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Fan knitter stomped on by BBC Answered

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A Doctor Who fan, known as Mazzmatazz, has been legally stomped on by the BBC for creating her own patterns for the Adipose and Ood creatures.

She never charged for the pattern, nor did she pretend it was official, but somebody sold a completed version on ebay, so the Beeb went OTT on her.

According to TechnoLlama their action has no genuine basis in law, but she caved in out of fear of corporate lawyers.

The BBC's action is a real shame, because it could signal problems for the thousands of fan artists (writers, musicians, artists) around the world who express themselves (for free) through the shared ground of Doctor Who (or any other BBC drama).

The knitter's website
TechnoLlama blog post
BBC slant

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CraftBear (author)2012-01-06

I don't suppose anyone may have heard rumours about where the pattern did or did not end up? And if anyone had done I wouldn't want them to message me or anything... =D

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Twinmum (author)CraftBear2012-01-14

mmm, funny you should ask that. I did a search just a moment ago and found this interesting link to the wayback machine! http://web.archive.org/web/20080411001448/http://www.mazzmatazz.co.uk/index.php?page=adipose

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CraftBear (author)Twinmum2012-01-16

OMG OMG OMG!!!!! <3 now to familiarise myself with knitting patterns and learn to knit in round! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

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Twinmum (author)CraftBear2012-01-16

When knitting in the round, using the magic loop method is a lot easier than using four needles. There is a video tute here that is extremly easy to follow.

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Goodhart (author)Twinmum2012-01-14

I'd been working on a Soft Kitty pattern and now am leery of that (Big Bang Theory reference).

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CraftBear (author)Goodhart2012-01-16
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=SMART= (author)2008-06-22

i diddnt se the walking fat episode :(

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wocket (author)2008-06-22

hopefully they don't start going after fan fiction!

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Lithium Rain (author)2008-05-21

Arrrgh, someone just told that joke to my family...only he messed it up and said "what's the problem with burying ten lawyers up to their necks in sand? Not enough sand!" (my father's a lawyer, and not a crooked one either!)

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Kiteman (author)Lithium Rain2008-05-21

Not knowing any lawyers personally, all I can go on is experiences like being charged 600GBP to spend 20 minutes filling in the blanks in house-buying paperwork while a lawyer watches me, or being asked for 150GBP to write up a basic will.

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Lithium Rain (author)Kiteman2008-05-21

Well, there are bad lawyers and good ones. Just as in any profession, right?

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fungus amungus (author)2008-05-14

Is the UK getting to be overcrowded with lawyers as well? This sounds like something that's come up because the lawyers on retainer had nothing to do and while they were surfing the web they happened across this and said, "Right, I guess I must defend my existence today" and wrote up some legal papers.

Something very similar happened in the States last year when a fan made a doll based on a character in a videogame and despite no plans to sell it the lawyers gleefully jumped down his throat. Finally the game developer found out, smacked the lawyers around a bit for being total tools, and apologized.

gears of war doll drama

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Kiteman (author)Lithium Rain2008-05-21

There's a joke:

Q: What have you got if seventeen lawyers are buried up to their necks in sand?

A: Not enough sand!

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Kiteman (author)fungus amungus2008-05-14

Yes, we have the adverts; have you had an accident in the last three years? Do you want 100% of the compensation due?

I tripped over a kerb on the way to work, and Vampire-R-Us sued the council for a hundred pounds, and I got it all!

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beado4ever (author)Kiteman2008-05-14

LOL I heard off a friend taking a first aid course that if someone was choking (you know, going blue, tongue hanging out, etc) that you had to get their permission to heimlich them for fear of being sued for assault!!!!! That could make an instuctable-how to sue pretty much anyone.....

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Goodhart (author)beado4ever2008-05-14

It isn't only assault they fear; the Heimlich maneuver has the potential to crack/break ribs, etc. when an untrained person does it. I have heard of one person that was choking, & had stopped breathing, and because the person helping opened the blouse a bit to apply heart massage to the proper area; was sued for "sexual assault". It is a sad thing, a disease that has spread all over the world (the USA no longer has a monopoly on this any more).

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Kiteman (author)beado4ever2008-05-14

You don't have to ask them, but you have to get them to realise you're going to do it; tell them loudly and pretend you saw a nod.

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8bit (author)2008-05-18

Does it change policy because she didn't know her rights? If she caved in to voodoo and scare tactics, maybe its a sign that everybody ought to play some of their research time towards learning law.

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