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*****EDIT 20110115@0930PST*****
FOUND BUGS

  • **When clicking on a forum topic, the default sort is "active" when clicking prev/next the link changes the sort to "newest" changing the order of comments.
  • **When a comment thread is featured, the order of the posts change from being ordered by threads, to ordered chronologically (see photos in comments for details)
  • **When you comment, there's an inability to reply to the comment you just left. (not fixed-feature)
  • **When responding to a lot of comments without replying, comments get double posted (occasionally)
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## = has been passed along to the dev team to look into and fix
** = Fixed/Done
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(more awesome bug photos)

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Kiteman (author)2011-01-11

Plenty of threads and sub-threads, folks, and add pictures as well, please!

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kelseymh (author)2011-01-11

The commenting bugs I know about are


  • disappearances, where a comment get stuck in the filters and never released;
  • next/prev discrepancies;
  • Deep-thread collisions with the sidebar.

The latter two will not show up until there are more than one page's worth of comments posted. This is my contribution to starting the population.

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kelseymh (author)Kiteman2011-01-11

Well, yeah; some people tell me I'm pretty trying, too...

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caitlinsdad (author)kelseymh2011-01-11

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

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Kiteman (author)Kiteman2011-01-11

...to replicate...

(Oh, a whole car-park just floated past on the news - glad I'm not in Oz)

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Kiteman (author)Kiteman2011-01-11
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Lithium Rain (author)2011-01-11

(Warning, Star Trek nonsense ahead)

So, TNG or Voyager?

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Chirpoff (author)Lithium Rain2011-06-12

<3 Star Trek! I think my fav is ST:Ent.

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Kiteman (author)Lithium Rain2011-01-11

Why not the original series?

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Lithium Rain (author)Kiteman2011-01-11

I find it too...campy/cheesy; it's distracting and I can't manage to suspend reality, and laughing at it gets old fast. I'm too spoiled to modern CGI and special effects, I guess...

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Kiteman (author)Lithium Rain2011-01-12

You'll be no good with old DR Who then.

The giant rats in Talons of Weng-Chiang, plus the little Peking Homunculus, completely freaked out a nine-year-old Kite - I genuinely watched it from behind the sofa.



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Lithium Rain (author)Kiteman2011-01-12

Wait...what the sam hill is a Peking Homunculus? Part of the brain structure of a Chinese individual?

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Kiteman (author)Lithium Rain2011-01-12

It was a little robot with a pig brain instead of a computer, which almost started WW6

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kelseymh (author)Kiteman2011-01-12

And with this reply, we should now have NEXT/PREV buttons available to demonstrate the confusion :-)

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Kiteman (author)kelseymh2011-01-13
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kelseymh (author)Kiteman2011-01-13

See my top-level post for a detailed description, and a possible explanation. I normally view forum topics sorted by active, but the next button apparently has "sort=NEWEST" hardcoded. With two different sorts, the indexing of comments is naturally different, leading to the observed behaviour.

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Lithium Rain (author)Kiteman2011-01-12

Sadly, I suspect that's true...

xD Behind the couch, I love it.

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Kiteman (author)Lithium Rain2011-01-12

What similar thing did the US have? Twilight Zone?

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Lithium Rain (author)Kiteman2011-01-12

You know, I don't know (before my time!). I would guess Twilight Zone, the original Star Trek, or...hm. I know I've heard of creepy shows from 30 years ago, but I'd have to think what they would have been...assorted "scary monsters, yo" type shows is the closest I can come atm.

>shrug<

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Lithium Rain (author)Kiteman2011-01-11
...and 4th bug?

The full text of my comment read (with words replacing the >'s so they don't get converted:


(Uh...whoops. Didn't mean to make the whole stinkin' thing (anglebracket)strong(anglebracket) - sorry.)




Shouldn't the dash have been bolded, along with "sorry.)"?

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kelseymh (author)Lithium Rain2011-01-11

You need to close markup tags as well as open them, thus:

<strong>this text is bold</strong>

produces

this text is bold

(BTW, I got the literal angle brackets by using HTML entities -- ampersand lt semicolon and ampersand gt semicolon.)

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Lithium Rain (author)kelseymh2011-01-11

Well, duh. :P I just hit "Post" too soon by accident.

The weird thing, though, is that it seems to have bolded everything after it anyway - but it didn't bold the dash, which was after it.

(Ah, thanks - I couldn't remember how to get them)

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(Here's another inadvertent example of Bug no. 3)

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nutsandbolts_64 (author)2011-01-15

Uh, I know it's off topic, but I can't post anything BUT comments here. Yes, I am overemphasizing because I can't post a question or forum topic (and the like) so I have no other choice but to post a comment somewhere on the bugs section.

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Kiteman (author)nutsandbolts_642011-01-15

I'll pass this on for you.

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Kiteman (author)2011-01-15

So...

Is this topic now redundant?

Or is it lying on the slab, waiting for the Dev Team to poke at its innards?

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StumpChunkman (author)Kiteman2011-01-15

I like to think it's lying in wait, in case we should ever need it again.

There's also the issue of the occasional double post, which would be nice to find the cause of (occasional sucks).

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Kiteman (author)StumpChunkman2011-01-15

Oh, it's...

...a zombie topic!

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ChrysN (author)2011-01-14

I found an interesting effect of this bug. This morning when I checked out my You page it said that There have been 1548 comments on your instructables, forum topics, and/or your Orangeboard. Comment 1548 was made on my forum topic. https://www.instructables.com/community/Instructables-Drawing-Contest-with-Grand-Prize-of-/.
When I replied to this comment and went back to my You page it said that I had 1547 comments and the one that I had replied to has disappeared.  Now I have an orphaned reply on the forum.

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ChrysN (author)ChrysN2011-01-14

It's okay now the comment came back!

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StumpChunkman (author)ChrysN2011-01-14

Well that's good, we don't want comments to go missing.

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ostomesto (author)2011-01-14

yea i know about the unablity to post topics bug. I had to find the most popular topic in here and comment since I couldn't post a new one. and this was the most popular. but when ever i try to preview a new topic it wont let me. I have lost so much typing trying to get it to work. I was trying to spark popularity of my question I asked that INCLUDES A FREE PATCH TO THE PERSON WITH BEST IDEA. so click on my profile and go to questions and you will see it. i need people to know wbout it thats why i included the free patch.

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StumpChunkman (author)ostomesto2011-01-14

So, do you actually have a problem you need help with, or did you just want to promote your question?

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kelseymh (author)2011-01-11

FIRST BUG



Take a look at the featured comment thread which starts with my initial comment. Caitlinsdads' reply, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" (Jan 11, 2011. 2:21 PM) was a direct response to my comment at 2:12 pm.

The order of comments has been scrambled by the sticky tag. Specifically, the entire subthread is now ordered strictly chronologically, rather than threadwise.

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StumpChunkman (author)kelseymh2011-01-13

I'm not sure I completely understand this bug....I'm going to try to unfeature and refeature and take screenshots of both. Hopefully that'll help.

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kelseymh (author)StumpChunkman2011-01-13

If you do that, make *sure* you do a hard reload each time. Changing the flag does not cause the page to be reloaded.

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StumpChunkman (author)kelseymh2011-01-13

got it...give me a minute to stitch the photo's together.

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Both images so the same comment thread. One shows the comment thread featured, the other doesn't. I'll let you figure out which is which. (it shouldn't be too hard)

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kelseymh (author)StumpChunkman2011-01-13

Perfect! And you can see exactly what happens. When the top-level comment gets stickied, my reply, made at 2:12 pm percolates upward from being below the entire Kiteman thread, to being adjacent to Kiteman's own 2:12 pm reply.

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In case you want to see those images full size...

Featured
Not Featured

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kelseymh (author)2011-01-13

The Next/Prev Bug is Alive!


With 107 comments in place, I confirm the next/prev bug is operating, and I think I've even figured it out (see the end of this post). I'm viewing this topic "sorted by active" (the default).

The last comment on the first page (1-100) is mine from 11 Jan at 5:50 pm (first image below).

On the same page, Matt's thread beginning "This is going to be totally Awesome!" appears about halfway down the page (second image below).

But then, following the next >> link shows Matt's thread again, this time claiming it's comment #101 (third image below).

And I think I see why! Notice in that third image, the "sort by:" flag has changed to newest (instead of active). The URL for the next >> button has "sort=NEWEST" hardwired in. I believe that the code should be set up to pass the user's same sorting request into the next and previous buttons as is currently displayed.

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StumpChunkman (author)kelseymh2011-01-13

I tried to add a list in the topic, let me know if there's anything you'd change in what I wrote, or anything I missed. (I steps with parenthesis are duplicatable but not purposefully)

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StumpChunkman (author)kelseymh2011-01-13

Grrr...can't reply to myself. So, yeah, the next/prev buttons if you look at the html default to newest. If you change newest to active on page 2, you'll see the continuation of the threads (because they're no other easy way to accomplish this feat). One thing that was brought up, is why there's even a sorting option for comments in the forum. Is there anyone who likes the sort option for any reason in forum topics?

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