the luxury of a tertiary education.<br>Normal Wood glue is fine- see how hi-tech bi-plane fighters props were- they were used hide and hoof glue they did the job fine.<br>As long as the constructor follows the glue instructions (dry and free from grease/dust etc &amp; is clamped (expulsion of air) no probs.<br>As far as I recall, airboat props are encased in a wire cage. If it were to delaminate- the centripetal force and airfoil vortex would blow it backwards- so nothing to worry about in front.<br>How Its Made (Airplane propellors)<br>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvLra7G31cU<br><br>Stop being a girl. Something has to kill you in this life.
This is true.
If i download the pdf what percentage size should i print these out at for it to be full scale
That's an impressive piece of art!<br>You have an equally impressive spreadsheet on your personal website, though. Is it all right to contact you directly with some questions about the maths behind it?
gotta give you props on this one
Thanks :)
dose that achualy work
I wnt to your website and saw your prop duplication machine and do you think you can put an instructable for it? I want to make one.
Tim,<br><br>I didn't take enough pictures of the build so I can't really make one. But I do have some of the drawings on my website and if you know how to machine parts, you can start from there. <br><br>Sorry I couldn't be of more help.<br><br>Mike
What to do if i need 60&quot; wooden prop., can I extend values proportionally.<br>And which props have better characteristics and performances 2 or 3 blade propellers.<br>Thanks.
You can extend to 60&quot; but this propeller was designed for a low speed fan boat. So it might not be appropriate for your application. Three blades can absorb <br>MOre power.
Hi, thank you for the tutorial but I must say I seriously dont understand how you really carv the prop based on the&nbsp; profliel shapes.. <br /> <br /> you have the 10 pieces of&nbsp; the metal profiles.. and then what? how do you put them on the prop, how do you cut the prop accordingly to the profile.. I am having&nbsp; really a hard time understanding it.. <br /> <br /> thanx<br />
From what I see, you cut the metal template in half and carve out the inside shape. When you are done you should be able to slide the template over the top or bottom and were it touches is where you need to remove material. <br>Leave a reply if you have any more questions
If I understand right, using the cross section profile shown above, you stick the paper to the metal and cut out the templates, keeping the WHITE parts, not the GREY parts. <br> <br>In effect you have made &quot;outside&quot; gauges, not &quot;inside&quot; (or teardrop) gauges. <br> <br>THen simply place them onto the prop at the correct station. Remove the material where the gauge touches (or the highspots). <br> <br>Beautifully done by the way....I like it!!
You have to mark sections along the span for each template. You also have to mark the leAding and trailing edge for each template on the wood. Then place the template on wood, align the leading and trailing edge, and see where u need to remove material. Carve the material, and check the template again. Repaeat this process until the wood shape matches the template shape
Dear Sir, <br> <br>I am very happy about your knowlege, and sapoting to next generagion, <br> <br>i got this web side, 21/02/2011, I all so made propeller later i send poto <br> <br>well done, excelant. <br> <br>Thanking you, <br> <br>Ishak M.
Great project... thanks for posting... might have to make that pagojet (backback motor), after all :)
Most excellent work.<br />
<a rel="nofollow" href="http://industrialshapeandform.com/blog/blogs/index.php/2009/05/15/how-a-marine-propeller-pattern-is-made">http://industrialshapeandform.com/blog/blogs/index.php/2009/05/15/how-a-marine-propeller-pattern-is-made</a><br/><br/>this how a marine prop is made<br/>
I have a 44-inch antique wooden propeller that I would like to mount to the wall in my apartment. What is the best way to mount the propeller. I enjoy all the comments. Thank you. 54pickup
Sounds hard to make.
what is that propeller for? an airplane?
It is for an Air boat, here is a few pictures of it mounted on the air boat:<br/><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.aerodyndesign.com/FAN_BOAT/FAN_BOAT_FABRICATION.htm">http://www.aerodyndesign.com/FAN_BOAT/FAN_BOAT_FABRICATION.htm</a><br/>
Thank you really for useful practical security councils! I will try to take it for my parachute. Again thanks! Ivanlp
sweet. Your welcome!
Hi, i have a question about your cross section. How can i print out a full size copy of it? it says it should by around 48 inches in length. im thinking about printing parts of it on many sheets of paper and then gluing them onto the templates. could you tell me how to get a full size?
Well you can print it out using the tile option and then cut it out and tape it together. Or u can take it to Kinko, and they can print it on a plotter.
thanks for the procedure in making a wood propeller. its a big help for my assignment...

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