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This is a Desktop computer package from a company called "Cube247" . I am really considering this deal.

( Intel Core 2 Duo processor, 2GB of fast memory, massive 500GB hard disk, DVD rewriter, huge 19” widescreen TFT panel and Microsoft Vista – all for £449!!

  • Microsoft Windows Vista Home
  • Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 Processor
  • 2048MB DDR II 667 Memory
  • 500GB SATA II Seagate Data Storage < ----------------------------Awsome!!!!!! Half a Terrabyte.
  • NEC 7200 Multi Format DVD/CD ReWriter
  • Intel 950 128MB GMA Graphics
  • 7.1 High Definition Surround Sound
  • Intel Core 2 Duo Motherboard
  • 19” Widescreen TFT 5MS Flat Panel Screen
  • Logitech Wireless Multimedia Keyboard
  • Logitech Wireless Optical Mouse
  • Logitech S220 2.1 Speaker System
  • 10/100 Ethernet LAN
  • 8x USB2 Ports

All for £449.00 .

Does it sound like a good deal ???

Also I have a few queries......:

  • The computer doesn't have dedicated graphics, it has intergrated. Will I be able to upgrade the desktop to be fitted in with a graphics card later on.
  • Also the the graphics are: Intel 950 128MB GMA Graphics. What kind of games will I be able to play on the desktop with this graphic spec....if any at all..... = S.
  • The OS this package comes with is " Vista Home Basic " , It only takes £20 more to upgrade the OS to " Vista Home Premium " do you think I should go for it . Does Premium Make a good difference?

Thank you Please help.

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ll.13 (author)2008-04-04

The graphics suck. =) sorry, but to be honest.

you will probably just be able to play Half-Life 2, + Episode1...

-Can you find anything with nVidia 6800, or 7300, 8400?

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Baron A (author)ll.132008-04-04

yeah it does. But it costs £69.999 just for nVidia 8600 Gt

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ll.13 (author)Baron A2008-04-04

Ye..ah, a 7300GT is a very good card, they should be around £30-40, or maybe a 7600. btw a lower end 8 serie card is not "faster" than a high-end 7 serie, there's a lot of over-lap. ;-)

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The Kid 0926 (author)ll.132009-12-05

 well i had a  7300gt ...... now its under my bed in a box.. i am using a 9400gt now but now i need evan beter ... maybe evan a gtx 220 or and at1 hd radeon 4650

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Baron A (author)ll.132008-04-05

ll.13, what graphics card do think you would need to run Unreal Tournament 3 on the PC. Like whats the lowest graphics card you could use to run that game on decent frame rates : 35-40fps.

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ll.13 (author)Baron A2008-04-05

Well from wikipedia:

System requirements
* 2.0 GHz single core CPU (2.4 GHz dual core CPU or faster recommended)
* 512 MB RAM (1.0 GB RAM or greater recommended)
* NVIDIA 6200 or ATI 9600 graphics card (NVIDIA 7800GTX or ATI X1300 or 'faster recommended)
*&c.

So an nVidia 7600GT should display it decently, (a 7800GTX will probably cost more than a 8400/8600) ;-)

btw are you in UK or America?

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Baron A (author)ll.132008-04-05

Thanks for the options below. Never heard of eclipse computers hope they are good. Oh ya U.K.

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ll.13 (author)Baron A2008-04-05

Yeah, they're pretty good, we've ordered form them before.

Also check out scan.co.uk they're really good! I'm pretty sure they have some decent priced 8 series cards ;-)

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=771583

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bnorth99 (author)ll.132008-04-08

sorry IL13, I can't resist disagreeing re Eclipse Computers if you don't mind.
they may be cheap but based on the internet they have terrible feedback on product reliability and customer service.
I don't think many other PC makers/component providers have feedback like this !

"I wonder if some big anti-Eclipse banner could be made a sticky?
Complete with links to all our horror stories about them..."
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=279147&page=2

"Delivery date was given however date arrived and no computer ....
The computer has been nothing but problems since purchase and
it turned out that I did not get what was ordered"
http://www.customercomplaintsuk.com/forum/index.php?topic=30.msg40

and
"I paid for a computer in Nov 07, arrived 3 weeks later, not 10-14 days.
Faulty on arrival - notified them immediately.
Collected computer on 3rd Jan, tried to charge for repairs, which I refused.
Still waiting for money back 25 Mar 08.
They've had my money for more than 4 months and for most of that they've had my computer as well!!
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/forums/index.cfm?action=showthread&threadid=315059&forumID=2

and
"The Worst Computer Company EVER conceived in British Computing History (Eclipse Computers (Coventry))"
http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/electronic-stores/eclipse-computers-coventry/1028131/

and
"www.eclipse-computers.com - crap customer service
(I worked there many moons ago) but dirt cheap."
http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t532529.html

and
"Eclipse-computers has the worst customer support...my friend got a custom PC from them and they glued on the heatsink
and there was glue all in the inside of the PC
It took some time to get that sorted.
I personally am still waiting for them to send me a replacement DVDRW drive...been waiting since July, they always tell me they'll send it out 'now', but it's never done."
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?p=6729337&highlight=eclipse+computers#post6729337

PC Advisor posters:
"Oh "first mistake" ( buying from Eclipse computers)"
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/forums/index.cfm?action=showthread&threadid=223292&forumid=2
and
"i used to work there in tech support
The company is a joke"
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/forums/index.cfm?action=showthread&threadid=216726&forumid=2

and
"Purchased at/on:- @ www.eclipsecomputers.com on Thursday, 7 Feb 2008 12:11
... suddenly after a few days the PC wouldn't even POST, I couldn't reach BIOS."
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=255003

actually scan.co.uk have some mixed feedback though not as bad
http://www.ciao.co.uk/Reviews/scan_co_uk__76985/Start/30
and
http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/online-shops/scan-co-uk/reviews/

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ll.13 (author)bnorth992008-04-08

Ok, scratch what I said earlier..... :-|

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Baron A (author)bnorth992008-04-08

LMAO. Good thing I haven't ordered from there yet.

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Baron A (author)ll.132008-04-08

Hi, ll.13 is this graphic card good??? ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT ? Look it up if your not sure. Im a complete novice when it comes to graphic cards.

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ll.13 (author)Baron A2008-04-08

Yup, it's good, it compares to the nVidia 8600. -another one to check out is the ATi X1950, it's not DirectX 10, but it has very good performance....

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Baron A (author)ll.132008-04-08

I've decided to look up some other deals other than the Cube tucana desktop package, and found a very good one from Dell! I have customised it slightly by adding the highest graphics card that dell would put in which is the ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT. Here are the specs: PROCESSOR: AMD® Live Technology - Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+ OPERATING SYSTEM: Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium - English HARDWARE SUPPORT : 1 Year Base Warranty - Collect & Return ] MONITOR: Dell™ 19" Silver Wide Flat Panel (SE198WFP) - MEMORY: 2048MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024] HARD DRIVEP: 320GB (7200rpm) SATA Hard Drive GRAPHICS CARD: 256MB ATI® Radeon™ HD 2600 XT graphics card OPTICAL DRIVE: DVD +/- RW Drive (read/write CD & DVD) KEYBOARD: Dell™ Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY) MOUSE: Dell 2 Button USB Scroll Optical Mouse - Black Accessories: SOUND SOFTWARE: Integrated 7.1 Channel High Definition Audio SPEAKERS: Dell™ A225 Speakers FLOPPY/MEDIA DRIVES: 19-in-1 Media Card Reader MICROSOFT SOFTWARE: Microsoft® Works 9.0 - English All that for the same price of 449.99. Except this time it comes with a better version of Vista and a much better graphics card. What do you think ? good? Oh yeah... will I be able to run COD 4: Modern Warfare with the specs i listed above?

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ll.13 (author)Baron A2008-04-08

Yes! it'll run, and it sounds like a good deal. ;-)

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ll.13 (author)Baron A2008-04-08

Half Life 2 (+ Orange Box) & Wolfenstein ET/TrueCombat:Elite for online multiplayer. ;-) How 'bout you?

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Baron A (author)ll.132008-04-08

Sorta, I played half life and a few, but now I want to start really getting into FPSs again. lol. thats why I needed a good graphics card. Just askin' waht are the specs of your computer or laptop thaat you play games on ?

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ll.13 (author)Baron A2008-04-08

Well, I currently use a laptop, that does HL2 + Ep1 ok:

It's 1.7Ghz Intel Pent. Dual-Core,
ATi x200 256mb. shared.
1Gb (760mb with gfx)RAM
60GbHDD
Win XP + ProTech Linux
-not exactly the latest, but as I don't play the latest, it's good. =)

-and a desktop(it needs a case) for The Orange Box:
AMD Sempron 1.8Ghz (single)
nVidia 7300GT
1Gb RAM
250Gb HDD
Win. XP

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Baron A (author)ll.132008-04-08

Nice spec. Do you play COD 4?

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ll.13 (author)Baron A2008-04-08
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Baron A (author)ll.132008-04-09

I don't play halo either.lol.

= } ( overrated)

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Noodle93 (author)2008-04-08

It's... Mediocre. Mainly because it's Vista. But thats just me.

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LinuxH4x0r (author)2008-04-04

Its ok, but honestly I would wait for a better deal

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Baron A (author)LinuxH4x0r2008-04-05

*Chuckles*....wait lol. Until 22nd of April, ( Birthday present).

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NachoMahma (author)2008-04-04

. Is that the Tucana ST3? You'll probably get more and better responses if you include some links to the product in question.
. I'd pay 700-900 $US for a system like that. Not sure how much that is in £.
. If you're going to be gaming, I'd spend the extra money for one of their graphics upgrades: nVidia GeForce 8600 GT 1024MB [+£69.00 inc VAT] or nVidia GeForce 8800 GT 1024MB [+£199.00 inc VAT]. I have no idea which would be best for you. Might be a good idea to upgrade the PSU if you get a graphics card - they can suck a lot of power - but I can't find the specs for the stock PSU.
. Personally, I'd go with XP Home or Pro, instead of Vista. According to the Cube247 site, XP Home is no cost and XP Pro is £50.00. Not sure I'd pay that much (~100 $US, IIRC) extra to get Pro, but I run Pro on all three of my computers.
. PS: Make sure you install firewall and malware apps (I use ZoneAlarm and AntiVir, both free) BEFORE accessing the Internet (or any other network). I usually download the latest version at a clean machine and burn a CD. The first website to visit, before you do anything else, is Windows Update. And I hope you have a high-speed connection - there's a LOT of updates since SP2. ;)

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Baron A (author)NachoMahma2008-04-04

Yes Zone Alarm is supposed to be good. And yeah it is the Tucana ST3.

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NachoMahma (author)NachoMahma2008-04-04

. Oops. The "inc VAT" links are supposed to be prices: £69 and £199. I forgot to change the brackets to parens when I C&Pd;.

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westfw (author)2008-04-04

Is that the graphics chipset that's causes all sorts of problems trying to work with Vista? Does it have slots for a good graphics card (pci-express or agp)? Some of the low-end systems seem to be intentionally crippled in that area... CPU speed? There's a big price difference between a 1.8GHz duo and a 3GHz duo (probably less of an actual user experience difference!) How does the price compare to a Dell? I'm not well acquainted with computer prices vs foreign currency...

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zachninme (author)westfw2008-04-04

Right now, the GDP is worth about 2x USD. So this is probably about $1000 And yeah, the CPU speed isn't listed: which is suspicious. And also as Mangetout said, the value seems to be oddly placed. There's nice peripherals & HDD, but the rest is questionable. Also, DDR2 667 isn't fast, its middle-of-the-road.

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Atomic Shrimp (author)2008-04-04

Doesn't look too bad of a deal, on the face of it. Don't be too distracted by all the peripherals when you're evaluating a package like this - the base unit and monitor are key items - the other stuff, not so much. Graphics... that's a very basic graphics card by today's gaming standards - you should be able to upgrade it to something else later, but it will depend on what vacant slots there are inside the machine - as well as what kind of space is available for [i]cooling[/i] the graphics card you upgrade it with, and whether the PSU installed will be sufficient for the new graphics card (and any additional cooling system you might need)...

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