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Is Google custom search is here to stay? I liked the graphical search better. Google search has way to many ads, no pictures next to the search results, and no way to sort results. Also, I am seeing a problem with member searches where some members show up and some members don't. I can search Kcls (me) and it will come up, but if I search poppi, his one comment comes up, but not his member page. Is there going to be a way to set graphical search that as a default? Maybe make it a pro only feature?

Thanks!

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kcls (author)2010-04-25

I was just looking, and saw that it is only 100 USD in order to get no ads on the search pages! Who is willing to send the 100 dollars to instructables to get no ads?

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porcupinemamma (author)2010-04-16

if it ain't broke...don't fix it.

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kelseymh (author)porcupinemamma2010-04-16

Well, there are ways in which the old home-brew search was broken.  It could never reliably find individual users (one reason they took that out), the search results often missed things, and so on.  Many of us had suggested the use of Google search as a replacement (and used the "site:instructables.com" option on Google itself).

It's interesting to see the backlash, now.  I agree with the comments that having the images associated with each search result are important (especially on a site like I'bles), but that seems to be difficult to do with the Google API.  I am also frustrated by the lack of sorting or grouping of the Google results.

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LoneWolf (author)kelseymh2010-04-16

Man, I think I'm the only one who likes the new google search

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Kryptonite (author)LoneWolf2010-04-18

Maybe not, but it appears a bit one sided.

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LoneWolf (author)Kryptonite2010-04-19

Yeah - still, you get a lot more from the search (i.e. members, comments) then you do with the Graphical.

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porcupinemamma (author)LoneWolf2010-04-19

For many of us, the graphics sparked our interest and invited us to take a look.  Straight text takes all the anticipation and intrigue and plain fun out of Instructables, and sadly, I have started to look elsewhere to meet my needs.

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Awww thanks, I'll come visit you instead-lol.  I'm sure Australia is very nice this time of year ;0) ;0) {{{{Lyn}}}}

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Around these parts (Canberra) it's the best time of year in my opinion!

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kelseymh (author)porcupinemamma2010-04-19

The old search is still available, but you have to go through the Google API first :-(  Until and unless Eric decides to take our suggestion, you could add this link to your bookmarks:

https://www.instructables.com/tag/?q=.&sort=none

That's a URL that gets you directly to the old "graphical search" interface.  You'll have to delete the "." from the search box before putting in your own terms.  Good luck!

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porcupinemamma (author)kelseymh2010-04-20

Thanks kelseymh.  Unfortunately, I am very dull witted when it comes to technology

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kelseymh (author)2010-04-19

https://www.instructables.com/tag/?q=.&sort=none

Add that to your bookmarks/favorites/whatever.  It'll get you directly to the good old graphical search.

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lebowski (author)2010-04-13

Thanks for the feedback. Our tests show that Google results are better in quality than our in-house search. 

It's great to have this kind of information about what searches are or aren't working in Google.

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iTinkers (author)lebowski2010-04-14

I don't see how they are "better in quality".  I find that searching takes me longer than it did before because the results are crowded. 
In my opinion, as a user, this is huge decrease in quality.

The old system may not have been as good at matching key words but it was much easier to use.
I also find that I really miss the visual representation of the results  Often I find myself searching for a particular 'ible based on the image that was there.  I may not remember the name the creator used but I'll remember the image.

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kelseymh (author)lebowski2010-04-13

Hi, Cloude.  I'm not sure I agree with the "better in quality" language.  I certainly agree that the Google results are more complete in finding items which match the search input.

However, the fact is that the results are neither sorted nor sortable by the end user, they don't have any clear reflection of which part of the site they originate (and I don't mean recognizing pieces of URLs), and they cannot (easily) be restricted to a particular category or kind of result (like the old "forum topics only").  To me, the increased randomness is a reduction in quality, since it reduces the user's ability to find relevant information among the cruft.

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steveastrouk (author)kelseymh2010-04-13

I agree with you, I don't see quality in the search results, just quantity. 

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Schober (author)steveastrouk2010-04-14

I second that, I strongly dislike this new search system. I often find myself doing the same thing as iTinkers and using the image to find the 'ible I was looking for. 'Cause let's face it the names of most of the 'ibles on here have either a too complicated or too general name to remember for more than a couple minutes, and why else do we put pictures on our Instructables than to draw people in to what we've designed, created, imagined, etc.

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sijmenjan (author)2010-04-17

PLEASE! I want the homebrew search back!

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multisync (author)2010-04-16

Well, thats it for me... I will never ever find the instructables im looking for -__-
The visual representation was everything, without it you could just go back to the old filing cabinet.

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porcupinemamma (author)2010-04-16

I'm really frustrated. I like the old format way way better! The pictures gave a sense of  anticipation, and were tangable clues to the content. I'm not interested in reading column upon column of written blurbs.....Porcupinemamma is very sad ;0(

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NachoMahma (author)2010-04-13

> Is Google custom search is here to stay?
.  Who knows? This is the Internet and things change at a quick pace.
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.  Once you find a member's comment or iBle, you should be able to click on their username to get to their personal page. A rather roundabout way to get there, but it works.

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