Easy instructions how to make a simple snare that can be used in a survival situation.

WARNING... this should only be used in a survival situation. It is illegal to trap game animals without a license.
 
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Future filmaker says: Sep 20, 2009. 10:52 AM
I heard that rabbits are considered a pest, which means that it would be considered legal to trap without a license, is that true?
srollason says: Aug 15, 2012. 6:35 AM
all depends on where you live.
in Australia you can trap them without a license, you would have to check your local laws to find out what the requirement is.
recyclebin (author) says: Aug 3, 2010. 11:21 PM
no they are protected and illeagle to kill out of season or without a hunting licence unless it is a life or death matter
cotofana says: Sep 17, 2010. 3:27 PM
Uhm, not here they're not. In this state, anything that looks or acts like a big rodent can be live trapped and must thereafter either be killed or released.
yerm says: Oct 14, 2011. 9:45 PM
hehe he said overy
Josehf Murchison says: Oct 10, 2011. 3:02 PM
Personally I prefer brass snare wire and a fixed snare, this looks like a drag snare. The animal can run and be lost in the bush.

There are many articles that can be sighted as to survival in the wilderness, however there are two reasons hunting is in the fall. Breading is over and animals starve in the winter that is why hunters cull the heard in the fall.

The snow shoe rabbit does not fully digest it food so in the winter when food is scarce the snow shoe rabbit eats its own fecal material.

I wouldn’t want to eat the rabbits dinner.
mista.v says: Jan 17, 2011. 3:25 PM
Would you put bait in this, or just wait for animals to run by?
Frowney001 says: Jun 20, 2011. 6:22 AM
depends on how long you want to wait
OfficerKarl says: Feb 11, 2009. 3:24 PM
I think everyone who has ever posted a comment online should read this comic:

http://xkcd.com/481/

Good comic for intelligent people, btw.
carpe_noctem says: Nov 24, 2010. 9:40 AM
YES! It needed to be said! Thank you! Thank the artist! Thank everyone!
jagman111 says: Jan 14, 2010. 11:53 AM
I have one thing to say lets take one vegan and one hunter put them in the wilderness for 2 months and find out who comes out .
kicker109 says: Oct 6, 2010. 9:13 PM
I vote the Vegan
GeckoHiker says: Mar 1, 2010. 7:03 AM

I've done a several survival courses in my life and the instructors always admit that the use of snares and fishing line is mainly for entertainment purposes in a survival situation.  They had us skinning cattail roots and gutting dandelion greens for food, and setting snares and fishing for amusement.  One winter we made toasted pine jerky from the tender inner layer of pine bark, stole walnuts from squirrels, and dug up wild onions.  The squirrels often forget their caches so no squirrels were actually harmed during that expedition in winter wilderness survival.

The vegan will come out on top because human civilization is predominantly built on plant predation and the vegan has made a study of plant food sources that hunters will ignore.  In most hunter-gatherer societies the gatherers keep everyone afloat when the hunters frequently come back empty handed.  If you know your local vegetation you can eat well through the winter.  Even the game that you might possibly catch with snares eats vegetation to survive, and so can you.  The Roman army survived long marches by eating greens found along the way, accompanied by a bit of salt.  The salt paid to the Roman troops was their "salary".   In Icaria, residents eat wild greens and have an exceedingly long and healthy life.  Their lifestyle and diet is being studied now to discover why greens are so life sustaining.  I see bison and cattle surviving on greens and they are much bigger than I am.  Obviously, greens in the wild is the real key to survival.




 

ortsa says: Sep 4, 2010. 5:08 AM
Unless you want to be eating all day like a herbivore you are gonna need some meat to stay in shape.
Bill1965 says: Aug 28, 2010. 3:43 AM
I have to say unless you are very familiar with local flora, eat bambi and thumper. Pretty much anything crawls, swims , runs , or flys ( good luck) is edible, eating a plant your unfamilar with is not a good Idea.
spaghetti-o says: Aug 18, 2009. 2:54 PM
thank you have helped me out alot to make this in quickedy lick speed *hug*
Sgt.Waffles says: Jun 20, 2008. 7:22 PM
Snares made of string or twine are generally not used. Trapped animals have a knack for chewing through the weak fibers. If you are serious about trapping, invest in some high tensile trip wire available at any army suplus store, swap meet, etc.
rownhunt says: Jul 6, 2009. 4:41 PM
go to a hardware store and by yourself some brass wire and your good also
recyclebin (author) says: Jun 21, 2008. 11:49 AM
Thanks, i havent gotton my licence yet so im not trapping, but i do have military tripwire.
ve2vfd says: Jun 21, 2008. 11:59 AM
I agree, metallic snare wire is more efficient, and more humane as it can't be chewed thru, and can only get tighter as the animal fights (so it will die faster, snaring animals sometimes ain't pretty). Also make sure you check your snares often as predators may "help themselves" to an easy meal if you catch anything. Also having a small calibre weapon (like a .22) when checking your snares is a good idea (to finish off an animal as quickly as possible if it ain't dead, and in case you attracted predators).
bubba j says: Jun 1, 2009. 8:54 AM
ya my 10/22 ain't much use on the couger in my neiborhood that they still haven't caught for a year and he's stealing my squirrelstry a 30-06 for this proplem
Sgt.Waffles says: Jun 21, 2008. 1:18 PM
A mini bat that you get at the ballpark works well too. One crack between the eyes makes them go night night.
recyclebin (author) says: Jun 23, 2008. 6:14 AM
all you need is a good 2" thick sitck
OfficerKarl says: Jul 8, 2008. 7:49 AM
I would much rather make a punji stick trap because it would probably kill the animal quicker.
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OfficerKarl says: Mar 1, 2009. 6:37 PM
If you actually did make a punji pit when you didn't need it anymore, you would just take it apart, besides, if you really do need to make one, there wouldn't be any people nearby...
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OfficerKarl says: Mar 2, 2009. 1:46 PM
did you not see how all my arguments rely on this being a survival situation?
huntandfish says: Mar 20, 2009. 9:14 PM
would 50 lb test nylon do the trick
recyclebin (author) says: Apr 4, 2009. 6:47 PM
i guess, the size of the snare wire should fit of the size of the gane
brian250 says: Feb 22, 2009. 3:55 AM
Allways attach a springer to a snare.that way you dont have to hope the target doesnt step out of the snare,once it steps in-whalla
15zhangfra says: Dec 24, 2008. 4:57 PM
wat does " (removed by comunity request)" mean. anyways, awesome
recyclebin (author) says: Dec 25, 2008. 6:24 AM
it just means someone said something inappropriate and the comment is "flagged" and eventually removed by someone that works for instructables
15zhangfra says: Dec 25, 2008. 1:46 PM
thanx
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americas_HERO2393 says: Jun 27, 2008. 10:53 AM
don't look at this stuff just to say what we do is bad thats what we do and have no control over it. so get it through your head that you won't change our minds
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Aklash, The hunchback says: Sep 20, 2008. 1:20 PM
what happened to the "be nice" policy?
OfficerKarl says: Jul 8, 2008. 7:44 AM
Nobody is doing this just for fun. If you were lost in the wilderness without food you would have to do the same thing. It's you or the rabbit...
A good name says: Jul 12, 2008. 8:12 AM
Well you're right about that... But I think in that case it would be easier to just find berries... I wouldn't kill an animal anyways... Even if I did eat meat, I would be too squeamish
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SG1Oniell says: Oct 23, 2008. 1:06 PM
just make the kill quick and painless, I find that a quick break of the neck to snakes works, or stabb the soft spot at the base of the skull, once you do that, the brainstem is severed so they didn't feel a thing, unfortunately, it may be efficent, but it is messy as hell.
PKTraceur says: Feb 10, 2009. 5:00 AM
LoL, you're so right, but I know that would sound unbeleiveably violent to anyone else... poor those peoples...
OfficerKarl says: Feb 11, 2009. 2:41 PM
I just want to comment now: I first commented on this topic this summer and since that time things have changed. I'm now a vegetarian, and even I would still eat an animal to survive. I think it's only important in that situation that a human being survives over a few small animals, though animals nonetheless.
OfficerKarl says: Jul 12, 2008. 11:27 AM
Berries are harder to find than you think. Have you ever been so far out in the woods that you'd have to find berries? Not only do you have to find them you have to determine wether or not they are safe to eat, and frankly for the sake of your life, it's much easier to kill and eat a rabbit.
ve2vfd says: Jun 21, 2008. 11:53 AM
If you are a vegan and never eat or wear any animal products, I highly respect your opinion and choice. If not, you're a hypocrite and just let other do the killing for you...
OfficerKarl says: Jul 8, 2008. 7:45 AM
Why is somebody a hypocrite if they're not a vegan?
A good name says: Jul 12, 2008. 8:12 AM
No he's talking to me.
OfficerKarl says: Jul 12, 2008. 11:23 AM
That makes more sense
A good name says: Jun 28, 2008. 1:16 AM
Well I'm not sure about my shoes but I try to avoid animal products... I'm a vegetarian not a vegan, I'll eat eggs and milk, no fish though. It's completely immoral to kill.
OfficerKarl says: Feb 11, 2009. 3:00 PM
I'm a vegetarian too, and I'm just curious as to why you became a vegetarian and still are. Could you tell me? I did it for many reasons, mostly because:
1. Killing is immoral. We don't kill humans, why should we kill animals?
2. The meat industry is the number one cause of global warming. Even if you meat-eaters don't care that your eating another living creature, you're still killing the earth.
3. I'm helping end world hunger. The ratio of food fed to cows and the amount of meat produced is 7:1. That means that if every family in America replaced 4 oz of beef with 4 oz of tofu, one meal of every week, there would be 10 gallons of fresh drinking water for every person on this planet.
4. It's healthier. While many people with "standard" diets may be obese and have various health issues, only 7% of vegetarians are obese.
5. It's not that hard. Despite what people may think, based on the rewards and consequences, it's not much harder to live a guilt-free life.
6. It's much cooler. There are many celebrities and famous people that are vegetarian and even vegan. If you want the list go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vegetarians
7. It's different. 'nuff said...
jellybean10122 says: Oct 3, 2009. 10:57 AM
I totally respect your choice, I couldn't last a second (cowardly me) as a veggie, but i'm happy some people had the will to go on with it. I like the idea of saving the planet and whatnot, so I hope you stay veggie forever man.
OfficerKarl says: Oct 3, 2009. 7:47 PM
Making a change of lifestyle for any reason can always be hard, but like all changes it may take small steps and gradual change. Even if you don't go completely veggie, just cutting back on meat is a relatively simple change to make, and it's also the first step in completely dropping meat.
Thelonelysandwitch says: Mar 22, 2009. 1:55 PM
Well, If you didn't hunt the animals, then there would be too many around the world. There is about 1 chicken to 1 human in the world, if we didn't hunt them, then there would be billions more, and more earth crowding.
OfficerKarl says: Oct 3, 2009. 7:41 PM
That's not necessarily true. If we didn't hunt them all the animals kept as livestock now would be living in the wild where they would find natural predators. Besides, as long as humans have a choice (which should be a while) many people will want to eat meat, so there will most likely always be animals kept as livestock.
A good name says: Feb 11, 2009. 7:24 PM
1: Yep. 2: No, that would be the auto industry. However if you factor everything in (IE, the cost of trucking the cows, etc, etc) then eventually, you'd end up with a similar margin. Although it is still a big polluter. 3: Didn't know that... 4: I'm actually pretty unhealthy for all the grains I eat. My problem is that I just eat too much to be honest :| 5: I don't know, I've been a "veggie" since I was 3. 6: :| Okay no comment. 7: Woooo :D Anti-conformity.
rocketkid says: Feb 7, 2009. 5:53 PM
holy crud dude! if we didnt kill stuff to eat we'd never have even gotten to be cavemen. have you noticed, that alot of the really big, majestic, more popular animals, kill things to eat? if you are seriously that hard headed go try to learn how to photosynthesize and tell me how that works out.
OfficerKarl says: Feb 11, 2009. 2:47 PM
I don't want to be rude but you really need to get some facts straight before you judge or even argue your disagreement with someone. If you really want me to I can give you close to twenty reasons (with evidence) why you shouldn't eat meat. And yes, cavemen did eat meat, but they had to eat it to survive. We don't, and if you hadn't noticed it's because we're a bit more technological than cavemen. Plus using cavemen as a source of evidence for arguing isn't reliable. If you have evidence from 1982 and evidence from 2006, which are you going to trust more? And remember if you really want me to, I can give you those "pro-vegetarian" arguments. Just tell me if you want them.
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OfficerKarl says: Feb 28, 2009. 11:21 AM
I'll answer your question with a question: What is so wrong about people killing people?
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OfficerKarl says: Feb 28, 2009. 5:14 PM
I'm not even going to argue with you about morality here. I think I would drive myself insane trying to explain it to someone as narrow-minded about this topic as you. Do you seriously think that an animal's life is inferior to your's? What makes you (an animal) different from the animals you eat? You're both mammals (this doesn't include fish), you both have well-developed nervous systems so you can both feel pain, and you can both express that pain (yes, pigs and cows do scream in pain when they are being scalded alive to get rid of the fur on their bodies). The only reason it is legal to kill animals is because, as a species, humans have hunted for thousands of years, and when this first started happening eating meat was necessary for survival, but people just keep eating meat even though they don't have to, so it has become the norm. You can't base all of the things you do off of society. In the 1700's through the early 1800's, slavery was the societal norm. Do you think we should still have slavery because, certain views may not be "adopted by the majority" of people?
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A good name says: Mar 1, 2009. 8:41 PM
You just took two completely different topics and merged them... You evidently have no idea what you're talking about and are just another one of the narrow-minded sheep that are easily prodded by society.

Even YOU are admitting that you think it's okay to eat meat because society says it's okay.

Hence, Ironchopstix = Sheep
jellybean10122 says: Oct 3, 2009. 10:59 AM
right on. I'd try being a veggie, but I don't think my parents would take it seriously.
OfficerKarl says: Mar 2, 2009. 1:42 PM
yay!
A good name says: Feb 8, 2009. 6:39 PM
But no, just stop now. I don't want to spam this person's instructable any longer. People have, and will likely continue to kill for a long, long time. I have no issue with that, since it's an issue I can't fight.
OfficerKarl says: Feb 11, 2009. 3:03 PM
I think that if you are a vegetarian you should have a reason and wouldn't just do nothing. If you really do think it's immoral to kill then you would try to stop it. If it was ok for people to be killed at a high rate, wouldn't you try to stop it as well?
A good name says: Feb 11, 2009. 7:20 PM
No. No I would not. In order to do that, I would have to kill, or set off bombs. I am a Christian. Call me bloody insane (I realize how stupid this sounds, just to tell you) but I refuse to kill, or to damage my "neighbour's" property. Unfortunately, I do not want to risk our God being an unforgiving one.
OfficerKarl says: Feb 12, 2009. 2:03 PM
You really should go to Peta2's website. You can get a whole bunch of info about organizing (peaceful) protests. It seems like you're making this whole "save the animals" thing harder than it needs to be... I know that as soon as I get a chance and some people to help, I'm gonna do a protest.
A good name says: Feb 12, 2009. 3:29 PM
Isn't PETA that crazy animal association that pours blood on people with fur coats? But I don't protest. It's mainly because I don't live in a huge area and no one around here is a veggie I don't think...
OfficerKarl says: Feb 13, 2009. 5:17 AM
I live in a republican state that generates a lot of income from beef farming, and I'm a democratic vegetarian... Where you live isn't really a problem unless you live somewhere like western Kansas...
A good name says: Feb 13, 2009. 2:08 PM
Yeah, however, there's no one here in my area that's a vegan... or at least no one that's doing it for ethical reasons. Most people around here do it for religion if at all. (Also on the note of PETA, I have confirmed they are the crazy-dogkilling clan... Sorry, but I refuse to support people like them)
OfficerKarl says: Feb 13, 2009. 5:15 AM
Peta2 is actually the area of Peta targeted at teens, and I just think it's more user friendly than the PETA website. You can also get free stuff : )
A good name says: Feb 13, 2009. 2:04 PM
PETA is the crazy organization then?
OfficerKarl says: Feb 13, 2009. 8:15 PM
Seriously? Where are you getting your information? Now I think you're just assuming things. Please don't judge or say things about them until you've at least been to their website and seen what they're about. That's just bad policy.
A good name says: Feb 13, 2009. 10:30 PM
My friend told me, websites have told me. They're not ran by extremists, but the group is filled with crackpots in my opinion.
OfficerKarl says: Feb 14, 2009. 4:24 PM
No offense, but you would suck at debating. You can't base things entirely on your opinion. You need evidence.
A good name says: Feb 14, 2009. 8:35 PM
Having three sites cite something, (no, not wikipedia) a book, and a friend, I'm convinced it's evidence, now like I said, stop posting on here.
OfficerKarl says: Feb 15, 2009. 3:40 PM
I'm sorry if I have angered you, Its not intentional, but why do you get mad at posting on this guy's instructable. If it was me I would be glad that people are posting on it. That means that more people will find it and he'll get more views. Simple advertising scheme...
A good name says: Feb 15, 2009. 5:27 PM
I'm not mad, but I don't think that we should be spamming him. Remember, this goes right to his email inbox.
OfficerKarl says: Feb 15, 2009. 7:06 PM
I just think it's a matter of opinion... The last few days the majority of my email was instructables and I kind of enjoyed it :)
battlewagon says: Jan 12, 2009. 8:38 PM
Go to a mirror. Smile. Note the large pointy teeth to the left and right of your incisors.

These teeth are called Canine teeth...I'll let you think about that one for a minute.

I've never hunted, I avoid stepping on ants and carry spiders outside instead of killing them.

I also eat meat. I'm an omnivore, and the convolutions and compromises I would have to go through in order to eliminate meat and animal products from my diet are onerous and unnecessary. The reason I have never hunted because I never *had* to, but growing up poor in the backwoods with a father who used his rifle to put much needed food on the table made the whole idea of vegetarianism seem like well intentioned drivel to me. You must kill to live, and while I personally think that americans eat far to much meat, I don't kid myself by saying that eating a cow is any more murder than decimating the cabbage patch.

Believe me, if it ever came down to a survival situation, you'd kill poor Thumper with your bare hands if you could, hunger has it's own realities, not that you seem to be a big fan of reality. And if you somehow harnessed your innate human sentience to starve yourself to death instead of eating poor little Thumper all it would prove is that intelligence may not have completely proven its worth as a survival trait in the strictest Darwinian sense.

Good tutorial by the way, but wire would be more humane if you had it, the last thing you want is for the animal you snare to survive and suffer from injuries from a poorly laid snare.
OfficerKarl says: Feb 11, 2009. 3:13 PM
Dude, I'm sorry but there are so many things wrong with this post, as intelligent as it may be (using big words doesn't actually make you any less wrong) 1. We may have canines but they are derived from when our ancestors did eat meat and had to in order to survive. Did you know that gorillas have canines but rarely eat meat, if they ever do? 2. I'm not sure what family environment you grew up in but if your father hunted to put food on your table, then that's the way it was, but if you have the time, and apparent intelligence that you show by posting the previous comment, then you can go vegetarian. Real quick, Have you ever tried going vegetarian? If no: Don't say you can't if you haven't. It makes you sound ignorant. if yes: At least you tried, but that doesn't mean it can't be done. It's possible that you just need to make some minor changes. 3. I'm sure you're glad to hear this. I'm not just here to disagree with you. I too would kill an animal if it was a survival situation, and I'm a vegetarian. And I agree the death should be as quick as possible. I just know that survival situations come along very rarely and I shouldn't live my life waiting for one to come along.
PKTraceur says: Feb 10, 2009. 5:04 AM
Hmm... there is only one problem with that statement, (I'm a regular human, omnivore...) You gave a childhood character a place in death. I Know that Thumper is the generalized name for a rabbit, but dude, come on, no one wants to hear a childhood animated character die. It's just weird. -RoAr
recyclebin (author) says: Jun 29, 2008. 11:26 AM
eggs are undeveloped baby birds
A good name says: Jun 29, 2008. 2:17 PM
Technically if they're taken before anything starts then they'd only BECOME birds... it's not really killing them since they never lived in the first place. I don't eat eggs too much anyways for that very reason but sometimes I will... Milk isn't too bad though.
OfficerKarl says: Jul 8, 2008. 7:46 AM
Thats like saying that abbortion isn't killing a baby because it wasn't born so it hadn't lived yet.
Dr. Explosion says: Jul 20, 2008. 8:40 PM
The eggs people eat are not fertilized yet. They aren't unborn birds, they are just the potential to become birds. The chicken is just getting rid of it anyway, like having a period. Abortion is the killing of an already fertilized egg or fetus that WILL be a baby. I do respect your beliefs on eggs though.
A good name says: Jul 12, 2008. 8:13 AM
It is killing the baby. In the egg though, it doesn't develope, just has the potential to. If you get the egg before it develops AT ALL then it's fine since there was nothing there. I see what you're saying, and that's why I don't eat them alot.
OfficerKarl says: Feb 11, 2009. 3:21 PM
I apologize for all of the time I spent arguing with you, but there are some facts you have wrong. Dr. Explosion is right. Laying an egg is like the hen having a period. It just goes to waste. Unless, that is, a rooster fertilizes the egg, but in factory farms, there are no roosters. With that, the only reason you should avoid most eggs and egg products is because the way hens are treated.
A good name says: Feb 11, 2009. 7:21 PM
Yeah I know. Since I made that post, I now eat eggs, but there's just something in the back of my head that makes me a little uncomfortable with eating eggs...
OfficerKarl says: Feb 12, 2009. 2:01 PM
I don't like eating eggs too much myself, but I don't think I'll be able to go vegan until I get a place of my own... My ultimate plan though, is to find a place where chickens are raised humanely and get eggs there.
A good name says: Feb 12, 2009. 3:30 PM
Yeah, I'm going to build a farm when I grow up and keep chickens for eggs... I just worry that I might have to snap one of their necks for the bird flu getting them... Anyways, this convo is over IMO. If you want to talk more about the issue, just message me.
OfficerKarl says: Feb 13, 2009. 5:12 AM
At least we agree now
OfficerKarl says: Jul 12, 2008. 11:30 AM
This may sound bad from different point of view, but killing animals is just a way of life. Why can wolves kill rabbits, but it's wrong for a human to kill a cow (which are bred to be killed)? The only reason we think it's wrong is because we have the capability to think at that high of a level. If you want a real problem then start hating pollution. It's worse for animals because they're not even being killed to survive.
A good name says: Jul 12, 2008. 12:28 PM
Well, we (theoretically, I'm a christian though) developed from monkeys. Monkeys did not ever eat meat. Therefore, it's okay for the wolves, but it still bugs me. If I were given a gun and someone said "There, go shoot that rabbit" And I saw a wolf about to attack it, I'd likely shoot the wolf instead and let the rabbit get away.
blakdragon19 says: Aug 2, 2008. 3:53 PM
many types of monkeys eat meat, most importantly chimps.
OfficerKarl says: Jul 13, 2008. 11:30 AM
That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. The only valid reason someone would tell you to shoot a rabbit is for a survival situation, and you're saying you would kill a wolf that was about to kill a rabbit that you could eat to survive, and then not even eat the wolf! No offense, but that is purely idiotic. btw, monkeys did eat meat. Meat is another word for animals as food, and termites are animals. Monkeys eat termites.
A good name says: Jul 13, 2008. 1:37 PM
1: Please, stop being so obnoxious. 2: Get some morals, and don't feed me that "survival of the fittest" Bullshit 3: Termites aren't animals, they're insects (don't try to get deeper into that) 4: Good day.
ztevo says: Feb 21, 2009. 2:46 PM
Apes eat other primates and often kill them just for fun, gorillas will rip the skin off of a living gorilla to watch it suffer just for giggles,

Adult dolphins kill seals and baby dolphins just for fun life is cruel.

Chimps make spears to hunt other primates with, Apes are not vegetarians. Would you argue that monkeys are not animals?
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070222-chimp-video.html
(chimps hunting monkeys with spears)

Sorry to step in here and I really could care less eat you eat unless you are pregnant, don't have a sick malnourished baby do to your religious beliefs. As for the veggy thing do you have any idea how many animals have to be killed to grow and harvest an acre of any vegetables?

As for the cool people that are doing it, name one Olympic or professional level athlete that is a vegetarian (surfers don't count), they do not exist.

For the egg people , a vegan one explained to me that eating a chicken egg was the equivalent to sucking on a bloody tampon, but then again the vegan people are OK with eating a human afterbirth (placenta?) and consider it to be the only form of meat ok to eat.

Eat what you like and be happy, don't criticize others for what they choose to eat and don't be sucked into a cult. Never send money to an organization that manipulates your emotions to get a financial response from you. ie if an organization is posting disturbing images to try to get you to open your wallet they are manipulating you by getting you to react with your primitive emotional brain instead of you rational human brain, peta is just as guilty as the anti abortion groups in using nasty images to make lots of money while never accomplishing anything except taking your money.

Do you really thin it will become illegal to eat meat? then do not send these people your money. Just eat what you like.
A good name says: Feb 21, 2009. 7:14 PM
"As for the veggy thing do you have any idea how many animals have to be killed to grow and harvest an acre of vegetables?" What? You're joking right? I planted roughly a quarter of an acre of veggies in my backyard, without an animal casualty. Anti-abortion groups don't take your money. Anti-abortion groups are normally organizations that use the money to hold rallies and stuff and keep websites up. The egg thing you're pointing out is horseshit. It isn't licking a bloody tampon, it's laying an egg which is unfertilized. Many animals lay eggs. I'm quite sorry to say but you sir are just another one of the many sheep I interact with throughout my life, who believe that God made animals on four legs to be eaten by animals with two legs, who believe oil is never going to run out, and who believe whatever the government tells you.
ztevo says: May 1, 2009. 4:15 PM
"The egg thing you're pointing out is horseshit. It isn't licking a bloody tampon, it's laying an egg which is unfertilized. Many animals lay eggs." Come 7th grade in your health class you will learn that a period is an unfertilized egg being disposed of . If you are curious about that kind of stuff now you could ask your mom or a close relative to explain it to you.
A good name says: May 10, 2009. 10:22 AM
I'm in the eighth grade, nice try making yourself seem superior though.
ztevo says: May 1, 2009. 3:29 PM
"What? You're joking right? I planted roughly a quarter of an acre of veggies in my backyard, without an animal casualty." Your rotary tiller, shovel or garden fork killed hundreds if not thousands of beatles, worms and larvae, what about the mice, moles and other small animals? their homes you destroyed, what about the snails, and slugs, YOU KILLED them, what about the ants, the moths and butterfly cocoons you cut to peaces. There are more animals below the surface then above it. "Anti-abortion groups don't take your money. Anti-abortion groups are normally organizations that use the money to hold rallies and stuff and keep websites up." If activists groups don't take your money were do they get it from? Are they printing the money in a back room? Do you really think that all the lawyers and activists both pro and anti any cause are working for free. Why do all of their websites have a "make a donation button" if they do not take your money. To find the truth follow the money.
A good name says: May 10, 2009. 10:25 AM
Tiller? You've got to be joking. I have a raised bed. It was previously lawn. Moles do not live under my lawn. Ha, I cut ants and moths to pieces? Yeah, I got out a knife and made sure they were dead. As for butterfly. >< Sigh. That was the point I made about the abortion groups. They use the money for things. They don't steal it for themselves. Shut the hell up and get the hell out, because you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
ztevo says: May 26, 2009. 4:52 PM
Quarter of an Acre of raised beds? that would be 10,890 square feet of garden space, at best you can buy top soil and compost for $1 per cubic foot it usually cost more than double that, you would have needed to purchase at least 5000 cubic feet to fill a quarter acre of raided beds. sure you have a 10,000.square raised bed, sure you do, so did your dad give you $5000 to buy dirt with or did you pay for it your self mowing lawns?
OfficerKarl says: Feb 21, 2009. 8:27 PM
That was a bit abrupt, but I completely agree
A good name says: Feb 21, 2009. 10:56 PM
:D
OfficerKarl says: Feb 22, 2009. 3:23 PM
I did write probably over 200 lines (including sources) of arguments that covered everyone of his points, and how he's wrong... but it wouldn't post it...
A good name says: Feb 22, 2009. 5:17 PM
Hmmm... it doesn't matter, being wrong speaks for itself, now Karl, can we PLEASE, take this into private chat or something?
OfficerKarl says: Feb 21, 2009. 7:04 PM
Sorry for the delay. It says there's Invalid Formatting in the Comment, so it won't let me post it...
OfficerKarl says: Feb 21, 2009. 3:26 PM
please, no one say anything to this guy. I want to be the first to reply to this...
Aklash, The hunchback says: Sep 18, 2008. 3:25 PM
1. Please stop being so obnoxious. 2. I respect that some people don't eat meat for a variety of reasons so I would like it if you would offer the same courtesy to people who do eat meat and disagree with you. 3. Why do you discount termites right of the bat? Is there any reason that the life of a termite is any less valid than yours? All things die sooner or later so why do you insist that it is wrong to kill?
OfficerKarl says: Sep 18, 2008. 5:06 PM
Plus, if any of you hadn't noticed, animals have been killing other animals for millions of years.
OfficerKarl says: Feb 11, 2009. 3:22 PM
Man this was the dumbest comment I have ever made...
DELETED_ironchopstix says: Mar 1, 2009. 4:49 PM
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OfficerKarl says: Mar 1, 2009. 6:39 PM
Of mine?
blakdragon19 says: Aug 2, 2008. 3:55 PM
just because you wouldn't eat it doesn't make it not an animal. besides. survival of the fittest means the deaths of thousands of animals every day as prey. you are not mourning them. you are afraid of death, so you are trying to rationalize it by saying it is cruel to kill another animal.
OfficerKarl says: Aug 3, 2008. 7:03 PM
Thanks for adding a rational comment to this argument. I was tired of responding to bullshit. Maybe he stopped arguing because he knew I was right...
OfficerKarl says: Jul 13, 2008. 6:15 PM
I'm only going to say this one thing because I feel it would be unfair to have an intellectual stand-off with someone who thinks that inscts aren't animals! Look it up on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal
Hmm... Waddaya know... The third animal in the picture is an insect DIPSHIT! I really didn't want an online argument to go that far, but you asked for it.
A good name says: Jul 13, 2008. 10:12 PM
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Aklash, The hunchback says: Sep 18, 2008. 3:27 PM
No offense but that has to be the lamest comment I've ever heard.
OfficerKarl says: Sep 18, 2008. 5:04 PM
Thank You! I hate it when people are stuck-up like that! >:(
Aklash, The hunchback says: Sep 20, 2008. 1:16 PM
no problem. I do too.
Sgt.Waffles says: Jun 21, 2008. 1:19 PM
A cookie to you, my good sir.
A good name says: Jun 28, 2008. 1:18 AM
why not a waffle instead?
A good name says: Jun 28, 2008. 1:19 AM
Ironically I've always wanted to try fishing as a sport... I would too if you could release them without hurting them.
Aklash, The hunchback says: Sep 18, 2008. 3:28 PM
Use a net.
OfficerKarl says: Jul 8, 2008. 7:42 AM
You can release fish without hurting them. You just have to know what you're doing.
rofus says: Aug 14, 2008. 12:57 AM
i think its a good trap.i watch man vs wild and survivor man and thats the same stuff they do.ill put some really good traps up on this site because i'm a new member
pyro13 says: Jun 20, 2008. 10:35 PM
I would recommend getting some snaring wire or something an animal couldn't chew through
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