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Boot-to-DOS Answered

Hello everbody. I am working on a project (which you wil find out about in a few months) and I need to know how to boot a windows PC int MSDOS or DOS. I need to be able to run windows programs whil in dos. EXE programs, not self contained. Can someone please help me?

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11010010110 (author)2009-02-04

F8 safe mode with command prompt if you have compatibility issues with your msdos executables use dosbox or dosemu

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Chrizlax (author)2009-02-04

If you just want to create your own "bare minimum" version of windows, containing just the windows API, then nlite allows you make your own stripped down windows install disc, using a simple GUI wizard.

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fxsapa (author)2008-12-09

So what you mean is: you don't want anything of the Windows GUI in your way. e.g. Sidebar, Taskbar, Start Menu, Icons, Popups... Right ? So, why not use a full-screen application? Everything would be hidden, and then you can do whatever. I don't know what you are using, but there must be a way to do that, google it !

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gimmelotsarobots (author)fxsapa2008-12-15

No GUI, just running capability, as if it weren't there.

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Lithium Rain (author)fxsapa2008-12-09

No, no, no. DOS is an OS in its own right, albeit a primitive one. He wants the guts of DOS, not the looks.

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NachoMahma (author)2008-11-13

. Boot from floppy. You can find various flavors of MS-DOS on the Web.

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Chicken2209 (author)NachoMahma2008-11-13

floppies? your old but yeah when you start up, you can press something like delete or one of the function buttons to open up that one screen and change the start up order *key phrases may or may not be included*

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I don't want to boot from a disk, I want to just boot into DOS. I thought that was built in. Do you have to have a disk to boot into DOS?

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Well, maybe you could dual boot. Or just wipe Vista and install DOS. It'd be an improvement. :D

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. Windows XP is not built upon DOS, but instead uses the Windows NT kernel. If you're running Win 95, 98, or Me, you can boot to DOS, but not with XP or Vista. . There is a DOS mode that you can access (via F8 or F12, IIRC) but it's not the same as DOS.

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Lithium Rain (author)2008-12-09

Stuff and nonsense, DOS ran/runs .exe files just fine. Whaddaya think programs on floppies were? ;-)

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grantaccess (author)2008-11-23

I am almost certain that you will not be able to run any "windows" programs when you have "booted into DOS." There are a great number of reasons for this that others could explain in a more technically precise way. AFAIK all DOS versions are single thread operating systems without any of the windows libraries or APIs that all windows programs would require to run. You would need to hack these functions plus memory management etc... into DOS which would essentially just be rewriting a new OS with windows functions. The upside is you could name the new OS - I suggest something like "Super Gimmelotsarobots W1ND0W5 95ish" An alternative would be to boot into XP with a startup script to start a DOS prompt in full screen and run your windows programs. I think that as the apps run you would just be toggled back into windows-mode though. without more info I can't really suggest anything else. good luck

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What i need is to have the computer boot up into some kind of prompt, from which point, a microcotroller will enter the proper text commands to boot a game. I am making a game cabinet development center. I need as little Grafical User Interface as possible.

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Sounds like a cool project. I am not entirely sure what you mean by development center but it seems you want to surprise us when you are done so I won't ask too many questions. If you want to run games or apps designed for MS Windows then you will NEED to run windows at boot - DOS will not work. If you are looking at a retro DOS games console then you would probably want a later version of DOS where memory handling is a little easier. DOS memory handling was very restrictive. DOS won't just use all of the RAM available. In fact you will probably have more RAM storage in your machine than an average hard disk from back in the day.

If you want to run windows apps with the least overhead then I would suggest determining a few things first.

What specs will your machine have? If you will be using an older CPU and less than 512MB of RAM then Windows98 (Direct-X 9) might do the trick. If your specs are greater than that then I would suggest XP.

If your games and apps require XP then that is your OS. I would rarely suggest Vista unless it comes pre-installed (I'm not a total hater, just prefer XP in most cases.)

Whatever Windows flavor you choose you can use google to help determine what background programs/services can be stopped to run a trimmed down OS with just the functionality required for your purposes (to an extent - you probably can't remove the GUI functionality.)

At the end of the day it should be pretty easy to boot automatically into an account with few background apps or services. However you were going to have a micro controller enter commands to start a game, it would not be more difficult under windows. You would simply add a DOS prompt to the startup folder or use RUN from the start menu (shortcut=Win-R.)

hope this helps some - I can't really tell.

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Well, it was worth asking. And ya, I would never use Vista, ever. Never ever ever ever ever. I will most likely have a PC in there with mucho RAM and HDD space. I guess I'll just trim down windows XP by removing apps and getting rid of unneccesary software drivers. I don't like all that gunk you see in the bottom right of the screen.

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