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BBC Four did an Instructable: How to make a camera obscura Answered

I wonder if they know that they did?

For some reason the video-embed says the video is no longer available. It is, I just watched it.

The link is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcv4CxQ1I-A

But, if that doesn't work either:

An Italian photographer takes over a room in a Venetian palace. They cover all the windows in opaque black plastic sheets. They wait a moment to let their eyes get used to the dark, then cut a hole in the plastic, about 3 inches square.

An image of the view outside appears "magically" on the wall opposite - upside down, but perfect in every colourful detail.

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zachninme (author)2007-10-22
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What?? I only looked at it half an hour ago!

(Furtles about)

Try this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcv4CxQ1I-A

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chooseausername (author)Kiteman2007-10-23
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gmoon (author)chooseausername2007-10-23

This one works, for now (but I doubt for long.)

Very cool stuff! But does anyone besides me see the irony: (quote from show)

"They've been invited to build a camera obsura at a music festival on top of Mount Fuji, giving festival goers sweeping views of Tokyo."

Why climb Mount Fuji, just to experience it second-hand via technology? (cool archaic tech or not...)

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Goodhart (author)gmoon2007-10-23
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gmoon (author)Goodhart2007-10-23

hehe. Well, I can go to Yosemite Valley, and walk around with my head in a bucket of water...but I don't think it would enhance the experience.

This is just my reaction to the the 'tech umbilical cord' I see many people attached to these days--if they're outdoors, they're generally generally listening to an iPod or talking on the cell...anything but interacting with the environment. I don't really care if people do it, of course.

After a websearch, I don't think the Mt. Fuji festival is actually held on Fuji, anyway. I'm thinking the BBC might have that part wrong (although I can't say for sure....)

(It's also a climber's POV: I'm equally disdainful of people who drive up Mt Washington or Pikes Peak--even though the vast majority who summit do so in cars...)

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Goodhart (author)gmoon2007-10-23

This is just my reaction to the the 'tech umbilical cord' I see many people attached to these days--if they're outdoors, they're generally generally listening to an iPod or talking on the cell...anything but interacting with the environment. I don't really care if people do it, of course.

Oh I completely understand...I guess my comment was more along the lines of:

A "hack" might be defined as a person that likes to understand things in many ways and forms, not "just" one way.

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gmoon (author)Goodhart2007-10-23

A "hack" might be defined as a person that likes to understand things in many ways and forms, not "just" one way.

I agree, this just pushes more than one of my own peculiar buttons...;-)

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Kiteman (author)gmoon2007-10-23

I can see the appeal in a camera obscura on Mt Fuji. I've been to a couple of large ones, and made one you fit your head in, and seeing the image inverted - but not on TV - makes you focus more. You have to consider each element individually to identify it.

Rather than looking at the panorama as a single entity, and going "wow", it really helps you grok the whole as a gestalt of the many.

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gmoon (author)Kiteman2007-10-23

In an 'everyday' sense, I agree. But I don't believe it's necessary (or even useful) to alter one's perceptions of an extraordinary event (like summiting a mountain), only an ordinary one. Reality (and human physiology) tend to alter one's perceptions pretty effectively without any other mechanisms...

It's a moot point anyway--there's no way they are holding a festival on top of Fuji--the BBC newsreader misspoke, surely. The logistics of getting thousands of people up and down from the summit would be a nightmare...just the massive amounts of poop alone boggle the mind...

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Goodhart (author)gmoon2007-10-23

But I don't believe it's necessary (or even useful) to alter one's perceptions of an extraordinary event...

I acknowledge your point of view, and believe I understand it as best I can without my actually being you, but from my own perspective, odd as it is at times, I like to see most things from more then one "perspective" just to make sure I am not a blind man describing an elephant as being "like a snake", or a rope, or a tree trunk, or a wall.

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gmoon (author)Goodhart2007-10-23

Gaining 4 or 5 thousand feet of elevation in 10 hours will alter your perspective, trust me. Especially if you do it under your own power.

I strongly believe that some experiences stand very well on their own...

And grant me that you can change the experience, often for the worse, by altering the aesthetic. For example, visiting a pristine spot you remember, only to find a garbage dump. Or massive commercial development of a place where you would holiday as a child.

So some 'installations' would seriously ruin my experience, just by the fact they they are present (the above mentioned parking lot on the summit of Mt Washington is an example.) I'm not saying the camera obscura is a bad thing, but who's to stop someone from doing something else that's more destructive?

And there are real concrete, non-aesthetic impacts to consider, also (especially in an alpine environment.)

Bear with me, I tend not to be a purist, much...I should say I'm a purist in some, but very much NOT in others. I am arguing this as a specific case--in other circumstances, I wouldn't.

Incidentally, I'm not really disagreeing with you, just enjoying the discourse...

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Goodhart (author)gmoon2007-10-23

Tis ok, I have a odd way of looking that things sometimes, perspective-wise. I like the experience when I am not hurting from it LOL

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gmoon (author)Kiteman2007-10-23

Ya know, the only working link at the top wasn't the one you originally posted. It's a year or so old (but it was BBC and I was fooled.) Sorry about that...No, the camera wasn't on the summit, so my contributions to this discussions were rather...off the mark?

Interesting stuff, none the less. Thanks for these--didn't realize one of those guys was in the Pogues...

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Goodhart (author)gmoon2007-10-23

Ah yes, the ole "peculiar buttons" LOL *sorry*

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Weissensteinburg (author)Kiteman2007-10-22

that doesn't work either for me.

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Kiteman (author)Weissensteinburg2007-10-23

I've altered the OP slightly to make up for that.

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astrozombies138 (author)Kiteman2007-10-22

bbc is too fast for you. ha!

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