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ZIPPER STAIRS - a new type of stairway using Nylon-Cement

ZIPPER STAIRS - a new type of stairway using Nylon-Cement
Stairways have been a part of architecture for thousands of years. Zipper Stairs are a new type of stairway.

My inspiration for zipper stairs came from a visit to Mesa Verde National Park, where the Anasazi Indians had carved hand and foot holes in the rocks to climb up to their cliff dwellings. Their holes were small, and were probably chipped out with much difficulty using crude tools. If one were to expand the holes until they touched each other, something they did not do, the end result would be similar to zipper stairs.

Stairs are used to climb an inclined plane. They have a vertical face and a horizontal face. As the inclined plane gets steeper, the vertical face gets higher and the horizontal face gets narrower. The higher the step, the harder it is on ones knees. As the horizontal face gets narrower, ones foot eventually doesnt fit on the step, unless the foot is placed sideways, which is awkward. Going up and down traditional steps becomes more dangerous the steeper they get.

Using zipper stairs on the same slope, there are more steps, so the vertical rise for each one is shorter and more comfortable for ones knees. Also, by turning the steps at an angle to each other, one gets the diagonal distance of the rectangle for ones foot, which is longer than the short distance provided by normal stairs. Zipper stairs are more comfortable and safer for steep slopes than are traditional stairs.

This instructable will show some of the zipper stairs I have made over the years and follow one stairway project from beginning to end.
 
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Step 1The Project Begins

The Project Begins
This is the work site at the beginning of the project. There are two basic problems; the stairway, and water drainage, which has gouged out a ravine next to where the stairs will go. This instructable covers only the stairway.

The slope is steep, a perfect place to use zipper stairs.

After the stairs are carved into the dirt, and the ravine is filled, everything will be covered by a layer of nylon-cement. Nylon-cement is a combination of nylon fishnet and cement, a material I developed many years ago, and have built my whole house out of. You can see one project I have done with it on my road repair instructable, http://www.instructables.com/id/ROAD-REPAIR-with-NYLON-CEMENT/

Think of nylon-cement as you would a layer of fiberglass. The fishnet replaces the glass cloth, and the cement replaces the resin.
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Jun 23, 2010. 7:05 PMEmmettO says:
These are in essence jefferson stairs and are not new. I just built some for a customer. You can see more of them here. http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=jefferson+stairs&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=7rwiTO7bNoOBlAeQrIDsBQ&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CDcQsAQwAw
Oct 14, 2010. 8:17 AMDallasDeckard says:
The problem with these, and with Jefferson stairs (which are similar, but not the same as these) is: they are for young, able people. Older folks tend to take stairs one-at-a-time, or a couple and then rest. With these, and Jefferson stairs, there is no place to put two feet on the same step (so one remains "level"). As with Jefferson stairs, once you begin, you go till you hit the top. You can stop, but then you're straddling steps with one foot at one level, and one at another. As with Jefferson stairs, these won't pass code in most places. I think they are very cool and took some obvious intelligence to design, but I dislike designs that exclude certain folks. Little ones tend to take stairs like older folks, one-at-a-time, so they are excluded, as are older folks. Also excluded are moms leading up little ones. Perhaps if each tread were lengthened a person could rest on one step easily, which would make it more accessible for little guys and older folks, and parents with kids in tow.

Concerning your comments on "traditional stairs", it's all in the design. If someone tries to build a stair with a very short overall run, the only way to accomplish that is to increase the individual rise of each tread or decrease the tread length. However, there are codes governing this and they stipulate that the rise and run of each tread falls within an (easily scalable) specific height or length, which (by default) limits the slope of any stair. No stair built today would ever pass code where (as you say) "ones foot eventually doesnt fit on the step, unless the foot is placed sideways, which is awkward." Treads must be a certain length (length here is measured from one rise to another). The IRC stipulates the following codes: "10” minimum tread length, measured from nose to nose of adjacent treads, is required. IRC RR 314.2 16. Risers shall not measure more than 7,3/4”. IRC RR314.2 17. A maximum 3/8” differential is permitted from the largest to the smallest tread, or the largest to the smallest riser. IRC RR314.2" These are easily climbed by the young and old alike.

Your design seems as it is meant (primarily) to solve the problem of maximizing space. By placing more treads (and hence individual rises) in a smaller space (a shorter overall run) it maximizes space, and it is safer than someone building something out of code with unsafe rises or tread lengths - no doubt about that. I just don't see why either need be an option. Even in your example here, you have more room for a longer run, why not just build a standard stair with a safe rise and run? Yours are certainly safer than a steep rise or shallow run, but why do either? It's cool, but it limits accessibility and trades safety for a high "neato" factor. I suppose if someone were building it for themselves, and had limited depth for a regular run of stairs, this might be fun, but what about when they get older? One could just as easily build a circular design, that handily accommodates a limited depth.
May 24, 2012. 4:04 PMPACW says:
I am one of those people who take normal stairs one step at a time and I am quite excited about this design. It looks like it would be much easier on my wrecked knee and ankle.

As for passing code . . . .
May 24, 2012. 4:07 PMPACW says:
Okay. Instructables seemed to have cut off my libertarian rant. Oh well. Long story short - too much government; too little innovation.
Oct 14, 2010. 5:57 PMDallasDeckard says:
You are right, they are 'neato" and perhaps I'd eat my words if I saw them in action. From the photos though, it doesn't look as if it would be easy to stand on a single step, and then move on. as you say, doing so causes a change in "trajectory", which (in my humble opinion) is dangerous.

I'm glad to hear no child has ever fallen, particularly if a lot of kids have climbed them.

I can assure you that the stair codes are constantly being revisited, challenged and (very rarely) changed based upon many, many local and national meetings. I, myself have attended and presented at local meetings for changes to the codes. The inspectors and officials that are responsible for setting and enforcing the codes are well aware of the different designs (including Jefferson stairs) and have rejected these as unsafe for various reasons. I was actually at a code meeting at the local level in a city (suburb) that was using codes to hinder construction. They were making codes so restrictive that it took either too much time or too much money to make building feasible. The code in question was "continuous rail". Most cities interpret it to mean that the handrail must run from the first rise to the last rise with no breaks in the rail, unless there is a change in direction (at the turn) whereupon a newel (post) may be placed. Some cities don't allow a newel (post) and the rail must be continuous. However, this city interpreted "breaks" to mean that the handrail couldn't have *any* cuts in it. For example, say there was a small opening rake and then a landing with a 90 degree change in direction, which continues on for another rake run, the rail could not be cut and pieced together to create a continuous rail. They interpreted it to mean the rail had to be uncut, which meant it had to be bent rail, which was impossible in many situations (which is what they wanted). So, homebuilders began to design only stairs that were circular or straight with changes that could be covered with bent rail (a real feat in some cases, I don't mind telling you).

At any rate, at this meeting a landscaper presented his case for steps up a walkway that were similar (in some ways) to your design, although his were much less elegant. He presented, they laughed, we moved on. They've seen other designs and rejected them. I presented at the same meeting with a representative from one of the spiral stair companies (the kind that sell as "kits") because of a problem they were having concerning the way the two types of handrail met at the top. The spiral stairs were built with either iron, or wooden handrail that was not available from any stair part supplier. The inspectors were red-tagging it because there was a difference in the profile of the handrail, which they interpreted as a "break" in the rail. We presented a compromise which they took under advisement, which must have worked because the inspectors quit red tagging us. Point being, they know the different designs that are out there, and they reject them as "unsafe".

I'll tell you why your stairs would be rejected, because only one person may terminate at a time. This is a big no-no in the construction of stairs, particularly a commercial installation (which your stairs have been built for, unless I'm mistaken). Commercial codes are more restrictive than residential codes, but one of the cardinal rules there is that case must be wide enough, and the treads designed such that they accommodate more than one person. This is important, for example, in case of a fire. You can't have one incapacitated person clogging up the entire egress for everyone else. There must be room to tend to that person, while the others continue to exit. The other reason why they would be rejected is for the reason I already mentioned, a person must be able to take one tread at a time and be able to stop, with both feel on the same tread (facing forward) in any installation (even a spiral one). For folks to do that on your design, they would have to make a (rather marked) change in direction, basically turning 45 degrees each time. That is simply unsafe.

What you say is true, smaller rises are easier for older folks to climb, but that is just one part of the puzzle to making a safe, scalable stair. Smaller rises are easily accomplished in a traditional stair, with standard treads, as long as there is enough room for the overall run. You see these types in some cities, where there are many long, wide treads and small (less than 5") rises built in concrete. There is one in a city center near me with a fountain in the middle.

I agree with you, the neato factor is important - not more important that safety and accessability - and sholud be considered any time anything is designed for humans to use. I built stairs for 20 years and constructed some pretty neato designs myself, though none as radical as yours. I put up some of the more traditional ones on my Flickr page here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/areasonableman/sets/72157602540013509/

In the future I'll put up ones that were more unconventional, including a stair I did for a man that was WAY into fish, which incorporated saltwater tanks in the walls, custom, metal balusters shaped like dolphins and a huge rail that undulated like waves. The problem is, in many of the more custom homes, the homeowners either make you sign a contract prohibiting you "sharing" the design, or posting pics. Sometimes it helps waiting a few years for them to decide no one is going to heist "their" (my) design.

The most neato thing you've ever done is add testicles to a water spigot. Hands down. It took real balls to do that!
Oct 26, 2010. 12:33 PMGoedjn says:
Aren't those basically what BOCA calls an alternating tread
stairway? Those are, last I looked, legal anywhere a ladder
would be legal.


Oct 26, 2010. 8:18 PMDallasDeckard says:
Alternating tread egress is allowed in certain, specific instances. None of them involve public access: penal facilities, industrial/mechanical areas, factory, high-hazard or storage occupancy rated structures.
Oct 28, 2010. 10:29 PMDallasDeckard says:
If it's just for you, then I think it rocks! I was interested in it because I'm always interested in different designs of stairs. I thought you were building these for commercial locations.

The thing I like about the stuff you build is, there is no precedent for it. I'm sure you hear this a lot, "Oh, you can't do that" - or, "That won't work that way". I've heard that so many times it makes me boil. I've gotten to where when someone asks why I need this or that part, or some product, I don't tell them or I just make something up, because I don't need some pneumatic tool salesman to tell me that I can't use brass fittings for a glue bottle or whatever.

When you innovate - as you do - you always get someone telling you "it won't work" or "that's not right" or whatever. I didn't mean to turn into that guy. If I wasn't interested in the design and the application, I wouldn't have brought up the issues with it I did.
Apr 14, 2012. 4:45 AMWepwopper says:
Thanks for the great instructable!

I love the natural look of these and they would definitely be easier on my knees. :)

I could sure use a set of these down my hillside to stop erosion and give me access to my 'back 40'. :)

It looks to me as though it channels water down the center. Does that create water damage at the bottom?

Mar 27, 2012. 4:52 AMclaudg1950 says:
A few more pictures of what may be called -now I learned- a Jefferson stair.

These images follow the alternating steps concept. However, the 45 degree angled steps you created for your project seem to be uniquely yours. Well done
Mar 26, 2012. 11:05 AMclaudg1950 says:
A very interesting idea. A somehow similar concept -alternating feet- was apparently applied in the images I'm attaching. (Left side shows front views, while right side shows top to bottom views.)

The design with triangular solid rungs seems to be specially applicable to your case.

Thank you for your valuable instructables.
Feb 1, 2012. 6:33 PMluckypalm says:
Have you considered snow/construction fence? The DM504 has a 1-1/4" grid

http://www.discountfence.com/snowfence/snow_and_barrier_fence_index.htm

I recently came across your site after looking at the magnesium ferrocement on Owen Geiger's earthbag blog as nylon cement is mentioned.
Sep 29, 2011. 9:44 AMmgalyean says:
First, I really like the directions your mind takes in your instructables.

The zipper-stairs are just plain elegant. The minute mentioned Mesa Verde I knew exactly what you meant. The idea of joining the foot/hand holds into stair-like structure is very cool. Major kudos for that.

As for the nylon-cement, what is the oldest structure you have made of it and how is the nylon holding up? Or, to put it another way, do you feel the net is only necessary as a structural element until the cement cures, or do you think it provides 'rebar' like strength even after cure, and if so, for how long? I'm just looking for gut answers here, nothing scientific. I'm thinking the nylon would not last as long as galvanized chicken wire, even embedded in concrete, but am not sure that really matters if the crete is thick enough and "domed/arched" enough to provide its own structural properties. I live on an island in the NC sounds and old fishnet is always washing up somewhere. My 14 y.o. son recently made a new net for his basketball hoop out of some he'd found while oystering.

Feb 11, 2011. 6:36 AMivan_s says:
great idea ¡¡¡
Outdoor special

Feb 9, 2011. 7:31 PMTAKuhn says:
I love the stairs they look completely ergonomic. Safety wise the problem with stairs is not generally missing the next step but clipping it with a toe (going up) or heal (going down, yes a pun) that sends a person tumbling so the zipper stair angle in the center gives more than enough room for foot clearince and hand rails of any sort would decrease the chance of falling significantly.
Thank you for a brilliant design.
Apr 30, 2010. 6:19 AMartcobain says:
 wow! is it you invention? is it easier to climb at that? i think that there should be a new philosophy about stairs in architecture. and this is awesome.
Aug 3, 2010. 9:53 AMLighthouse says:
this is very similar to what is known as a "monk's ladder" stair
Aug 4, 2010. 5:01 AMLighthouse says:
this is a monk's ladder i built to access a window leading to a fire escape. i like the idea of using the same concept in the solid stairs you built up the side of the hill. it looks more 'natural' than normal stairs.

May 31, 2010. 1:36 AMsteveastrouk says:
I found these things on-line - they'd make a great way to apply the finish.
www.mortarsprayer.com
May 16, 2010. 6:06 PMwrylieg says:
Hey, just wanted to say that this is a really neat idea.

I have seen something similar to this, built out of metal, in a zoo (behind the scenes of course). They used it in their giraffe area (very tall, but not a whole lot of horizontal space to work with). I wish I had taken a picture now.

These are really neat and look very nice in the outdoor setting you have made =)
May 7, 2010. 3:24 PMDIYDragon says:
Those steps are awesome! I have no idea where I would put them, but I'd like to build some someplace. xD
May 5, 2010. 5:14 PMh.a. riddle says:
Thinkenstein
   What great Info.  I would like to build a shelter and boulder for my goats.  I live in the flat lands of southern Illinois.  Do you have other pictures of this structure completed. 

Thank you

HR

P.S. I lived 3 doors down from Bucky Fullers 1st dome in Carbondale, Illinois.  He taught there long before i was born but his legacy is still there.
Apr 29, 2010. 9:34 PMRune Cutter says:
Elegant genius, I hope this goes viral and you become the newest name in architecture, very very nice
Apr 25, 2010. 12:21 PMbuteman says:
Hi,
Just came across this and think it solves a problem I have been wanting to overcome for years. Thanks for a really great instructable.
Aug 3, 2009. 8:56 AMtheRIAA says:
wow, those are pretty sweet. great job on everything. I have to admit, i would've thought the last stairs on the trail we're some kind of erosion control or something if i ever encountered them.
Aug 9, 2009. 2:25 PMrandomhat says:
Have you tried considering cheese clothe? You can buy online fairly large and wide rolls of the stuff. But the weave might be to tight for cement. I have a friend who uses it as an alternative to cabonfiber and fiberglass in resine applications.
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I'm a refugee from Los Angeles, living in backwoods Puerto Rico for about 35 years now and loving it. I built my own home from discarded nylon fishnet and cement.