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I've added video of the clock. I will be working on carving out windows in the face of the clock. I will upload pictures and/or a video of that when I am done.



I've been into woodworking for a few years now. I love the idea of being able to make things that I can use. A few years ago I came across a clock that was made out of wood. The face, arms, frame, and gears were all wood. It really impressed me, and I kept it in mind for a future project.

I've decided to take on the wooden clock in this Instructable, and hopefully share what I have learned to help others with similar interests.

One of my goals with this was to use common tools that are more widely available to most people. I didn't use any expensive hard to find wood working machines, or costly software packages when designing this. The software used is either open source, or free, and the machines used are some of the common ones that most woodworkers would have.
 
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Step 1: What You Will Need

Here is a list of things you will need

For Designing:
OpenOffice Calc - For calculating the Gear ratios
free2Design - For designing the gears
Gimp- Modifying and editing images
Blender - For rough modeling gears to make sure there aren't any interferences between gears and axles.

*note - You probably can use Blender to do all the designing, but my Blender skills aren't up to speed. It was easier to draw them dimensionally accurate in a 2D package and import that into blender.

For Woodworking:
Scroll Saw
Drill Press
Miter Saw (Table or Band saw will also work)
Hand Saw
Clamps
Spray Adhesive (3M Super77)
nnix1 says: Jun 10, 2013. 11:10 PM
Ok why I have huge ?? For peps who post instru why not make it simple. Post the pattern and basic instructions. Something that can be ownloaded by EVERYONE and print and cut and tadaaaa..... And also I don't want to go through physics lesson. School was enuff it's real nice one but its way too complicated
blipside says: Apr 9, 2013. 1:07 PM
I just found this instructable. Thanks for sharing. I'll have to spend more time looking at this. I've always wanted to make my own clock, especially since it was something that my great grandfather did. I liked that you use open source software aslo. Thanks again for sharing.
lmvlobos says: Nov 4, 2011. 5:47 PM
rennysoncemann,
Please reread the teachings of Galileo Galilei. It's Physics 101.

Since Galileo discovered the isochronic property of the pendulum, they have been the world's most accurate timekeeping technology until the 1930s. This could NOT be so if the angle of the swing would vary the frequency.

Wider swings do NOT take longer, unless you are comparing a swing of 1 degree v. 179 degrees. Then, the variation in period or frequency is really influenced more by friction in the bearing and air friction.
Clocks, use relatively low angle pendulum swings, so these factors are kept at a minimum as there is less movement. The only reason a clock's pendulum may have a higher mass, is to take advantage of Newton's First Law of Motion to overcome as much of the friction to keep it moving as long as posible. The addition, or subtraction of mass will NOT change the frequency of the pendulum.

The period of swing of a simple gravity pendulum depends on its length, the local strength of gravity, and to a small extent on the maximum angle that the pendulum swings away from vertical, called the amplitude.

It is independent of the mass of the bob.

If the amplitude is limited to small swings, the period T of a simple pendulum, the time taken for a complete cycle, is a function of the length of the pendulum and gravity.

For small swings, the period of swing is approximately the same for different size swings: that is, the period is independent of amplitude.

This property, called isochronism, is the reason pendulums are so useful for timekeeping.
Successive swings of the pendulum, even if changing in amplitude, take the same amount of time.
Thetis in reply to lmvlobosSep 27, 2012. 8:04 AM
Um - strictly speaking, the amplitude of the arc does change the period, because a basic pendulum is not truly isochronous, only very nearly. This is basic horological theory and well known amongst horologists and is due to the differing effect of gravity on the pendulum at different points of the swing. A truly isochronous pendulum would swing not in a perfect circle, but in a slightly modified curve called a cycloid (check out "the tautochrone curve" on Wikipedia). This discrepancy was perceived as a problem in early clocks where the pendulum had to have an enormous swing to unlock the escapement. As rennysoncemann says, Huygens invented "cycloidal cheeks" to try and combat this by modifying the way the pendulum swung. The trouble was that in practice, nobody could make them work.

The advent of the anchor (recoil) escapement effectively solved the problem by massively reducing the required arc of the pendulum thereby making the discrepancy so small, it could be ignored, certainly in domestic clocks. There is still an error however, and to reduce this as much as possible the best quality clocks used by astronomers were designed to have the smallest arc of movement they could get away with. You, in your response also quote that the amplitude of the pendulum must not be large, so I'm not certain why you thought rennysonceman was incorrect?

Similarly, in theory the mass of the pendulum bob is unimportant, but in practice, it is desirable to make it as heavy as possible, but with the smallest surface area possible in order to minimise the effects of air pressure and friction. The smallest surface area would be provided by a sphere; horologists compromise and use a cylinder because it is easier to make. The disc shaped bob invariably found on domestic clocks might seem desirable to reduce air resistance but apparently confers no great advantage.

Sorry, I've drivelled on too much.
rennysoncemann in reply to lmvlobosApr 9, 2012. 10:45 PM
Sorry, but a wider swing takes longer, and it's not because of friction. Christiaan Huygens, who invented the first pendulum clock, realized this fact. His primitive escapement necessitated a very wide swing, so he added so-called "cheeks" to his pendulum suspension, to alter the path the bob takes from a circle to a "cycloid", which is the curve needed to have true isochronism. Read more here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christiaan_Huygens

For small swings, the effect is quite small and could be ignored in a weight driven clock, whose pendulum swings are reasonably constant and therefore unvarying. For spring driven clocks, where the swing gets smaller and smaller as the spring unwinds, the effect was bad enough that a fusee was added to the finest movements to keep the driving force, and therefore pendulum swing, as constant as possible. Cheaper spring driven clocks weren't very accurate anyway, and the recoil escapement used in those movements tended to drive the pendulum faster when wound tight, which partially compensated for the wider (slower) swings of the pendulum. Not that it really mattered in that era, as people set their clocks daily anyway, to a sundial or the town clock bell.....

Cheers,

Chris
jakobus9 says: Apr 29, 2012. 1:53 PM
""One of my goals with this was to use common tools that are more widely available to most people. I didn't use any expensive hard to find wood working machines, or costly software packages when designing this.""

there should be more people with this opinion here!
this is very nice! well done.
BrysonHicks says: Mar 6, 2012. 5:18 PM
Are there any cad files for this? I have access to a laser cutter at my school it uses cad. When ever I try to open any files on this instuctables it gives me .tmp files.
marvay (author) says: Dec 28, 2011. 10:51 AM
I apologize to everyone that have asked for DXF files, or another format from the free2Design program or more information about my Instructable. I have been in and out of Instructables for the past year or so, and haven't kept up with my messages.
The free2Desing program didn't have an export function. I also didn't realize it wouldn't be around for much longer after I used the program. They shortly canceled the project. The reason I used it was that I was looking for a free, easy to use program, that had certain functions that made designing the gears easy.
My main purpose of this Instructable wasn't to make something that everyone could duplicate(you could, but honestly it's an ugly design). It was to teach anyone interested in building a clock, how to figure out their own design. Yes you can buy plans, kits, and other clocks to make, but putting it together doesn't teach why you need certain ratios. It just teaches you how to assemble something.
I hope to make another clock sometime, and if I do, I will make sure it's in a program that most everyone can use.
Thanks for viewing this Instructable and all the comments.
aggrav8d says: Dec 21, 2011. 1:08 PM
Please: could you add your designs as DXF files so that everyone can open them in pretty much any program? My father and I are trying to make this clock for xmas and we can't work with E2 files. Thank you!
uthmod says: Sep 10, 2011. 9:23 PM
the link to the file is broken. It links to a .tmp file instead.

Nice instructable.
lmvlobos says: Sep 3, 2011. 7:25 PM
rennysoncemann, You are incorrect about the properties of a pendulum. The "width of arc of the pendulum swing" does not affect the period...

"The frequency of the pendulum is dependent on the length of the string or wire. The shorter the wire, the greater the frequency or how fast it goes back and forth.

The frequency is independent of the amplitude of the swing, provided the initial angle is not large. At larger angles, there is a slight change in the frequency.

Also, the frequency is independent of the mass of the bob. In other words a pendulum with a heavy bob will move at the same rate as one with a lighter weight bob. But this only makes sense, since the acceleration of gravity on a falling object is independent of the mass of the object."

See:
http://www.school-for-champions.com/science/pendulum.htm
keltnesd says: Jul 13, 2011. 10:10 AM
Really cool ratchet system for your weight axel, I may do something similar. Why do you have the second lever though? I can't seem to work out what it does.
qwerty2008 in reply to keltnesdSep 1, 2011. 1:00 PM
On the ratchet the second lever appears to be a type of spring to keep the other lever engaged into the ratchet system.
dpasqual says: Aug 25, 2011. 11:16 AM
Hello ! OK I know that I'm a newbee. And I know that I speak French and I'm not fluent in English but !!!
I just become a member. And it's very cheap but :
I cannot open any of your files.
Your ods file is not recognised by my Open Office Calc and free2design is not found by my explorer.
Then could you please say me what I'm doing wrong ?

Thank you for your quick answer.
Best to all.
tilmen says: Jun 28, 2011. 10:47 PM
nice work.I'm trying to make small gears.I think I can put some designs nto my website http://tilmen.s5.com/anasayfa.html soon.
ecameron says: Apr 1, 2011. 6:47 AM
Here's one tip on cutting gears with a scroll saw. Since clocks only run in one direction, there's no need to cut the 'back side' tooth profile. That speeds up the process.

Ed
UpgradeTech says: Feb 26, 2009. 1:16 AM
Unfortunately, the freeware version of free2design is unavailable. Are there any other substitutes?
durgledoggy in reply to UpgradeTechJan 29, 2011. 1:16 PM
Be a student and get a student licence for AutoCAD.
Or join their beta program and get their beta software.
Ed2 in reply to UpgradeTechNov 2, 2010. 3:47 AM
The best free computer drafting program out there is at www.allycad.com!
JThomasAlbert in reply to UpgradeTechMay 1, 2009. 6:53 PM
A9CAD is fairly easy to use and totally free.

http://www.a9tech.com/a9cad/

Unfortunately, it does lack certain advanced features that would make your design work a lot faster.

For example, in the case of designing these gears, it would be handy to have a "Polar Array" feature. That's where you select an object or group of objects, Pick a center point, tell the program how many duplicates you want and how many degrees you want it to cover. The program would then automatically rotate and place the objects for you. So, you could draw one tooth of the gear, tell the program how many teeth you need and where the center of the circle is and it would draw the whole gear for you.

Alas, with A9CAD, you would have to draw each tooth individually. :(

Still, it is free and it is effective. I was trained on AutoCAD at work, but couldn't afford a license for home. A9CAD is a good free substitute.
Ed2 in reply to JThomasAlbertNov 2, 2010. 3:55 AM
the free version of allycad will allow you to copy a gear tooth x number of times in a polar fashion around the center! Or if you don't mind metric and using module instead of diametric pitch then use the included tool for drawing involute gears. It's a great program, I've used it for going on 7 years now, and built over 13 clocks using it. One tip. Wood clocks need more clearance and backlash than metal. Part of the fix is to set the centers 0.04" further apart, which with involute gears will not affect their speed.
hondaman900 in reply to JThomasAlbertDec 30, 2009. 3:38 PM
Can it open the "e2" files in the instructable?
kd4uwk says: Jan 13, 2011. 2:43 PM
Thanks This was a big help

In Step 4, there is a spreadsheet with each gear,
the number of teeth, and the ratio that the gear train creates.
But for a quick reference,
here are the Gears and their teeth:
Each line represents an axle
Pinion 1 - 12 teeth Wheel 1 - 36 teeth ,
Pinion 2 - 10 teeth Wheel 2 - 40 teeth,
Pinion 3 - 8 teeth Wheel 3 - 40 teeth,
Pinion 4 - 12 teeth Wheel 4 - 40 teeth,
Pinion 5 10 teeth Wheel 5 - 36 teeth.
The escapement gear has 30 teeth and is not in the list above since it does not factor into the calculation of the gear ratios.
kd4uwk says: Jan 13, 2011. 2:40 PM
Thanks for the work here
I like this & trying to make one
wish i could open the files
or that jpg files cound be downloaded
Ed2 says: Nov 2, 2010. 5:06 AM
Go to abbeyclocks.com or maybe its abbyclock.com. It's a great page by a guy named Mark Headrick. Escapement animations will help ya alot. Plus he has a downloadable (FREE) paper on designing escapements!! It is super!!
DerrickAD in reply to Ed2Dec 17, 2010. 10:22 AM
I've tried to send you a Private Message but it doesn't seem to work. Can you send me one so i can respond?
reichert99 says: Dec 13, 2010. 3:14 PM
am I missing something. When I try to download I get a tmp file. do I need to be a pro member to download?
Ed2 says: Nov 2, 2010. 5:00 AM
Email me for a pdf I made showing a way easier method than Nick's. No offense intended to nick1
Ed2 says: Nov 2, 2010. 4:04 AM
Ya know. The hardest part I ran into 6 years back when I started designing wooden clocks was how to draw a gear tooth. I came up with a easy way to do it and also designed a spread-sheet in open-office to calculate all the necessary info to do it. After clock #2 I gave up on cycloid gears and went to involute gears. I also found that lantern pinions work far and away better than cut pinions plus are easier to make! After building 13 clocks (everytime I put one on the wall someone wanted to buy the thing) and no problems thus far I think I have most of it down pretty good. It is way too addictive!LOL
jackdi says: Sep 30, 2010. 9:18 AM
Wow!
I am extremely amazed!
I hope i would have time to try this out.

Thanks Marvay. Great work!

- Jack -
afenerty says: Sep 11, 2010. 4:30 AM
Im releasing very shortly new software which can help in things such as clocks or geared mechanisms. You can see the tutorials and such now at www.gearotic.com , its inexpensive and should aid in making all things geared much more easy to make and envision.

Thx
Art
stefke says: Jan 15, 2008. 8:53 PM
Cool! Now I know how to build someting like this
simplicity_close.jpg
Johnsons on fire in reply to stefkeJan 17, 2008. 1:22 PM
I like this one better. (Sry marvey). Can you do an instructable for it?
odisej in reply to Johnsons on fireMay 5, 2010. 12:30 PM

stefke in reply to Johnsons on fireJan 17, 2008. 3:20 PM
This clock is "Simplicity" and you can bay pans for this clock here. But I want to build my own clock and here is two more pictures of that clock.
simplicity_dark.jpgsimplicity_light.jpg
nandog in reply to stefkeApr 9, 2009. 4:40 PM
wonderfullll it would be great to have this instruct. ps: nice instruc buddy! will work it on some friends cnc
Johnsons on fire in reply to stefkeJan 17, 2008. 6:56 PM
sweet......
marvay (author) in reply to stefkeJan 17, 2008. 6:13 PM
No Problem, I've seen that clock and it is cool. I wasn't going for style on this Instructable. Those are cool, and I've seen several others that are amazing. But the instructable wouldn't be worth much if I said: Step one: Buy Plans Step two: Paste plans on wood and cut. Step Three: Assemble cut parts. I decided to go more into how and why the clock keeps time, and some background on how to design your own. I know this is no work of art, but it's a step in that direction. This is the first clock I've built and designed, and it won't be the last. Thanks for the pics, stefke, if anyone else has pictures of clocks you've built or have seen, please post them. I always like to get ideas for the next clock.
stefke in reply to marvayJan 18, 2008. 2:41 PM
You are right about that instructable will be stupid Step one: Buy Plans Step two: Paste plans on wood and cut. Step Three: Assemble cut parts. This is grate instructable I learn some rely good things about gear clocks and I am planing to build one when some day search on Google "Wooden gear clock" or something like that you will find great clocks, pictures and videos
octochan says: Apr 11, 2009. 8:52 PM
This is a really helpful and interesting instructable on how clocks work! now I merely need to figure out how to apply all this information so I can make a 13 hour clock (that runs 26 hours in a normal 24 hour period).
GreyGhost2 in reply to octochanMay 1, 2010. 5:50 PM
 Ummmmm... Why do you want a 13 hour clock?
octochan in reply to GreyGhost2May 1, 2010. 6:35 PM
Mainly because it's a neat concept. It gives you the impression that you're getting more hours in a day, even if they're shorter. Also because they had several in the Labyrinth, and I always wanted one :D
GreyGhost2 in reply to octochanMay 5, 2010. 2:39 AM
What a cool idea.  I am about to embark on my first wooden geared clock. 
gogiva says: May 2, 2010. 7:00 PM
Only one word: beautiful. I will try to make one.
scarabeetle101 says: Jan 25, 2009. 9:59 AM
I found this really good gear template generator at http://www.woodgears.ca/gear_cutting/template.html which will cut the time down loads.
antidartan in reply to scarabeetle101Apr 23, 2010. 6:33 AM
any way to make it use inches in stead of mm?
thepelton says: Feb 13, 2010. 10:23 AM
I found a website called www.woodgears.ca where you can describe a gear, and it lays it out for you.  It may have some difficulty with ones smaller than ten teeth, but it will easily make plans for 20-30 teeth.
crankygnome says: Jan 20, 2010. 4:55 PM
confusing- but great job! i just hope i will be able to figure this out
dexterac says: Nov 10, 2009. 12:32 PM
uber cool. i am making this for my love of life. This will be a birthday gift for her. awesome work!!! :) 
geppetto425 says: Jan 17, 2008. 9:12 PM
My gosh, why not just order a kit from Clockit? All this work has already been done, why reinvent the wheel (sorry for the pun). Oh, sorry. Nice work though.
red-king in reply to geppetto425Nov 8, 2009. 1:54 PM
 SOMEONE has to make what goes into the kit. why not him?
marvay (author) in reply to geppetto425Jan 18, 2008. 6:56 PM
It's about creating and designing it yourself. I don't feel I re-invented anything, but I showed how to design a clock so you can build something that is completely your own. When you were a kid and put together a model car, did you make that model? No, Testors or Ertl did. You just assembled it. But when you made your pinewood derby car, you MADE that car. You designed the body. You carved the wood. You assembled the wheels. And you raced your car. That's the difference.
crankygnome in reply to marvayJan 20, 2010. 5:03 PM
im still a kid... in wood shop... who doesnt know anything about pitch
geppetto425 in reply to marvayMay 4, 2009. 10:01 PM
I stand corrected, I bought the plans for Galileos's Bicycle, a wooden kinetic sculpture... lot's of fun making it and my wife loves it. Look it up on youtube
Re-design says: Oct 24, 2009. 8:48 AM
First rate job.  On both the project and the instructable.
its a lion says: Aug 5, 2009. 8:10 PM
Wow. I never realized how much went into clocks. Then for some reason I looked at an escapement today, and was sucked in. I have spent the last 6 or so hours reading everything that I can find about their construction. I found this after trying to get a detailed view of the gear train. This really helped me to understand it. Thanks. Nice clock.
rockyreasoner says: Jul 29, 2009. 3:49 PM
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rockyreasoner in reply to rockyreasonerJul 29, 2009. 5:42 PM
Nevermind... to download the files: - Right-click on the filename and choose "Save as" - Save the file as (i.e. "Gear_ratio.ods") INCLUDING the quotation marks
Smidge204 says: Jan 3, 2009. 10:16 AM
free2Design appears to no longer be available. Even if you can get a copy of the software, which is possible via 3rd party sites, it attempts to "validate" itself through think3's website which no longer hosts the required pages. I'm sure it's possible to bypass but what a pain, huh? I do have a question for marvay, though, which I haven't seen anyone ask yet: What kind of wood did you use? It looks like either hardwood plank or a very high grade plywood? How thick? Looks about 1/2 inch or so. I'm toying with the idea of making my own using epicyclic gearing, just to be fancy :)
runmgh in reply to Smidge204Feb 6, 2009. 11:25 AM
I've read that hardwood plywood is the best wood to use. I believe it's because it expands and contracts less. Technically any thickness would work, but I'd stick with .250". Other material options include acrylic and aluminum.
grantdevine says: Jan 10, 2009. 4:06 AM
Any chance someone could post a sketchup model of this?
foobear says: Jan 6, 2009. 2:27 PM
that is pure sweetness
runmgh says: Nov 20, 2008. 8:04 AM
I can't seem to find Free2Design anywhere. Does anyone happen to have the files as DXFs?
Benthomash says: Nov 11, 2008. 9:43 AM
Couldn't the gear behind the robot guy be used as a second hand gear?
froggyman says: Oct 4, 2008. 5:55 PM
this is a great clock if you are not very good at wood working, but if you would like plans for intermediate to advanced woodworker check out the site http://www.woodenclocks.co.uk/index.htm

all the plans on it are free and somewhat easy to follow
kolem says: Aug 18, 2008. 3:06 AM
Very nice, just one problem i got is i cant open your files it downloads the files a .tmp file
froggyman in reply to kolemOct 2, 2008. 6:53 AM
download the four progrmas metioned at the begining
froggyman says: Sep 30, 2008. 7:37 PM
what thickness wood did you use for the gears? it looks like 1/2" but im not sure, or does it not really matter...
chuckr44 says: Sep 8, 2008. 11:11 AM
Gary's Wooden Clocks is no longer a valid link.
muffin1 says: Sep 3, 2008. 2:52 PM
would a jig saw work instead of a scroll saw?
marvay (author) in reply to muffin1Sep 3, 2008. 6:48 PM
The problem I would see is holding everything steady. You would need some type of jig to hold the work piece while cutting. The small gears are too small to hold by hand. To give you an idea what it would be like, hold a Quarter in one hand. Imagine holding a jig saw in the other, and cutting teeth into the Quarter. The other thing, with a scroll saw, you can have very thin and narrow blades. This helps making very sharp corners without having to back out the blade and cut from the other side. The jig saw has thicker and wider blades, and the turning radius won't be as tight.
Chicken2209 in reply to muffin1Sep 3, 2008. 3:34 PM
if it can do the exact same thing a scroll saw can, why not
treg says: Aug 28, 2008. 7:40 AM
Do you ting it is possible to cut only one quarter of gear, then duplicate it 4 time for each gear with a small diameter copy bit on a router ?
marvay (author) in reply to tregAug 30, 2008. 9:01 AM
It might work, and is worth a try. Although my first try at cutting the gears was with a router. I was cutting the entire gear, not a quarter of it and I wasn't using a duplicator but was doing it freehand. I decided that I like my fingers too much, and they were coming awfully close to the fast spinning bit. Especially with the smaller gears. The router also didn't give me a 'clean' cut, and I found out that there was going to be a lot of finishing.
Sandisk1duo says: Jul 6, 2008. 7:08 PM
Nice Instructable! WAAYYY too complex for me to even attempt!
beewebbiz says: Jul 6, 2008. 6:50 PM
You can also use a router to cut the teeth. Jerry
floack says: May 18, 2008. 10:28 AM
Hi, I really like the clock but how do I open those .tmp files???
minimoa69 says: Apr 21, 2008. 6:27 AM
Oh yes, forgot to mention, but this is a brilliant progam for printing gears of any size, and with any number of teeth, and best of all it requires no registration! All gears are printed to you printer mm perfect, so it's fabulous for all sorts of applications. All the gears on my Orrery were layed out using this program, and it runs beautifully. Enjoy!
http://woodgears.ca/gear_cutting/template.html
minimoa69 says: Apr 21, 2008. 6:21 AM
Nice work Marvay. Just stumbled upon your creation. Never tried a clock myself - next project perhaps... Just thought that you might be interested in what I've been up to over the past 3 weeks or so. This is a link to a forum where I've been putting regular updates for an Orrery I'm building, so many gears! And all cut in the way you describe, fiddly, but really effective. Keep up the good work, and post more pictures! Let me know what you think:
http://www.brassgoggles.co.uk/bg-forum/index.php?topic=8006.msg146566#msg146566
Charles IV says: Mar 26, 2008. 9:09 AM
That is the most amazing woodworking and best Instructable I've seen in a while. Nice job 10/10
kdiddy13 says: Feb 27, 2008. 3:09 PM
Excellent overview. Nicely put together. I've been trying to get free2design to work for designing gears. Unfortunately, they require a password to register it, and since you can only obtain a password through their website (which keeps timing out on me), I can't get it to run. Has their site moved? Does anyone else have this problem?
marvay (author) in reply to kdiddy13Feb 29, 2008. 11:52 AM
I don't know if the site has moved. When I was designing this I noticed that their site was up and down, but just assumed it was a flaky server. Their parent company Think3 www.think3.com is up, but I don't see anything on it about the site being down or anything about free2design anymore. Maybe they are dropping it. Does anyone know of any decent open source or free 2d cad program? You could use blender, but I am not as familiar with it to create anything with precise measurements. It seems to me that Blender is mostly for estimating size and lengths.
kdiddy13 in reply to marvayFeb 29, 2008. 12:10 PM
I already have access to Maya, and don't have the brain bandwidth to incorporate Blender (all though I've tried). Neither are great CAD programs, but fine for the 3D aspect. The gear functionality of free2design was very intriguing.

On the upside, I did find this site for designing gears:
http://woodgears.ca/gear_cutting/template.html

You'll need to scale them as necessary because they are in an arbitrary unit, but that shouldn't be too difficult with any other cad software or even something like Illustrator if you print it to a PDF (I can't remember Illustrator's open source equivalent).
kdiddy13 in reply to kdiddy13Feb 28, 2008. 1:56 PM
Unfortunately, the software itself appears to need to connect to the website to authorize itself (I tried a madeup one out of curiosity) and it still times out on that end. Bummer. Maybe it'll come back again in the future.
Mr Mild Mannered in reply to kdiddy13Feb 28, 2008. 11:51 AM
try using the wayback machine, search google for it.
rinorizzi says: Feb 29, 2008. 4:10 AM
puoi mettere in rete i files dei disegni "4Axle-rev4-circles" e "escapement-ratchet" in formato DWG. Io non ho il programma free2design. grazie
marvay (author) in reply to rinorizziFeb 29, 2008. 11:55 AM
I will try to export the files to DWG or DXF this weekend. I don't know how well it will work, and I don't have AutoCAD to test them. I've tried exporting them and opening them in Blender but they didn't convert very well.
lordhazzard says: Feb 10, 2008. 3:37 AM
would it be possible to create a template so that the gears can be mass produced by laser cut at a site like ponoko.com, i would love a clock like this ticking away next to my pc. but it would be easier just to get the parts laser cut, then u could have like a clear plasitc clock. woah, that would be cool!
rennysoncemann says: Feb 1, 2008. 6:39 PM
One other comment (sorry) - a heavy pendulum bob may indeed be harder to keep running than a light one, but it's not because of the weight of the bob - it's because a heavy bob is probabaly physically larger than a light one, causing more air friction. To keep the pendulum going you only have to replace the energy lost to friction, and this doesn't depend on the bob's weight, only on air resistance and friction in the escapement. A heavy or light bob of the same shape will lose energy at the same rate, but a large spherical bob will lose energy faster than a disk-shaped bob (even if the disk is heavier). Which explains why most pendulum clocks have disk-shaped bobs.
rennysoncemann says: Feb 1, 2008. 6:24 PM
Actually, the width of arc of the pendulum swing **does** affect the period. The formula given is an approximation, accurate only for relatively narrow swings. That said, a weight driven clock will have a pretty constant swing, so once adjusted it will keep reasonably good time even with a fairly wide (but constant) swing. This is not the case with a spring driven clock - since a wider swing takes longer, the clock will run faster as its spring runs down.
stefke says: Jan 20, 2008. 9:14 AM
I have a question. Is it same if I make escapement gear bigger or smaller but the number of teeth is the same (30T) I mean is it matter if the radius is bigger or smaller for escapement gear (30T)
marvay (author) in reply to stefkeJan 22, 2008. 9:16 AM
The radius won't matter as far as the time is concerned. Where it will matter is when the gear gives the pallets a push. The push from a smaller gear won't be as strong as one from a larger gear. You need that push to keep the pendulum swinging. Also, creating the pallets to fit snugly into the teeth without interference might be a little harder if the gear is smaller.
stefke in reply to marvayJan 28, 2008. 3:05 AM
I have design the gears for clock from pictures I kneed your opinion about this gears because I am not god whit this program and I don't know how to design the escapement leaver for my gear.
marvay (author) in reply to stefkeFeb 1, 2008. 4:36 AM
I tried to download the file, but it gave me a "Permission Denied" error. The escapement is one of the hardest things, and I am still modifying mine. I've made my escapement lever a little larger, actually quite a bit larger. I followed the document in a link that Alathald posted. Here it is again so you don't have to try all the links. There is an E-Book on that page. In that book, there are some good calculations for designing your escapement pallets(Lever). If you follow that, it will give you a very good start if nothing else.
stefke in reply to marvayFeb 1, 2008. 2:00 PM
if you see image like this just click refresh
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Cool-fool says: Jan 17, 2008. 2:06 PM
Is there a way to make gears for those of us who suck at woodworking?
marvay (author) in reply to Cool-foolJan 17, 2008. 6:47 PM
The easiest way of making gears would be to use a CNC machine. You don't have to be good at woodworking, and you would get the best accuracy. I don't have access to anything cool like that, so I had to rely on my woodworking skills. I've tried several different ways to make the gears, thinking I could find an easier/better/faster way. Here are a few ways I tried and the results Dremel- it's too hard to cut the fine teeth without it catching the woodgrain and ripping through it, ruining the gear. Router with table- I thought I could move the piece of wood around the bit and easily cut out a gear. It worked with the larger gears with some success, but when it came down to the 8 tooth gear, my fingers were too close to the high speed bit. I value my fingers, so I decided against the router. Coping Saw - Would work, but very time consuming to cut all the teeth by hand. Scroll Saw - Best all round at cutting the teeth. It can cut very sharp corners, inside and out. The blade moves fast enough to cut and a decent speed, but slow relative to the other rotary tools. I didn't feel uncomfortable getting my fingers close to the blade. Actually my finger slipped and hit the blade. It put a good gouge in my finger, but didn't draw blood. It did give me a scare and I wouldn't recommend testing it.
robwok says: Jan 14, 2008. 6:04 AM
Beautiful. I built a wrebbit paper clock once and have been hooked ever since. I've collected a few paper clocks since then, but really want to build a wooden one. I have a complete wood shop, but have been too busy building furniture and cabinets. I like your method of cutting the gears with a drill and scroll saw. I wanted to build a wooden "gear cutter" but I think the more complexity, the less likely I'll actually build it.
-insertnamehere- says: Jan 11, 2008. 7:11 PM
I really like the sound of that clock! more of a clunk, clunk than a tick, tick :)
guyfrom7up says: Jan 9, 2008. 6:40 PM
nice, me and my friends are building 2 grandfather clocks made out of 100% wood. The only metal part would be the weight, but that'd be inside a wood case, plus the glass.
guyfrom7up in reply to guyfrom7upJan 9, 2008. 6:47 PM
the gears were a pain in the neck to cut, (getting fingers freaking close to the jigsaw/bandsaws), plus cutting over 1000 teeth isn't a walk in the park either. The winding mechanism was a nightmare to make (almost done with it, it contains over 25 pieces for the winding mechanisem). A hollow wooden tube for the clock display for the hours was pretty hard to make too. All in all we've been working on it at school since about october, but we're about 75% done.
marvay (author) in reply to guyfrom7upJan 10, 2008. 12:00 AM
There were many times I thought "if this hits a soft spot, there goes the tip of my thumb". Send me picture when you can. I'd love to see them. This was my first clock, so most of this was really figuring out how clocks work... gear trains, and the escapement. The next clock will look better. I'll spend most of my time on the design of the look since I have the mechanics figured out.
guyfrom7up in reply to marvayJan 10, 2008. 2:23 PM
ok, but it won't be done for about a month or so.
Rectifier says: Jan 9, 2008. 5:42 PM
Awesome! I've been intending to build one of these for awhile, but I can never justify starting a huge project like this with what I already have on my plate. Plus, I don't have a scroll saw, and think it would be hard to do with my bandsaw or jigsaw. Have you done any tests as to what the accuracy of this clock is? I heard that wooden clocks often lose many minutes per day - how did yours turn out?
marvay (author) in reply to RectifierJan 9, 2008. 11:40 PM
I wouldn't say it looses many minutes per day. That may be an issue with the wrong sizing of the pendulum. I also wouldn't set all the other clocks by this one. Depending on the size of your bandsaw, you may be able to cut the teeth. But I think a jigsaw would be out of the question.
Rectifier in reply to marvayJan 10, 2008. 2:12 AM
On the site I read while researching wooden clocks, it appeared that the inaccuracy was actually a function of the inherent sloppiness of wood; slightly uneven escapement teeth, expansion and contraction due to humidity and temperature, friction on various parts of the movement. Of course pendulum sizing is the single largest variable. Smallest blade I've run on the bandsaw is 1/8" - it would probably be fine. Unfortunately I live in an apartment now and my bandsaw is at my parents' house, across town... someday, I'll have a real house, and plenty of time to build clocks... How do you plan to finish the hour/minute hands? It's hard to tell which is which in its present state. Personally, when I make my clock, I plan to carve some rotating numbered discs, with the current time visible through stationary windows in the front. Just to be even more different, heh :D
Rectifier in reply to RectifierJan 10, 2008. 2:18 AM
Just found this pic of a watch that is kind of like the idea I have in mind. But with separate discs and much smaller individual windows for hours and minutes - and less shiny aluminum, more carved and burnt wood.

http://www.slipperybrick.com/2008/01/seiko-discus-watch/
whiteoakart says: Jan 9, 2008. 9:38 AM
Fantastic! Now, if I only had the time.... ;)
darus67 says: Jan 8, 2008. 3:01 PM
Nice to see that you added video. I was thinking it would be cute if the robot guy was linked to the escapement so he would rock back & forth.
omnibot says: Jan 2, 2008. 6:24 AM
Oohhh!!! What if I'd use a CNC and cut all the parts out in plexiglass. A seethrough clock!
marvay (author) in reply to omnibotJan 2, 2008. 10:42 AM
If I had a CNC or access to a CNC, I would definitely use it to cut the parts. It would be much faster, and more accurate. I'm fairly new at scroll saws, and my cuts aren't that pretty. I have seen clocks that were entirely plexiglas, and even a mixture of plexi, wood, and metal. There are many cool designs out there.
DonQuijote in reply to marvayJul 10, 2011. 7:12 AM
with all respect... i do not quite like plexi very much. wood, leather, metal... those are the things i like.. perhaps glass to.... so that's why i congratulate you marvay for your work. and i also appreciate you doing it by hand. i couldn't build that even if i had the time.... i like brainwork, such like programming computers, building CNC machines, to program them via computers to make pretty things for you, but there is a feeling in building something with my very own hands, that i cannot give up. keep doing it, unless of course, you don't like it the way i do...
omnibot in reply to DonQuijoteJan 8, 2008. 12:03 AM
I'd say you've done an amazing job there. I'm much to clumsy with any saw but I'm thinking of building a CNC.
renderman72 says: Jan 7, 2008. 3:38 PM
Excellent work Marvay! That clock could be the centerpiece for your Amish Casino :)
budsiskos says: Jan 6, 2008. 11:12 AM
you didnt talk about why the escapement gear is designed differently
marvay (author) in reply to budsiskosJan 6, 2008. 11:24 PM
The escape gear is designed differently because it's function is different than a normal gear. Most gears are designed to transfer the most amount of energy with minimal resistance to another gear. The Escape gear transfers this energy to a part that is not a gear, the escape pallets. This gear is also designed to allow interruption of motion by the escape pallets. When the pallet enters between the teeth, and stops the gear, there needs to be minimum recoil. If the escape gear recoils, it will throw off the timing. As the pallets exit from between the teeth the escape gear gives them a little push. This in turn gives the pendulum a little push to keep it swinging. The angle of the teeth, and angle of the pallets are critical in this mechanism. These angles are dependent on the size of your gear and size of your pallet.. In Alathald's comment below, the second link is an excellent site that has a PDF on designing escape mechanisms, focusing on a particular one called the Graham Pallet. I am thinking about re-designing my pallets based on this document. I'll post results, good or bad, when I do.
budsiskos says: Jan 4, 2008. 4:31 PM
really nice, but where do the weights or motors that make it spin go?
marvay (author) in reply to budsiskosJan 4, 2008. 10:36 PM
There is a ratchet and pulley that slip over the minute hand. A weight is suspended by a cord, and the cord is wrapped around the pulley. This weight is what powers the clock. One thing that might be helpful is an exploded view or assembly drawing. I'll try to put one together and add it to the files listed.
budsiskos in reply to marvayJan 5, 2008. 8:32 PM
ok i see that now but what causes the spring that makes the ratchet to lock back into place?
marvay (author) in reply to budsiskosJan 6, 2008. 10:45 PM
Here is a drawing showing the ratchet and spring. The ratchet spins loosely on the axle. The pulley that the cord and weight is wrapped around is attached to the ratchet. There is a lever that is attached to the gear by a pivot. This lever engages the ratchet to prevent the ratchet from spinning clockwise. When the ratchet and pulley are rotated counter-clockwise, the lever pivots up with each tooth, and allows the ratchet to spin. This is how you wind the clock. When winding is finished, there is a spring attached to the gear that does not pivot. This presses down against the lever causing it to lock against the ratchet. The weight on the cord causes the ratchet to rotate clockwise. Since the lever is locked in, it turns the whole gear.
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budsiskos says: Jan 5, 2008. 8:19 PM
instead of having us calculate the gear ratios could you simply post the teeth number for each gear and we could probably get it from there
marvay (author) in reply to budsiskosJan 6, 2008. 10:34 PM
In Step 4, there is a spreadsheet with each gear, the number of teeth, and the ratio that the gear train creates. But for a quick reference, here are the Gears and their teeth: Each line represents an axle Pinion1 - 12 teeth Wheel 1 - 36 teeth , Pinion 2 - 10 teeth Wheel 2 - 40 teeth, Pinion 3 - 8 teeth Wheel 3 - 40 teeth, Pinion 4 - 12 teeth Wheel 4 - 40 teeth, Pinion 5 10 teeth Wheel 5 - 36 teeth. The escapement gear has 30 teeth and is not in the list above since it does not factor into the calculation of the gear ratios.
jrv_boots says: Jan 4, 2008. 11:57 PM
Nice one, Marvay. I also have been considering making a wooden clock. The setup I was considering was using a planetary gear sets. This would allow the rachet to be located near the front of the mechanism and the escapement to the rear. Also the hour hand would be on a large diameter dowel bored through for the minute dowel to go through.
crucibles r us says: Jan 4, 2008. 10:33 AM
You do realise that if you can get a decent production line for these, you can sell them for loads :)
Alathald says: Jan 2, 2008. 11:45 PM
This is cool, I've wanted to do something like this for a long time but haven't started it yet. With a bit more work and designing, you could have a single clock face by having the axle for the hour hand hollow and running the minute hand through like you did with your ratchet mechanism but it would definitely be more work.

Other than that, remember that there are many other interesting gear styles and escapements depending on what style your into. Here's a site with some interesting thoughts on gear design and here's one with great information on many different types of escapements. BTW your escapement appears to be a variation on the swiss lever design.

All in all, a very good and informative instructable. +1 and faved!
marvay (author) in reply to AlathaldJan 3, 2008. 10:15 PM
Thanks for the links. The first one seems to be down, but the second one has a great e-book on escapements. I could have used this while designing the clock. It has a great way of sizing a Graham pallet to the escapement wheel. I am going to have to look it over and see how my design compares to it. I think the escapement is a combination of a Swiss lever club tooth design and a modified Graham. Thanks.
Alathald in reply to marvayJan 3, 2008. 11:51 PM
Hmm, that's odd cause the link was working last night when I posted it but it doesn't work now...alas, it really didn't have much info, the only thing noteworthy is the idea of making sure that the ratio between any two gears isn't a integer thus producing more even wear on the gears. So basically if the gear ratio between two of the gears is 4:1 (or 1:4) the same teeth will engage every time around possibly producing an uneven wear on some of the teeth. If the gear ratio is something like 8:3 or some other none integer ratio, different teeth will engage each time around producing a more even wear pattern. Something I'd like to try sometime (if I ever get around to making a clock) is to make one with a large planetary gear so the ring part hangs just outside the body so it's clearly visible. Also, it could help because planetary gears have a relatively high ratio compared to spur gears of the same size. Just some ideas...
darus67 says: Jan 2, 2008. 2:54 PM
Nice looking work. I wish I had the time and patience to build something like that. The result of all that work deserves to be seen. A clear front panel would be nice. Another possibility would be to cut out the front panel in a nice looking way that exposes the gearing but still supports the shafts.
marvay (author) in reply to darus67Jan 3, 2008. 9:57 PM
Great idea! I can cut 'windows' into the front panel. That way I don't have to compromise the wood construction with plexi, but still be able to see the gears in motion. I just need to make sure I don't weaken it too much. Thanks!
elwood123 says: Jan 3, 2008. 11:48 AM
Nice! I have never dabbled in woodworking, but this project has sparked my interest. Great Job.
Shifrin says: Nov 3, 2009. 7:39 PM
This is really a great Idea, when I make this, after i'm done i'm going to paint pop art on it, it will be colorful and Cool. Great Instructable!
helmutgranda says: Jan 2, 2008. 7:15 PM
Great job! I want one for Christmas!
ewilhelm says: Jan 2, 2008. 12:17 PM
Fantastic project! I'm anxiously awaiting a video.

It reminded me of a 3D-printed clock I was working on a long time ago. I just posted a Slideshow here: 3D-Printed Clock and Gears.
glubash says: Jan 2, 2008. 11:04 AM
Marvay - looks like an awesome project! I might just have to invest in a scroll saw and some software.
DonQuijote says: Jan 2, 2008. 12:27 AM
wow! great idea and great instructable, except for one thing. would you mind posting a video of it working? i mean, now it'll be probably pretty boring, but when you put that plexi face...
marvay (author) in reply to DonQuijoteJan 2, 2008. 10:50 AM
I will try to get something up, but I'm not sure when. Now with the holidays over, and the start of the new year, the next few weeks are looking busier as the day goes on. Possibly this weekend? ( I Hope)
darkmuskrat says: Jan 2, 2008. 10:07 AM
Dam, its pretty amazing it worked. I would just CNC it for accuracy.
marvay (author) in reply to darkmuskratJan 2, 2008. 10:47 AM
If I could have CNC'd it, the gears would definitely be more accurate, and I would have created a better design. Maybe a spiral in the gears instead of straight spokes. A better faceplate ... I've wanted to build a CNC machine for a while, but at the moment, my availability is a little time here and there. I'm surprised I finished the clock. Thanks
Tree63Fan says: Jan 2, 2008. 10:28 AM
Marvay, Nice job! I'm sending this link to my Uncle who loves woodworking. ~JVL in Indy
thenerd says: Jan 2, 2008. 12:09 AM
I love this, I've been wanting to make a wooden clock for a while but haven't been able to find good instructions. thanks
GorillazMiko says: Jan 1, 2008. 10:47 PM
Cool! Looks like a lot of work, math, and stuff like that. Great job!
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