Introduction: ZKAR All Modded Up

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These are 4 mods that I could fit on the zkar at once that all improve performance or connivance.

They are:

-No broken part in the bullet lock - Mepain

-Better pin guide - Kinetic (This is probably the best and most helpful, because I don't know about you guys, but I had lots of trouble with zak's, his was just terrible. You had to tape it, the pin guide had to be a grey rod so it could bend, and it never attached right. For a while I just took it off, until I saw Kinetics on his vice ckg)

-New trigger that blocks farther back and does not bend or need tape - Me

-Top loading mag with a lock-down pusher to make loading easier - BakenBitz (GrandeSwag)

I got lazy on the stock, so what.

Oh and credit to zak (knarez) for the original design.

Sorry the image notes suck, I can click and make one, but they are all the same square shape, so sorry if I don't seem to point out something well with a box.

Comments

LvNo1000 (author)2014-01-07

Looking at the main picture in the search area, it just looked like a lazy version of the ZKAR (that handle). It was judging a book by its cover, though, when I finally came around to clicking this and saw all the mods you did to it. I'll definitely try it, but I'm not sure of the reliability of that breach (about weither bullets would fall out). Anyway, for my not-so-heavily-modded ZKAR, I put some wheels on the top that the rubber band was on, and some barriers set so I could fling the band off the mag pusher, pull it down to the bottom, and load it through my breach that was only exposed when the pusher is all the way down, then strap the bands back on when I need it (all thi being on only 1 side of the gun, so it wasn't too slow) plus adding a couple things from the ZKAR 3 (trigger, and no broken piece bolt part). Definitely going to try this

thenolo (author)2013-10-22

hey guy, this is my first time building a knex gun, any tips?

LvNo1000 (author)thenolo2014-01-07

The ZKAR might be a bit too hard right now. Try some other guns first, then build the original, then you might try this one

Sharir1701 (author)2012-03-09

about the bullet lock mod, there's a much simpler and better one (in my opinion). just put a male ball socket on the 4-way connector from the mag wall and that's it.

about the pin guide, i made a different back connection, but i love the idea. it's MUCH better.

i like the concept for the trigger, though i liked zak's one better, because none of the problems many have listed happened to me. it was 100% reliable with 3 #64s and 1 layer of tape. it never banded or jammed or anything for me.

i really don't like the breach load, idk why, i just don't. it doesn't work well for me.

overall, nice mods, 4*.

wout147 (author)2012-02-04

nice mods i really liked it, the trigger doesn`t jam anymore

dr. richtofen (author)2012-01-17

Very nice trigger idea! good mods overall
Oh and for the image notes: you can deform them with the corners connected to the typing block

DJ Radio (author)2011-10-15

Clever trigger.

~KGB~ (author)DJ Radio2011-10-16

+1

beanieostrich (author)~KGB~2011-10-16

+2

MegaMetal8 (author)beanieostrich2011-10-16

+3

TigerNod (author)MegaMetal82011-10-19

+4

MegaMetal8 (author)TigerNod2011-10-21

CONGRATS - 2800th Commenter (for me) =)

TigerNod (author)MegaMetal82011-10-22

Lol, why do you even count how many comments you have?

MegaMetal8 (author)TigerNod2011-10-22

I don't....

When you log on it says how many comment you have - ATM I have 2808

And I no that without counting or keeping track.

TigerNod (author)MegaMetal82011-10-24

Funny. You have twice as many comments, despite that my account is four times older than yours. ;-)

MegaMetal8 (author)TigerNod2011-10-28

Really, guess that proves im a chatterbox! ;-)

TigerNod (author)MegaMetal82011-10-31

Maybe, I suppose. Not that being chatty is a bad thing. (Oh, and the fact that I have been inactive for months might change things too.)

MegaMetal8 (author)TigerNod2011-11-08

Oh yes.

MegaMetal8 (author)TigerNod2011-10-21

Yay

~KGB~ (author)beanieostrich2011-10-16

=D

TheRacker (author)DJ Radio2011-10-15

Thanks. I hated zak's, because you needed tape and the connections would always bend and sometimes not fire. I have 3 64's on this trigger right now, and no problems.

DJ Radio (author)TheRacker2011-10-17

The problem I had with Zak's trigger was that sometimes it wouldn't catch the pin.

TigerNod (author)DJ Radio2011-10-19

I had the problem too. Figured out that by placing a green rod onto the blocking part of the trigger (essentially making the green rod the part that blocks) the pin catches better. It does however have the other problem that it sort of pulls the pin upwards a lot of the time... Which is even worse.

This is a much better solution though.

TheRacker (author)TigerNod2011-10-27

A green rod is what is supposed to block....It is that way in the instructions.

TheRacker (author)DJ Radio2011-10-18

Yeah, that happened sometimes too, I think it was because the tape caused so much friction in the mech that the trigger band wouldn't pull it down enough. But this trigger catches every time. =)

TigerNod (author)2011-10-19

Really nice. I think I will be building this instead of my own ZKAR mod.

Btw, do you have the link to Kinetic's pin guide?

TheRacker (author)TigerNod2011-10-19

I have a multiple close-ups of it. I just don't have image notes because they are messed up now. On the back of the gun, instead of actually attaching to anything, it just is held in place between the gap made by the 2 red connectors in the bolt and 2 grey connectors snapped on the blue rod above. There is a y-clip between the 2 greys to keep them apart while not protruding below. If you don't get it, just build what you see in the pictures. And I got it from his Vice CKG forum topic.

TigerNod (author)TheRacker2011-10-22

Don't get it, sorry. Pictures are not clear since I can't quite see how they attach, and the description is a little vague. You have a link to that topic? Plz? :-)

TheRacker (author)TigerNod2011-10-22

Oh if you are talking about the back of the pin guide, it is the same as a normal zkar.

TigerNod (author)TheRacker2011-10-28

I dont know but this cant be right. This looks really awkward? The pin guide twists even more than with the original. I must have done something wrong.

TheRacker (author)TigerNod2011-10-28

Oh and what gun is this? I don't see a zkar.

TigerNod (author)TheRacker2011-10-31

It is in all respects a ZKAR. I just removed my trigger group and added a pump. This is part of a mod by me. (Will have a pump, very long body, sear trigger.)

TheRacker (author)TigerNod2011-10-31

Gonna have to brace that pump area a lot, because right now it will snap right as you pick it up. Cool mod though. Oh and how is the pin guide?

TigerNod (author)TheRacker2011-11-02

I know, I really dont like the pump this way, but that is about to change. I think I'll have to make this an 11 layer gun (yellow rod) to make this work.

About the pin guide: it is e is in that image above. I think something is completely wrong.

TheRacker (author)TigerNod2011-11-02

Looks right, as long as it sits below the blue rod. Just try a pin on it, it will be fine. It has to slope that much, or else it would be too high and just not work, like zaks.

TheRacker (author)TigerNod2011-10-28

No, I think that is right. If it was straight, then it would be too high. Most pin guides go up or down a bit, it is fine. And once you put the bolt handle and pin on, you will see how good it is. Oh and make sure to rotate that top blue connector so that the gap is on the same side that the other one is, so the bolt has a flat surface to rest on.

TheRacker (author)TigerNod2011-10-22

He doesn't explain it on the topic. I just saw it and used it. And his pictures don't even have a close up. Just build what you see and you'll get it. I don't know how to explain it more. The front of the pin guide doesn't actualy attach to anything, but it is held in place well. The blue rod on top of the pin guide that is attached to the 2 blue connectors has grey-yclip-grey on it. That is all the help I can give you. Again, just build what you see and you will get it.

knexguy6 (author)2011-10-19

could you please add more pics of al the mods im finding it hard to get it right just from these pictures. :)

TheRacker (author)knexguy62011-10-19

What do you need help with specifically? There aren't image notes because they are messed up now, but I will try. And if you need instructions for the original gun, go here. http://knexinnovation.net/showthread.php?527-ZKAR-Zak-s-K-nex-Assault-Rifle

knexguy6 (author)TheRacker2011-10-22

its oke now, it just took me a while to find out that in pic.7 those pieces had to go in the gun. i really love the gun and you're mods. they make it look more slim and tactical and it really saves on the parts. .5 :)

TheRacker (author)knexguy62011-10-22

Thanks a lot. Glad you like it.

MegaMetal8 (author)2011-10-16

AMAZING

TheRacker (author)MegaMetal82011-10-16

Thanks. Are you going to build?

MegaMetal8 (author)TheRacker2011-10-17

You mean build a ZKAR then do these updates? If so, probably not. :)

TheRacker (author)MegaMetal82011-10-17

Yeah, but build these in as you go, so you don't have to tear apart the whole gun afterward.

MegaMetal8 (author)TheRacker2011-10-21

I've gone off K'Nex guns sorta. ATM Im mainly building anything other than a gun.

An Villain (author)2011-10-15

Nice.

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