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What do you think I should do? I think I spooked a monster buck off my property. (A 12 point) I have been keeping my eye on him during the off season but now he has disappeared.

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deerslayerdad (author)2008-01-12

he probably didn't go anywhere, he didn't get to be a mature 12 pt. by being out in the open for very long.he's most likely in the thickest,densest part of your land. if you spook him again, back off and let the area settle down for a couple of days.soon enough you'll bet eating backstrap for dinner!!

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Hi Pat, glad to hear he's still around. You might want to start looking for antler sheds soon. good luck!!

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Pat Sowers (author)deerslayerdad2008-01-13

im goin out today. i have about 5 hours to look. iwish i had more time.

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Pat Sowers (author)deerslayerdad2008-01-12

I have seen him just the other day. I was glassin for a wile and out he popped! He moved to some older trails because he probably thinks its safer.

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bonecholampworks (author)2007-11-22

Here's a thought - won't help you now, but, in the future perhaps... Buy a bag of oats, or seed grain...toss it in lots around your property... This is a long term effect, but after a year or two, the deer will flock to your little piece of heaven to munch on these preferred grains. (Our old horse pasture is riddled with deer beds & patties - horses are long gone, but the patches of grain still remain!)

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maninamousesuit (author)2007-11-07

Ah sadly there is nothing to hunt really in Ireland..except fox hunting with hounds (the unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable). Rabbits are no fun because with a bow the dumb bunnies just sit there waiting for you to nock another arrow. So target hunting is all i do

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Goodhart (author)maninamousesuit2007-11-07

Really? Here, rabbits are hard to hit with a shotgun sometimes. They run both in a circle and zigzagged. If a person isn't careful they can knock off their partner (oh sorry Mr. Chaney LOL). Now squirrel hunting can be boring. You sit and wait, for hours, until they come out of their nests in the trees....then they flit here and there, sitting up daring you to take a pot shot at them. The carnival ones are harder to hit....

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sleeping_gecko (author)Goodhart2007-11-09

My first hunting trip was for squirrel. I didn't get any that day. A couple days later, out with my dad, we got one. I skinned it, we ate the meat (and another couple frozen ones from a friend) for supper. Following the instructable on drying the skin, I got a nice pelt. This year, if I go, I'm going for squirrel, rabbit, and crow. Squirrel and rabbit because they're tasty, and crow because I've heard it's tasty, and my town has one of the largest concentrations of crows in the nation.

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Goodhart (author)sleeping_gecko2007-11-09

Crow ? I know we have a saying here about "eating crow" which means eating something unpleasant, like one's own words. I am not really enthused about eating any form of carrion type bird (crows clean up garbage, and dead things off the roads)

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sleeping_gecko (author)Goodhart2007-11-09

I know, most people that I mention it to that have not eaten it think it sounds pretty nasty. But the way I see it, catfish and crabs are both bottomfeeders/scavengers as well, and we eat them. They even marinate in the goop that they eat for most or all of their lives There are a few websites that I've found with crow-specific recipes and cleaning instructions, along with hunting information. Crowbusters.com is one that is pretty well done. There are some articles on hunting/cleaning/eating crow that can be accessed for free, and also I think you can buy a subscription/membership. And yep, that saying is used around here, too. As for literally eating crow, they say it tastes similar to duck, but with less grease.

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Goodhart (author)sleeping_gecko2007-11-09

Tis ok, I tend to shy away from shrimp, crabs, lobster, and "mud" catfish when I can too. ;-) I wouldn't eat a vulture, so I will not eat green eggs and ham.....oh sorry, I mean crow LOL Funny how we think though (and I DO think about these things, I hadn't any trouble with snake and alligator, both being reptiles and "could possibly" pose at least as much of a threat "cleanlinesswise". Kind of like the joke about the fellow out to lunch and the waiter says: "today's specials are beef tongue sandwich and egg drop soup". Bob responds: Blech! Tongue, how can ANYONE eat something that came out of an animal's mouth ! Waiter: well sir you don't have to order the tongue, you can choose anything on the menu. To which Bob replies: Ok, I will have an Egg and olive sandwich.......

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sleeping_gecko (author)Goodhart2007-11-10

Hadn't heard that one before! Reminds me of one time, my parents' neighbors were cleaning out their freezer, and decided to throw out a beef tongue they'd had in there for a long time and never used. Somehow or other, our dog got a hold of it, so there was this little Cairn terrier (like Toto from "The Wizard of Oz," only tan) running around with this big ol' beef tongue!

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Goodhart (author)sleeping_gecko2007-11-10

The joke is that he wouldn't eat something from an animal's mouth, but would eat something from an animal's rear end. :-)

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Not with deer. Human population has caused a decline in deer's natural predators, causing the deer population to skyrocket. If hunters didn't take deer, the deer would overpopulate and starve, which is much worse than a bullet to the heart. The most recent National Geographic has an excellent article about that.

That said, it is mean when a poor shot hits a deer in the knee and leaves it, causing said deer to starve to death in agony.

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Goodhart (author)CameronSS2007-11-07

This is one reason I never took up bow hunting or musket hunting. Both have too much potential to wound and maim.

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Pat Sowers (author)Goodhart2007-11-08

Because of all my bow shooting/hunting I have a 6 inch long by 1 inch wide scar on the inside of my forearm because of the bow string hitting my arm.

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Goodhart (author)Pat Sowers2007-11-08

I am not saying no one should do it, I just never became proficient with a bow in the woods. On an open range I could do a few things.... ;-)

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CameronSS (author)Goodhart2007-11-07

Exactly. Even if I had any desire to go hunting, I wouldn't unless I was positive that I could kill instantly with the first shot. Watching a sentient being writhing in pain before I drag(literally) it home and eating it does not sound fun. Yes, I have had venison, and I loved it...venison chili was AMAZING. I just don't want to shoot the deer myself.

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Bran (author)TeacherOfTheWays2007-11-06

Only when it is a "sport". Sport hunting is mean - deer just to take their head. Real hunting is the way many people afford meat - and those who don't eat the meat, donate it to organizations like Hunters for the Hungry.

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Tool Using Animal (author)Bran2007-11-07

I wouldn't qualify all sport hunting as mean, we need more people whomping nutria and wild hog, and a host of other invasive species, I've sent, without compunction, a host of starlings and english sparrows into the nether world. Used to enjoy picking them off with my air rifle, sadly, they seem locally extinct ;-)

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Well, why don't we send you over to china with that air rifle? they're over populated...

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Bran (author)Tool Using Animal2007-11-07

Ah, but I don't consider it sport hunting if it narrows down the herd, if you will. We got coyotes and hogs (them big ol' hogs) that roam around, the coyotes kill the deer, so all the hunters go all Rambo on them. The hogs we eat, unless they have too many diseases.

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Yep, now if one hits and kills a deer in PA (not recommended as something to do on purpose....) one can have it donated also.

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royalestel (author)Goodhart2007-11-07

Oh that's weird. You don't mean hit with a car, do you? Donating roadkill? I gotta couple possums for them if that's the case . . . almost hit one last night.

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Goodhart (author)royalestel2007-11-07

Hmm, if they look like deer and are a few hundred pounds a piece....maybe :-) Actually, it was once mandatory to report a roadkilled deer, and then they disposed of it. Now, if someone is so unlucky as to total their car hitting a deer, they can keep it, as long as they report it. Or they can have it delivered to whomever can use it.

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royalestel (author)Goodhart2007-11-07

Wow. You DO mean roadkill. Well, actually, I've had possum before. Tasted like chicken, only a little greasier and a little grittier.

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Goodhart (author)royalestel2007-11-07

Hmm, I wonder why it was grittier ? Oh, did you say it was roadkill possum LOL? Didn't get all the stone out eh ? (teasing)

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its a lion (author)Goodhart2007-11-06

neither is hitting a turkey. if only i still had that picture that was in a paper i got in west virginia. turkey got stuck in the guys windshield.

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Goodhart (author)its a lion2007-11-06

Oh, that reminds me of a story. Coming back from Philadelphia art show one day, my wife and I observed a small hawk at the side of the road eating a rabbit. Our rapid approach startled the bird and he took off, with his prize in his talons. Unfortunately for him, he had gotten turned about and flew up over traffic. His payload was just a bit heavy for him, and it limited his ascent to the point where he might not have been able to clear my car. First, let me say what I thought I saw. He got windscreen high and bounced of the top of the car. When I glanced in the mirror, he was flying off, without the rabbit. I assumed he lost it when he hit the top of the car. Several miles down the road, a car in front of us had some children in the back, and they were drawing their forefingers across their throats. We thought they were nuts. But I stopped the car. Nothing was stuck to the top where the bird had hit. 40 minutes later, when we arrived home, I walked around front in there, in the grill (about 3-4 feet off the ground) was the rabbit. Quite cooked I might add, as I grabbed his hind leg and it came off. We had hit a flying rabbit LOL The hawk must have dropped it before he cleared our hood, and the grill became a different king of "grill". Too bad we didn't have barbecue sauce. We a lot of effort, since only little bits came out at a time, I removed the rest of the rabbit from our engine compartment. Too bad that hawk had not followed us, he could have had his rabbit back, fully cooked.

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royalestel (author)Goodhart2007-11-07

Wow. Truth is stranger than fiction. I'm putting that in my comedy, whenever I get around to making it, if you don't mind!

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its a lion (author)Goodhart2007-11-06

reminds me of the guy i saw with a chicken sticking out of the headlight on his motorcycle. i dont know how or why... it just was.

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its a lion (author)Goodhart2007-11-06

it looked quite a bit like that, except the turkey was still in the windshield.

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Goodhart (author)its a lion2007-11-07

Yeah, when you look at the video, they show part of that for a few seconds, but I guess they didn't want it to be so graphic for tv LOL

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Lftndbt (author)TeacherOfTheWays2007-11-05

Hunting to survive when you can't afford/obtain food I personally don't believe is mean....but... mounting the head on a plaque, on your wall seems fairly mean/insulting to it...

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canida (author)TeacherOfTheWays2007-11-07

So... if you hunt for meat what should you do with the inedible parts?

I'm a big fan of using all parts of the pig, including the squeak.

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royalestel (author)canida2007-11-07

OKay, what the heck is a pig's squeak?

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Bran (author)royalestel2007-11-07

Do you really want to know? ;-D

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Goodhart (author)Bran2007-11-07

squeal....I have heard a pig squeal....but normally it is my shoes that squeak LOL

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Goodhart (author)canida2007-11-07

As for deer, the antlers are very useful. Same as the bone. Knife handles and such come to mind.

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Bran (author)Lftndbt2007-11-06

A mounted head (or cape) helps remind you of a great hunt - I'm getting my 11-pointer mounted. But, I am also eating the meat.

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Goodhart (author)Lftndbt2007-11-05

I don't know if it is mean, once it is dead and all, but I have personal problems with having a dead animal in my house LOL. That is not a judgment against anyone that does it, I just don't want one. I would be more likely to make things from the bones and antlers (I have a hunting knife with handle made from an antler).

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Bran (author)2007-11-05

From a fellow hunter: Hell if I know. How'd you spook him? I'm guessing just use attractants (Tink69). I just got an 11-pointer Friday, he was pretty nice. Don't worry, there'll be another deer.

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